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there it is. >> happy wednesday everyone. i am. i'm excited to. >> i'm tom shillue in for greg gutfeld on this very special edition of gutfeld. >> he has an excuse. >> let's kick things off with a couple of jokes. the famous rockefeller center christmas tree has been lit, and holiday shoppers are filling up fifth avenue. but there are other signs the christmas spirit is alive and well in new york city. for instance, instead of chalk, the police are outlining bodies with festive garlands. disgraced former congressman anthony weiner is considering a run for new york city council. yeah, that means citizens over 18th may once again get to vote for him, and those under 18 might get this in their dms.

>> no. >> caitlin clark acknowledged her white privilege in time magazine. hopefully, this move will lead to more african americans having the opportunity to play pro basketball. the unabomber's brother expressed concerns that alleged assassin luigi mangione may have been influenced by ted kaczynski. he also expressed concerns that people will always refer to him as the unabomber's brother. cher has reportedly fled her malibu home as wildfires raged nearby. it's a smart move since plastic has a low melting point. a british member of parliament has argued against a proposed law banning marriage between first cousins. one american observer asked why stop there? okay, now to my searing monologue. doomscrolling is a fairly new

word, and it is appearing a lot in the news lately, mostly in articles about how to avoid it. like this one. wait a minute. isn't rotting our brains a bit much? even articles about doomscrolling are filled with doom. this is why i try to approach the news of the day in the spirit of my mentor, greg gutfeld. here was his reaction to the daniel pennie verdict on monday. hooray for daniel pennie and those heroes who risk everything to help others, and a more than deserved f-you to alvin bragg. >> that's how you do it, greg. >> and kudos on only swearing once. greg. unlike dana perino. this is the way greg does it. you look for the good in the news, but you don't ignore the bad stuff. just don't get bogged down. call out the bs and move on. this week started with great news on two fronts daniel penny's acquittal and the capture of the infamous suspected seo assassin. the

opening of a tale of two cities reads. it was the best of times. it was the worst of times. i quote from the dickens classic because sometimes it feels we're living in a tale of two narratives. after the news broke on both those big stories, the inevitable social media opinions followed suit. on the daniel penny acquittal, new york city council member tiffany caban said this jordan neeley deserved better than the violence of being denied access to stable housing and health care and then dehumanized for it. but then astute readers gave her a bit of a fact check via x's community notes feature. they pointed out how neeley got a plea deal after punching a 67 year old woman in 2021, and actually did get free access to housing and health care. but he bolted from the facility after just 13 days. and like clockwork, tiffany locked down her x account so only her followers can see her posts. too bad for us. then, after the made for social media outburst from luigi mangione while in police custody, we have a lot of armchair marxists

celebrating the murder of a ceo as kind of payback for capitalism. meanwhile, you've got people hawking merchandise glorifying an accused killer. and then there's the always rational journalist taylor lorenz on piers morgan's show. >> why would you be in such a celebratory mood about the execution of another human being? >> aren't you supposed to be on the caring, sharing left where you know you believe in the sanctity of life? >> i do believe in the sanctity of life, and i think that's why i felt, along with so many other americans, joy. >> unfortunately, you know, because. joy. like, seriously? i mean, joy, the man's execution. maybe not joy, but certainly not. no, certainly not empathy. >> no, definitely not empathy, but something with path in it. sociopath. psychopath? pathetic? maybe. but it seems that it's not difficult to find people sympathetic to the idea

of executing ceos, right? liz warren. >> look, we'll say it over and over. violence is never the answer. this guy gets a trial who's allegedly killed the ceo of unitedhealth. but you can only push people so far. and then they start to take matters into their own hands. >> so is violence bad or not? i guess it all depends on who's getting hurt. i don't know where the line is for liz, but i'm assuming it stops before you get to politician. and then you've got talking heads on cnn who lamented the suspect's newfound fame, and a host who couldn't resist asking the graphics guy to, quote, take down the banner so they could see luigi's abs. >> the man accused of killing unitedhealth care's ceo going viral. >> images of luigi mangione seem to captivate the attention of online masses. >> so much of the clips we were watching at the top of this segment are driven by the fact that this is this is an attractive. >> we got to drop the banner to show why.

>> the guy he did drop the banner. when you see the reactions to these two very different events, it can give one pause. we have people calling for vigilante violence after the penny verdict, and we're seeing an assassin celebrated on social media. one might think, how can i possibly be sharing the planet with these people? but the evidence is everywhere that most people see through this foolishness, and that is a reason to celebrate. people like taylor lorenz are outliers, just like the trolls who are talking about how cute this newly famous murderer is. those same people would be calling out his toxic masculinity the second he criticized obamacare. you can look at these posts online and think the modern world has absolutely lost its mind. but we have to remember this has happened before. we do romanticize killers. it happened with the menendez brothers, the boston bombers. even john dillinger had a fan club back in the 1930s. people are captivated, titillated by murder. but in the end, most of us can tell the difference between a hero and a villain.

yes. here he is. >> let's welcome tonight's guest. >> she spent more time on the sidelines than colin kaepernick, host of the michele tafoya podcast, michele tafoya. progressives avoid him like he's a student. low payment comedian lou perez. this is the first time she can't fit in kids clothes. new york times bestselling author and fox news contributor kat timpf. he's far too tall for mistletoe. new york times best selling author, comedian and former nwa world champion tyrus. that's it. okay, michelle, what do you think? are you at all surprised that there are people out there who are celebrating this guy? >> i am, i just am. he killed someone. we see it on video, right? and so this is bizarre. you know, there were people comparing and contrasting

daniel penny and this dude. yeah. and here's the comparison. they're both 26 years old. that's that's it. yeah. after that there's no comparison. i find it really bizarre when people kind of romanticize these people. there's got there's got to be a term for that. is there some sort of pathology that describes why people do this? i don't get it. but as you pointed out, the good news. so daniel penny is unanimously, you know, he's acquitted. and all the blm people came out and said all the awful things they said, which was amazing to me. but unlike 2020, in my hometown of minneapolis, we did not see the big protests and the demonstrations that i think that blm really wanted. so i do get the sense maybe that we're starting to turn that the fever on that has broken. well, yeah. >> to be fair, blm ran out of black people. >> oh they did. >> did you not see the march?

it was just like white liberals and one brother looking for the subway. >> and what do you think? do you think it is this case or do you think it's just that the air has run out of the, the blm movement? >> you can only down our backs so long and tell us the rain. eventually we're going to go. that's not rain. americans just got tired of it. you can't group us anymore. and the one thing this the one thing, the unintentional thing of this administration is, is we all felt the hurt together. we all felt the electric bills. we all felt the missed justice. we all said, like, wait, they're charging him for a crime that doesn't exist yet? that resonated with everyone, but nothing's ever going to stop the keyboard cowboys. it's so easy to be like, yeah, i got killed because they're not affected by it. it sounds cool. they get likes, they get attention. but when you if they were actually going to walk up to say to somebody's face like, oh yeah, i'm glad he got shot if you said that and there's consequences. so on these online counts, there's nothing new. they all talk tough on

their little keyboards and say, oh, i'm glad he got, but show me what was tough about him. he shot this dude in the back. and i'm sorry. there's never been a time in history where anybody said shooting a guy in the back is brave. it's literally the most cowardly thing you do. he didn't turn him around and face him and all this other things that they try to make this guy out to be. he shot somebody in the back in cold blood, period. there's nothing about him that's honorable, but because he gets on because he's good and we see this all the time. if somebody's good looking, especially, you know how lonely people are. if they're willing to want to go on a date or fantasize against a guy who would shoot you in the back, that says more about them than it does anybody else. the problem is, is we should stop echoing it. we should literally, when those people do that stuff, you should just block them and move on because their voice does not matter. they're not in the game. >> yeah. lou perez, did you i want to make, you know, kind of put a line between the people who are talking about him being good looking and then the people who are justifying his actions, they're looking

they're saying like the way liz warren, i'm surprised that somebody i mean, someone who's such a prominent figure that she comes out and says, you can only push people so far. and then she says, we're not, you know, we're not advocating violence. but it kind of sounds like she's approaching that line, right? yeah. it's a really cynical move, because in a in a way, it's like, is she trying to kind of protect herself? >> because when you really get, you know, dig into the details about, you know, the health care system. look, incentives are there due to regulations, government regulations and policies and rule makers. so if somebody were going to take the assassin, you know, way, i mean, there's going to be insane amount of bloodshed because you have a whole industry that's, you know, that that has a lot of powerful people behind it. yeah, it is really it is gross. i hate to see it. and you're right. i mean, when it comes down to, like, the stuff you can get away with if you're good looking, right? in the 80s, john hinckley jr tried to assassinate ronald reagan to get jodie foster. and it didn't

work because he's not good looking. and jodie foster is gay, you know. so he's had a lot of hurdles didn't he. yeah a lot he had he had to get over a lot. and i'm really upset too because i think, you know, this guy has a manifesto, right. and it just shows like the state of like publishing that we're in where it's so hard to get people to read your books that you will go to insane lengths. and just so everyone knows, i have a manifesto. yeah, exactly. it's called that joke isn't funny anymore. don't push me too far. yes. >> okay. cat on the daniel penny thing. i mean, you're seeing a lot of people. i only had one reaction there, but there, there are people out there. it wasn't just the blm people standing on the steps of the courthouse. there are people out there now. and if you listen to talk radio, left wing talk radio, it's not all left wingers, but there are people that are trying to take the daniel pennie thing and turn it into what was ferguson, you know, or what was, you know, their heyday seems to be

over. >> so what i think is that it to me, it seems impossible that anybody would actually believe that daniel penny was a racist man out for blood. i mean, it doesn't make any sense. i feel like if you know the facts of the of what happened, then you could have no other opinion other than the fact that this man does not belong in prison. right? the fact that if you were on that subway car, you would have also been afraid. the fact that it wasn't just white people helping him restrain the guy, all the things that all of us here know. right. but i think that perhaps these people heard something about it and they had their worldview already set, and they're like, okay, well, i think it must be this, because that's what i've already decided. things are, and they don't want to. it's the sunken cost fallacy. they don't want to go back on it, because i don't know how anyone could possibly think that at this point. i really don't know how anybody could be honest and know all the facts and possibly think that at this point, to

me, i honestly just don't even really believe it. maybe that they're they're being willfully obtuse and haven't looked into it anymore, or they're trying to twist their brain into some kind of pretzel rather than admit that maybe they were wrong or this wasn't what they assumed it was, because it's impossible to look at the facts of what happened here and have any other conclusion except the one that was reached. >> although you got to follow the money to like the father of this guy. now that's who filed a civil suit. well, here's to say that. to say that, you know, this shouldn't have happened. i shouldn't be going through this. my son didn't have to die. did he even know his son? i mean, this father of this, of this man. this is a homeless guy with schizophrenia. i don't think the father was anywhere in his life. >> real quick, if you want to go with the racist line. yeah, the racist man walked on a subway and saw a black man threatening to kill more black people. he would just say, well, go ahead. where's the popcorn? yeah, you know what i'm saying? like, oh, this is a good day for me. >> exactly. >> good point. >> no sense. and this guy stepped up and then, you know, he suffered the consequences. but he said if he could do it

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tonight? >> is this still a thing? progressive chumps still attacking trump even though 45 will now be 47. the left is not letting up. new york attorney general letitia james says she will not drop the civil fraud case against him, arguing presidential immunity does not protect him from civil litigation. evidently, neither do common sense the will of the people or millions of voters. meanwhile, manhattan district attorney alvin bragg is urging judge juan merchan not to toss out trump's guilty verdict on the hush money case. it's nice to see alvin bragg pushing for something besides a meat lover's pizza. okay, so, kat, the do you think that they are just going to let this fade away, that they can't give it up right now? they just they know that trump seems to be winning and winning big, but they can't face their supporters because they promised. >> yeah, i really do feel like it's the same thing as what i talked about. the people, they're in too deep. yeah, it's like people don't realize it actually is an option to say

you've learned something. people will do anything rather than say, you know what, i might not have been right about that. i've learned something and people just won't do that for some reason. i mean, the hush money case, i know personally several people who hate trump still and voted for him because of the hush money case. yeah, because they were so disturbed by this. you know, trump saying that he's not above the law when really no one ever has been charged in this way before. so clearly the law was always above charging anyone else. so clearly political that disturbed people who were like, i still hate trump and i'm still going to vote for him. i know multiple people personally, so imagine how many people like that there are, right? but they just feel like they don't matter. they're going to go down with the ship, i guess. or again, there is the option to say, you know what? i've learned something. yes. it's okay. >> well, that's the thing, is that do you think that knowing they know, michelle, that these

the lawfare stuff makes him more popular? every time they filed suit against him, he got more supporters. so, you know, why don't they give it up? because they know it's just helping make him stronger. >> do you remember the payday that he got when they found him guilty on those? all of a sudden, this, like, $150 million poured into his coffers for the campaign. yeah, because as you said, it did. it made him more popular. and not only that, as to kat's point, it people off. it's like, really? you're doing this in new york? and i'm flummoxed by how many new yorkers seem to be okay with these two yo yos. letitia james and alvin bragg. it's like, get them out of there. you see crime on the street. you see illegal immigrants beating up cops and being let out of jail the next day or within hours. and then there's this, and it's nobody cares except that it's donald trump and the trump haters just just want to see this happen. but i do get the sense what you

indicated there kind of going to let this stuff dissolve in the water. yeah. like right now they can't say, oh, we got to let it go. they've refused to say we were wrong. so i just feel like over the course of time it's going to dissolve. and i'd like to believe that new yorkers would elect different people for these roles. yeah. >> well, i mean, i remember in the 90s, you know, i was of the giuliani era, lou, and people were willing back then, new yorkers were willing to elect a republican to get us out of the problems that we were in. i don't think we're in that world anymore, that that ship has sailed, right? yeah, yeah. >> and i'm sort of when this came up, i was thinking, which case? yeah. because there's been so many that i can't keep track of them. yeah. how many charges? which case. and you know, to kat's point, i think like, they're so deep into this, i feel like they need to just start coming up with any, any new charge. they can just start making stuff up, like, like just keep going with it. let this be your thing, you know, and just see, you know,

have some fun with it. maybe. >> yeah. well, i mean, wait till he's president again and then they're going to go after him for something, right? >> accused him of being a squeegee guy or something like that. like, make it real new york, you know. exactly. donald trump was doing graffiti somewhere, like, really? you know. yeah. make it happen. >> tyrus, are they going to ever let up, or do you think they're going to continue with this? >> they can't let up because the people who finances their campaigns, the people who helped them get along, they wanted trump's head on a platter so they didn't deliver it. and at the same time, the city crime is out of hand. so if they say if they were to admit how incompetent they were and how baseless the charges were, they're proving everyone else right. so then they would lose the only people who still support them, which is that extreme progressive left. they're going to stay until the money dries up because they don't want to get reelected, and they can't run a campaign ad like beautiful streets of new york, a place where you can bring the children and sit down at the coffee and let them

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success, caitlin said, quote, i've earned every single thing, but as a white person, there is privilege. the more we can elevate black women, that's going to be a beautiful thing. it prompted sports columnist jason whitlock to say this quote. caitlin clark bends the knee. kissing the rear of black women is a rite of passage in the wnba. so is caitlin sincere or is she kissing someone's rear? let's discuss michelle now from the sidelines. what do you think? you know, i'm not going to say i feel bad for caitlin clark. she's doing great. she's, you know, she's she's living the life. but do you think this was, you know, taking the knee that was. or do you think it was just her just trying to get through an interview? >> i think a little bit of both, yeah. listen, reggie miller and i were the announced team for the wnba for the first few years of its existence, and all we did was applaud all of these black superstars lisa leslie, sheryl swoopes, ruthie

bolton, just tons of them, right? that's what we did. all right. the wnba didn't make a lot of money. caitlin clark comes along and it skyrockets. and it has nothing to do with the fact that she's white. and she acknowledges that. she says, i earned every bit of it. and she did. it's because when she's on the court and she comes down and crosses that line, that midcourt line, she could shoot it at any moment from anywhere, and it'll likely go in and people want to watch that. it's amazing. it's like steph curry, amazing stuff. so to bring it into this white privilege stuff, it's disappointing. but i'll tell you, it's not really surprising given what she's risking every time she she gets on the court and the fact that she knows she's a target. and a lot of people resent her because she's white. yeah. >> tyrus i mean, i see everybody's perspective on this. >> i see, you know why she's very convenient of you, tom. >> no, exactly. >> but, you know, he's everybody's friend, which which means he's nobody's friend.

>> and i almost think people on social media, i wish they wouldn't be harsh to her, but they're coming after her because they really. they want to see the end of this woke thing. they want to see the end of this white privilege thing. and so that's why they're kind of going after her. >> well, if you want to get rid of white privilege, basketball is definitely the way to go. yes. okay. i can tell you right now, anybody who went to a pickup game and that there was four brothers and a white guy, and the white guy says, i'm guarding you. you're like, yes. yeah. so listen, larry bird was so offended. if a white guy would guard him, he would yell at the black players for not respecting him enough. so again, this is her just she just wants to play basketball, i get it. and what she really said was like, i've earned everything i have. and sure, i'll acknowledge that there's advantages to being white. sure, fine. she just wants to play ball. the problem is she is a jump shooter in a layup league and they can't stand it. and her ability has nothing to do with the color of her skin. it's her work ethic. she did. she did what she needed to do. she continues to improve. she's bringing something new to the

game. and here's the scary thing for the establishment they want more caitlin clark. they want more 25 foot j's and 30 foot j's for women. and it's going to change the dynamic of the league. and so i think she's more of a threat to their way of doing things, because those of us who watched the playoffs that sat down to watch it, it was brutal. it was brutal. somebody had 20 rebounds. it wasn't because it was dennis rodman, because nothing was going in like it was just it was brutal. so someone like caitlin clark represents change, and the easiest thing to do is make it about her skin. but it's not. she's just better than you guys are right now. >> yeah. kat, i remember when this term white privilege really started circulating. we were doing redeye together, and i used to poke fun of white privilege and, you know, the whole concept of it. and some people, it bothered them back then. they were uncomfortable being on the show saying, oh, i don't think you should make fun of that. you have to acknowledge it. nowadays, it's kind of like it is better, isn't it, than it was even just like i'm talking now, you know,

8 or 10 years ago. >> you know what bothers me? what's that? that photo of her abs. oh, that's. >> yeah. looks great. >> she could be. >> i find that to be extremely triggering in my current condition. >> yeah, but you understand. >> i mean, look, i think i think very not woke. what she said was when she said she earned it. right? michelle. she said she earned everything she had. yeah. what i, what i think is i want to be okay. so i don't like when to see either side doing a cancel culture. right. and as an independent, i get to be against cancel culture on both sides. yes. and i'm not saying anybody who had an opinion about this is canceling her, but some of the ones i saw, they bothered me. what always bothers me, no matter who's doing it, is i just lost all respect for you. yeah. over a difference of opinion. yeah. so i think that, you know, i don't like it when the left does it. i don't like it when the right does it. i think you can disagree with her on this and also just disagree with her on this rather than saying that she's, you know, you don't have a respect for

her as a human being. i'll never watch you play ever. yeah. it's like, yes, that's what they're saying online. and i know it's not true. right. yeah you will. >> lou, i think we are approaching the time when people don't have to do this. you know, years gone by, everyone thought they had to kind of bend the knee and they had to, you know, play this game with the with di and acknowledging their privilege and all that stuff. but it's going away, is it not? >> i think it is. and, you know, if caitlin clark was truly an ally, she would stop owning black women on the court. >> i think that's the way you have to go about doing it. >> i'm a huge fan of the sport that she plays, which i. it's basketball, right? yeah. huge. yeah. huge fan of it. you know, i do think that it's unfair that every time a white person shoots it, the hoop gets bigger for them. i think we could probably change that. no, but i, i definitely think that i think it's going away. and i think you have a lot more people who are willing to

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is plummeting in value now that his father will no longer be president. turley says the drop in value of his art reflects not the value of art in the art market, but really the fluctuating influence peddling market. what do you say? >> no question about it. i think turley is absolutely right. can you imagine if donald trump jr blue paint through a straw at a canvas, if it would even sell? >> and maybe, you know what, i might buy that. >> you might buy that by a don jr. but i do. i did read in this article that one of his pieces of artwork and i used piece very carefully here, and the value dropping because it was like poop, you know, it was like his own feces on a thing. >> so, yeah, it just looked like his own feces. >> or do you think that he. i heard he did his own allegedly. he allegedly used his own feces, which is like, yeah, whatever. >> wow. >> very hanging at greg's house, right? yeah, exactly. >> this is exactly ali. >> okay. cat hunter reportedly

sold paintings to only ten people for $1.5 million. good value. >> yeah, it's almost as if what he was really selling wasn't the paintings. just, like. just like what a lot of people were saying this whole time that this is, you know, if he's selling influence, selling access to his father, access to the power and influence and all that, and if the paintings go down in value, which i'm sure they will, that's actual proof that that's exactly what was happening before. not that it matters, because remember, he can't get in trouble for anything he's ever done. >> that's right. i mean, so he's got nothing to worry about, tyrus. and so i think it might not be good for him because someone like he's been dealing with his own, you know, criminal cases, it's given him something to do. idle hands are the devil's plaything, right? so, you know, he may. when? now that he's scot free and he doesn't have to worry about getting arrested. he's really going to get in trouble, isn't he? >> yeah. right. yeah. no, the

problem is, is his. there's no influence to purchase. you don't have to go through hunter to get to the old guy anymore. you just have to sign in at the home. yeah, you know what i'm saying? it's over. yeah. you know, and whatever secrets that you were going to get from the white house, it depends on what day you get old corn pop on, you know, because there's nothing worse than selling influence to a guy who has dementia. yeah. so he'd be like, yeah, i'll make one call to my dad, and then he'll call, you know, he'll call china and make it happen. and dad's just trying to tie his shoes that day, so it's going to be there's no influence to sell. there's nothing left, though. >> i mean, i mean, this is. >> what could he tell you how to do? hey, if you want to be able to do some stuff, your dad get your dad to be president. and then when you get caught, he'll pardon you. you know how hard it is to get your dad to be president. first of all, i'd have to find who mine was, first of all. then i have to build a campaign for him. then i got to get him in there, you

know, and then i can do whatever or whatever debauchery i want to do. and then hope he doesn't run out on me again when i need a pardon. >> i know it's tough, lou. i mean, people still, they stay involved. the obamas have a political machine. the clintons, they've been making money off the, you know, their clinton foundation, everything else. does hunter have anything he can fall back on? is there any biden family power left? >> i really hope so, because i'm one of the ten people. yeah. and yeah, it's been really hard to explain to my family why we don't have any savings, but we have one of hunter's piece of crap paintings in our living room. really? i mean, i'm going for broke here. i need joe biden to run again in 2028. you do? what about me? yeah, i got to. >> i got to find something to do on the gutfeld show. so that guy was my ticket. but people used to say to me, they'd be like, oh, i bet you hope biden

wins, you know, so you can keep doing that biden impression. i said, what, are you kidding me? i'd rather be out of work and have trump as president, right? >> well, let's be fair. the biden impression is going to be pretty easy in about two years. >> yeah, i know, oh my god, it's morose. but can he do anything? i mean, he is a he's a former addict. people love that kind of story. could he be, you know, like a public speaker? could he go on the national speaker, motivational speaker? >> here's how to get, you know, rid of your addiction. i don't doesn't he have kids to raise? i mean, isn't there something now that doesn't make you money, i grant you, but he has. >> i think he has a kid. he needs to be introduced to onlyfans. >> oh, onlyfans. there we go. i mean, he's been doing onlyfans already, just for free. >> yeah. >> it's true. okay. well hunter good luck. up next, if you want to be great, get your head straight. yeah.

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higher levels of passion and grit, and they are more successful than people who have negative thinking. now, i wanted to go to you first because you seem to have made a career with negative thinking. i mean, you're proving this wrong, i think right? >> i think so, because if i thought i was doing a great job, then i wouldn't. i wouldn't work so hard, you know what i mean? i watch video like i can't watch myself because whenever i watch a video of myself, i'm like, oh, i hate her. >> oh my god, i know what you mean. >> yeah, i know what you mean. >> oh, why would you pronounce that like that? why would you make that face like you? you're so. but then you get better. you get better when you hate yourself. yeah. >> so the stinking thinking. >> you believe in it, i do, because it's like, okay, if i'm never good enough for myself, then i need to try harder to be better. yeah. >> you know, that's the growth mindset, but it's not positive thinking. >> i never look at myself and say, wow, good job. that's not true. there have been maybe like 5 or 6 things i've done that i've really liked. >> well, look, obviously this

thing was really good. yeah. >> my bit on preparation h but obviously that works for cat. >> but the positive thinking works for me. i've always loved that stuff. michelle. the power of positive thinking i read it how to win friends and influence people. you know who i love? tony robbins. i love that stuff. personal power, success. i thrive on it well. >> so i think that both can be true here. i think that you can because i like you. i have horrible self-esteem, always have my whole life, and it's driven me. but it's because i'm trying to grow. so it is a growth mindset. so it's sort of in a backwards way. it's a positive thing. you're trying to get better all the time. so can i just say this though? if this were this study, it just seems so obvious to me, tom, that if it had been done in the united states and not norway, i'd be calling doge right now and saying, please get rid of these researchers. why are we spending the money on? yeah, of course a growth mindset leads to success. >> well, this was from norway, tyrus. does that affect anything? it's cold there. >> yeah. there are. other study

was if you pee in the bowl, it won't get on the floor. i'm so, like so tired of these geniuses. you know, i was giving britain a lot of guff. now i got a new problem. norway. there are so many paths to success. everyone's different, and most path paths are just loaded with failure and heartbreaking moments. and i feel terrible. and i have to be better and improve. and there's always that one guy who's like, if you're positive, and where does that guy end up stuffed in a trash can somewhere? like, nobody wants to hear that stuff. like, that's like saying you're everybody's friend. i just want to smash them in the face. like, life is hard. you make tough choices. there is no riddle or rhyme. they're probably selling an infomercial or some kind of if you take this, if you take this orange smiley face and put it on your forehead at night before you go to bed, you'll have perfect energy. none of that works, okay. you don't know how you go. you just get up every day. you do the best you can. you smile when you can. you frown

when you have to. but like, you don't know where you're going to end up. i wanted to be the heavyweight wrestling champion of the world. and i'm sitting in this chair yelling at you. never once did i figure that out. i was never the plan, if you ask me. hey, how did you get to fox? i'd be like, i still don't know. okay. yeah. so nice job norway, i hope i hope president trump buys you and we call you new texas. >> yeah, it's so funny, lou. it's so funny because my dream was sitting in this chair getting yelled at by tyrus. >> i'm a regular make a wish foundation, and my dream was to be everybody's friend. >> no, no, i think i think what happens a lot when people see when they look out and they see people who are incredibly talented and they're like, i'm not that. it stops them from even taking a first step or doing something. i know so many people who they're like, you know, i'd love to write a book or i'd love to, you know, start try comedy. and it's like, well, the only way to do it is

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