tv Outnumbered FOX News December 12, 2024 9:00am-10:00am PST
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♪ ♪ >> hello, everyone. this is a topical outnumbered." i am kayleigh mcenany with harris faulkner, also joining us as kennedy, lauren simonetti, fox business correspondent and david webb, fox news contributor and a host of the david webb show. president-elect donald trump has been named time's person of the year after his stunning and historic political comeback. on the cover after several trials, surviving two assassination attempts, and becoming just the second president to win nonconsecutive terms. the magazine explains trump has marshaled a comeback of historic proportions for driving a once in a generation political realignment, reshaping the american presidency and altering america's role in the world.
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donald trump is time's 2024 person of the year. they continued that the president-elect has the chance to reshape the country forever." "since he began running for president in 2015 no single individual has played a larger role if changing the course of politics and history than trump." trump is once again at the center of the world and in as strong of a position as he's ever been. trump spoke about this this morning after ringing the opening bell at the new york stock exchange. >> thank you very much. this is a tremendous honor. i brought some of my compa compatriots. i'm going to do a beautiful job for you for the next four years. it's been really something very special and i have to say "time" magazine getting this honor for the second time i think i like it better this time actually. [laughter] we did a good job.
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>> kayleigh: 13 presidents have been on time's cover. donald trump is the first ever do it two times. time had this sentence. it trumps political rebirth is unparalleled in american history. there are four iconic images i want to pull up. you and i have covered the stories all year and what you'll see is the trump mug shot. trump after being shot. of course he put his hand in the air, yelling "fight, fight, fight." as a mcdonald's worker come in the garbage truck. the greatest political comeback. >> harris: hard to say the hinge point because there were so many. july 13, 2024, the first assassination attempt on the nation's 45th president was a hinge point. there were people who talked about that. i see mark zuckerberg suddenly on the wall right there. he was one. tiger woods was somebody who was playing a tournament that weekend and on that sunday he said even he was thinking about
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what was going on with the former president and having been shot. that was on the next day, su sunday. ironically, trump also played golf that day with the bandage on his ear. the spirit of fight, fight, fight was the greatest hinge point, nonpolitical hinge point. not talking about policy. the humanity that came forth of survivability and resilience that we have as an american population. full display and a reminder of what we can do and we love this country. that was a huge hinge point. >> kayleigh: trump mentioned that moment he won new voters. new voters came into his camp. they recognize the american spirit in that moment. i want to go to back to three months before today because there was a different time cover. the cover says "in trouble." what it was getting at was kamala harris was essentially new on the scene. she had a debate that many in
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the mainstream media were hailing and they had trump and the golf carts saying he's in trouble. then time person of the year. >> kennedy: it makes you wonder who's writing copy for those very stories that corresponded to the cover. that's what they wanted, a lot of liberals and mainstream media newsrooms, that's what they wanted. they wanted trump to be in trouble. they wanted her to be the savior of the party of the country and they wanted him to go away forever. and that wasn't going to happen because, you know, i do think that the ses assassination atte, that was the hinge point, a lot of people said, how would i react in that situation? how would joe biden was still the nominee, how would he react in that situation? was really a stunning contrast for people. but then to have to write the copy when he is the person of the year saying this is
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historic, the biggest comeback we've ever seen in american politics. i know that's really difficult for them but it also goes to show you that a lot of these newsrooms, they have had to acknowledge that this is a paradigm shift in politics whether you like it or not, the politics that they liked they tried to shove down voters' throats on this time they weren't having it. he was hungry for the presidency in a very different way than he was in 2016, as you knew, and it was galvanized the moment of that first assassination attempt. >> kayleigh: the liberal media eating a lot of crow. they should remember how it tastes. lauren, these are the candidates he beat out. elon musk, mark zuckerberg, kamala harris, benjamin netanyahu, joe rogan, quite a powerful list. a >> lauren: he is friends and has an alliance with almost everybody on that short-list. in 2016 he was a new face. it was a fluke may be to some
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that this is the new president of president of the united states. fast-forward to 2024, he has redefined the party. people of all shapes and sizes, former democrats are coming to mar-a-lago and kissing the ring because they are part of this sea change that he is the head of and he cemented that. that's why he's on that cover. he won not just the electoral vote, he won the popular vote. the only thing americans can do is at least respect that he has been able to do this. i'm hopeful it's going to be a great 2025. already you're starting to see things change. he's acting like the president even though he's not quite the president yet. syria, the regime down. he deserves that cover. >> kayleigh: david, i wanted to save this for you because i knew you would melee. one year ago the time person of the year in 2023 was taylor swift. she endorsed, harris, notably.
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kind of a little bit of the opposite. there is a deeper irony here. >> david: [whistles] >> kayleigh: among the nominees, not just taylor swift, listen to this sweet irony. the trump prosecutors were on the list of 2023 nominees. donald trump became the first u.s. president they say to be indicted in the nation's history, charged and four separate cases, 90 charges. goes on and on to talk about georgia, new york. these cases dismantled now for the most part. >> david: first of all, real quick to the list there's only two people on that list that i actually -- would qualify. elon musk and bibi netanyahu under actual rules when you look at it and okay i'll throw this morning. i will to really bring the room down. i was person of the year in 2011. point of interest, look at all the shortlists. they pick from pop culture. i'm with kennedy. who's writing the copy for these
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people? who's making the decisions? it's like barack obama getting a nobel prize for doing nothing. finally with the selection of donald trump because of his effect on the world come on the news and on the media we have this selection of a person of the year, formerly man of the year, no person of the year, was actually fit all the rules and qualified by his effect on the country and on the world. >> harris: you must be the most modest person in media. i've known you for 20 years and i didn't know that about you. >> david: i also ring the new york stock exchange -- >> harris: that i remember. i remember the suit. >> kayleigh: i made the point that i thought alvin bragg would be the first one died not because he had the facts but because he wanted to be time and of the year. he didn't get it. as trump rings new york stock exchange opening bell, brand-new fox news poll shows america's feeling hopeful about a trump presidency. (♪)
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>> kayleigh: brand-new fox news poll's show americans looking forward to a second trump presidency. more than half of voters are saying they are feeling hopeful after the election. 42% of voters say the country will be safer under trump. when it comes to our border, top issue this election cycle, an astounding 56% believe it will be more secure with trump in office. these are the issues voters are looking at and i want to play a sound bite from trump this morning. this stuck out. it was very powerful. at the new york stock exchange,
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wall street basically, he chose to focus on main street. listen to this. >> i tell the story about a woman who, an old woman, old woman, no money, went to a grocery store, had three apples. she put them down on the counter and she looked and she saw the price and she said would you excuse me and she walked one of the apples back to the refrigerator and came back to pay for the two apples and she left with two apples and the woman at the counter said that was so sad. when i heard about the story i said, that should never happen in america and it's not going to happen in america. we are quick to do it right. >> kayleigh: powerful. >> david: very powerful and important fact about wall street. it's really based on main main street. every product. mostly have in our homes, the cars we drive, all of this, the supply lines, these are all treated. that company somehow, when you look at america, small business
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drives the economy. successful small businesses grow and maybe they end up on the nasdaq. maybe they end up on the s& s&p 500. this relationship is something trump understands. the carpenter who works on a construction site in one of his buildings is building a building that maybe traded in a public relationship. so many of these things are connected. trump gets it. the hope that many americans have is that this blue-collar billionaire understands them, understands the needs, knows what it's like to be there, and it's something we have to do in this country, stop selling or buying the envy that the democrats are trying to sell us. the fact is that the american people are all connected no matter what level you are economically. >> kayleigh: you and i were speaking yesterday about immigration, how important it was, also the economy and after we spoke the fox poll he came out. 60% said lowering prices is their top issue, that's number one. it's above immigration.
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when you look by a party, republicans, democrats, the only point of partisan agreement, lowering prices is most important. >> harris: kayleigh and i are often over here on the couch trying to devise stuff. yesterday you came up with the presidential medal for daniel penny. i've been working on this idea, i think we need a farming czar, someone who can go into the middle of the country, place where china has bought up a lot of farmland. see what land we can get back and really did again and how we can help farmers more than just subsidies. trying to understand what their daily lives are like. they are the beginning of the food chain and you talk about those companies that are traded, sometimes that's not what's happening for them so getting really into their heads and their lived experiences for pricing and all of that, before it gets to the grocery store. what do they need? everybody says they love to support the farmers and farm to
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table and so on and so forth. do we really understand that a federal level what they need? that way we can better understand how we can attack the prices particularly on food and that's what people were thinking about most when you would ask them on the campaign trail. well, you know what price matters to you question what we've got to be able to eat, people would say. >> kayleigh: "the wall street journal" had this. trump has promised to tame prices but only up -- but even a president can only do so much. the inflation numbers have stalled. >> lauren: speaking of farm prices, we got a measure of wholesale inflation today. producer prices hotter than expected. consumer prices, what we pay when we go to the store to buy those items. inflation is going to be really hard to bring down to the goal of 2%. the way to do it is unleash energy. reuters is reporting that on day one president trump will sign
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25 -- 25 executive orders mostly on the border and on energy. because energy is what can drive lower prices in the economy. this is not going to be easy but he was at the new york stock exchange today as a man of the people, not a man of the year. he worked that crowd, shook hands, accepted one of the traders' jackets. this is manhattan and they were chanting usa, usa. they believe he can bring the corporate tax rate down to 15%, regulations. the new york stock exchange is regulated, small businesses that operate on the floor of the new york stock exchange are regulated. he can help cut the red tape and bring down prices. >> kayleigh: kennedy, let's end where we began. americans believe he'll make the country safer but i was interested that americans are hopeful and that included one in five democrats. if trump truly tries to unite the country maybe he could win over those one in five
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democrats. >> neil: the number of republicans who are optimistic, hopeful, looking for a new year, that's in the upper 80s and 90s. the democrats who are depressed and anxious, the number is much lower and i think there are a lot of people on the left who are relieved because they want their cities to be safer. you look at places like chicago that has really devolved into its own sort of ruble civil war, the citizens against the hapless mayor and you have a lot of places like this that just don't feel anymore. they used to be safe. that's what people want to return to regardless of their politics i think there are a lot more people in that survey. everyone wants lower taxes, everyone wants lower prices. to lorenz point, absolutely the more energy production we have, the more access to new forms of energy including nuclear if i may say so myself, i'm very optimistic this administration will expand the nuclear option.
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so many aspects where people are hurting they want relief. prices, taxes, energy, doge and massive government cost-cutting, that's going to have the biggest impact on taxes. when you have fewer expenditures, you will need less revenue. >> kayleigh: as trump said success is what will unite the country. we will be watching. a few short weeks. the united states has the world's most advanced military and intelligence so why does nobody know who's flying the car sized drones acrosss new jersey? or ga. ga can be unpredictable—and progress rapidly—leading to irreversible vision loss. now there's something you can do to... ♪ ( slow. it. down.) ♪ ♪ ( get it goin' slower.)♪ ask your doctor about izervay. ♪ (i. zer. vay.) ♪ ♪ ( gets ga goin' slower.) ♪ izervay is an eye injection. don't take it if you have an infection or active
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>> harris: we are giving a few details emerging around the mysterious drones which have been flying for 24 nights straight in the skies of new jersey and nearby states. it is a national security concern and despite having the worlds most advanced military and intelligence, no one seems to know where they're coming
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from, at least that's what we are being told. witnesses are describing the drones as the size of an suv. more than 3,000 sightings have been reported to the fbi and local municipality, police law-enforcement state police in new jersey say the drones are operating on a frequency that cannot be detected and they illegally go dark when officials try to get close, so that makes me think they are motion censored. that's how they keep from hitting buildings. you get close, they go dark, cloaked almost. there's concerns the drones may be from iran and you saw this on "the faulkner focus." it made worldwide news when a new jersey congressman told me this. >> iran launched on mothership about a month ago that contains these drones. i'm going to tell you the deal. it's off the east coast of the united states of america. they have launched drones.
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from everything we can see here and again these are from my sources. i don't say this lightly. >> harris: by the way, a texas representative told me later in the day, another program i hosted for martha maccallum, the same thing. he had been talking with people at very high levels about the possibility of a mothership from iran paying off our coast and he made a good point there are a whole lot of things we can talk about. we don't know the facts because the pentagon is not telling us. the white house is not telling us the pentagon was quick to say our foreign adversaries are not behind the drones. >> these are not u.s. military drones. our initial assessment is that these are not drones or activities coming from a foreign entity or adversary. >> representative jeff van drew, republican from new jersey, was on the air saying iran launched a mothership about a month ago that contains these drones and that the mothership is off
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east coast of the united states. is there any truth to that? >> there is no iranian ship off the coast of the united states and there is no so-called mothership launching drones towards the united states. >> harris: t the -- for they are not the drones are looking for. >> kay>> kennedy: how do they k? they know something. why might you be more transparent, more trance forthcoming. i was talking to my friend sam in new jersey and they are freaked out. the see them every night. she was like, that fpr tip line has to be bombarded. we see it and we are scared. wise in their governor a little more shot out of a cannon about this instead of saying it's fine, there's nothing to worry about. we should wrap them in goo and bring them back to earth? >> harris: who?
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the lawmakers? [laughter] the governor of new jersey was a no-show into meetings yesterday with state officials and mayors in his state. today he is supposed to have a conversation with the white house. that's like no one talking to no one. i don't know what comes out of that and you're right if they know that we shouldn't be worried how to they know? >> lauren: trust. how can we trust what our authorities are telling us? first of all, if it's not the military and it's not a foreign adversary and google earth can show the diving board and my pool in my backyard -- >> kennedy: you have a diving board? >> lauren: i do. why don't we have technology to have great our own. have a better p.r. campaign to make the american people feel safer then get all your agencies
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on board and figure out the rules of engagement for drone technology. >> harris: all great questions. if they are undetectable holcomb people can detect them with their phones? all right, last hour i spoke with former pentagon official brent sadler about the government's massive budget. i'm talking big cash. the very few answers we are getting even though we are paying the government all that money. >> $824 billion doesn't buy leadership. and experience. that's what we are missing in all of this. it's not a lack of capabilities, not a lack of authorities. it's a lack of leadership quite frankly and it's not a new is issue. >> harris: icu agreeing with that. >> david: you have an agency that's failed seven audits in a row. the people that need to be talked about and talk to in this is where are the acquisition executives? each service has an acquisition executive. they make decisions on every
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dime, every dollar that's spent. need to look at dod overall and find out where these feelings are carrying we need real assessment. we talk about doge. we need doge inside the pentagon to figure out where the supply lines are coming from. who is setting up the contracts, who is getting the contracts. it's not just about the cost of a $3,000 hammer. it's beyond that. it sounded we get to that point and how do we get rid of it? there's so much cleanup needed and it starts with the sec def, service chiefs and a real alignment. they need to work their way down to the people at the 06 level. they see what's going on. they're there. >> harris: it on biden's watch we lost our se sec def.
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god bless him. he came out of his surgery okay. lloyd austin. >> kayleigh: think about how crazy this p.r. has been. the retired special forces person told "the new york times" this could be a special access program that only about half a dozen would know about and he said that would extend the government's nonanswer because a lot them -- yesterday said i tested drones over military installations and one reason to doubt that this is the case and rebeccah heinrichs told me this yesterday, a reason to doubt that it would be this is when there is public hysteria people stop the program. they stop it, they don't allow mask public hysteria. this qualifies as that. if it's a foreign adversary, brett went on to say china and russia are ten years ahead of us with their drone capabilities. >> harris: what are they scooping up? this story. vandenberg space force base,
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they arrested a man from china as he was about to board a flight back to china, he had been flying a drone over the base taking photographs of vanderburgh and he made an initial court appearance earlier this week. that should be everywhere. my team was hunting for it. look at this. claudia cowan did a great job reporting on it, we have a lot of stuff going on. >> kayleigh: it's around trump's golf course. >> harris: trump's border czar tom homan reveals which democrat city is first on his list for mass deportation. take a look. ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ >> harris: oh, that song. some of the memories. fed up, people in chicago taking on liberal mayor brandon johnson once again at last night's city council meeting. a group of people who live there or shirts saying chicago flips red, they tore into amir johnson over his progressive policies and for putting illegal immigrants before a long time chicago american citizen. watch this. >> democrats love to accuse trump and republicans of corruption and constitutional violation. under their leadership in chicago black families like mine face the same abuse, constitutional rights ignored, actions covered up, public corruption left unchecked. mayor brandon johnson, you took an oath to uphold the constitution. when you took an oath only intending to fight for the
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amendments regarding illegal aliens. you are violating the u.s. constitution. you talk about how trump is so unconstitutional and how he's going to overturn the government and he's going to do all this. but i've been coming here for ten years in the democratic party. this ain't trump. >> the stupidity to think we don't know that you all could have corrected the stuff along time ago. the stupidity to think that you can come with this time of recommendation and not come with the true accounting of how much money was spent on these illegals. >> building a wall building atoll around america around chicago we don't want illegals in our community. we don't want migrants terrorizing our own people. and to have you sit appearance that we have to accept $70 million given to them when you've got back people that are
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already struggling you need help, it's a disgrace. this election of donald trump represent something that is just more than him winning. this is the end of vote lulu matter who. >> harris: kayleigh. >> kayleigh: we have been covering this and it's my favorite story because it's a microcosm of the election but look at the hats they were wearing, the shirts, they said flip chicago red. everyone had a hat or shirt or hat and a shirt. chicago had an opportunity to flip not read that centrist blue and they chose to reject paul vallas. they elected brandon johnson, i hope those motors standing up are truly able to flip chicago red because when you have about 982 million budget shortfall projected and you've spent money on illegal immigrants, you've got a problem. >> harris: i was reading that they are looking at attacks based it's not going to survive in some people may see their taxes go up by double digits.
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>> it's basic economics, if you lower the quality of life people who provide the tax base are going to leave and who is stuck with the burden. people who can't afford to leave, people who have kids in schools where they don't want to uproot them and hope they find a better way of life somewhere outside the city. they are the ones who really get just punched in the gut by these progressive policies. i look at these voters and i asked them, maybe it's a little different now than it was two years ago but i ask, what will it take for you to realize that progressivism fails working people in particular. i like how much more abuse do you have to take from these do-gooders who have no problem dismantling these systems in flushing ones great cities down the toilet. >> harris: tom homan spoke in chicago. let's watch.
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>> chicago is in trouble because your mirror sucks and your governor sucks. we're going to start right here in chicago, illinois. if you're chicago mayor doesn't want to help he can step aside. but if he impedes us, if he harbors and conceals illegal aliens, i will prosecute. >> harris: believe him. >> david: you really should believe tom. he is a man of his word unlike the former border czar, not a woman of anything. chicago they went from democrat to progressive to socialist. brandon johnson is a socialist, i've said it before on this couch. when he was at the chicago teachers union, when he spoke at the socialist convention in 2013. i've been through his speech, this is a guy who is the next level deconstruction of chicago and that cancer economically
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culturally that has harmed the citizens, like kennedy said, the people who can't afford to leave. the people who can't afford to stay can't afford to leave and they are literally being told another 300 million in taxes and we'll take it from you to fix it. it's not a trump problem, not a republican problem. it's a brandon johnson, j.b. pritzker, you have mad again, the longest-serving speaker of the house, he's a corrupt democrat in the state house in illinois. this has been beyond daily politics. if it doesn't change people in chicago will suffer more than a long winter. it's likely a lot of the homeless will take an even harder term. >> harris: you heard tom homan they are going to start with the deportation of illegals in chicago. tom homan is in new york, also meeting with mayor eric adams today. >> eric adams of new york is saying all work with you. i would love to explore and
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executive order. we can get the criminal migrants out of here. brandon johnson, what is his approval rating? he is saying the exact opposite. what he's going to do isecome a mecca for criminal migrants. they are going to say why go to new york? we will go chicago because we have more of a safe haven there because they are trying to double down on being a super sanctuary city like san francisco. >> harris: i was saying this on the couch yesterday. california, places like chicago, at least we will know how to round up the illegals because they will all be in those places. canadian prime minister justin trudeau tries to hit back at donald trump but instead insult to americans. he is so smooth.
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in your face, to the chicago mayor from tom homan. deportations will start in chicago. democratic alderman raymond lopez just ahead. does president trump have a plan to eliminate dei from federal departments and agencies? chris rufo is concerned he doesn't. he'll be here. i'm john roberts. join sandra and me top of the hour for "america reports." see you in about 11 minutes. ♪ ♪ >> kayleigh: canadian prime minister justin trudeau tried to hit back at president-elect trump but instead he maned to insult you, all of you americans out there. you may remember at a recent meeting trump reportedly suggested to trudeau that canada become the 51st state if the country couldn't handle his border tariffs trump then doubled down on the jab, labeling the prime minister the "governor" of canada.
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here is trudeau's attempt at a counterpunch. >> we were supposed to be on a study if difficult sometimes march towards progress. and yet just a few weeks ago, the united states voted for a second time tend not elect its first woman president. everywhere women's rights and women's progress is under attack covertly and subtly. but i want you
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why are you meddling in our politics and making those comments when you're not music on the way in, because remember, it was just a few weeks ago. trudeau went to the taylor swift concert while there were attacks on the police and these pro-palestinian protests that got out of hand. and he did respond and condemn the violence, but it was so late and so not satisfying. and then he doubles down with this. it's just unnecessary. it is. >> david, you mentioned your radio programs on in canada, and your callers are not big fans of trudeau. >> no. look, if even in his home district around montreal, they don't like him anymore.
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trudeau is simply not well liked, mainly because he's failed. like so many -- and it looks like there's a real chance for certainly not just a conservative governor in the sense of a new prime minister, someone who will govern that way but the chance that the people in toronto and even in quebec and others will come together under what they need. they don't want to be treated like the convoy was treated when they have their freedom convoy and they shut down their bank account. they don't want to be treated as second-class to the illegal aliens that trudeau welcomes. trudeau will always be a failure. he will never even be what his father was in his father was a bad enough leftist. >> harris: do you mind if i double down a little bit with you? it's not a dictatorship. they voted for him could use that they don't like him any
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anymore. >> they saw the results of his soy boyness. they call him that all the time. they saw what happened. he had a legacy name. trudeau. that's how he won. he had a lot of support and to be fair back when he was elected the outer provinces were not as engaged politically. once they saw what happened, just like we saw people come over to the nonleftist side in america away from the democrats, away from kamala. there are a lot of proud canadians. they play a lot of pond hockey. they love our relationship. i welcome you. 51st state, come on in. >> kayleigh: maybe just maybe american voters rejected hillary clinton hillary clinton and kamala harris not because of gender but because they didn't believe in their plans for the country. >> harris: that's exactly true. this was not a crime against
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women even though hillary clinton even had trouble getting women on the left to come to some of her events here in new york city. i remember that. i remember those empty events. it's about policy, it's about leadership. there's the quotient of likability. it's not even about that. people want to be able to afford food. they want to have a pathway to the american dream and they didn't see it through those two women i don't even think they were all that similar. the democrats put it very different women. it isn't like they had some gender thing in common or anything in common other than their gender. they just chose differently and timing is everything. it was time for kamala to sit down. >> kayleigh: may be trudeau instead of insulting your greatest ally you could work on rectifying the trade imbalance. that's going to be a problem for you generate money. more "outnumbered" in a moment.
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♪ ♪ >> last but not least, florida is giving over 100,000 employees in extra gift for the holidays this year. governor ron desantis announcing this, quote, in addition to christmas day and new year's day, our state workers will get three extra days off, december 23rd, 24th, and 31st, to spend more time with their families and loved ones this holiday season. they are calling him desantaclause. >> i love this. he nosed, he is former military, to want to spend time with your family. i love he sees the value in what makes us hole, having love in our lives and our families around us. he has tapped into that, i think.
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>> proud floridian here. i'm with him. some days off. >> you and me both. kennedy? >> he knows how to party. [laughter] absolutely. get used to being with your family. doesn't have to be a 24-hour service cycle. let's do some things for a few days. >> absolutely. lauren? >> got through some hurricanes, time off, state is doing great, bring it on. >> he has a way of doing this, with police officers, coming to florida amid the crime wave, by giving them extra incentives, rewarding teachers before, so desantaclause, it is, florida is a great state. everyone should check it out. thanks, everyone. don't forget to dvr the show. it has been a big week. christmas coming up soon and the new year. we look forward to celebrating in here on "outnumbered." again, dvr the show, but for n now, "america reports." >> sandra: breaking just now, doj inspector general michael horowitz releasing a brand-new report detailing the fbi's handling of the events
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