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angle in moments. >> but first, this is a fox news alert. the jury in the daniel pennie trial has gone home for the day, and the manslaughter charge has been dismissed after the jury was deadlocked. but the case isn't over. fox news correspondent cb cotton is outside the court with all the details. cb, what can you tell us? >> hi, laura. well, daniel, penny's fate now hangs in limbo until at least monday, when jurors come back to deliberate on whether he's guilty of criminally negligent homicide, a charge that carries the potential of up to four years in prison. jurors came back twice today, deadlocked on the most serious charge second degree manslaughter. this evening after lots of debate between defense attorneys, prosecutors and the presiding judge. the judge ultimately made the decision to dismiss that charge. since when deliberations first began on tuesday, jurors have asked to review several pieces of evidence in this case, a lot of video evidence they've wanted
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to see. they also wanted to revisit parts of the medical examiner's testimony, and they asked the judge to review parts of the law. so jurors are clearly taking this job very, very seriously. we spoke with retired new york city criminal court judge george grasso, and he says this entire case is really a failure, not only to daniel penny, but also to jordan nealy, who had a documented history of mental health struggles, a lengthy criminal record and was battling schizophrenia. when all of this unfolded on the subway last year. let's roll that sound. if we have it. >> if that case was dealt with properly to begin with, he would have been incarcerated, treat him but incarcerate him. he would be alive today, and mr. penny wouldn't be in this situation. so the criminal justice system has a lot to account for. and i think to some extent, mr. penny is being scapegoated. >> there was some objection
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from the defense on whether jurors should be allowed to deliberate on this lesser charge. defense attorney thomas kenneth, putting in the record that he feels it's coercive at this point, trying to preserve all of his rights on appeal. but again, the big takeaway from today, laura, is that daniel penny's fate, the marine veteran charged in this case, his future, hangs in limbo at this hour. back to you. >> all right, cb thank you very much. joining me now, brian claypool and andrew stoltmann, both are criminal defense attorneys. brian, let's start with you. so the judge dismissed the manslaughter charge despite instructing the jury that it couldn't consider the other lesser negligent homicide charge without a conviction on that. more serious charge. so the criminally negligent homicide here or manslaughter, explain how this ended up happening, given what the judge had said
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earlier. >> yeah. hey, laura. >> great to be with you. >> i mean, look, this is this is really good news. >> bad news for daniel penny. >> what? this judge did, if you think about it, you've got some jurors we don't know how many. >> laura. it could just be one juror that was hung up. there might have been 11 jurors wanting to acquit daniel penny on on the manslaughter charge. and maybe just one juror that wanted to convict him. but the fact that there was a hung jury on the more serious charge is not great news for daniel penny, because now the judge is saying on monday they want the jury to hear the lesser charge, right? the negligent homicide is just being reckless. and that caused the death. if you've already got one or more jurors that are hung wanting to convict penny on the more serious charge, then rest assured when they deliberate on monday, they're going to want to convict him on the reckless, negligent homicide. so that's the bad news for daniel penny. the best he's likely to do is a hung jury. the good news is he's got some jurors in his camp that hung on the more
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serious charge those jurors are likely to stick with him on monday. so we're likely to see a hung jury by monday or tuesday on the lesser charge. >> now, jordan neely's uncle spoke today at the end of the deliberations. >> watch on behalf of the family, i want to apologize to all the people that was truly afraid for their lives on that train. jordan neely didn't have to die that day. daniel penny could have went to another cop. even he has the legal right to do so. >> andrew. i mean, that's emotional, but frankly, it's absurd. >> it's absolutely absurd. >> look, there's something the law called the assumption of risk. >> and when you act like an idiot, when you act like an imbecile, when you intimidate people, when you threaten people, you assume the risk that something is going to happen. laura, this criminal justice system has completely failed. this marine from alvin bragg bringing these charges in
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the first place. the lead prosecutor not agreeing to a plea deal with a slap on the wrist and now this judge who shouldn't have dismissed these manslaughter charges, rather, there should have been a mistrial in this case. and let's start this entire thing over again, because now i'm concerned that that, you know, the defendant in this case is going to be convicted on monday, and that's a miscarriage of justice. it's ridiculous. >> i completely agree with you because and again, let's remind the viewers what we're talking about here. so they dismiss these more serious charge. but now the lesser charge is criminally negligent homicide. now what does this involve? it involves causing someone's death by acting in a manner that was reckless, inattentive or careless in addition, if you've recklessly failed to act and as a result, someone dies, you could also be found to have committed criminal, criminally negligent homicide. brian, there almost seems to be a feeling you would you would intuit among some jurors that,
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okay, maybe we'll go with that one. that's not how the justice system is supposed to work here. >> yeah, absolutely. laura, that's what i meant earlier. it's like you've got you've got some jurors that are saying, hey, look, the penny. they believe penny consciously was in disregard of neely's life, knew the risk, still did. the chokehold, and therefore he should be found guilty of manslaughter. do you think those jurors now are going to do a 360? no. like you said, they're going to be like, okay, well, i'm going to get him on the lesser charge. but let me tell you, one thing, laura, where this judge messed up and where there's going to be a miss, there should have been a mistrial on this entire case. and penny's lawyers are going to have a great appeal issue. the judge should have asked that jury why they hung. because there's a legal justification defense for penny. that's a self-defense. and. and if this jury agreed that penny was entitled to self-defense, then he's off on both charges. if that jury hung on the justification issue, then the entire case should
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have been dismissed. that judge never asked. and that's that's that's that's an appealable, erroneous issue on the judge's part. >> andrew, do you agree with that? that's an excellent point, because then then everyone would know. whoa whoa whoa. this is what they actually this is that they couldn't decide. so how do you go to the lesser charge in that case? >> yeah, absolutely. it's just been a flawed process from the very, very beginning. lori, you remember this case. remember the kitty genovese case back in 1964 where someone was where someone was raped and murdered on the street of new york, 34 people walked past and there's an international uproar that nobody did anything. well, guess what? if he's found guilty in this case, we're going to have more instances like that because nobody is going to come to the assistance of somebody who's being harassed and hurt. >> exactly. this is a miscarriage of justice. i think any common sense view of these facts, to turn this man into a criminal and let all these criminals roam free in the city, that's all we need to see. brian. andrew, you're both great. thank you. all right.
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we're getting even more details about how easy the lead prosecutor, daphne warren, has been on actual criminals. yesterday we told you about the elderly man who fell to his death while being robbed at an atm. yoron. the prosecutor bragged about getting this lighter sentence for this aggrieved thug. but that wasn't a one off in the murder of army vet hassan correa, joran struck a plea deal with two of the four people involved in that fatal stabbing. joran claim that she couldn't prove one of them knew about the knife, and that the presence of another was not a determining factor in causing the fatal injuries. joining me now, madeline bream, sergeant correia's mom, madeline, tell us a little bit about your own experience briefly with daphne. daphne. joran, the prosecutor in the case and why people should look at this current case with a great degree of skepticism. >> hi laura, thank you so much
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for having me once again. yes, daphne, joran received this case, i think, in 2020 after she she was handed a strong trial ready murder case against all four of these individuals that are involved in hassan's murder. first degree gang assault, second degree murder. there were never any plea deals. there were never any considerations for reduction of charges. the trial, i mean, the case was strong. trial ready, murder case ready to go to trial as soon as she received that case, it immediately fell apart. and she dismissed completely dismissed murder and gang assault indictments against mary sanders and travis stuart, saying that she felt sorry for mary because mary has a sick mother and a child. well guess what? hassan has a mother and three small children who are now left destitute. mary received a one year time served. she dismissed those murder indictment against her
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and charged her with assault with a shoe. and then she used mary to testify against her brother christopher, using the same video. i mean, yeah, madeline, this all these facts bring it all back to you. >> yeah, it does it is so disturbing because it seems that you know, we'll send we'll send, you know, cases back to the jury to get a lesser offense in certain cases, but not in other cases that the facts are maybe not as convenient. it doesn't look good. it smells to high heaven. madeline. thank you very much. all right. washington has literally become a joke. my angle explains next. >> if you missed out, now's your chance to watch the fox nation patriot awards. join sean hannity and the whole fox family as they celebrate america's heroes with surprising moments you don't want to miss. sunday on fox news channel. the 2024 fox nation patriot awards are presented by these proud sponsors. >> you wish you were turkey. >> we wish you a whole ham. we
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kamala harris's approach would have been. she would have borrowed and printed money until the world decided to stop lending to the united states altogether. but as doge peels back the bureaucratic onion, americans are going to learn a lot about what a joke washington has become. do you know that most federal workers have never returned to the office post covid? now, back at the start of covid, the angle predicted that the same spoiled stay at home bureaucrats that we had been chronicling and discussing at the time for months and months that they would not return voluntarily to the office because sending them home in the first place was a bad precedent. many federal employees haven't returned to work full time since the pandemic began. in-person work is expected for people like store clerks, janitors, airport personnel, but the average federal worker apparently
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believes staying home is their right if they haven't been into the office for two years, how essential can they really be? yeah, not essential at all. now that was three years ago. and where do things stand now? >> how many federal employees are actually working in the office by one estimate, it may be about 1%. if you don't count the security personnel that are covering these buildings that is absurd. >> one of the first things that i think you'll see is a demand from the new administration and from all of us in congress, that federal workers were returned to their desks and get back to the work that they're supposed to be doing. i think that is common sense. >> yes, yes, yes, it is a complete farce. none of you would get away with this. why should the federal workers, they've got to come back to the office, or they just need to be fired. and every republican on capitol hill, they should have been making a huge issue of this all along. how insulting this has been to the taxpayers.
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now, many of these workers of course, are not even at home. they're off to parts unknown, living their dream lives. or, as this viral photo suggests, just chilling in a bubble bath. all right, every republican on the hill should be speaking out, demanding that this type of madness end. now, if we can't agree on something like this, then how the heck are we going to agree on more complicated spending cuts? the type that doge wants to carry out now, even non maga. iowa senator joni ernst, who's certainly no staunch, you know, right wing bomb thrower, says the people still at home, the federal workforce they got to get back legislation is going to be needed. it should already be written. 53 gop senators will surely support this. thus, it will pass unless it's filibustered by democrats. good. i dare democrats to filibuster this type of
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legislation. and over the house. well, we know there's growing opposition to musk's work on doge. >> well, it's illegal. >> you know, they haven't asked to meet with me, but the impoundment of funds that have been appropriated by the congress is unconstitutional. >> and illegal. >> there is no such department of government efficiency. it's made up. so good luck to them. >> so much for the hope that there would be this bipartisan outpouring of support for doge. you know, there are a few people here and there, but hakeem jeffries, the house minority leader, responded to this whole the doge excitement essentially feigning ignorance, then trying to claim that this idea was his all along. >> it's unclear to me what exactly the objective is related to this so-called doge initiative. from our perspective, we want a federal
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government that is effective and efficient and equitable, and to the extent the other side of the aisle shares that objective, which is what is right for the american people, then we'll see if there's common ground that's possible. >> okay. okay. okay. first of all, you heard the word equitable. look out for that. and yeah, when all of us think of the word efficiency, we think about the house democrats. not all right. the fact is, members of both parties, though, we've got to be fair here on the angle they're culpable here with majorities voting for budgets that over the years have funded. things like this list could go on and on. efforts to boost egyptian tourism because that's your priority training for dhs employees to be their authentic and best selves. and i love this. i just found this today. $4 million for an alaska king crab enhancement project,
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5 million for the louisiana sugarcane sugar cane research. that's courtesy of bill cassidy. thank you. you know, we could be here again all day long doing this list after list after list. and by the way, speaking of lists, the same waste and efficiency analysis must be applied to the pentagon as well. now it's almost, i think $900 billion budget. it also needs major trimming. after all it can't pass an audit for a reason because there is a huge amount of fat to be cut there. and the defense department is where vivek and ellen are going to find the most resistance, i believe, among the president's own party. let's face it, they've never met a pentagon budget. they didn't like. this must change it is a 1984. it's not 2004. this is 2024, and we're $35 trillion in debt. our interest on that debt is now
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over $1 trillion dollars annually. and that will eventually kill us financially. but in the end, when you look at the full scope of what needs to be dealt with, there's not a lot of point in talking about reform to the big entitlement programs, which is a big share of the budget medicare, medicaid, social security, which is a flashpoint in american politics, the toughest thing of all, until we can get substantial agreement on the basics and on those basic issues, some of that, some of them we've just discussed, we got to smoke people out here. we have to get them all on the record. if you're not with the president's agenda here, you're going to be primaried as a republican. just understand that now. then we can make real progress among both the republicans and the democrats. and that's the angle. joining me now is kentucky senator rand paul. senator, it is great to have you back on the angle. it's been a while now. i know
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you've been constantly focused on this and you've been with vivek. this week. what ideas have you given him? because he's looking to you for ideas other than of course, as we were saying, getting the federal workers back in the office, one of my favorite examples of federal workers not showing up is a few years ago, we had an assistant to the head of the epa, and he told his boss that he also worked for the cia, and so he would be gone for six months at a time. >> finally, we had a shutdown and someone called called the cia and said, hey, mr. smith, we understand works for you, but we haven't seen him in six months. and they said who? they never heard of the guy. the guy completely made up a story about working for the cia. and for nearly a decade, millions of dollars was paid to this ma, and he just wouldn't show up. and i always imagine him like, on his chaise lounge, drinking a beer, saying, yes, i'm on a secret mission in the middle east now, can't talk. you know? but that kind of stuff runs rampant throughout government.
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so you can save money. now people say, oh, you can't balance the budget by making people go back to work. you certainly can start. when elon musk told the people at twitter they would have to go back to work, a third of them quit. they're not used to work when elon musk told him that when you come back to work, be prepared to do overtime. another third quit. so you can get rid of a lot of people, saves a lot of money. but ultimately there are a lot of rules that protect federal workers, so you need to outsource things. i had it out with the postmaster general the other day. they lost 6.5 billion two years ago. last year they lost 9.5 billion. the only way you can have better rules about making them work and show up is you have to outsource it. you can't keep hiring more government employees. you have to make them non-governmental employee. >> and senator, how difficult is that process? because everybody knows that elon musk, vivek ramaswamy are both brilliant individuals. they're extremely successful. obviously, elon is the richest in the world, but washington is its own beast. so as smart as
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as they are, what hurdles will they have to clear in order to get some of this stuff done? because a lot of it will rest with you in congress, right? >> one of the big things elon did with spacex to get things cheaper was to go away from cost plus contracts to competitive contracts. i think that can be done by the executive branch. i think they can lay off people. they can downsize and they can go to competitive contracts. is that going to balance the budget? not alone. but i'm for getting rid of all this waste. but i am actually one who says that when the government, the federal government and the state government split welfare and medicaid and food stamps, the states need to be responsible for more of that, because the federal reserve and our debt is financing the federal portion, the states will have to be more fiscally responsible because they either have to raise taxes for benefits, or they have to be more conservative with who they apply to. so i'm for looking at the entitlements, the waste, everything, because
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it's such an enormous problem that if you put military off the table and you put entitlements off the table, all you have left is 16% of the budget. and if you eliminate that, you don't get anywhere close to balancing the budget ever. so while i'm for getting rid of the waste, i'm for looking at every bit of spending. >> yeah. and senator, very quickly the pentagon, which i mentioned in the angle, i mean, there is so much waste and so much duplicative initiatives inside the defense department. they fail the audits year after year. you've been on top of this. but republicans, frankly, have been rubber stamping the pentagon budget for decades. that has to change, right? >> and it's worse than that, laura, right now, the first budget reconciliation that the republicans are proposing is to bust the pentagon caps. we have military caps on spending that are still going upwards. the very first budget reconciliation that all the old, you know, guard in the senate, you know, who they are.
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they're going to bust the military caps with their first budget reconciliation. so realize we think we've changed things and we're going to get more of the same as the first budget that that's exactly what i'm talking about. >> senator, you and i have been going around and around on this for i don't know how many years you and i have been talking about this, but we'll see what musk and vivek can do to move those boulders up the hill. but it's going to be tough, especially in the pentagon sid. senator, thank you for coming on. it's great to see you as always. and coming up, biden's excuse for why he pardoned hunter and who could get the next one? father, you can hide among us. >> i have to go with them. god is always by your side everywhere. oh, no. no, i can't die. please don't let me die. please, sir. i would like to take the place of this man.
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of that, the president changing his mind and issuing certainly led to the president changing his mind and issuing this pardon. he laid out how he wrestled with this decision. he wrestled with it. he thought about it. he wrestled with it. he wrestled with it. and made this decision. that's what i can tell the american people. >> well, she's an impossible situation. look, no circumstances though, changed. biden lied. she ended up lying. they all lied and when it comes to those fearful of being targeted by trump, president is reviewing the pardons and commutations and preemptive pardons on the table. >> i'm just not going to i'm not going to get into get ahead of the president. certainly the president is looking at, you know, reviewing next steps, and there will be more to come. >> next steps, more to come. joining us now, matt towery, political analyst and pollster, ned ryan, founder and ceo of the american majority. all
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right, let's zip through this. ned, let's start with you, who is definitely going to be on this pardon list? i want your top three. and then we're going to go to tori about this. >> well, i think you've obviously got to put fauci up there. i think that they want to give him a pardon beyond beyond that, i think you probably got to start looking at some of those people who are playing games in the intel community. doj, fbi, i'd say some of the actors like comey, clapper, brennan, all those people might want to go out and get a pardon just to be safe, because one of the things that has to be done, laura, is, you know, they talk about being targeted about being trump, being on a revenge tour. it's not. it's about restoring law and order. and for that to happen, there have to be consequences. so i think some of these people might want to start thinking really hard about preemptively getting that pardon from from biden and matt. >> look, what do they have to lose right at this point? what else is liz cheney going to do?
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is she going to fill up stadiums? is she going to do big rallies? is she going to say to the next democrat nominee in 2028, guys, please take me along because i was so effective in, in in wisconsin and michigan last time around. so she's got to get a pardon for, i don't know what for bad political choices. >> i don't know who gets pardons. i guess maybe the president's brother or cousin comes to mind very quickly. but you know, the truth is it's rather silly that we were talking about this. i mean, the trump rhetoric is not the rhetoric that's being interpreted by the democrats or by the media. there are no threats. trump has basically said he's not worried about revenge. he's worried about being successful. and success will be the greatest revenge of all. i don't really believe that there's a justification for all these pardons that that might come forward, and if they do, it's just going to erode confidence that the american people more and more in the justice system. we just did a poll. 62% of americans believe
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there are two tiers of justice in this country right now. that is a massive number of people who believe there simply isn't a fair justice system. >> and ned, this has to be changed. we can't have most of america thinking that corruption runs rampant in our intel agencies and in our doj. and i want to say there are good people in both places. we know that there are civil servants who are dedicated, but we can't have this. so something has to be done. and it's not all misinformation or disinformation that's caused this. >> correct? i mean, one of our basic founding principles, laura, was that the law is king and all stand equal before the law. doesn't matter what your last name is, doesn't matter what your position is. you know, any of these connections that you might have all stand equal before the law. and when you talk about a two tier system and a bifurcated legal system, everyone has to stand equal before the law. there have to be consequences for
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every bad actor, regardless of last name, regardless of position of power. and i do think actually, laura, i disagree a little bit on the idea that there there shouldn't be some consequences. there have been very bad actors inside the doj and the fbi, and this is why i sincerely hope that kash patel becomes the next fbi director, because there do have to be consequences so that there is not this bad behavior in the future. because, laura, that there were four fisa warrants secured off a fake dossier. you continue to see this lawfare against trump coming out of the doj. and i would argue other entities inside our government for us to stop this happening, people actually have to bear consequences or else next time i think it's even worse. >> well, i say the same thing about covid. i mean, if there are no consequences, then why are we here? what are you really reforming? matt and ned? both of you. as always, thanks so much. and mexican drug cartels taking drastic steps to keep flooding america with fentanyl. where are they
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>> fentanyl continues to flood into the united states and we know it is deadly, but more efforts are being made, even
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among the biden administration, to try to stop it somewhat successful. well, that's an open question, but the cartels know a new sheriff will be in town, and now they're getting very creative. >> but, you know, the business and i know the chemistry. >> i'm thinking maybe you and i could partner up. >> yeah, well, fact is, facts are a little bit like fiction these days because the sinaloa cartel is reportedly recruiting chemistry students now who don't have much money. a lot of them are very poor. to cook fentanyl in mexico instead of importing the raw materials from china. now, one of these students told the new york times recently that if they can succeed in creating these chemical compounds, it would make them the kings of mexico. joining me now is derek maltz, former special special agent with the dea. derek, another
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student, told the times that chemists are needed to help make the drug stronger and to get more people hooked. now, what do we know about these recruitment tactics? are they successful and how could this affect the flow into the united states and the toxicity of this fentanyl? >> so, laura, thank you for having me again. >> and you and i have been talking about this for years. so the cartels are a global enterprise. they have customers all over the world for their products. of course, they're going to aggressively recruit, you know, vulnerable kids. they're, you know, taking advantage of weak people on a daily basis with the cartels, you know, smuggling all the people in. but the reality is, is there's a demand. so the demand requires the expertise for manufacturing. and some young, aggressive chemistry major in mexico. it's actually makes sense that why they would want to work for this multibillion dollar enterprise, because they're looking to make a living. they're looking to
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have a career. and in mexico, it's the fifth largest. according to the study employer in mexico. so my advice is the timing is really bad. if you're thinking about joining the cartels, with the america first train coming full speed ahead next month, that's not going to end in a good result. laura. >> now mexico just yesterday announced the biggest seizure of fentanyl in its history. and the question even cbs is raising. well, you know, this is the timing may not be a coincidence. they obviously want to send a message, i think i don't know if to the cartels as much as to the incoming trump administration that they are serious about taking on the cartels. do you expect mexico itself to really step up the efforts against the cartels that are so powerful inside the country? laura, i do believe with president trump leading the pack, they're going to have
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no choice because president trump has made it clear that the american population, the kids in our country are our future generation, are number one. >> so if they're not willing to step up, then the president's going to be more aggressive than they can imagine, in my opinion. but on the other side, look, going back to that other question, the cartels have worked with the chinese for so many years. laura, look at the methamphetamine that's coming into the country. now. we're seizing tons of methamphetamine. they're bombing our country. but this seizure in mexico that they reported as the largest ever, like two tons of fentanyl pills, fake pills, deadly pills. what i look at is i think, what the hell? look at the production capabilities they have in mexico, right now. >> so yes, they need more chemists. >> but laura, one thing i want to say is they're going to probably expand routes into europe, into asia, because there's going to be a demand around the world for these synthetic drugs. it's been a game changer. and their business, their business
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entrepreneurs. >> yeah. well, well, we have a lot of leverage. it's called trade and tariffs. and trump is serious about that derek. those pill machines are almost all made in china. you can get them on the internet for like $10,000. it is deadly. and our young people especially are being killed every day from this deadly drug derek thank you. disney's new snow white could be headed for a less than happy ending. and obama just wants us all to get along. friday follies with raymond arroyo is next. >> it's a miracle he will have enemies. >> this kingdom nobody is going to take it from us. i worship only the lord god. >> he's not a prophet, just an ordinary man who bleeds like everyone else. >> you can't do everything on your own. >> i am never alone. >> what did you see? everythin.
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>> you'll remember the first version of this thing had snow white flanked by a dei commune. i mean, it looked more like snow white and the woke pirates for harris. look at him for a moment. i thought snow had wandered into the jazz district in seattle. >> remember that group going back after blowback? >> i know, i know, i'm doing the big callback, but after after the audience reacted negatively to this, disney created cgi dwarves. laura. but some online have pointed out that they look like robert de niro at a renaissance faire. look at the faces of these things. >> that is, they were pretty terrible. >> okay, that looks like wooden. they look wooden to me. don't they look wooden? totally ridiculous. >> no, no, they're actual cgi characters. they're not. they're scary. >> whatever they are, they're raymond. raymond, look, the real problem is that this actress playing snow white, who made some, i guess, inflammatory political statements. oh, how predictable. >> yeah, well, this is why people are calling for a
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boycott after trump won rachel zegler, the actress posted a screed where she bemoaned another four years of hatred and she hoped, quote, trump and his supporters never know peace. she swiftly apologized for the comment, probably at the behest of the mouse. you can imagine why people are upset and why they want to boycott this thing, but you know the biggest problem, laura, to my mind. yeah, the political stuff is terrible, but i just saw the poster the other day, gal gadot, beautiful gal gadot, who played wonder woman. she's the evil queen here. when the evil queen is the fairest of them all. you got trouble in casting? yeah. gal gadot never good. >> it's gal gadot, not gal gadot, gal gadot, gal gadot. >> say it your way, brigitte bardot, potato, potato, bardot. >> okay. >> okay. >> interestingly, though, some performers, unlike rachel zegler, some of these performers, even dedicated liberals, are starting to read
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the room. >> comedian sarah silverman told the minnesota star tribune why she didn't campaign for kamala harris this time out. she said, my feeling was no one wanted to hear from celebrities right now. bingo. laura. i mean, yeah, well she's smart. 75% of americans after the election. >> yeah, she'll make more money. >> i mean, 75% of americans said they didn't want to hear from celebrities about politics. they were right. >> well, someone might have written a book one day called shut up and sing. >> george clooney even wants obama to come help him because he's embarrassed for the way he was trotted out. >> he was fuming that he was seduced. georgie is. yeah. and he just was. yeah. well, he. so you know what clooney i say to clooney, you're supposedly this, you know, cool. ocean's 1112, 13, 105, right? so you're this cool guy, and now you're trying to blame obama. i mean, he had free will. he could have
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said, no, i didn't want to do this. so he's trying to get out of, you know, the connection with biden or sorry, harris at this point. that's just not that's not believable either. i'm i'm sticking up for barack obama here. it's not his fault. >> well, obama is trying to not bring the country together, laura. he's pitching pluralism. listen to this. i've been spending a lot of time thinking about how we rebuild a conversation where folks are able to disagree without hating each other. >> pluralism is a fancy word for saying, how do we build a bunch of different entry points for people to be in conversations with each other? >> entry points? i don't even know what he's talking about. >> if anybody needs a course in pluralism or civility, it might be barack and michelle obama who were saying this a few weeks ago about a guy named trump. >> all that stuff does not mean
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that his presidency would not be dangerous. i'm a little angry that we are indifferent to his erratic behavior. >> his obvious mental decline, his history as a convicted felon, a known a known slumlord, a predator. >> oh, i'm so glad we played this. i'm so glad you reminded everyone. yeah, well, and last night, he started his big pluralism speech at his foundation. >> this way. listen closely. >> when i mentioned to a few friends that our foundation would be hosting a forum on democracy and pluralism, i got more than a few groans and eye rolls as far as they were concerned. the election proved that democracy is pretty far down on people's priority list. >> oh no. >> can you believe that, laura?
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that was his opener. the most divisive person in american politics. arguably in the last 50 years. barack obama. and if you want to know why trump was elected, that's why he was elected. because of barack obama. >> it is the restorative to that attitude, which is the way politics works. snobby attitud. and he was wrong. he should just come out and say, you know, i misread the room. i misread the country, okay? and i wish president trump the best if he's mr. magnanimous, if he's mr. pluralism, that's what he should have said. but he doesn't have grace in that moment. he should. he should know better. but raymond always great to see you. all right. that's it for us tonight. make sure to follow me on social media. that means twitter. that means instagram. you know the drill. and remember, it is america now and forever. jesse watters takes it from here. >> hello, everybody. i'm jesse watters, along

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