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[ ♪♪ ] >> jesse: hello, everybody, i'm jesse watters, with the panel. it's 5:00 o'clock ine. new york city, and this is "the five." [ ♪♪ ] >> jesse: fox news alert, a jury in manhattan dismissed for the day in the manslaughter trial of former marinfe penny. in the subway choke hold death of jordan neely.f in the meantime, joe biden is ducking and dodging every question on the pardon of the century. >> mr. president, why did young changee your mind. [ ♪♪ ] [ crowd noise ] >> president joe biden: welcome to america. >> jesse: right now, the lame duck is hiding out in africa,ed hounded by reporters on his final act of corruption, asking why he granted his son a

decades' long get out of jail free card. claim that no one is above the law. >> a convicted felon about tofe walk into the whitloe house, soo anyone thanet wants to clutchth theieir pearls now because he decided to pardon his son, take a look in the mirror. >> why are we saying he's lying when the context has changed? >> joe biden has done it all. so good for joe biden, good ford hunteron, i say. >> given the way that trump has talked abouter, what he plans o do, it's i defensible.defe >> i wish he framed it differently. >> jesse: some not so merciful,a and condemning republicans. >> i'm goingng t to look right , over the national airwaves and look the president of the united states in the face and say you're full of it. >> we had sworn testimony, joe biden, you all knew what was going on, selling the brand.

>> trump is already trying to abuse this system of justice and use the justice department foro his own political end, and iwn p fear this will give him another excuse. >> jesse: he turns around and pardon his son. lie at the front, ending and in between. but wa bs the hunter pardon done on the doctor's orders.xp first ladyos getting a leading role in pardon-gate. >> told that first lady jill biden was supportive of the president doing something like this. the president wasn't sure. >> jesse: does it sound like th biden house leaked that jill made me do it. >> she encouraged him to run the again, which led to the switch roo, which led to the historic and catastrophic loss of the

democrats. it's possible. but there's reporting that hunter himself was lobbying very hard to his dad, and that there was a detail in the new yorkhe times piece this morning n, andi don't doubt that it's true that it was a worry the biendz have, thand -- bidens have and if he to face the consequences for his actions or illegalities that exposed, that he would fall off the wagon, and, you know, there's families all across america that consequences stink and they suck for my son and daughter and it's terrible, but they don't have the power of the pardon. for the democrats who are claim the moral high ground, it'se pretty rich. and the other thing i would say is when you are the white house press secretary, you have choices on what to say, some power, and you can protect your dignity. but the thing thatyou i thought even more about later in the day is that joe biden is doing

karine jean-pierre no favours. if you're going to make aar decision like e this, moreis t sweeping of a pardon than given to richard nixon, and then you fly to africa, and then refuse s from the press saved by the trumpet, and then you send your white house press secretary tosa fend for herself when you told her to say that you were never going to do a pardon, and now she looks like a liar, and she double downs saying that it only came up this past weekend, come on.me and they're making it so much worse fo r her, for jill biden, for joe biden, and hunter. >> he made a fool out of the entire media, charlie. how has the media grappled with this flip-flop. >> it's as much fun as watching

the day after the election, where the media has to straighten out what they've gotten wrong for the past year or more. and listening to democrats trying to-splain their -- explain their way ouext of this has been probably the funniest.u and they would be surprised by this, obviously he was going to do this all along and lying about its al, and the fact that they're surprised means that they kind of were believing a their own spin, which is alwaysb very dangerous, especially if you're part of the press. the consequences thing is kind of amazing to me.is the idea that yo ku had to pardn him because he might fall of the wagon. the whole point of-- consequences -- the reason -- the point of consequences is that is how you get straight. that's why you quit drinking ors doing cocain we off of hooker's bottoms is because of the consequences. the consequences are bad for that. so the idea that you're usingus

the consequences as an excuse,e to givide him this extraordinary blanket pardon is extraordinary to me.do what's worse, whether joe biden -- jill biden made the whi decision, i don't know which is worse. either way, it under scores the idea that joe biden is not president right now.is >> jesse: and dr. jill maybe is president, or donald trump could be president the way he's working things down in mar-a-lago, as a democratic, anh as ainn american. a how do you d see this presidentl pardon playing out? u called me an i american, jesse.y a politician and lying is synonymous. joe biden clearly flip-flopped. flip-flopped is another synonym for lying.th >> no,, it's noter a synonym. lying inquires an intent to

deceive. a change of mind ... [ speaking simultaneously ] o >> i think the idea that we're going to sit here and act like s politicians that don't lie. >> did barack obama lie? >> yeah. >> i've never defended hunter biden. i don' t own a hunter biden t-shirt, and i won't defend himb buidt the constitution gives brd pardoning power. donald trump pardoned a tax evader, someone with weaponsth charges, but hunter biden specifically here, what we've seen in the last four years, republicans have accused hunter biden for doing everything other than killing jimmy head hoffo k and i don't know if anybody knows any crack head, but the idea that they could engage in a business dealing seems to be fam from the case, and i don't think

crack heads are capable of that. >> jesse: he didn't set up the 25 shell companies? idea thecuthe republicanses accused him of all of that -- that's what he was charged d with. >> charged witthe h tax evasionx with the monies in the shell companies. >> and i'm not denying that. my point here is this. i'm saying that the pardoningam power is browed. we can sit here and say that the president should or shouldn'ton have done it, but that they could do it. >> jesse: we're not arguingrg whether he had the power richard. >> do we like any presidential pardons? >> jesse: i can think of af a couple. judge jeanine,coup richard is sg a lot of things that i'm not sure are completely accurate, would you like to jump? >> i want to start here, donald trump has pardoned tax evaders, that'sta what you just said. >> and weapons -- >> bottom like is, there are pardons and there are pardons.

pardons thate occur after someone is servedte jailr time, has paid his debt o society, is remorseful. and then pardons for a dirt bag who has grabbed a garbage bagar and collected money from around the world, the ukraineens, russians, and chinese, $1.5 million after his father sent him over to china. this is a different scenario. the corruption in the biden family is so deep, it is so real that joe biden knows that he can't just pardon him for the gun charge that he was foundhi guilty of, or the tax charges, so i don't know about selective prosecution, but he has to go back to january of 2014. now, why is that, richard? that is because there was so much corruption in

the whole damn family that they have to go back to january. if youey recall, when donald trp was president, he makes a simple phone call, and said, you know, i'm hearing this stuff aboutou barisma and money withheld unless a prosecutor is removed, and joe admits to it, and as soon as donald trump makes ats t call about that, they impeach him.he why? because he got too close to the corruption that was going on in the biden crime family. that's why the pardon has to go back, and i guarantee you, his brother is going to get it,u sister going to gehit it, everybody in the biden crime. family is going to get it. and i don't even want to hear an argument that this guy isn't alr liar. he is from the get-go. joe biden has done nothing butif enrich his family. and i don't want to hear anybodn call donald trumyop a liar agai. fair, there was a

trump-appointed u.s. attorney that investigated the bidenhu family and the only person theyh chargd was hunter,. [ speaking simultaneously ] >> because they allowed the limitations -- [ speaking simultaneously ]>> >> that didn't i happen!y >> don't play gamedis with me. ]>>peaking simultaneously >> you do not have the department of justice and the power to indict -- [ speaking simultaneously ] >> he could have also subpoenaed joe biden's brother and sister. they didn't do any of that.n' >>s richard, you don't know why you'reou talking about. stop talking. [ speaking simultaneously ]bp >> there wasoe subpoenas issued, and they didn't show up. >> jesse: glad we had the last word there. donald trump just gave justin trudeau a diplomatic swirly.[s what does that ... au a[ ♪♪ ]

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[ ♪♪ ] >> donald trump isn't even president yet, and already smacking world leaders into place. canadian prime minister justin trudeau immediately flew down to mar-a-lago to have dinner with the president-elect, just dayshh after trump threatened to slap a 25% tariff on canada over drugs and illegal immigration. and absolutely love how trump showed trudeau who is boss.

>> jesse: we are told that when trudeau told president-electfrom trump that new tariffs would kill the canadian economy, trump joked to him that if canada can't survive without ripping't off the u.s. to the tune ofne $100 billion a year, then maybe canada should become the 51st 51st strait and trudeau could become its governor. >> trump having some fun on truth social, posting an aitop photo of himself, with the caption "o canada."o and trump getting results from enemies, warning the terrorist organization hamas that there will be hell to pay if theye don't release hostages in gaza before inauguration day. dana, do we know how many hodges are even -- hostages are even alive?indi

>> no,, but we have indication that some are, and they need to be released, and i think it was absolutely right of president trump to lay down the gauntlet. hesome said that, if i win, by january 20th, they will be released, and he meant that. i don't know how many are alive. i hope that we can rescue more. not just that they're released and rescued.d be it's interesting here too, if you remember, before 2016, when -- during that transition, there was a lot that led to an impeachment about outrage of o president trumutp doing anything that would seem as out-reach. there's only one president at a time, how dare you do that.me this. time, first of all, kamala harris has been seen once since the election concession speech that she gave, it was in that video. on her schedule every single day, it days meetings. and president biden, he cast the

pardon and flies to africa, again, i'm all for that trip, but doesn't say anything.re who is i pn charge? so in some ways, the bidene? administration has just conceded the next 60 days to president trump. they're not complaining about any of this. and in fact, trudeau probably would have been timid aboutro coming to see donald trump in 2016, but there's none of thatlt now. there's a little bitmp i of self-interest here as well. there's a pop lace strain happening all over the world and western civillation, and true in canada as well. thank goodness they told us that was an ai photo, because i kind of believed it was true.ind >> jesse, it's kind of interesting that world leaders, they're all falling into place. the president of mexico calls within 2 hours, or maybe it was trudeau. and trudeau flies down to w mar-a-lagoho. and interesting speaking about france, i mean, you've got the

president of france, notside trudeau -- >> macron. >> macron inviting donald trump and not joe biden to the openind of the notre dame cathedral on november 8th. the world is already treating him like he's president. >> macron invited the real president, dr. jill. she's going to be there. i've never seen anything like. this before, and no one is shocked that this is happening. i am so supportive of making trudeau governor. i've never been more excited by anything in my entire life. we will make canada 51 and 52. western canada will be republicans, eastern canada will be democratic to keep the electoral balance. so many reasons to make this a state. it has the third largest oil reserves in the world, so that

makes us an energy behemoth.most the most well-educated country in this world, because we need i help in that department. mining, agriculture, fishing, ai tech, real estate, canada, young name it, they've got it. we'll never probably lose w another winter olympics. we'll have all of their skaters and skiers. good luck sweden, and they share our cultural heritage and language. i don't know if canada is going to go along with it, but there's ways to maybe change their opinion. [ laughter ] >> do you want to end it there? [ speaking simultaneously o ]de >> that'a.s fine. we'll pay to protect them as a state. but we're doubling the size of the country, america! think about it. >> thank you, jesse.>> >> charlie. tell me about the.e art of the deal at this level. i meanstar, the world leaders ae all falling into place, and thi

is a president who doesn't believe in compromise. i mean, he's acting on thisin c america first, basically saying to trudeau and canada saying, you know, your economy can'tand survive unless you rip us off o. billions of dollars. >> and trudeau thought that his best argument was, well, that would crater our economy. and exactly, that's my point. and i think it was a peace offering, a fig leaf, saying, we'll just make you a state, ani everything will be great.ma 10 yearske in, this guy has been on the public scene as president or a sce candidate for almost ta year fs now, and the guy is stil doing -- this may be the trumpiest, trumpian thing he han done. who has that staying power and ability to blow people's minds 10 years in, and at the heart oi it, and people will freak out,lr

i'm sure. i feel that the freak out is a little bit -- people, like, get him now, so there's not quite the freak-out that there was in the early days of his trump stuff. but at the heart of it, as you pointed out, is something that,s makes a lot of sense. s he's tryinomg to get something done and being a funny guy, a little bit of d hea bully, andte getting something done for america! >> he's always been kindomet ofn entertainer. he's of that ilk, you know. isn't it interesting, richard, that he's a dictator, fascist, and all these things, and he opens his home to joe and mika, and zuckerberg gave 400 million0 to biden m, and he opens his hoe up to zuckerberg, and it goes on and on. what a fascist,.st >> i didn't call him a fascist. hopefully we take a socializedid

medicine as well. [ speaking simultaneously ] >> or the subsidized college and universities. >> or they come down here for healthcare. but to your point, a part of mer actually agrees with you. i think that there's a point in this that democrats have to acknowledge that trump is going to be the incoming president, so the hysteria has to go away ando figure outw how to deal.al and the foreig.n leaders, sayin, we will try to work with what wg have, and trump has given us a lot ofe. material to work with. case and point, he said there's no tax on tips, so i think democrats, if they were smart, to write a bill on no tax onhe tips. cap credit cards to 10%.card he says he wants to wind down10 reckless spending at the pentagon, bernie sanders has been talking about a lot. and put the bills on the floor on day 1, saying, republicans,

many who disagree with many of these things, pass the bills, because the president wantse them. thent let's go, we want these te let's get them done. >> not a bad point. >> chicago residents ripping their woke mayor to shreds for raising their taxes while givin. freebies to illegals. [ ♪♪ ] ♪ ♪ give the gift of adventure. now through december 8th, purchase special holiday gift cards and save 10%. buy in store or online at bass pro shops and cabela's.

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[ ♪♪ ] >> cities have had enough. chicago residents given theirth woke mayor johnson for giving priority to illegal immigrantsor overstruggling americans.s, some of the folks rooting forro president-elect trump. trump, told me, make an example out of this [ bleep ] first.

we're going to help you.beca >> and you so strong about protecting those aliens, but yoc won't do nothing for the u.s. citizens. >> mayor johnson's leadership defined by progressive rhetoric and a decisive agenda. >> another gritty tax hike, house your illegal immigrants, you told trump you ain't going to bleep., while wewh ain't either. >> so dana, when you look at things like that, you start togl think that this sort of new political movement that donald trump has put together could possibly be lasting. >> we talked about consequences in the "a" block, and when there are consequences for bad policies and balletbooks. so it's -- playbooks. imagine if the bengals, weed watched all the tapes from theim season, and say, we will run the

exact same plays next year, you can't do to them or the peopleh or chicago.no it's obvious that they're desperate. eric adams of new york asked for a change in the sanctuary policy a few years ago, and the city council blew him off. now the timing is perfect to say, we're going to cooperate with i.c.e. who ising going to complain? and if you care about the lawfui immigrant, the one here doing the right thing, going through the process, trying to make sure that they stay square with the law, then the best thing you could do is cooperate with i.c.e., with the 1.4 million immigrants already designated with deportation because they've committed crimes or herey or illegally or committed crimes ig their country of origin. i think it's exciting to see

people going to a city council meeting standing up foro themselves. and to the mayors, why not bes, for what's going to happen and do it.d do >> jesse, in new york, one of the problems that eric adams haf is it's hard to get city council to's h go along with some of the stuff.but tom homan, name checked barack obama and hillary clinton, saying, look at what they used to say about criminals, and name check them to say, we need to deport illegal aliens who are criminals. >> yeah, he was the deporter in chief. and i'll be using that line on richard for days. [ laughter ] >> the guy needs help, he also needs a pardon, which is maybe why he's asking trump to give him a hand here. it's fine. we'll cut a deal. one of the reasons he probably got incited is because he -- indicted because he criticized

joe biden. this guy in chicago has a 14% approval rating. and i would do the opposite of what i had done before. cook county is going to the right, and this idiot is going to the left. i don't understand this guy. violent crime, homicide decades highs since biden open the door in chicago, and they cooperatecc with the feds all the time. they have fugitive tax forces, they cooperate with all the forces. they need to extend a hand and not act like a whacko. >> who is your approval rating right now? >> iprovn the mid 30s. >> so double brandon johnson. richard, over the weekend,week chicago pd warned their officers to b be careful of these illegal aliens. but that they refuse to deport

these criminal gangs.ng how can you expects. not to get punished over this? >> i thi think that those that e inntry this country committing crimes to be deported. both mayor adams and johnson lobbied the biden administratioh toer do something about this. i think that both can be true at the same time. some of the sanctuary policiesma passed by the mayors, and the policy that was passed before brandon was the mayor and adam was the mayor, those policies may not have been the best, but the idea of busing unscreened individuals into the middle of the country wasn't the best idea, and texas saying, we want them back to make some money ofo of them. whi

you bus them to the interior ofw the country, and now we don'twh know where many of these individuals are. those policies might not be the best. >> i didn't understand that, but go ahead. [ speaking simultaneously ]>> >> policies that brought all ofe the illegal aliens t po thealie country may not having the best. >> judge jeanine: let me tell you something, this is time for the american people to have a "come to jesus" moment with these pom toes -- pompous air arrogant people to -- so that they can be considered what? i don't know, a saint. i'm not sure what they're looking for. and this is really why you're losing people like people in the inner city, why you havee pe chicago -- people in chicago, they don't want theirn' after-school programs endet d ad

all of these buildings that they use their after-school programs so that illegals can live there. what are illegals doing? okay, committing crimes inegal sanctuary cities. and we have to getitti them ay translator and a lawyer. we have to spend our lawawye enforcement time and in new york city, they're tellingwn us that 75% of the crime in new york city and manhattan is committed by illegals.city but they're taking jobs off thet books, not payinakg taxes, and there's unfortunately a lot ofes crime, especially with those who are ms13 and trendaragwa. and this mayor in chicago wants $300 million to tax thtse peopl$ of chicago because of thebe migrants, all right,ca and when they went ballistic, he said, i'll lower to $60 million. and you have fools, like gavinns newsom that want to trump proof. the state.

you idiot, you lost millions of dollars from the he is homele crisis, an td now he wants to spend $25 million to get lawyers to protect the illegals on am be dporration list from being deported. it's time americ saia said, enoh with you. i don't know who you're tryingto to benefit, but it's not the american people. and there's two sides to that. >> i think a lot of misinformation there. >> that was a question, not a comment. >> mine was too.>> m okay. >> got twas o go. up next, a clueless jane fonda j over the left wing in democratic party. the day you get your clearchoice dental implants changes your struggle with missing teeth forever. it changes how you eat, how you feel, and how you enjoy life. clearchoice network doctors

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[ ♪♪ ] >> legend jane fonda seems to be in denial about the democrats lurch to the far left. plenty of examples to the contrary. >> they just suggest something to the average person, which i completely understand, which isr wow, do you people ever find anything that's ridiculous? you really think men can getthin pregnant, that kind of stuff. >> i've never heard anythingard about this argument. might be part of the far left that is so minuscule. >> you can't throw this back on us. i assumes it's because you are locked into media that just never -- never wants anyone in their audience to know anything sketchy about the blue team. >> charlie, what is going onng o here? >> i think she's a new york times reader, and like a lot ofn the people in the democrat party.pe anopd if i were a new york time

reader, i probably would hate donald trump, and she doesn't realize how far the party has moved. remember when nones pel was the -- nancy pelosi was the far left wring of the democrat demot party, and was the center, and then now she's the conservative partng. of the democrat party.e >> say, i don't for a minutenu considerte california a state tt is extreme leftist, not at all, in any way. >> you know she is one of the coastal elites so far in the bubble, and for bill maher to say that to her, bill maher is almost coming across as a reasonable guy, who is certainly not on the left. but i think she's one of those people who just reads the kinds of stuff she says.t two newspapers, one is theea times, did shed say the other

one? >> no. >> thaothet just kind of affirms what she believes, so she's innh that bubble.sh and i don't know thaet she's so bright that sh ye would want toa look at things to contest what she believes in. >> richard, is this a minor blii ons the autopsy post-election, somebody like a jane fonda, or is there a larger strain of democrat, liberal that is sortal of blind to what the american people were saying in november? >> i thinknove when the democrao this autopsy, i think we live in a divided country. 48% of the people vote forr th harris-walz, and trump-vance 52%. the acronym soup, and spend a lot of time, whether you like joe biden or not, we didn't tald about what he did well well. he cap s insulin, and i'm waiting to hear the story about the f

benefits orof that. still waiting for that story.. how do you connect with yourde people and have a conversation r people? w right now, the highest rate of diabetes in this country is the mississippi delta. here is something to make your, life easier. >> focused on, jesse, is that democracy was going to die as soon as donald trump won the election. they've gone silentt on that.ed >> richard hasge made some good points, amongst a lot of garbage. >> every other segment, you makn a really great point. b if we coule d just be consistenh >> richard, stopat talking, you got a compliment. >> i think we're giving her too much credit that he's a reader.

her media diet is probably the today show, nightly news at 6:30. >> you don't think access hollywood. >> maybe mario lopez who is on this show tonight.i' he really is. i love mario lopez. >> you hav we to forge, as a conservative, for news.va it's notti easy. we have to go look at transcripts an d read the indictment, because it is spuneb so hard. we need primary sources to research things. it's crazy. so i cast a wide net, with an coulter, and access. i do the playbooks. >> like having coffee and then water. >> exactly, kind of. d of.n do you suffer from brain rot? we're going to tell you. find out next. [ ♪♪ ]ill

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content on social media. you probably got a little bit og that on cyber monday. >> this happened to me the othea night, and not proud to admit a it. dm i usually read a novel before bed, but i just wanted to see it someone important texted me --ty they never do. and then this, and 8 minutes go by, and i was still looking at these tiktok videos of nothing, or instagram reels, they're all rot. and i could feel myself getting dumber. >> judge jeanine, do you brain? rot. >> it's twthato words. >> it's hyphenated. >> and the other thing, do i overconsume material that is -- [ speaking simultaneously ] >> online shopping. >> i don't online shop as much as i used to, but i do this darn puzzle, and this past week, i got rid of the puzzle. >> which one? >> woody. that puzzle. and then ihe said, you know what

jeanine, you're not going to go back to it. plus it does nothing for my brain, at night, i watch ellis own, over and over again. >> could be the new brain rot. charlie. >> my favorite thing, it's not a new word, it was used in 1854 in walden, but he used it t describe the oversimple occasion of something. it -- simplification of something. it was brain rot. and now it's the overcomplication. and when you put it down, you're dumber than when you looked at it. >> but you have fun looking at dog videos. >> of course. that's why we're dumber at the end. >> jesse. >> you heard me say, i don't see color.lor. i don't notice your black or

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