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of deliberations, the former marine faces counts of manslaughter and homicide for subduing a reportedly agitated jordan neely in a choke hold on the new york city subway. facing up to 15 years in prison if convicted. first, an arrest could be imminent. the nypd says it is closing in on the suspect in the killing of united healthcare ceo brian thompson. i'm shannon bream coming to you live from the reagan national library this morning. bill and dana are off. i'm here because the reagan national defense forum is this weekend and a spectacular place here. you've been here and today i will bring it to our viewers, too. >> great to be working with you again. i'm mike emanuel. the manhunt in its third day and a lot of new evidence is coming to light. the suspect used a fake i.d. to check into a new york city

hostel and trying to pull dna from a water bottle and phone that he left behind. we have the latest from new york city. good morning, alexis. >> the question this morning is was this guy a skilled hit man paid to take out the ceo or was he a complete amateur? looking like he could have made some pretty big mistakes that could help investigators track him down. showing his face across new york city and maybe leaving behind some dna evidence, which is important to know. did get some information in that says he came in on a greyhound bus from atlanta. that's new. a person of interest in the murder of united healthcare ceo spotted checking into the fricke city hostile. he paid in cash. forget to hide his face pulling it down to talk with a front desk worker. he came into the city about ten days ago on that greyhound bus boarding it in atlanta.

he was spotted around new york city. he even went to a starbucks 20 minutes or so before he ended up shooting and killing the ceo. he bought something to drink. he drinks it, he throws it in the trash at the starbucks in mid town. big mistake i'm told by investigators. they have the bottle, cup and wrappers and run it for dna and fingerprints. the shooting was caught on camera. brian thompson walking in midtown is shot at least two times. once in the leg and once in the chest. the gunman used a modern version of an old-school suppressed handgun for this assassination. thompson was the ceo of one of the largest healthcare insurance companies in the world. he made about $10 million a year. highly paid, important at that company. security expert who talked to fox says he worked with thompson before and is shocked he didn't have security with him. >> i don't know of one top 20 company that does not have

personal security for their ceos. this is, like i say, this is completely unusual. >> so the gunman left a message for investigators that said deny, depose and defend on two shell casings. what's that all about? like the title of a book written before that slams the insurance companies. we'll see if there is any connection there or if they used that on wrote it to try to throw off police. we can tell you investigators are looking at the cell phone. he dropped a burner phone in the alley before he went off and got on an electric bike and took off into central park. that could also be key here, mike. >> mike: alexis, thanks very much. >> government is too big. does too many things and does nothing well. >> a lot of good ideas being talked about. >> focus the actual intent of the people's money, we have to do the job on capitol hill of

authorizing these agencies. >> republicans voicing support for the department of government efficiency or doge. co-chairs musk and ramaswamy made the rounds yesterday on capitol hill. let's bring in senator markwayne mullin, republican from oklahoma. welcome to the show this morning. >> thanks for having me on. >> shannon: start with this. senator ernst is focusing on getting federal workers working remotely back into the office on a more regular basis. >> i have been on this kick for three years since covid ended and we prior to covid had 3% of the federal workforce that did telework. now we only have 6% of our federal workforce actually going into work, something i have been pushing on is getting those

federal workers back into the offices or eliminating the buildings that they occupy. >> shannon: i have to say a lot of people hear those numbers are shocked. average americans long back to work. did you have any idea it was widespread. is that accurate? >> we knew that. 6% of federal bureaucrats work five days a week. on tuesdays, wednesdays and thursday are the only day that traffic is actually really bad. it is always bad in d.c. monday and friday it is a holiday, no one is around. so we're taxpayers are paying federal buildings literally to sit vacant. joannie is 100% right on this. we're wasting billions of dollars on rent and billions of dollars of unworked hours for federal employees to literally sit home. this is a failure of the biden administration. so when vivek andy elon start

looking to find money to cut from a federal budget when we're running a deficit here after year it is easily found just in the workforce and the unpaid rental space that we aren't using for offices. >> shannon: so you guys had meetings with them yesterday and they can make recommendations. they don't have congressional power. it is left up to you. here is byron donald on who is responsible for cleaning up the mess. >> the next big step is what does implementation look like? will it be by order in the white house or by something that congress has to do? i think you'll see some of both. >> shannon: how do you and your lawmakers there on capitol hill actually put some of these recommendations, teeth to them to make a real difference. can you? >> well, there are two areas at work here. first right off the bat president biden his administration through the executive branch can start making executive change orders those put in place that the

senate confirms which will be the head of the department can make changes. to follow that up to make it permanent that's where the legislative branch, the house and senate, will be working together to make those changes permanent. first of all we have to cut their budget, right? we're spending money that they aren't using appropriately for taxpayers and we need to start cutting their budget and cutting it soon. i think what vick and he elon can do is identify the agencies we can cut. what they can do is focus on one at a time and give us recommendations and we can make it permanent. i look forward to working with them. this is something that should have been done a long time ago. i use this example all the time. when we are buying companies, my wife and i can look at financial statements to look we can cut ten to 20% of overhead easy. when you look at a nonprofit, the federal government. we aren't for profit. we go in the red every month you can cut 20 to 30% on a nonprofit

budget on most cases, not always but most. when you start looking at what we're cutting now, we have over an $8 trillion budget that we spend, 1.8 trillion is deficit spending. it is not out of line at all for us to cut 20% within the first 18 months of the president's new administration. >> shannon: we know hard working americans want to make sure their tax dollars are going to something that is productive, that they care about and efficient. you have a lot of work ahead on this. good to see you this morning. >> thank you for having me on. >> we'll be very proud of our country again. it is going to be -- it is going to be better than ever before. >> mike: president-elect trump accepting the patriot of the year award on the fox nation patriot awards last night. several highlights from an unforgettable night honoring everyday heroes that don't get

the recognition they deserve. one was general dick cody awarded the fox weather ultimate patriot award for his heroism in the aftermath of hurricane helene. the widow of a fallen nypd officer accepted an award on his behalf. >> one thing i hope that jonathan's story resonates with people and realize that police officers are people. they go out there and risk their lives for our communities. >> mike: steffi accepted the tunnel to towers award. her husband was shot and killed by a career criminal in march. >> shannon: chinese spy campaign sitting right in your hands? what the feds are now warning about hackers targeting devices that give beijing access to your private communications. there is also this. >> they have spread into our country. it is a very serious threat and

one of our top priorities like fentanyl. >> shannon: violent venezuela gang spreading its reach across our country. now another alleged member busted in miami. find out how he evaded authorities for so long. authorities 0ing in on the assassin of a ceo in manhattan. paul mauro coming up on what his sources are telling him this morning. hi, my name is damian clark. and if you have both medicare and medicaid, i have some really encouraging news that you'll definitely want to hear. depending on

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>> mike: it's an amaceing comeback for one of the most iconic sites in the world. notre dame in paris is reopening this weekend after a fire in 2019. much of the roof caved in from the flames. france promised to restore the 900-year-old landmark.

president trump will go to the reopening. first lady jill biden is also expected to be there. >> shannon: alleged member of a violent venezuelan gang arrested in miami. a fugitive from the land after cutting off his ankle monitor and going on the run. danamarie mcnicholl has all the details. >> good morning. an alleged member of tren de aragua is behind bars in miami after being arrested for shoplifting and assaulting an officer. he is facing those charges but also deportation. 20-year-old abraham stood before a judge this past week. police tell us he crossed illegally into texas and was sent to chicago with an ankle monitor. he was scheduled to have an immigration hearing in 2025. instead he cut off that ankle monitor and headed right to south florida. the alleged tda member was one

of only 18,000 illegal migrants who have been given an angle monitor according to ice data. a small percentage of the 7 million people on the non-detained docket list. a customer of the dolphin mall took police he and two other venezuelan migrants threatened to beat him up. once in custody it was the take-to-of a rose and clock that identified him as a possible member of the gang tren de aragua. >> they're on notice. their days of committing crimes against u.s. citizens in this country are coming to an end. we'll hunt them down and arrest them and deport them. we'll lock them up and detain them until they see the judge. that's the plan right now. >> miami is a city with the second highest number of pending criminal charges for undocumented migrants. sitting about 6500 since the beginning of the biden administration. shannon. >> shannon: danamarie, thank you

so much this morning. mike. >> mike: the manhunt for the united healthcare ceo killer. police are closing in on the identity of the suspect. there is more about the killer and moments before the deadly shooting. let's bring in paul mauro, retired nypd inspector and the founder of ops desk.org. let's start with the cover of the "new york post" today. it says murder, inc., mid town assassin etched anti-insurance industry messages on his bullets. paul, if authorities are accurate that this guy came to new york city on a greyhound bus last month from atlanta, does that tell you that they know who he is? >> certainly looks like they're getting close. the significance at this point of those messages. a lot of debate, is it a false flag trying to throw off police? the significance of those messages, though, it consolidates the idea it was

targeted. mr. thompson was the target. you have to admit to the possibility up until then it was a random shooting, so you know thompson was the target. what the police have been doing is acting off of the hard and fixed data points that they have. despite all the speculation and they will entertain various theories. they had the video to start with of him lying in wait on 6th avenue. the salient fact there is that the convention was slated to start at 8:00. the shooting occurs at 6:40. the shooter knew he would be there an hour and 20 minutes before the event. but they had video. so putting all that something i'm sure they're developing various that theories to mr. thompson's life and they took the video and looked for similar videos and that's how they put him at the youth hostel.

they got a facial. facial recognition. that likely hit some video. the port authority in new york has a lot of public cameras that are city owned and i would bet that they probably hit a facial rec hit there. that's where the buses come from all over the country into new york. that's how they got the bus and they are backtracking from there. it feels like a matter of time. i hear that they are making progress. >> mike: phillip klein says quote, it was normal operation for that company, united healthcare, that they would have their own private security team to take care of their corporate executives. the united healthcare ceo victim was walking around new york city by himself early that morning. what do you make of that? >> you know, the truth of the matter is, this goes for even high-profile political figures. they hate having security around. they feel like everything they

do is being shot shadowed. the principal, the person you are trying to guard, every cop does some of this. they get irritated and might have been that kind of guy that didn't want somebody at his elbow at all times. i wouldn't read too much into that. probably felt fairly anonymous despite the fact he was a prominent figure. but it was very likely his personal choice. >> mike: get to another topic. jury deliberations continue this morning in the trial of marine veteran daniel penny. the longer this goes, do you have any sense of whether that's good for penny or bad? >> it's very hard to say. everybody is guessing. all these rumors the verdict would come this week and verdicts do sometimes come on friday, it seems. it is very -- nobody knows what is going on inside the

courtroom. they've asked for three pieces of evidence read back to them. are they all asking, is one asking, are several of them asking? you don't know, for instance, if they are arguing over one of the charges. there are two charges here. could have a split verdict. one, inc. i would point out. if they decided on the top charge, normally the way they would start looking at this, then if they are still going and decided on the top charge, it argues the top charge would be not guilty because if they found guilty on the top charge it would import the lower charge. if they look at it charge by charge. there are lawyers on this jury. they may have taken that kind of approach. that could be where it is. that's pure speculation. nobody knows. it could come down at any time. >> mike: we'll see if we get a verdict today. thank you so much. >> shannon: tensions on the rise between china and taiwan. beijing is set to begin a new

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>> shannon: a massive earthquake hit northern california yesterday. check it out. rattling the shelves of a drugstore. it measured magnitude 7.0. epicenter was north of san francisco. the quake triggered tsunami warnings. those have been canceled. no reports of any injuries.

>> mike: members of the house national security subcommittee sit for a closed door classified briefing on ufo sightings and the f.b.i. investigates drone sightings in new jersey. lucas tomlinson is live on capitol hill. good morning, lucas. >> good morning, mike. that classified briefing here on capitol hill led by pentagon officials is underway at the classified conference room behind me. many republicans want to know why the need for secrecy to discuss this topic especially with many people concerned in the public. we spoke to some of those congressmen earlier. >> why is secrecy if it's no big deal and there is nothing there? why hide it from the american people? because i'm not a mathematician. that doesn't add up. >> you will see a lot more transparency. the pentagon is going to be very -- they will be very nervous about trump and they should be. because they haven't passed an

audit. >> this classified briefing is taking on more urgency after the f.b.i. is investigating drone flights across central new jersey and asking the public for help. they've taken place near a research military manufacturing city and the golf club of donald trump is bedminster. want the public's help. phil murphy says there is no known threat to the public at this time. a response from the pentagon. >> it is important to underscore that to date the department has discovered no verifiable evidence of extraterrestrial x, activity or technology. none of the cases have pointed to advanced capability or break through technologies, either. >> classified briefing concludes we hope to learn more about what happened in it. we talked to congressman before he walked in there and says one

of the reasons he didn't want to show up if he learns something knew or already knows he is not supposed to talk about it. >> mike: if these are not little green aliens who do lawmakers think is responsible for these drones? >> mike, just before he walked in, congressman from tennessee said this could be the work of the u.s. military testing new technology but congressman seemed to have another take. he thinks if the chinese aren't directly responsible perhaps they are recruiting hobbyists to see how the f.b.i. and military responds. still a big mystery but we'll stay on it. >> mike: lucas tomlinson live on the hill. thank you very much. the detroit lyons with a thrilling victory over the green bay packers thanks to the last-second field goal. >> ballgame.

>> the game winner was called up. detroit choosing to go for it on fourth down to run down the clock and gain yard acknowledge. they won 34, 31. hold the nfl's best record at 12-one. >> shannon: we remain on verdict watch in the daniel penny trial. the evidence is jury is asking to take a second look at. what it actually means. plus: . a strong november jobs report. what it means for the fed heading into its december meeting. life, diabetes, there's no slowing down.

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>> mike: look at this. a dash cam captures a wild scene outside of harrisburg, pennsylvania. uber driver traveling along the highway when a lumber truck overturned on a bridge. the accident sent its load of two by 4s plunging to the road down below. fortunately officials say no injuries were reported. >> shannon: taiwan on edge bracing for another potential round of chinese war games around the island. president-elect trump picks former senator david perdue for u.s. ambassador to china. trump said this. he will be instrumental in implementing my strategy to maintain peace in the region an productive working relationship with china's leaders. joining us is the former chairman of the house china committee, mike gallagher, head of defense at an organization. let's talk about this. we're here at the reagan library and put out defense forum survey

how people feel about this. when americans say what is the greatest threat to america they say china. >> they are smarter than many of their elected leaders. i say that as a former elected official. the fundamental problem in the world today is xi does not fear us. thus he continues to ratchet up the pressure on taiwan. do brazen things like compromising our telecome infrastructure. he believes his path for immortality is taking taiwan. we must convince him the opposite. the easiest way for his regime to join the ash heap of history if he attempts something that stupid. we need to surge hard power to the pacific. the same survey you find robust, 89% of republicans and 70% support increased military spending. president trump needs to rebuild the military like president reagan did. we need to demonstrate the technical capability to take

down the great firewall. what xi fears more than anything else is his own people. they need to restore a culture that's ruthlessly focused on war fighting excellence and lethal. we need to put the pentagon on war footing and secretary of defense needs to fire anybody not willing to do that. >> shannon: how are those relationships different and what do you think a trump 2.0 second administration with managing xi. >> there was an underappreciated story in the first two years of the biden administration. they continued trump's more hawkish things on china. midway through they shifted and went full on engagement. every major cabinet official went to china. the goal was not to increase the temperature or provoke china prior to an election. as a result as we've seen for over two decades now we have a more aggressive china.

a paradox when you deal with a marxist regime. the more you try to accommodate them the more aggressive they become. trump will have a tougher stance on china. his picks are tough, experienced leaders with a clear-eyed view of the chinese communist party. i think we get a restoration of a tougher position on china. our diplomacy if not packed by force is meaningless. >> shannon: we have a lot of provocation from china in a number of ways. they're getting ready to do war games is something they do regularly. taiwan's president says it is better to open your hands than clench your fists. no how many drills and ships and aircrafts they dispatch to intimidate countries china will not win the respect from any country and we talk about this reagan national defense survey. a lot of support for taiwan, should it be attacked by china and the ways that americans think that the u.s. should

respond. we should give them more weapons and build up our forces in that region. >> one of the more striking findings of the poll. democrats and republicans both agree we need a robust support of taiwan. we need to help taiwan defend itself and possibly defend taiwan if china makes a move. when i last met with the president of taiwan he used a basketball analogy to describe the competition with china. one-on-one game china can beat us. but if the u.s. has a team against china to include our regional allies no way china can beat us. if we lead, if we get out of the cycle of self-loathing and self-doubt and recover the confidence necessary to act as the leader of the free world, i think we can deter china from invading taiwan. we can wage peace with the same creativity that we tend to wage war. >> shannon: peace through

strength as reagan said. there is an warning about phones and companies compromised by china. the affected companies are responding right now. we don't believe any fully removed the chinese actors from their network. the risk of ongoing compromises in communications. they talk about getting into u.s. call records, listening to live conversations. i'm not sure people have heard the story or understand how widespread it may be. >> troubling. everybody at a personal and business level should be using end-to-end encryption and whatsapp, not standard text. at a broader level a piece of a bigger puzzle. f.b.i. director testified before my committee a few months ago that chinese compromised our critical infrastructure and water utilities. imagine the chaos that could cause if we got in a war with china by compromising america's

access to clean water. ultimately this comes down. deterrence comes down. no deterrence in cyber whether xi fears us. he keeps doing it. i showed my daughters charlie brown's thanksgiving last week. lucy and charlie brown with the football. we keep engaging with china going back after the hack, barack obama invited xi to the white house and signed some phone owe cooperative agreement on cybersecurity and xi immediately violated. the tempo has persisted. it is restoring deterrence. xi should fear america, which he does not right now. >> shannon: we'll have a lot of discussions at the reagan library over the weekend. good to see you always. thanks for dropping in. mike. >> mike: after two years and nearly 150 shows taylor swift's eras tour is coming to an end in sunday in vancouver. lawrence has more from our new

york newsroom. >> taylor swift kicked off her tour back in arizona in march of 2023. since then she has played in 50 cities around the world making her the richest female musician in the world. she is the first tour ever to cross the billion dollar mark. but mike, that was at the end of last year. now as swift wraps up two years of shows on sunday, this tour is estimated to gross $2 billion. her fame and fortune are felt not only in music but across industries, sports, fashion, travel even books. the fever pitch might wind down after the weekend but until then swiftees like this are taking in all the action. >> seems like most stores are getting on the vibe. just the buzz around. i haven't seen anything like it in the time i've lived here. >> shannon: she is going to witness the final action. sparks fly whenever taylor is in

town. vancouver says the final three shows will have a big number of economic impact. average spending per swift concert tops $1300 per person. when you add it up she is an economic powerhouse topping $5 billion. again, that number was for last year. you add in another year, the economic potential of gdp to the economy of taylor swift could be $9 to 10 billion in the u.s. >> mike: amazing. she deserves a break, i think. >> shannon: she turns 35 next week. maybe some personal news will happen with her boyfriend. >> mike: we'll be watching. >> shannon: we're awaiting daniel penny's arrival at court today. jury deliberations are set to resume. could we get a verdict today? we'll bring it to you as it happens. a house panel released its

report on the mysterious illness called havana symptom. was something missed by the intel community or was there a cover-up? we have that report next.

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>> shannon: releasing the report of the havana symptom suffered by u.s. security officials. the panel finds quote, there is reliable evidence to suggest that some anomaly health incidents are the work of foreign adversaries. sadly, the intelligent community has actively attempted to impede our investigation. republican congressman rick crawford of arkansas, the chair of the house intel subcommittee. welcome to the show. i found that to be a surprising conclusion here, the suggestion the intel community not only didn't get it right but in some way hindered you from trying to figure it out. >> an ongoing problem. we see that throughout the government. when congressional committees request information oftentimes it's delayed and denied and we don't get it. when we do get it, it may be highly redacted for no reason. i serve on the house permanent select commity on intelligence.

we oversee the intelligence community. when we ask for documents this is not like the washington times asking for documents. this is the organization that oversees your organization. for that to be denied to us in itself is problematic. what we found when we ultimately were able to lift those redactions was more troubling. >> shannon: so this quote is what the intel community found prior. they said most intelligence community agencies have concluded that it is quote very unlikely that a foreign adversary is responsible for these reported incidents. you found differently. so why did you find differently and what do you think they got wrong? >> what we found differently as we dove into this issue, we found there had been overt attempts to drive a narrative to say, here is our statement, now go forth and support our

statement. it wasn't about asking those analysts to give us the ground truth. it was about here is what we want to say and we want you to help support that narrative. the evidence that we have supports that. it is troubling and we've seen this happen before. we've seen it happen with the russia hoax case and covid origins case. what we have in the i.c. is using analysts. we need ground truth. our decision makers rely on that information to make the best decisions they can to secure our country and to make our foreign service officers safe. and when we fail that, we fail them and we fail our country. >> shannon: so with this report in mind and what you said there about the intel community, what happens next? where do we go? what are the changes you think may be sparked in a new administration or as a result of this kind of report? >> well, you just touched on it there. we'll continue this investigation. that's point number one.

there is sufficient evidence to warrant the continuation of that investigation indefinitely. number two, my biggest concern is the folks who have been denied healthcare. there is a significant number of people in the i.c. and in the d.o.d. even white house personnel, state department personnel who in many cases are out of their own pocket paying for their healthcare for these incidents. then there are a number of folks who either have been dissuaded from reporting an incident or who have and have had career problems as a result of it because there has been sort of a widespread attitude in the i.c. that this is nothing to see here and if you say anything about it, then you are maybe a problem child or trying to get out of an assignment or something like that. all of these things can be true at the same time. folks might use this as a tool to, you know, redirect an assignment or whatever that's not the problem. these attacks are documented to

have existed and the i.c. didn't take it seriously. >> shannon: it seems there is now documentation and long been a conversation in washington, that there is tension between the intelligence community, lawmakers who have oversight of them. how does that get resolved? it is for the good of the american people to make sure everybody can work together. >> 100%. we want to trust our intelligence community. we need to trust our intelligence community. that's why it is so important that we restore this collaborative effort to work together. it is our responsibility on behalf of the american people to oversee these agencies. it is their responsibility to be honest and forthright with us. if they don't have an answer, tell me. we can live with that. what we can't live with is the deception that exists too often among agencies we have the responsibility to oversee. that's what we have to fix. i'm confident that the incoming administration will take that same perspective. >> shannon: congressman rick

crawford, thank you for your time today and just for digging on these important stories. we appreciate it, sir. >> you bet. >> mike: now to a fascinating new study on covid. researchers at northern western discovering the virus triggers an immune response that attacks cancer cells. jonathan serrie has more from atlanta. good morning. >> good morning. this is an amazing story. it all started during the pandemic when hospitals noticed a handful of their cancer patients actually showed some improvement when they became infected with the virus that causes covid. researchers at northwestern medicine determined that genetic material from the virus triggers the government of immune cells that can travel beyond blood vessels and infiltrate cancerous tumors where they release chemicals to activate the body's natural killer cells. >> currently no known orgism

that cancer cells can develop resistance to those. they are like the absolute top class marines. there is no way cancer cells can fight them. >> this could help patients whose cancers have become resistant to standard therapys. you don't want to infect cancer patients with covid because they are at higher risk for complications, researchers developed drugs to duplicate the cancer fighting effects without the illness. results published in the journal of clinical investigation the treatments were effective against multiple types of cancer in human tissue and animal models, lung cancer, breast cancer, colon cancer and melanoma. >> mike: fascinating study. thank you so much. >> shannon: u.s. marine veteran daniel penny arriving moments ago on day four of jury deliberations, he is facing up to 15 years in