>> kayleigh: we are getting the reaction from the white house after president biden breaks yet another promise to the american people, giving a full and unconditional pardon to his son, hunter, after repeatedly telling us he would never do it. biden also claimed hunter was a victim and "unfairly prosecuted." and now the white house is denying that the president lied. hello, everyone. this is "outnumbered." i'm kayleigh mcenany here with my cohost, harris faulkner. also joining us, cheryl casone, lisa boothe, and charles payne, host of "making money" on fox business. now this. hunter off the hook for everything. reporters just grilled white house press secretary karine jean-pierre in an off-camera gaggle on air force one about the president's decision to pardon his son. hunter was scheduled to be sentenced this month. it was december 12th, on federal gun and tax charges, and the

sweeping part in space and a possible prison sentence. a complete reversal by the president of united states. >> does the president have any intention of pardoning him. >> even asked that question multiple times. the answer stands which is no. the president has been clear would need for ask this que question. >> is there any possibility the president will end up pardoning his son? >> no. i just said no. >> it is still no. >> will you accept the jury's outcome, their verdict, no matter what it is? >> yes. >> have you ruled out a pardon for yo mack. >> yes. i said i would abide by the jury decision. i will do that and i will not pardon him. >> kayleigh: they were categorical, they were emphatic, and now karine jean-pierre is denying the statements were l lies. >> i wanted to ask you, can those statements now be seen as lies to the american people?

is there a credibility issue here given this announcement? >> one of the things the president always believes is to be truthful to the american people. that is something he always truly believes. he came to this decision this weekend, so let's be very clear about that. he says it himself. >> how soon could the next round of pardons come? >> i don't have a timeline for you. as you know, this usually happens toward the end, so the president is going through that process. i'm not going to get ahead of him. but you can expect more announcements to come. >> kayleigh: and she doubled down on biden's claim that hunter was singled out. >> they targeted him because his last name was biden. >> kayleigh: here's the problem, charles payne. he is a victim of injustice by the department of justice. okay, problem here: the facts. august 11th, 2023, let's pull it up.

this was the doj press release. guess he was president? name was joe biden. this happened. attorney general merrick garland announced today the appointment of u.s. attorney david weiss to serve as special counsel for the ongoing investigation and prosecution's referenced and described in the united states v hunter biden. so if i's doj with his handpicked attorney general selectively prosecuted biden so? >> charles: looking at the executive brand of clemency here, this is where i think the real deal is. he has the period that begins january 1st, 2014, through december first, 2024. it's not the case he's been found guilty on, it's the cases he was never brought to trial on. the other things that we know or feel in our hearts are a lot more egregious, a lot more offensive, and maybe even primed against the united states. this is a preventive measure. you look at the folks that are going to be in these jobs in two

months, they're going to go back and look at this on behalf of the american public. after all, the accusations of influence peddling is huge. this prevents hunter biden from, in my mind, true justice and it is a true travesty against everybody in this country, no matter what political party. >> kayleigh: it is a travesty. if you think about this, melania trump has her closet rated by merrick garland's doj, and biden's white house pardons his son. people see the disparity. but what bothers me most here -- and i want to pull up her picture -- are the innocent americans that have been prosecuted, and you could say tortured by the biden doj, one of whom is paulette harlow. 76 years old, convicted in a court of law. she has medical ailments. she stood in front of the clinic with others peacefully and she's prosecuted under a little used statute. she's currently at alexandria detention center.

but, harris faulkner, she gets no pardon. >> harris: are we shocked that the president son is getting special treatment? are we shocked that a guy who pulled off a stunt on capitol hill because he wanted to flout a subpoena, in the middle of the investigations, was allowed to do so? are we shocked that his dad would give him not just a little bit of a pardon, but a wiping away of ten years that maybe he might even be able to testify against his father now without the move of, it might jeopardize me criminally? the former ambassador to israel, david friedman, has made that point. are we shocked that regular everyday americans don't get the same special treatment that a biden does? no. we just thought it might stop because biden said it would. why did we believe him? that's on us. by the way, he is in angola today. i had rich edson from the fox business network and fox news channel earlier on my program reporting.

i said, why angola? it's an oil-rich nation with some of the greatest amount of food insecurity and the planet. why go there right now? and richard said they have a lot of ties to china now because china is moving into the south western african continent like they did in the northern part of that continent, blah, blah, blah. what are we learning? who did dealings with china? whose hands might be a little messy? where are you going? who are you talking to you? watch what he does. remember, he said "watch me." oh, we are watching. we've got our eyes on you, biden. >> kayleigh: this is karine jean-pierre moments ago telling us that something is going to happen from president biden. listen to this. >> it sounds like he thinks there could be further prosecution on hunter under a trump administration. >> he thought they would let up. that they would continue to go after his son. that's what he believed. i'm not going to get into hypotheticals, to the original

part of your question. >> kayleigh: so more pardons are coming, cheryl casone. maybe jim biden connect just asking. >> cheryl: the president's brother. that was one of the first questions asked this morning on the heels of this breaking news. i want to pick up on something charles said that is important. this goes back to 2014 when hunter biden joined the board of burisma. that's energy company that he didn't have the resume to serve upon. so they spend many question things to the lengthy amount of investigations james comer has had in his committee. quoted this morning saying it's the tip of the iceberg. so did joe biden pardon hunter? yes. is he maybe going to come up with another sweeping pardon in advance of james biden? he could. there is actually precedent. gerald ford did that for richard nixon. so it could be crimes not charge, crimes that have not been brought to a courtroom. that could be included in the pardon of his brother, absolutely. and james comer is definitely

gearing up for this right now. >> kayleigh: the ford pardon of nixon was different because this covers double the amount of time. theoretically you could make that case today. but look at this, lee said. the "politico" headline. "leave it to the media." the headline last night. "republicans towns on biden pardoning his son, hunter." that line couldn't be that biden did something he told us he wouldn't do. >> lisa: excuse me while i pounce right now. the one thing people are missing, it's not about hunter biden, it's about joe biden. this isn't an active father loves, it is an act of self-preservation by biden. he uses his son as a ponte woud reach his entire family off of his own office of the vice presidency, in various of power. then he uses him to cut off potential avenues to himself and his involvement with his son's business dealings, and he had lied to us previously. as cheryl pointed out, that is

the year when hunter biden joined the board of burisma. by the way, the same company that joe biden went and threatened ukraine, withholding united states money from ukraine, to get the prosecutor general fired investigating burisma holdings. we know because of the ways and means committee that hunter biden made over $8 million between the periods of 2014-2019 from countries like ukraine. we also know from whistle-blowers that the department of justice allowed the statute of limitations to run out on the burisma money for hunter biden, that the fbi didn't allow irs investigators to look at hunter biden's la laptop. it's up to me, this isn't about hunter biden, it's about joe biden. she's not getting a dad of the year mug for christmas. >> kayleigh: as we go to break, they said this again he made this decision, i guess over his turkey and gravy. nbc reported that he had been talking about this in june. kind of a friend of the biden white house. they said it was decided at the

time that he would publicly say he would not pardon his son even though doing so remained on the table. so you are all deceived. that is nbc, sp seven ally. how the money taxpayers footed for a hotel for migrants went to a foreign government. your money, next. ♪ ♪ if you're a veteran wife, homeowner, and the family bookkeeper, you're the first to know when high rate debt is stressing your budget. but your family's service has earned you a big advantage. the va home loan benefit. with the lower rate newday 100 va cash out loan, you can pay off high rate credit cards and car loans. that's real money you can use to take care of your family and home.

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dollars. so the citizens are paying all that money for people who are not citizens. you won't believe are some of the money is going. new york city effectively paid $220 million to pakistan in order to rent the roosevelt hotel as a full-time shelter for people who are not citizens. many of them came across our border illegally, but they are here. vivek ramaswamy is going after this with this quote. "a taxpayer-funded hotel for illegal immigrants is owned by the pakistani government, which means nyc taxpayers are effectively paying a foreign government to house illegals in our own country. this is nuts." now, let's just go on over to the sanctuary city of denver. according to one nonpartisan research report, the city has spent more than $356 million on its migrant response since december of 2022. that comes out to nearly $8,000

per migrant and 8% of the city's total budget. that word, "migrant," is not synonymous with "illegal immigrant." when you look at the percentages of people who came here either illegally or really do need to leave for crimes they are still committing, that is a big chunk. $256 million. wow. >> kayleigh: is a lot of money. there's a formula here, and let's put it very simply. you are an american citizen. you go to your job. you work on o'clock to 5:00. maybe he worked two jobs. maybe you work more than 40 hours a week. then he had over this lump sum of cash to the federal government if you're in a blue state like here in new york, you hand it over to the state government and the city government. then, how confounding is it to you that you learn your money went to a foreign country -- >> harris: pakistan. >> kayleigh: to house foreigners who are illegal immigrants who came in illegally. but wait, there's more. the cherry on top of all of this, and it's not a charity, it's a huge, huge problem -- laken riley's murder suspect received taxpayer-funded stay at roosevelt hotel.

so you funded jose ibarra, a murderer, to stay at a luxury hotel before he killed a 24-year-old in georgia who should still be with us today. that's how that worked. stealing and he and his brother were members of that venezuelan, tren de aragua. so if you want to hook up with your homies from south of the board who want to kill people, run cartel drugs, i guess you go to the hotel that pakistan owns, and have american taxpayers pay for your stay. >> charles: you know what else is crazy, too, a big chunk of federal money was handed out by the biden administration to a lot of states. in fact, that's one of the reasons earlier this year you started seeing states on the jobs reports doing better-than-expected. "the jobs reports are great." all that money was designed to be spent specifically for things like, to fatten up the jobs report, or the sort of programs. but think about that tweet that vivek retreated, that x post. "in conjunction with the

international monetary fund, $1.1 billion loan to pakistan." wait a minute, we are putting americans at risk to put money into the pockets of the international monetary fund? which, by the way, goes to these third world nations at rates the mafia would blush at. you talk about the establishment, the international cartel of establishment holding everyone back and manipulating everything? this is nuts that your taxpayer money is going to all the sort of things to deceive us and put us at harm at the same time. it's crazy. >> harris: i told you he was leaning in. [laughter] >> charles: international monetary fund? >> cheryl: i'm so glad you brought that up, charles. that blew me away when i saw the initial report this morning, that the imf is loaning money to pakistan. by the way, if the pakistani airlines that owned the roseville hotel and leased it back to the city new york, who get federal funding. the state and local t taxpayers- >> harris: that seems so

dirty. >> cheryl: is a complete misuse of funding and he goes in a big fat circle. that's why when eric adams was saying it was going to be $10 billion, asking biden for billions before he got indicted, the biden administration was scuffing. i don't know if that was politics or just the fact that these estimates, from what this was going to cost the city, wickedly out of control. really quick, this year, these tourists here for the holidays and new york city, hotel prices at new records. 7% higher than last year. so who's going to end up sending all of this? tourists, people coming to experience christmas in new york. >> they are soaking them so they have cash left over to give it to people who came here illegally and want to sleep there. >> lisa: it is nuts to us but not to the left. that is what is so crazy about this. we follow their line of thinking on all of this, look at after the trial of laken riley's killer. what did the media headline r read? laken riley's killer never stood a chance. not laken riley the innocent

person in this, but the illegal immigrant killer who came into our country have shouldn't be here in the first place, somehow he's the victim in this. are you look at the interview between abcs martha raddatz and j.d. vance when she said it's only a handful of apartment tren de aragua has taken over in aurora, colorado. in his response was, "martha, do you hear yourself? do you realize how crazy this sounds?" or the fact that under the biden administration we had hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens, convicted criminals facing charges, that they have allowed to step foot in america. so it should be nuts, but it's not to the left. and they have this twisted mentality where somehow they are putting illegal aliens ahead of american citizens. we go last according to them. >> harris: that number you were just talking about, all those who have come from other countries and they've broken into our country, so they broke our law, but they committed other crimes before -- just a few weeks ago that number was 425,000. today we had on "the faulkner focus" and its over 435,000. you mean you found 10,000 more

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♪ ♪ >> kayleigh: after their massive election loss, democrats are searching for ways to rebrand the party. strategist james carville says that won't be easy, because

democratic donors are still fuming. speak of the resistance is going have trouble raising money. these fund-raisers are burnt. there really [bleep] now. the damage that the 2024 campaign has done, the damage that this decade has done to democratic brand is almost unfathomable. >> kayleigh: only one beep for james carville. normally there more. tim ryan agrees his party needs big change. >> you start with a complete reset. we need to rebrand. you and i have been talking about this since 2016. our brand is toxic and so many places. and it's like, you're a democrat? that's the stuff we get in ohio. we need a complete reboot. we need a complete reboot with the dnc. we need a complete rebranding. >> kayleigh: the question is, will they do that postmortem,

harris? >> harris: i think it's fascinating that it's tim ryan doing that. remember when he ran against nancy pelosi and became readilyy apparent that they didn't want a new generation? they clamped down on him and mistreated him so much he might've thought he was bernie sanders. i think it is ironic that he is calling out what's happening over there on the left. if the right is smart, they're saying don't party too hard, do what you told the american people you're going to do, and make it harder for them to ever beat republicans again. >> kayleigh: you are in florida. lisa, as you know, john morgan is huge name. i grab saying don't like seeing "morgan and morgan" signs. he's a big democratic donor. that's why i was stunned when i interviewed him. he was complementary of barron trump and had harsh words for kamala and his party. listen. >> it turns out that barron trump, who looks like a runway model, was telling his

father you need to go on podcasts. you need to go on joe rogan. so barron trump is a lot smarter than everybody. she should go away and never come back. almost $2 billion. they are raising money this week to pay off the debt. if you can't run your campaign, you damn sure can't run the country. >> kayleigh: barron is a better strategist than everyone in his former party. >> lisa: i love that "barron is a runway model." where are we going here? they did have a better strategy. the podcast strategy allowed trump to bypass the news media. that's brilliant. i interviewed lindy lee for my podcast and she is a democrat national committee finance member, and she had talked about how donors are really angry to his point, as well. you have to think about the fact that this was a truncated campaign cycle for

kamala harris. 107 days. she spent more than jill biden did during the entirety of 2020, more than hillary clinton did in 2016, and it was a truncated race. i think she was spinning something like $100 million per week. so what would she have spent if this was an actual election cycle, as well? i will quickly end with this. you look at the reaction to seth moulton's comments that mention women's sports and you realize why democrats lost. there against an issue for the vast majority of americans agree with seth moulton, yet they attack him. so they totally out of touch with the american people. >> harris: was interesting about that is he voted for the transgender bill of rights, and he's lying on top of it. so that's another reason. >> kayleigh: jen psaki wants to double down on that issue. cheryl, i cyanotic about the fund-raising point. john morgan, who gave money, said he left the party because of defund the police and aoc and i'm a little c capitalist. now he's an independent. what happens when you lose your donors? >> cheryl: they are still

getting these frenetic emails now. one of the problems, they are sitting on the $20 million in debt, but at the same time et cetera laws that restrict how they repay the money. so they've got a big financial issue on the harris side that they're still trying to deal with. the other thing, if you look at the spend, $551 million, to your point, from the harris campaign, went to television and digital advertising. $551 million plus the money that went to al sharpton's action network, plus harpo productions, plus the jets, plus the other donations they made. it was an egregious amount of money just thrown out the window. her wet? for nothing. that's why they're so angry. i don't blame that all. >> kayleigh: don't forget the "call her daddy" set in the voter who said that's what drove her away from her, charles. >> charles: this term comes up a lot. i think that's where the mistake is. you can appease the donors or the american public but you can't appease both. what biden did under the

biden-harris presidency, they officially transformed to the democratic party from the party of main street to the party of wall street. that $1.9 trillion was always designed to go into the pockets of the 1%. everything they did was designed to help the wealthiest people in this country. they would have wiped out $1.4 trillion in college loans if they could've gotten away with it. >> harris: that's right. >> charles: here's a list of the companies that make the most money during the biden administration. lucky markin, 147 billy dollars per unitedhealth, $98 billion. billing, 83. northrop grumman, lockheed at the top of the list, pfizer vaccines. think about this, think about the actions this it administration tech and who benefited the most from this. the biggest mistake they can make is to continue to kowtow to these folks on this list instead of people in the middle of iowa. >> kayleigh: it's a fascinating list and i hope democrats don't listen to you. [laughter] a "new york times" op-ed is

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♪ ♪ >> kayleigh: a new op-ed in "the new york times" argues that president-elect trump's victory was fueled by resentful and lonely men. [laughter] sorry to all the women out there who voted for trump. the headline is this. "how our best updating culture leads to loneliness, anger, and donald trump." it reads in part, "now that women are pulling ahead, the

fairy tale has become increasingly unattainable. this development is causing both men and women to backslide to all gender stereotypes, creating a hostile division between them that provides fuel for the exploding manosphere. with so much turmoil in our collective lives, it's no wonder americans are extruding surging loneliness, decline birthrates, and as evidenced by donald trump popularly with young men, a cascade of resentment that threatens to reshape our democracy." is that my 76 million people voted for trump, lisa? >> lisa: they'll never acknowledge the truth. donald trump united us because of success. americans wanted a better way. the vast majority of americans that we were on the wrong track. but dudes just want to be dudes again. you look at donald trump, especially getting shot in the air, standing up and saying "fight, fight, fight," and even haters like mark zuckerberg were saying that's awesome. the left have been saying the way god made them is wrong. toxic masculinity, that having

testosterone is wrong, and at the same time they look at what the left field what a man should be -- putting hair harry stylesn the cover of "vogue," or doug emhoff is somehow the husband goes after knocking up a nanny during his previous marriage, or daniel penny are criminals, who stood up and tried to defend is that fellow citizens that day. i've been saying this is a "get off my lawn" elections and dudes just said, get off our lawns. we want to mow it and have a beer and hang out with her friends. i live in an apartment. i don't really have a lawn. the three turning to our one representative from the manosphere, charles payne, containing the laughter. toxic masculinity? these men were turned down. >> charles: it so attractive. i lost track of what the hell you are saying. one of the songs we bumped in with, "the new york times" is so lost. they are so lost and they are

grasping for desperation. i can tell you right now, post-election, i think it was a poll that said approval among young adults has gone through the roof. i was in vegas at a casino, a bunch of old folks that looked like they were going to type it i went to the cosmopolitan, young people are partying their ass off. there's a groundswell of energy. by the way, check birthrates in the next two have been three years. all that you that goes through ruth. he talked about a party that had beaten down our country, everything about our nation is wrong. everything the democrats ever do, we fight the wars of yesteryear. we are tearing down statues of confederate generals instead of teaching kids how to be prepared for the fourth industrial revolution. everything they've done over the last 50 years has been negative, has been anti-american and negative. yes, of course young people and other people, particularly men who work with their hands, welders, those kinds of folks, who are considered unmarriageable. whatever, i just made up a word. but the point is they were the

ones who have dissed young men for all this time. of course there is rebelling we want to feel great and you want to feel like there's a future for all of us, men included. >> lisa: you said the made up word with such confidence. >> it was "husband gold," as lisa would say. >> lisa: i did not write that op-ed for "the new york times," charles. let me be clear. [laughter] >> kayleigh: they said this at the very end and you had to wait for it. if we don't release men from the expectation, any plan to help them regain lost ground will also ensure women never catch up. the zero-sum paradigm has always been a feature of trumpism, all about keeping resources with the right kind of people. what does that mean, cheryl? >> cheryl: this entire op-ed baffles my mind. you are insulting the voters that went and voted for donald trump, for republicans in several districts leaning left her in the center and they went right. look at a map of the country.

>> charles: new york city. look at the map of new york city. >> cheryl: upper east side. >> charles: the shift is amazing. >> cheryl: the issues where the economy, number one, and number two u.s. immigration. "the new york times" can sit there and cry all they want in their op-ed section about what went wrong. this is completely misguided. >> charles: barack obama sat masculinity. >> kayleigh: this is the publication that apologized in 2016. they didn't learn many lessons. >> harris: was it a real apology? now we know. he lost a lot of people with the argument that somebody with xy chromosomes has a uterus. it really was baseline. when you go from a man having a uterus to where we are now -- >> charles: getting pregnant. >> harris: that's what the uterus would be for. [laughter] i love the fact that you maybe didn't know that. i'm just kidding. [laughter]

you don't have one! >> lisa: when a man loves a woman... >> harris: we are getting really basic. but we are so focused on things that people already thought they knew, and the things they didn't do, like making more babies, as you are talking about, as both you and kayleigh were pointing out. how can you make more when you can't feed the ones you have? the grocery prices were so high. the price of formula. then we have the shortages under this president, with pete buttigieg, our fake transportation secretary. i think we can call him that because that was a real crisis he didn't attend to. so we had baby formula, overpricing, all these things going on. and yeah, we're going to see some new comic numbers shift. men in the country say hello, we are over here, we want to work. >> kayleigh: we will go to break and explained biology. >> harris: so the uterus, charles... >> charles: the breadth and the bees. [laughs] >> kayleigh: i joke. why the new movie version of the hit musical "wicked" is being

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>> i am. >> harris: well, it seems like the "wicked" movie is a beer right now. in fact it's a huge moneymaker. moviegoers just can't get enough of it. but over in europe at the musical is getting hit with trigger warnings. the british board of film classification is advising audiences about potentially triggering moments of so-called discrimination. the board warns a green skinned woman is mocked, bullied, and humiliated because of her skin color, and talking animals are persecuted in a fantastical society. critics on social media had a field day with that. one called it "peak absurdity." another said, "this is how the brain washing your kids." others wrote fantasy is dangerous. what about shrek connect being green? no one cares. kermit! [laughter] >> lisa: they paved the way!

>> cheryl: we were just talking in the break, actually "moana" is the one that made all the money over the thanksgiving holiday because families wanted to go see "moana 2." just pointing that out. you've got recession and immigration problems, they're probably going into recession in england. they shouldn't be worrying about animals being persecuted that are talking in a movie. by the way, there's a great foxnews.com op-ed today called "how woke is broke?" because woke is broke. this is what they want to yell and scream about -- >> harris: jaguar is on the phone right now. their cousin bud light wants you to speak to them. charles, as a black man, does it bother you that a creature is a green woman? >> charles: no. >> harris: that a black woman is a green woman? >> charles: i'm older than you guys so i go back to "star trek" when captain kirk had a green girlfriend. the bottom line is this is just outrageous. there is still this -- is much as we talk about how the

american public has spoken -- and it's not just the american public. for the first time in history, every developed nation in the world, 50 countries saw a change in leadership. it's never happened before. it's been a wholesale rejection of the establishment of wokeism around the entire planet, including the u.k. and those places. guess what? there's still nestled into these positions where they think they can be these weird messengers and dictate to us. this isn't even dictating policy or anything. this is common sense versus noncommon sense. it's ridiculous. >> harris: the ism is foodism around the world. prices are high everywhere. >> lisa: i'm glad someone is finally standing up for green skinned people and talking animals everywhere. it's about time. we are running out of things to be outraged about, that they are creating these new fictional victim groups. that's how ridiculous people have gotten with all of this. i will also say i just want actors and actresses to push a movie, not an agenda. clearly when you watch the

interviews for "wicked" they are pushing an agenda. there's also too much crying in these interviews they're doing, as well. you want to have fun. when you watch a movie it should be a release. >> harris: they been crying? i've only seen her with, like, fallon, where she's singing. >> lisa: if kamala had won i would have cried. but we are happy now, it's good. but just have fun. people want to go and be entertained and not have this agenda driven. >> kayleigh: this british analysis of the movie is ridiculous. i saw "wicked" over the weekend and the green on the talking animals were meant to symbolize the determination is wrong. it's absolutely wrong to be cruel to people. it was a good message. i saw "wicked" and i saw "moana 2." my son started crying two hours into "wicked." i was happy he was crying because it's not my cup of tea, i'm not into the broadway musicals, but it was a good message. "moana 2," what a phenomenal movie. it's worth seeing. it's interesting and fun. despite not liking musicals, i

loved the "moana 2" music. >> harris: we have that in common. i want to go see it. is the crab in it? >> cheryl: i'm sure we have to run, but i went to get my toys for tots for the marines this weekend and i went to target, and all of the moana dolls -- i got the last ones. i don't know what's going on. moana is hot right now. >> harris: we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i'd like to take a moment to address my fellow veterans, because i know so many of you have served our country honorably. one of the benefits that we as a country give you as a veteran is the eligibility for a va loan, for up to 100 percent of your home■s value. if you need cash for your family call newdayusa. with automatic authority from the va we can say yes when banks say no. give us a call.

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♪ ♪ >> harris: last but not least, the internet is losing its mind over a controversial piece of art featuring a banana duct taped to a wall, which recently sold for more than $6 million. >> fair warning, $5,200,000. it's yours. congratulations. thank you very much indeed. >> harris: but then they charge you a million dollars for the auction fee cost of the total price is $6.2 million. just so you know. a banana taped to a wall. well, that's special, right? the piece was bought by crypto entrepreneur justin sun who then

proceeded to eat the banana during a live's conference in hong kong. charles, you've got money. [laughter] what's that like, charles? >> charles: oh, man. here's the thing. it comes with instructions. >> harris: eating the banana? >> charles: instructions on how to retape the next banana and a certificate of authenticity. the artist is upset because he initially sold through them for $150,000 each. then someone tells of a $6.2 million. >> harris: are you being serious? lead the man and you take another banana? >> charles: it comes with instructions. the banana rots but it is supposed to be conceptual art and represent craziness and lunacy. >> harris: so somebody will buy that art, cheryl? >> yes. >> cheryl: i can say, why did i not investing crypto in 2014? and not myself around every day about it. it's a lot of money for a banana

you have to keep replacing, and if you look at the artist commentary, he kind of did it as a bit of a joke. i'm not sure if the art world is really firing on all cylinders when it comes to this. >> harris: jokes on him if he could make that much money off of it. >> lisa: i don't even like bananas. i wouldn't spend a dollar, little millions. the real hero is artist who was like, i'm going to stick a banana on this and make all this money. kudos to you, my friend. >> what a menacing? i have two artists in my house, i t a 5-year-old named blake ana 2-year-old named nash. we'll do it tonight, guys. >> lisa: you too could be a millionaire. >> charles: it's a weird world. the world of art is so weird. >> you are taking tim walz's worried. >> harris: you got six seconds. >> lisa: had one watercolor painting that got a lot of praise but i think it's because it melted together.