drive some money your way, all right, so you can make more dreams come true. do you like that idea? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> bill: keep doing great work. rachel, congratulations, you have done well. see you ladies down the road. thank you. >> bye. >> dana: they're great. my devotional today said generosity is what brings you joy. i think that they embody that for sure. before we go that time of year when we find what we listen to the most this year and reveal our spotify. >> bill: i had a big problem with mine. i think it is more accurate. zach bryan. miles davis and springsteen. >> dana: kenny chesney, smutly and morgan and taylor swift. let me add that to the list. "the faulkner focus" is next. hi, martha. >> thank you very much. we start with a fox news alert

because there is a lot happening on capitol hill right now. elon musk and vivek ramaswamy on the hill today talking to republican lawmakers about their plans to slash wasteful government spending. welcome to "the faulkner focus" everybody. i i'm martha maccallum in for harris today. doge, they are signaling they want to cut trillions. 2 trillion from all of our spending. and now democrats are saying look, don't let republicans own this. some of us think it is a good idea as well. watch this. >> i just think that there is not a single american who thinks government is perfect and not anything that can't be changed. so i'm not afraid of having the conversation. >> i don't know why it's controversial to eliminate waste. anybody could support making our government more efficient and

saving whatever money that we can. >> martha: bernie sanders showed his support for musk's pitch to rein in the pentagon's massive budget. this is bernie sanders, he is a very smart guy. we need a strong military but we don't need all the waste and profiteering and fraud that exists in the pentagon right now. joni ernst said she is ready to get to work. >> i have been studying government waste for a decade now and proposing legislative solutions. this is why i'm so excited about vivek and elon grabbing ahold of this. we are going to push through to save our american taxpayers from all of this government waste, fraud and abuse. >> martha: senator john cornyn

is a founding member of the doge caucus and just met with vivek rama ramaswamy. he will join us now. elon musk is meeting in another office with the brand-new senate majority leader john thune. welcome. great to have you here today. give us a sense of what the energy is like. what the conversation specifically was like in vivek ramaswamy about this project. >> it's a very exciting time. we all know this is a change election. the american people felt like the country was heading in the wrong direction and one of those big reasons is because of inflation, because of federal government spending because the size of the federal government and $36 trillion in debt, which threatens our ability to defend ourselves in a very dangerous world. i am really happy that elon musk and vivek ramaswamy have decided to helped up the doge effort. they will raise the visibility of a lot of these things that frankly have needed to be dealt

with for a long time but haven't had the energy behind or the visibility on these issues. we are going to try to come together and on a bipartisan basis if we can and to cut some of that debt and make the federal government more efficient. >> martha: as you say, 70 plus% of americans did not like the direction of the country. they want significant shake-up and change and looks like that's what we'll get. new "wall street journal" column today talks about this. great doge reversal as a project that will put citizens back on top and it argues that governments rise to dominance in most of our lifetimes began when lyndon johnson's great society came in the 1960s. it became normal that a powerful national government and business could co-ex tense. it has never been challenged. the primary purpose of doge is

to reverse that relationship to make government subordinate in the daily lives of citizen. tell me how you and other members of congress feel about this idea it is the citizens who should be in charge and we need to slash agencies and government entities that are wasting a ton of money. >> well, this is not an original thought. this goes back to the 10th amendment where we have a federal government with states and individuals retaining the power so it is not expressly delegated to the federal government. the federal government has gotten bigger and more bloated as it has taken on more responsibility because of the taxing power the federal government has. many of the states have become dependent on the money that is sent back to them from the federal government. but this is not a freebie. it means that we are

increasingly imposing debt obligations on our children and grandchildren. and it is unsustainable. as i mentioned in a dangerous world, perhaps the most dangerous we've seen since world war ii we're on a path spending more interest on the national debt than on defense. we have to fix that. >> martha: it is crazy. we look at a picture on the left-hand side of the screen much elon musk and his little boy. he brought him to washington to shake things up. when was the last time any senate member proposed dramatic cuts to spending and had a serious discussion about it. it feels like it doesn't happen. >> raising the visibility of this issue as elon and vivek have done i think will give us an opportunity to try to find some consensus here. some of these things president trump can do unilaterally

through executive orders. some of them we can do through something called the congressional review act. we need to rack and stack priorities where we can have the biggest impact quickly. this is a small window of opportunity now and shame on us if we don't take advantage of this opportunity to do what we know we have needed to do a long time but just haven't had the ability to get it done. >> martha: i know joni ernst, i know musk has said he can find $2 trillion to cut from government. joni ernst has said we'll try to do a trillion was her language on that. can you commit here today that congress, the senate side can cut a trillion dollars or even $2 trillion? >> well, we spend -- the federal government spends in exist of $6 trillion. we know that again the government has gotten bigger and bigger and bigger and the reason why it's happening is because

we've been incurring more and more debt. congress has tried to kick the can down the road on some of the hard decisions, which are where we should cut and where we should seek efficiencies. but frankly we have run out of road to kick the can down. i am really excited about the opportunity we have now as a result of the confluence of all these events. >> martha: can you commit to cutting a trillion dollars? >> i will give it my best shot. >> martha: president-elect trump's pick to be attorney general pam bondi on capitol hill this week to meet with senators to decide if she will lead our justice department. a photo of the two of you speaking yesterday. tell me about pam bondi's bid to become the attorney general, how your conversation went and whether you think she will have any issue in her confirmation process? >> pam bondi and i share in common that we were former attorney generals in our respective states.

she in florida, me in texas. so i think we both share a desire to restore these most fundamental institutions like the department of justice and f.b.i. into non-political entities. to me that's been one of the worst things that has happened during the comey administration at the f.b.i. and under the lynch administration at the department of justice carried on with merrick garland. people don't trust the f.b.i. or department of justice to be impartial and non-political institutions. to me that's the most important thing pam bondi can do. i know she is committed to doing that and intend to do everything i can to help her >> martha: exciting day in washington. everybody is expecting a big shake-up to happen thanks to musk and ramaswamy and the senators on board. day three right now of the jury

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>> martha: getting hot at this hearing going on. the final hearing on the assassination attempts against president-elect trump. acting secret service director ronald rowe is testifying about those two instances but it got very heated with republican congressman pat fallon from texas when they got into intelligence and september 11th. watch this. >> actually, congressman, what

you are not seeing is the stack of the detail out of the picture's view and that is the day where we remember the more than 3,000 people that have died on 9/11. i actually responded to ground 0. i was there going through the ashes of the world trade center. i was there at -- >> i'm not asking you that. i'm asking you if -- were you have the man in charge? you were not? oh, that's a bunch of -- you were trying to be. >> do not invoke 9/11 for political purposes. >> i'm not. >> you are, sir. you are out of line. >> you are out of line. >> order, order. >> elected member of congress and asking you a serious question and you are playing politics. >> i'm a public service who served this nation and -- >> you won't answer the question. >> on our country's darkest day. >> the committee will come to order. committee will come to order. >> i'm asking you serious

questions for the american people. were you the special agent in charge? >> i was not. i was there representing the united states secret service and it did not affect protective operations. >> i was there to pay respect for a fallen member of this agency. out of line, congressman. >> you put those agents out of position. did you have a radio with you? >> mr. fallon, your time is up. >> i did and you are out of line. >> mr. chairman, mr. chairman, mr. chairman, please. >> we are back in order now, thank you. >> martha: sometimes things get a little heated and this is a topic enormously sensitive. imagine what this country would be like right now if things had gone differently. if that assassination attempt had been successful in butler on

july 13th. emotions are running high. i believe the question was around his presence, ronald rowe, the acting director of secret service. remember the director stepped down after butler. he is asking about his presence at the 9/11 ceremony and what the purpose of his positioning on that day was. you can see it got very emotional and we'll continue to keep a close eye on what is going on as they try to figure out the future of the secret service and who should be held accountable. watch this. >> in these cases we are talking about kids making decisions that could result in life-long lack of fertility, life-long lack of sexual function, a lifetime of dealing with cognitive impairments, tumors, blood clots. there are serious risks. every systematic analysis of the evidence shows minimal to no benefits to kids from these

procedures. >> martha: that was tennessee's republican attorney general on the supreme court oral arguments in the case of transgender treatment involves the constitutionality of state laws that ban gender transition medical treatment for people under the age of 18 is what is being discussed. the justices appeared divided on this issue after listening for over two hours to the arguments that were presented challenging tennessee's ban against these procedures for minors. watch this. >> >> you say there are benefits from allowing these treatments. there are also harms, right, from allowing these treatments. the state says so, lost fertility. physical and psychological effect on those who later change their mind and want to detransition, which i don't think we can ignore. >> after the filing of your

petition, of course, we saw the release of the cass report in the united kingdom, which found a complete lack of high-quality evidence showing that the benefits of the treatments in question here outweigh the risks. >> my understanding is the constitution leaves that question to the people's representatives rather than to nine people none of whom is a doctor. >> martha: the supreme court justice brown jackson made this comparison. listen carefully. >> they sound in the same kinds of arguments that were made back in the day 50s, 60s with respect to racial classification and inconsistencies. i'm thinking in particular about loving. a court starts off saying virginia is now one of 16 states

which prohibited marriages on the basis of racial classifications. sort of the same thing. >> martha: she is making the suggestion that interracial marriage and allowing it or banning it back decades ago has some equivalence or comparison as a precedent to allowing children under the age of 18 to medically attempt to change their gender. critics sounded off on social media. one saying quote, we don't let minors get married for a reason, too. another the false equivalence train has left the station and this one how can someone who doesn't know what a woman is rule on a case involving gender? that last comment a reference to jackson's confirmation hearing in 2022 and this memorable moment. >> can you provide a definition for the word woman?

>> can i provide a definition? no. >> yeah. >> i can't. >> you can't? >> not in this context. i'm not a biologist. >> the meaning of the woman is so unclear and controversial you can't give me a definition? >> martha: jonathan turley fox news contributor and george washington university law professor joins us, jonathan, good to have you. let's focus on brown jackson first here and i want to get your take on the comparison that she made and what it tells us about her legal thinking and her approach to this issue. >> well, it's baffling for many of us heard that come up in oral argument but consistent with an effort among the liberal justices to portray any questioning of the science here and the basis for the tennessee

law as effective discrimination based upon gender identity or upon sexual orientation or gender generally. that was a bit of an overreach for most of us when we heard that. this really does not raise the loving case. the issue here for the state and 23 other states is that they believe that the medical record here, the science is in conflict. and you have reports by recognized and respected bodies saying that we think there are significant risks here. then you have the cass report saying we didn't find any measurable benefits to balance against those risks. those are all medical opinions that have to be weighed here. but the justices on the left tended to be fairly dismissive of that and suggested that the court should just step in and say you know what? you cannot prevent this from happening if you are a given

state. if you are half this country, half the states. we are going to say that you cannot take this preventive or protective measure. >> martha: another topic that i want to get to with you jonathan. the president-elect, donald trump is pushing a georgia appeals court to throw out the fulton county district attorney fani willis's case against him accusing him of trying to overturn the 2020 presidential election results in the state of georgia. the president-elect's lawyers argue that this case should be dismissed before trump's inauguration on january 20th citing presidential immunity. his classified documents and federal interference cases have already been tossed. trump's attorney filed a motion to dismiss the new york criminal case on monday as well. your thoughts on the latest move to try to excise this georgia case from the docket. >> well, this entire case is

leaking like a sieve. it always has. based on in my view a ridiculous rico theory to get to the president. there are some crimes in this case. relatively minor against some defendants like unauthorized access, but to get the president, they had to create this real rube goldberg type of racketeering theory that i don't think will hold up upon review and you have willis's own conduct and whether she should be removed from the case. a debate what will bring the case down. there are a lot of possibilities here. the fact is that courts tend to try to leave these to juries and fact finders and so willis knows she has an advantage. keep in mind this entire case is teetering legally in my view. i can't see even if she would secure a conviction that she would be able to sustain it on appeal. i don't believe the case should go to jury or trial.

i think it is a laughable case against the former president. >> martha: quickly, jonathan. what is your take on judge mcphee. based on what we learned about him during the process is he inclined the toss it? >> he just delivered a fairly large blow to willis because he said she had to turn over any documents related to communications with the j-six committee and special counsel. he has shown, i think, a fair degree of balance here. i have had a lot of respect for some of the decisions he has reached. i have no objection to him as a judge. my objection is the underlying case. >> martha: let's talk a little bit about what's going on now in downtown manhattan where the jury is deliberating day three now in the case that has really caught the attention of the nation. daniel penny's trial. this jury is in the process of deciding if this marine veteran is guilty of killing jordan neely in a struggle on a new

york city subway last year. yesterday the jurors did ask for a few issues to review in testimony and in video evidence. "new york post" editorial board calling out district attorney alvin bragg calling him a menace to our society and here is the quote from this editorial. bragg playing to race-obsessed activists brought charges of second degree manslaughter as insurance in hopes the jury would agree to the lesser charge of negligent homicide. so he has given them two options. they say even if penny is found innocent on all charges his ordeal sends a grim message to all new yorkers. don't think about standing up to protect the innocent. so that is the editorial board's take on that at the "new york post." what is yours, jonathan? >> i think the editors are correct in every respect of that

editorial. i can't imagine someone on the subway today familiar with this case taking the risk that they would be put through this same ordeal by stepping up and trying to protect fellow riders. this case in my view is absurd. i don't see the basis for it. i was hoping for a quick acquittal. i am encouraged as some of the evidence works to penny's favor including the cross examination of the pathologist. i thought that cross examination was very effective. but you can easily have a couple of hold-out jurors here who want to see a conviction particularly on the lesser standard. so you can have this go for days as they work on one or two jurors. ultimately if they say they are a jury deadlocked the judge will give them an order to say try again. sometimes that's enough to get people off their mark but, you know, we're all waiting. i was hoping for a quick acquittal to send a different

message than the one you just referred to. >> martha: all right. we wait for this jury for them to make their decision. it has to be unanimous as you pointed out. we'll see if they ask for more information today as you pointed out. they wanted the cross examination of the medical examiner that was interesting. that examiner said it was death by choke hold and they wanted the cross on that discussion. jonathan, thanks, we'll see you later. good to see you. >> thanks, martha. >> martha: right now we have a hearing about the fda director on processed foods and their impacts on children and obesity. there is something that we have heard a lot about from rfk junior. looks like there is support on both sides of the aisle. he is now trump's pick for hhs secretary. new details in the manhunt for the killer of united healthcare's ceo. this man. unbelievable tragedy that happened a few blocks from here yesterday morning. they are still looking for this

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>> martha: a shooter is still on the loose in new york after gunning down the ceo of united healthcare in manhattan yesterday morning. police are calling it brazen and targeted. chilling video, a heart stopping moment and it was so for brian thompson, father of two, ceo of you have nighted healthcare. this man walked up behind help outside a hotel. had a mask over half his face. he raises the gun and fires at brian thompson. police say the suspect fled from the scene using a bicycle and disappeared into central park. former inspector paul mauro says

this. >> the likelihood of stranger on stranger killings in anywhere in america but including new york city are very, very rare. even in a place the size of new york city where you have hundreds of homicides every year, the instances of stranger on stranger are exceedingly small. he probably was targeted. >> martha: alexis mcadams in new york city has the latest for us. brand-new photos in this investigation. hi, alexis. >> hi. it has been more than 24 hours and counting with this manhunt. now getting a clear photo of what this suspect looks like. take a look on your screen. the new video, photo coming in from the nypd. this i'm told by sources and also the "new york post" is reporting that that grinning picture of this gunman was taken

at a nearby hoste. he rode an e-bike after the shooting. this photo was taken at the spot he was staying. not that far for central park on the city's upper west side. man, did they clear shots of him. they ran those and still running those through some systems to try to i.d. this guy. coming back live one of the other key pieces of information as we're putting this puzzle together on the ground is that there was possible messages written on some shell casings that were left at the scene and could give us a closer look at what the motive is. pull those up there. this is what it says according to sources, deny, depose and defend. investigators say those were etched onto the bullet cases. they are similar to the title of a book called delay, deny and defend. it is similar in investigators are trying to figure out if that

is something to do with the motive. the book was written in 2010. the shooting was caught on camera and it is difficult to watch so we froze it right before he is hit. but that is the united healthcare ceo brian thompson. shot in the leg and shot right in the chest. that gunman was waiting for him. >> pieces to the puzzle are still coming together. we're on the right pathway. we don't want to do anything that will impede the investigation but hurt the prosecution of the person involved. but we feel that we are moving at a steady pace and we are going to have someone apprehended. >> here is the closer look at that gunman again. these were taken at a nearby starbucks. his face is covered in the first one. the second picture is more clear. he had a mask on and gloves on and a hoodie on. he went and grabbed a coffee before he killed this ceo and

father of two and threw something in the trash. that's evidence in the case. they will try to get the dna off that. thompson was one of the biggest health insurance at the head of the helm in the country. 50 years old. lived in minnesota and just in town to speak at the investors day conference at the hilton hotel in midtown. it is horrible. people want to know where the gunman is. put yourself in the shoes of wife and two kids. your dad is not coming home right before christmas. a heartbreaking situation. also thompson's wife had told other outlets he was getting lots of threats including a phone call from someone threatening his life and did not have security with him when he was shot and killed in the big apple. >> martha: those images you showed us are so clear. anyone who knows him or worked with this guy or is in his family or is a former friend from high school will be able to

identify this person. those photos should speed this up dramatically. thank you very much, alexis. great reporting. all right. coming up right now outgoing fda commissioner robert callus is testifying about a key issue that is a huge focus for president-elect trump's pick for human services. processed foods and their impact on our children. it is part of the rfk junior plan to make america healthy again. last month he spoke with fox about it. watch. >> fruit loops in our country is just loaded with chemicals and food dyes that are cars anygenic. cause adhd in your kids. 70% of food stamps go to processed foods. 10% of food stamps go to sewed

yeas. we give our foods that are poison and i will stop that. >> martha: he has a confirmation process to get through. republicans and democrats are voicing concern or interest in some of these really hot topics. mike emanuel is in washington with the latest. >> there could be common ground between big names on the left and trump administration. let's look at the hearing before the senate health committee. senators are hearing from the-out going fda commissioner and the childhood obesity problem. some bipartisan concerns. >> according to the cdc, the rate of childhood obesity in america has tripled since the 1970s and has gotten so bad that one out of every five children in our country is now obese. >> the panel's top republican is

a medical doctor. >> a great place to start is the nation's food supply and changes in americans diets. 37% of adults consume an unhealthy diet. i'm pleased to say reducing obesity among children is bipartisan. >> after the election robert f. kennedy, jr. spoke what he could do to make america healthy again. >> i can cut corruption out of the agencies. it's what i've been doing for 40 years. i sued the agency. i have a phd in corporate production, that's what i do. once americans are getting good science and allowed to make their own choices they'll get a lot healthier. >> he was nominated to lead health and human services. >> martha: the fight for fairways on the fair way. lpga is announcing a major change to gender eligibility

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>> martha: the lpga is updating their gender eligibility possibility and a major step forward in the fight for fairness in women's sports. players born as males will be banned from tournament play beginning in january. women's sports advocate riley gaines posted in celebration the l in lpga means something again. steve harrigan has more on this story for us. hi, steve. >> this is a major change by the lpga. if you've gone through male puberty, even if you've transitioned to a woman, you cannot play beginning january in lpga tournaments. lpga writing our policy is reflective of an extensive signens-based. a number of golfers born as

males trying to qualify for the lpga including haley davidson who played on a men's college golf team. she posteding aly thanks for nothing. distance off the tee is a key factor which many should say should go beyond golf. >> it shouldn't be the responsibility of the athlete to insure the competitive application of even and starts and fairness and unfortunate that more leagues aren't taking the same stand that the lpga is. >> the lpga was under pressure to make such a move. a letter from 270 women golfers who demanded the change. martha, back to you. >> martha: let's bring in joe concha. good to see you this morning. what is your take on this? >> good morning. this is a no-brainer for the lpga and a consequence of donald trump's resounding victory one month ago. that victory is a signal to

professional and amateur sports that biological men should not be competing against biological women. exit polls show this issue played a big role to help get donald trump elected. the reasons are just as steroids and human growth hormones give people advantages. the same goes for men who have a built-in advantage over women. therefore, making any competition a fixed fight. poll after poll shows 3/four of the country say the biological men should not compete against biological women. if you are the lpga and on the wrong side of an issue that ain't good for business, pr. it shows women on the tour you have their backs and we're seeing women at colleges like boise state and women's volleyball team forfeiting tournament games. that's a big deal in volleyball.

more female athletes are saying enough. good for them and the country quite frankly. >> martha: lpga setting this standard for what the cut-off is. whether or not you had gone through puberty and made that change prior to that. then you have the supreme court taking on exactly that issue that they want these treatments to be limited to people after the age of 18. looks like we're seeing some big shifts in all of this, if the supreme court follows along with what it sounded like they would do yesterday. we'll see about that. in the meantime another question for you, joe, the boston city council has reaffirmed their support for a law that prohibits city police from assisting ice in removing migrants who have deport orders coming amid of slew of violent crimes committed by illegal immigrants in the state. two dozen were reported since september alone. get a look at some of these charges, horrific as they are in

massachusetts. boston's mayor and massachusetts's governor are among those who have strongly pushed back on president-elect trump's border plans. watch this. >> if the trump administration requests it, would the massachusetts state police assist in mass deportations? >> no, absolutely not. we are not cooperating with those efforts that actually threaten the safety of everyone by causing widespread fear. >> we aren't going to ask our police force to serve as ice agents. >> i will do everything i can to protect our undocumented immigrants. they're residents of our state. >> martha: i predict it didn't go well. adams and hochul will allow the new york city police help deport criminals. >> those who are here committing crimes, robberies, shooting at police officers, raping innocent people, have been a harm to our

country, i'm going to protect the people of this city. >> someone breaks the law i'll be the first one to call up ice and say get them out of here. the first one to help get rid of them. i don't want them here. i don't want anybody terrorizeing my citizens. >> martha: some critics are calling them to go one step further to re-examine the sanctuary status overall. your take. >> let's stick with this theme like our last topic. if you support sanctuary cities like some of the mayors and governors you showed in states like illinois, california, massachusetts, you are in a decided minority with the public. again, poll after poll in this case shows 80% of voters overall oppose sanctuary cities. why? if you live in a city that is a sanctuary city, you see the destruction of quality of life. serenely services being cut. police and education and sanitary and places like new york or aurora, colorado where

gangs are taking over cities. there are 600 vancouver wear jurisdictions, cities and towns of differs sizes across the country that identify as sanctuary cities. if you want to stick to this and battle somebody like tom homan who has been clear he will go through the governors and mayors to enforce the law with the backing of the u.s. government, roll the dice and take your chances. it is overwhelmingly unpopular with the public. >> martha: mayor adams wants to meet with tom homan and work together on this. i think you will see a lot of blue city governors, mayors and governors going with this as well. joe, thank you very much. thank you all at home for watching "the faulkner focus." i'm martha maccallum. i will see you back at 3:00 p.m. eastern for "the story." tonight we have the patriot awards. "outnumbered" is up right after this break. stay with us.

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