31. >> congratulations. >> the secret is getting up really early and working really late. [laughter] >> lawrence: never being home. >> ainsley: not going home. >> brian: marrying the right woman. >> steve: smart answer. >> brian: it was in the prompter. >> steve: congratulations, dawn. >> ainsley: what did you buy her?

a know machine. >> brian: i can't buy you. i will pay you $100. >> steve: take the $100. brian $100. >> brian: i might have it. i never carry cash. >> ainsley: coffee more than anybody else. i will turn the heater off. >> brian: make sure it's off when i get back. here is the other 50. >> steve: it's off. >> ainsley: looks like his desk. >> brian: can we start the show? >> ainsley: not my read now. [laughter] >> steve: welcome to the second hour of "fox & friends" on brian kilmeade's anniversary. >> ainsley: actually take the money. >> lawrence: oh yeah i will take it. >> steve: it's new york. come on. speaking of new york. who would you want on the train with you in the defense's closing argument in the daniel penny trial. >> ainsley: can we answer? >> steve: as jury deliberations begin as soon as today. >> lawrence: charlamagne tha god

after president biden his son. >> i want democrats to stop acting like political high ground politically when they show us they are not. start acting like you are the pure party and republicans aren't. >> brian: that's a good part clcharlamagne. identify with the italian stallion. >> people have aspirations to do more. please give me the opportunity, even fail. put me in, coach, one time. let me run the race. >> ainsley: second hour of "fox & friends" starts right now. >> lawrence: buckle up. fox news alert. closing arguments continue this morning in the manslaughter trial against 26-year-old marine veteran daniel penny. >> brian: chanley painter, a lawyer who worked in private practice for at least six years and a former deputy prosecutor in arkansas is live outside the courthouse. chanley? >> i have been in a lot of courtrooms over the years and

this one was tense yesterday as both sides spent hours making their final summations. in this case will soon be in the hands of that jury that you mentioned. will they believe that 2 #-year-old daniel penny was a hero or was he a villain? inside that packed courthouse and courtroom yesterday, i was sitting in. both sides painted very different pictures of what happened may 21st, 2023 on that subway car. the defense went first yesterday outlining the case. >> they took the jurors directly to the subway. they played video and sound effects. played the eyewitness accounts describing how 30-year-old jordan neely suffering from schizophrenia and high on drugs as the evidence shows threatened passengers in those moments before penny stepped. in the defense saying this, quote: danny acted in others didn't. he put his life on the line. he did that for perfect strangers, who would you want on the next train ride with you the guy on the train with the ear buds minding his own business who you know will be there for you if something happens? or you just hope someone like

neely never enters, especially when you are all alone? but prosecutors counter, arguing the former marine in his training knew he was holding a deadly chokehold for far too long and did so long after an imminent threat of harm existed from neely who was simply trying to breathe on the floor of that subway, not fighting back. the prosecutors saying this, quote: we are here today because the defendant used way too much force for way too long, to way too reckless of a manner we as a society cannot tolerate the unjustifiable death of a fellow citizen. the prosecutors will actually finish up their closing arguments this morning. the prosecutor wanting to focus on the cause of death. final words that this jury will hear before they are instructed by the judge on the law in this case and then we will be in a verdict watch here as it begins to show outside this manhattan courthouse, guys. >> steve: chanley a couple of things, were there any prosecutors yesterday? we were talking about whether or not the cold weather would keep people from coming out because

really, that was -- would be the last chance before the jury. it sounds like the jury is going to get the case a little later on today to make an impact. hey, the people of new york are against this. >> right. you can't escape the fact that there are protests. i was sitting inside the courtroom. 13 floors up, guys, behind me and i can heart chants of guilty coming particularly through the windows as daniel penny arrived to court yesterday morning. and it was so much so at the beginning of this trial that the judge had to admonish the jury at one point to ignore what they heard when they enter and exit the courthouse if they see anything just ignore it. not consider it in any way in this case. the mentioning the protesters in their closing argument yesterday. talk about how that may or may not have influenced some of the witnesses in the case for the prosecution. because they had to also walk past those protesters every day. >> lawrence: i'm just curious, judge jeanine a district attorney 30 years and the judge

before that said when she was looking at the jury, she has found them the most difficult jury to read. what did you notice in the courtroom yesterday? >> great question, lawrence, i have had my eyes on dozens of juries over the years. and i have to say this jury was from the moment they walked in to the moment they left hours later. i can say that they are a diverse group of manhattanites. all ages from 20 years old -- in their 20's all the way to their 70s. there is a handful that take notes constantly. one man in the front row going to run out of notebook. scribbling so much as the arguments were presented. some looked attentive. as the day wore on they were more tired. one part where most of them took notes is when the defense and the prosecution were talking about the intricacies of the chokehold. what was proper. what was not proper in those moments.

and what danny penny may or may not have done on the video slide by slide. that is something they will be discussing once they go back to the deliberation room later today. >> ainsley: as a lawyer, who do you think is doing a better job? i thought that was pretty clever of him for him to ask his lawyers who would you rather have on the train the crazy guy or daniel pen? >> and jurors don't leave their common sense at the door when they go into a deliberation room, right, guys? they take that from with them. they know that most of these jurors have observed themselves outbursts on subway trains as they live here in new york city. some felt personally threatened. that's something they are going to take with them inside that room when they deliberate. as far as presentation, it was a long day, right? you could tell. so jurorsy tired. there were a few yawns. this is the final moment they have to speak before they may

have delayed on purpose so final before jury begins deciding. >> brian: ufc champion and you in a similar situation. you end up the person end up dying. you are expert. you are like a lethal weapon, you should know what you are doing in there even in those perilous unscripted situations. but he's not. he is a marine. but they look at him as somebody that should know the difference about how to put on the perfect submission hold, the perfect chokehold? do they expect an expert in danny penny or do they expect -- look at him as a citizen who thought he was doing the right thing the defense did a fantastic job. they call this not a chokehold but civilian restraint. yes, danny penny had training. he took the marshal arts. he took the slides up. he knew what he was doing. he wanted neely to go unconscious. he would have done so in 13

seconds. right? but, instead, it was prolonged hold where he didn't exercise that sort of restraint. so it was a civilian hold until police arrived, which took a long time, they said, but he was doing what he could to protect himself and others. now, the prosecutor wants to spin that, of course, to say he was doing it wrong. that he should have known. >> steve: right. >> better what he was doing. the fact that neely wasn't passing out as a proper chokehold should been okay. something is wrong here. he could be dying i need to let go. they say that whereas reckless. >> steve: things will be kicking off three hours from now. chanley, thank you very much for joining us outside the courtroom where it is snowing on this tuesday. >> brian: charlamagne tha god made news maybe for the first time outside his very successful show. i thought when he was interviewing joe biden. and he said, you know, he asked him a tough question. biden didn't like it. well, you know what? if you don't vote for me you ain't black. you saw him take -- excuse me joe biden when he was vice president. so, since that time.

he made it clear, too. that he wasn't going to vote for joe biden this time. and then kamala harris, who they have been friends with when she was a d.a. or an attorney general out in florida. >> ainsley: california. >> brian: when she went in he went all in, no doubt about it. he also expressed chagrin saw joe biden who he knows called donald trump hitler and a fascist that would ruin the country and end all elections shaking hands and exchanging pleasantries in the white house. now his surprise continues to grow. he is wondering how sincere were you when you said that. now is he wondering too, after the pardon, do i have to rethink entirely the entire party? >> steve: right. because joe biden was emphatic, he was not going to pardon hunter biden, his son. we all knew he was gonna. charlamagne knew he would great soundbite yesterday joe biden.

can't say ethical party anymore after joe did to all of us. watch. >> hunter was singled out because he broke the law. he was singled out because he had a illegal gun charges. i want democrats to stop acting like political high ground politically when they have shown us they are not. skipping the primary process when biden stepped down. biden pardoning his son. stop acting like you are all the pure party and republicans aren't it. also shows me elected officials can do whatever they want as long as they have the political will and courage to do it. >> brian: i don't know if he was convinced that he was going to pardon him. joe biden kept saying obviously over and over again he was not going to pardon him. >> the bottom line is that they ran an entire election based on norms if you got him back in office then democracy was a payroll and overturn department of justice. run your campaign on saving

democracy and protecting the department of justice. now have the sitting president not only pardon his son from criminal activity many people argue that he is linked to but then to double down and say that the department of justice is a political arm as well, his dental of justice? i mean, is he using donald trump's talking points after campaigning against donald trump's talking point. and i think that's what charlie main is pointing to. now, don't get me wrong, charlamagne is a progressive. team democrat election. once the election is over or before the election. then you will see him criticize the party and things they need to check themselves on what we heard from democrats the entire election. one of the reasons i think donald trump did so well is because they told us how much we should hate donald trump and what donald trump was saying was completely false. that the doj was not being -- was not being weaponized for political reasons.

and that how could you say that you're against women's bodies? no, women love women's bodies. men love women's bodies. but we also love babies. many of those babies are in these women's bodies. we were tired of being told you're wrong and that's what he -- i think what he means with the moral high ground. y'all are -- all-are garbage. y'all are deplorables. y'all shop oat walmart. you don't understand what it's like to live in new york. what's like to live in california. most people are proud of the fact that they don't love to live in new york or california. america got tired of hearing the democrats and oprah and all the people at the dnc telling us how much they hate donald trump. we heard donald trump name probably just as much as kamala at the dnc. >> talking about how democrats we have got the moral high ground we have got it, we have got it until joe screwed it all up. there is an op-ed in the "new york times" today, of all

places. here is the last line of it and it regards the 11th hour pardon of his son the "new york times" writes what a degrading finale for biden's feeble, forgettable, frequently foolish presidency. that's the "new york times." >> lawrence: here's the deal. they are still sticking with it. i was watching a clich "the view" yesterday. and alissa fare who maybe she wants to be republican again. >> was criticizing the democrats now and saying biden lied. whoopi looks at her be careful with that word lie. [laughter] what are we supposed to call it? >> steve: he changed his mind. >> lawrence: let's just be careful with this. >> brian: that is why i watch the faulkner focus. i'm going to say i have something profound to say and really important and i owe you. here it is. for the longest time said what is going to happen to the

republican party when donald trump is gone. all about donald trump. the republican party said to themselves at one point you are right. instead, the party has a bunch of people that want to continue what donald trump is doing. the real problem is the democrats. democrats what are you going to do when you whole party is based on fighting donald trump and you lose? and you lose on ideas and lose with demographics and lose on the battleground states and he gains in 49 of 50 states. even in urban areas be abromaitis everything that have you been saying un. democrats have harder time getting over trump than republicans, and that's why i believe other networks are trying to give trump a chance because they tried not giving a chance and only thing they lost was viewers. >> steve: the democratic brand is broken right now. they have got to right now the shiny thing is donald trump.

democrat are in a hole right now. joe biden made the hole a little deeper. >> brian: i thought my comments were so profound we might even go to break. >> lawrence: ha! >> brian: might be silenced. >> lawrence: go to ainsley. >> steve: hold on a second he we will say they were profound for another $100. >> brian: what about 50? >> lawrence: we are going to be filthy rich by the end of the show. >> brian: i never have cash either. >> steve: that's a 50. >> lawrence: i'll take that. >> steve: that was profound what you said earlier. >> ainsley: you all do your bidding behind the scenes. i'm going to read some headlines. >> steve: not bidding, bribing. >> ainsley: or bribing. we're not going to do headlines now. >> steve: we're going to talk about sean hannity has a new show on fox nation. >> ainsley: yeah. sean moved down to palm beach. is he in florida now sylvester

stallone down there, too. he and jennifer have become friends with sean lovely couple. sean has admired him so much. like you like the rocky right under the bible for sean hannity. he was so excited to interview him. sean has this new show on fox nation called sean. and he asked him to sit down with him it was awesome. sean showed us a clip on his show at the end of his show last night. look at his logo. did you like his set line. >> steve: got some knee on. >> lawrence: favorite part makes him more casual. gets to have these almost would be off the record conversation where people gets him to open up. >> steve: long form. >> lawrence: talked with rocky as ainsley said yesterday. let's watch it. >> there is a relatability. what i felt i was going through and trying to be what is my fate? what is my destiny. [rocky music] >> capability and inability of getting that opportunity, it's a struggle. and people -- so many people

have aspirations to do more. and they don't get that opportunity, so they live in this quiet frustration their whole life. please give me the opportunity, even fail. i just -- put me in, coach, one time. let me run the race. if i'm last, at least i know i didn't have it. but, to never be able to try to do your best, to like get a shot, in other words, to simplify it. and it's a very simple story that people, even incident electric actuals, people that are, perhaps, in white collar jobs. they can look at that and somehow glean something out of it. also, the need of hope. >> steve: that looks great. you know, sylvester stallone and rocky. we saw some of those clips where he was running through the streets of philadelphia. that first rocky movie inspired

one -- and brian and i go way back. inspired one of the best moments ever in the history of "fox & friends." brian, do you remember what it was? >> brian: john roberts. >> steve: john roberts was there at the bottom of the stairs in philadelphia at the art museum. he was down there and he was live on our show and he mentioned the rocky statue. and we said run to it. and he did. and it took him about three minutes. and we blew a break and we watched john roberts run to the top just like rocky and he was so out of breath. it was awesome. >> ainsley: that wasn't too long ago. i was working then. i know you haven't talked, brian, give me one second. that's when dnc was in philly when he was covering it. >> brian: i don't know what it was but john roberts is still trying to get his breath. >> steve: it was great. >> ainsley: know profound moment i know you love him, too. >> brian: i feel like sylvester stallone i'm tired of being a

superstar untouchable. he wants to be relatable. icon never did interviews. clint eastwood never did interviews. all of a sudden the last 10 years getting to know him and all his characters. and now he has got the reality show on top of that. and he feels very comfortable with sean and that came across. >> ainsley: i told sean last night after his show. i love that you included jennifer. because, women love him, too. i love his movies and sean is -- we watched all these most and i loved them and i admire what sly is trying to teach us. there is one scene in one of the movies where this monologue where he talks to his son about when you fall down, you get back up. it's a great theme for all of to you play for your children. but, jennifer talked about how they met, they have been together for almost, i think 40 years, i think she said # 8 years, 36 years. they have three great children, if you watch their reality show, it's so sweet, it's not scandalous, the girls are amazing, also actors. they have a wonderful family.

>> lawrence: sean gets them to open up. that's on fox nation. you should check it out. it's available right now. more "fox & friends" ahead. >> steve: here is your 50 bucks. ♪ christmas carols ♪ by candlelight ♪ please come home for christmas ♪ please come home for christmas ♪ if not for christmas ♪ by new year's night ♪ ♪

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>> ainsley: president biden is in angola today for his first susub-shahran visit to africa as he attempts to improve relations and curb chinese influence in that region. greg palkot is live there. hey, greg. >> hey, ainsley, it's a sunny, it's hot, and there is a lot of talk here about a lot of different policy directions. this is president biden's only full day of a visit to angola. it's president biden's first trip to africa. and it is happening in the waning hours of his presidency. as far as we know, no mention has been made yet on this trip about the elephant in the room,

shall i say. the pardon of his son hunter. but, we'll keep plugging away on that one. talks are ongoing about a lot of things that they are here for. and that is a meeting with president lorenzo. he is the president of angola. especially the labito infrastructure project. aimed at developing the economy of angola as well as neighboring countries, we asked admirable kirby a short time ago if this was all about catching up and keeping up with china, which has been very aggressive across the continent. he would not confirm that but many analysts are saying it is really all about that. there has also been discussion about the hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid that has been flowing into angola. and some talk of a military base

here as well. that could not be confirmed as well. >> finally, the question how will the incoming president donald trump handle all this the words we are getting one trump insider is that some of these projects actually could fly just looking at the more transactional basis. >> brian: thank you so much. appreciate it stay safe. the white house president biden's inner circle defending hills decision to pardon his son hunter. >> he believes in the justice system but he also believes that the war politics infected process and led to a miscarriage of justice hunter w singled out because his last anytime was biden. because he was the president's son. he truly believes enough is enough. >> pardon hunter?

>> brian: trump senior adviser jason miller joins us now to talk about the pardon that shocked everybody, including many democrats. first time i saw you congratulations did you a fantastic job. the results show. jason, your thoughts about this and how it effects how donald trump approach his job? >> take a look at the four years we had president trump versus the four years of joe biden. the entire time they weapons of mass destruction the justice system against their opponents. as president trump would always say, from the democrats misinformation and disinformation, every single thing that they accuse president trump of they were doing themselves. and now as we see joe biden giving hunter a pardon, and this just goes to show what the democrats were up to this entire time. joe biden is a threat to democracy. >> brian: joe biden basically said in his statement i believe in the justice system. but clearly politics played a role in my son's legal problems. >> any time you have a statement like that where the word but

occurs then anything before it is thrown out. the whole notion that he is respecting the justice system. take a look at what they did to president trump from the illegal and unconstitutional raid on mar-a-lago, jurisdictions over politicized attacks. that is why president trump won by such a big margin. why he has this mandate to go in and change washington. and look what he has done already. look at these fantastic cabinet picks. look at poland, look at the move is he move to bring in kash patel to leaded fbi. did you go all around the horn with these cabinet picks. they are so impressive and especially when you look at 2024 versus 2016, president trump has his cabinet in place. they all believe in the agenda. he is going to bring real change to washington. >> brian: we saw a lot of people on capitol hill little by little i know poland was up there yesterday and pete hegseth was up there yesterday. i think the volume of some of the personal attacks on some of your -- some of the nominees are stunning, including our buddy

pete hegseth who wrote a book about the pentagon. 20 years in the military. decorated. infantry after ivy league education. have you seen what he was able to accomplish for veterans. does the volume of the attacks surprise you and make the president -- does it make the president waiver or wonder? >> no. there is a research why president trump picked pete hegseth to lead the dod. two time bronze star recipient. somebody who served in combat in iraq and afghanistan. as you said ivy league pedigree. you want someone there leading the dod who has served in combat who knows what it's like to be shot at. because a big part of the reason why president trump won, he said he is going to stop these endless wars. you look also and see the tulsi gabbard pick. the mentality that president trump is bringing in saying the u.s. should not be the world police, we are going to bring peace, we are going to bring stability. but it's -- keep in mind, under his first four years. the only time in the history we have never had a war. that's what is he going to bring back. pete hegseth will be an

important part of that. >> brian: kash patel the nominee for the fbi director but there is one now. what happens next? >> first of all, we got to go and president trump after he is formally sworn oin on january 20th. make the moves to go and put kash in and that will be for the administration to go and handle. kash is another one who has a very impressive bio. deputy director. d ni. chief of staff at the department of defense. he has been a prosecutor. he has been someone who has been a public defender. another one, too. especially with president trump's comments last night. sending a pretty clear signal to the terrorists better let the hostages go. don't forget under president trump and the first term kash was the lead hostage negotiator. and so this is the one who is very, very qualified to step in and do this. i hope it happens as soon as possible. after january 20th. >> brian: does he want christopher wray to resign or he is going to be fired? >> i will leave that for the president and for the administration and susie and the rest of the team to go and get that done. i think this whole new mentality of getting politics, getting the

weaponization out of our justice system, with poland is a tough, fearless prosecutor, she is not going to allow politics to play any sort of role in this and then kash patel at the fbi. there is a new era that's coming back to washington. really going to drain the swamp and get politics out. brian, this is part of the reason why the president got such a broad bales of support from all these different coalitions. the production party is now the working class party. it's not the democrats because he said he is going to make government responsive to people and not the other way around. >> brian: great to see you again. how hard you have been working really the last 8 years. >> thank you, sir. >> brian: search form a missing haw hawaiian woman. police calling her a voluntary missing person after she iss into mexico.

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♪ >> ainsley: we are back with a crazy twist in a very bizarre story. the lapd says that the woman from hawaii who disappeared after landing at the l.a. international airport last month is now considered a voluntary missing person. brooke singman is here with all the details. >> hey, ainsley, that's right. the los angeles police department providing update on this yawning going search for hanna who was last seen novembe. international airport. >> we reviewed video surveillance from u.s. customs and border protection which clearly shows her crossing the united states border on foot into mexico. she was alone with her luggage and appeared unharmed. >> her sighting in mexico comes after her father was found dead in an apparent suicide after he traveled to l.a. to try to find her. family saying in a statement they were unaware of some of the

developments in the department's investigation until they were sent videos of the police chief's speech and initially thought she was kidnapped. officials say she was stopping in l.a. on her way to new york city but there is no record of her ever getting on her connecting flight. lapd says there is no evidence of human trafficking or foul play. noting that she seemed to want a less complicated life. her sister has disputed claims from officials who says she intentionally missed that flight. ainsley? >> ainsley: all right. very interesting. thank you so much, brooke. this is a fox news alert. in a few hours, closing arguments will resume in the manslaughter trial against daniel penny. the defense painting the marine veteran as a selfless hero saying, quote: he put his life on the line. did he that for perfect strangers. the prosecution arguing as a veteran, he knew the chokehold was deadly. joining us now, our team of former prosecutors, we have elliot felig who worked in the manhattan d.a.'s office and chanley painter who is live outside of the courthouse.

>> good morning to both of you. >> chanley you were in the courtroom yesterday. you saw the faces of the jurors. which way are they leaning in your opinion? >> i learned long ago, many years ago not to try to predict which way a jury is leaning, and i don't envy them being in that deliberation room later today because they have a lot to consider. this is not a clear cut case. there is a lot of evidence and technicalities for them to they will hear from the judge. i can tell you that they were attentive. many of them took a plethora of notes on their notepads. they would lean in. lean up in their seats from the jury box to look at the big screens of the evidence as both the defense and the prosecution would point out southern stills from the video and evidence and testimony. they are taking this very seriously is what can i tell you, ainsley? >> ainsley: okay. elliot. the prosecution is trying to say he knew holding that long it was going to kill the young man on the subway. how do you prove that?

how do you get inside the brain of daniel penny and say he knew holding it for five extra seconds was going to kill him versus letting it go five or 10 seconds ago? >> you are correct. the prosecution summation can basically be summed up in one sentence which is that he went too far. they acknowledge that there was some justification for initially restraining mr. neely but they will say that he choked -- they did say he choked him too long choked him too hard. they say in so doing he created an unjustifiable risk of death and that he was aware of the risk and that he deliberately disregarded the risk. that's the standard in new york. those are the elements of manslaughter in the second degree. so not surprisingly, the prosecutor tailors her message to meet the elements of that crime. >> ainsley: yeah. i thought, chanley, the defense was very smart to say which of these two guys would you want on the train with you, that entire jury, they are all like us. ridden the train before and fear for your life. what if daniel penny weren't on that train?

what would have happened then? >> right. you could tell that moment inside the courtroom it, resonated with those jurors as they listened to the defense say this case comes down to two things. this is what the defense argues and what the prosecution will pick back up on justification in this case and the cause of death. most of the notes of the jurors whether or not though chokehold went too far. the intricacies of the chokehold, going to the justification of those actions, also the cause of death. we have battling experts here, ainsley who say the medical examiner says chokehold is the cause and we have a defense expert saying no, it actually was a combination of other factors so, a lot for this jury to consider. >> elliott, what happens next? they wrap it up today the jury goes they make their decision. how long do you think it will take? >> that's the thing, getting 12 new yorkers to agree on anything is challenging and this is a controversial case. theoretically they could come back in a verdict 45 minutes and take a week. what goes on behind the scenes in that deliberation room. we don't know.

all it takes is one person to have doubt. >> okay. elliot, chanley, thank you all so much. >> thank you. >> you are welcome. we have more "fox & friends" coming up. ♪

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going to help the salvation army? you could help anybody and they could take your help. it's such a part of our growing up for erin and i. every grocery store you go in every hear the bells charity -- the salvation army works with 27,000 people -- 27 million people a year he. starts at such a small point. >> a quarter or we can give a lot more. >> money in the bucket outside the grocery store. and now here you where this candle and this helps the salvation army. >> this raises awareness. think of the salvation army throughout the holiday. >> ring our bells. see if we can bring in, see if this brings in the salvation army commissioner. he usually hey, commissioner

nice to see you, they were just talking about how -- what a part of america's christmas memory this red kettle is and, you know, this is how you really fund your program throughout the year. >> it's 134-year-old tradition, steve. it's been something that is iconic in american culture and it really makes the salvation army services all year possible. >> steve: it does indeed this year fewer days between thanksgiving and christmas. >> five fewer shopping days that means a potential hit of about $13 million on all of our kettles nationwide. so we're really encouraging people to help us meet the needs of their neighbors by getting involved quickly this year. >> steve: here's the thing. you don't actually have to go to the grocery store now. can you be sitting on your couch right now or in your bed drinking your coffee and you can

help. >> that's right. at salvation army usa.org. that's the place where can you get all of the information about what the army is doing locally and how you can give. >> steve: because it is the season of giving, and this is the time when we think about our families and others who are less fortunate here in new york it's a make time of the year. particularly today with the snow. >> this is giving tuesday. which is the big kick-off for the giving season. and it's great. >> >> this day is actually the second biggest day for the salvation army. so we're really encouraging everyone to go to that website or to find a kettle. because this is a critical day for us. >> steve: thing about the kettles in new york city and you know commissioner gainers actually working the bell? >> absolutely. i would say you would be one of the greatest dancers at the kettle we could possibly imagine, steve. >> steve: there is radio city but i am no -- right across the

street radio city home of the christmas spectacular. i'm no rock death scientist. >> keep in mind. >> working the kettle later. >> steve: where are you going to be? >> probably do some low kicks. >> steve: very nice. thank you very much. good luck for the new season over on hgtv. always a pleasure. merry christmas. >> merry christmas. >> steve: commissioner, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> steve: once again the website is? >> salvation army usa.org. >> steve: can't beat that. [bell ringing] >> steve: well, we're going to step aside. more "fox & friends" from the magical, snowy new york city right after this. ♪

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