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>> harris: on a fine friday, we are glad you are with us for "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner and tammy bruce joining us with american spirited enterprise. julie banderas, fox news anchor, forgive me, dr. nicole saphier fox news contributor and board-certified physician and ian fryer senior advisor at america first legal and former doj deputy director of public affairs. welcome, everybody. we began what is the final national survey from fox news polling for the biden administration. so this is it for 2024. it is a visible code to this report card for joe biden. the president will leave office with record low 41% disapproval rating, 58% disapproving there including about one and a five democrat voters soured on biden
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across a range of issues. look at your screen 37% approve of his policy and 40% inflation and 31% approve of the job he's doing on border security. that is a less than third of the survey and i don't know why they bother to. unhappy with the direction of the country pier until numbers help explain dismal. one and seven say biden will be remembered as one of the worst presidents. that may be why the majority americans feel hopeful present electrons election to the white house. your thoughts. >> ian: surprising news 2024 at biden is viewed this way going out of office. he campaigned as a return to normalcy, which actually another worst president and he campaigned as a moderate. the most liberal in american history but an economy that was
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good and a border secure and he run them. on the way out the door, all this time the joy will not pardon my son and now he is pardoning his son. i think people are right one in three, he will go down as one of the worst presidents in history. you could have been several mount rushmore and put it in san francisco. james buchanan and johnson, joe biden right on there. >> harris: juliet no joe you are saying it would be bad what he is putting out with the pardon hunter biden and what he has done just for democrats but it affects the entire country ae legacy media complacent with a lie we were told he would not pardon hunter. joel. >> i think one thing americans miss most is transparency. when you mention joe biden and he pardon his son as recently as june and said he would not do so but trust the american system. when a president pardons
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someone, that person's sentence and serve time. he didn't make it to trial so that was alive. at this administration lied to the people so much and that is going to be unfortunately his legacy years and years after served in this country. his leg is legacy, unfortunately, he lacked trance fluency or transparency is something we will never forget. >> harris: tma, legacy over the american citizens. >> tammy: i think it is invaluable and many americans think what could be valuable out of this? he is the perfect example what the system and bureaucracy had become. you had this faceless bureaucracy believes it has been the president and the president is a stand-in, a mascot and doesn't need to be somebody that knows what they are doing. we can do it and do it well. american south's stark difference in the impact on policy. it was a return to normalcy in a certain way. than normal see where american
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people -- american men and women became forgotten again. that was the purpose effectively was for the government to be a living entity and for us to be the generators have tax money that they could stand. that was very transparent. their contempt was transparent. that it is a perfect division between what was and trump and all of his new nominees, this new batch of people that are not new at all. they are just not within the cocktail party circuit at d.c. and what they represent and can be accomplished. that is why americans are hopeful. >> harris: that is why the whole trump proofing not just regard cleaning up the biden-harris border disaster but everything peer to they want to push against him because it makes it feel like american people feel a long time out-of-control land invisible. i want to get to this with you national survey finds 77% of americans have negative feel at
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the economy. they are suffering. that will do it. 62% have a few negative financial situation. 64% feel things are only going to get worse. look, we have 38 and a half more days and speaking conflicts with his legacy and actually help in some kind of way. >> come on, now, to be honest with you, for the american people, unfortunately, i think he has checked out certain things. but the reality exit polling from the election shows the americans care about the economy immigration and that is what president trump ran on. looking at it now you saw president trump ringing the bell this week and simple like bringing forth a picture of a strong economy and not just here in the country but regaining footprint on the global scale. that is why people moving forward are feeling fear excited a. the excitement is palpable for incoming administration.
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that optimism index rose 2016 after president trump elected them and tipped times of pandemic and did during joe biden's presidency because him inflation, antitrust barriers only now since 2024 election do you see it going up again. the market is responding. we have a record number of people intent of this country and more in american history trying to seek credit counseling. how did they take out? that is biden's legacy and i guess that is bidenomics. >> ian: inflation trust that and things are more expensive in your pay does not keep up with inflation, what do you do? you put on a credit card or put in that. now you are dealing with two things and i can afford what i need to afford to have this at a cost to afford that, which is only further burger kneeing me. it comes back to a president so out of touch with what the american people are feeling. thus far looking around you see
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his party still doesn't understand that, most of them don't at least. they will continue down the path to justify what they have done and whitewash it as this is a great economy we produced here. >> harris: i think they understand but they don't care. >> old on a second, don't forget the biden administration wants . they are taking student had in getting rid of it but not in a smart manner. they are physicians, professors who have had that a race the last couple of years thanks to joe biden. but the people with credit card debt because they were not able to pay their mortgage during the pandemic, they are dead is not a raised. >> harris: julie, how do you think the politics and media react if the president to flout the u.s. supreme court because that is what you are talking about with didn't loans. the u.s. supreme court said no, president biden, you cannot do that. as he believes, that is what he is dripping behind him.
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joel. >> if this were president trump in office the media would have a field day. they would certainly not let them get away with it and so important about the country because the media has dictated the politics have dictated the elections. this is why biden is where he is now here to a lot of people made the mistake of listening to mainstream media and actually believing and buying what they were selling but they have buyer's remorse. i guarantee they will and those who did not vote for president trump, once they see it change, why weren't we listening to them? we were listening to them on people. >> harris: absolutely periods bid to that can be done in incoming especially, energy production. we will see the impact of that. >> harris: biden can do something with that and you can't fix everything and 38 and a half days. >> harris: he had five days to put forth those dozens of flips on trump's border policy. he can do that in a week. >> tammy: he wants this to be
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the case. >> harris: hundreds of dollars of taxpayer funded border wall, reportedly left to rest. i have seen this when you go to the border, you see where they stopped building and materials are set aside. you can stand there and the cameras catching people going through. you can't see everybody's face because so many of them and huge mile-long caps of the wall. >> what a crime! >> harris: our money just sitting to rot. the federal government rushing to get rid of it before trump takes off his. how do you hide that? he won't believe the selling price. they want to make money on the deal. ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ >> harris: just weeks before president-elect trump takes office, the biden administration rushing to sell unused portions of the border wall they let sit and did not finish. to the pizzas at the wall auction off scrap metal prices. and remember your tax dollars paid for all of this. william la jeunesse on the story with all of this, william. >> you will probably pay against but this debacle cost taxpayers a fortune. here is the irony as you allude to, this step sitting around for four years. i saw a new pile of light bulbs, cameras, pcp and steel fence back you met 2021. just four weeks before trump's takes office guidance selling the wall for pennies on the dollar peer to the border patrol bag biden not just to finish
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the wall that the olympic apps to help stop the migrants and he refused. now, where do we find it? the steel wall? huge sections trucked from the border to be sold for scrap. app auction yards near tucson even though president biden knows president trump wants to use it, he is selling tons of it for almost nothing, meaning taxpayers will have to pay twice the same material. according to the government website, auction website, biden taking bids starting at $5 for 40,000 pounds lots of finished steel. >> it is definitely a simple. i went out there and like i said, i saw it. i touched the panels and there is nothing wrong with these panels. >> this has been a mess from the beginning when the president biden stopped construction 250 miles of border wall and he took office saint immigration was not the national emergency. congress estimates biden paid
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$300 a day to guard unused material and 600 million to unwind and cancel contracts the government signed. now that he is selling it just before trump takes office. >> message to the white house right now, i will bid on all of that wall, and we will buy it in texas and give it to donald trump. >> they are sabotaging the incoming administration to make it difficult for us, but you know what, we will get it down. >> to questions, who approved it and how much fence is sold? 50,000 pallet and walked away from the project but good news after the report aired yesterday, they have taken down the auction web pages and may be scale scheduled for wednesday. back to you. >> harris: that is like killing a tweet. uas win-win somewhere. julie periods before you know what is not funny question my $300 million of taxpayer money
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left to rest. that is disgusting and what i think is disturbing for the biden administration is doing last-minute pardons fine, did that but you are costing american taxpayer money because we will be building wall sections and securing the border and trump will shut down the border. he will need those materials. ideal at $300 million of taxpayer money rust and rot? and then why wouldn't you preserve the materials? it is a slap in the face to donald trump at this is not about donald trump but the american people and protecting our borders. spin when i think it is about democrats, too because biden chiseling for himself is leaving a prison chamber for democrats. they have to fight their way out of what you leads the men from the pardons to this to everything that makes them look like a part of hunter biden particularly, makes them look so bad. >> i have a hard time wrapping my head around this move right now. if he did this for years ago,
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that would be a symbol he was elected in the presidency and they didn't want the wall they are. they just lost and lost badly in this last election because immigration was on the ballot. the american have spoken stating they do want the wall and they want immigration reform to happen. that $300 million for the machinery right there, and this is according to doge, $150 billion spent on illegal immigrants alone and 2023. so spending when it comes to this and that is why you say republicans coming into the office right now because physical spinning out of control as well as the crime. >> harris: a cold, that is an important example because we we know that tax money lifting up and keeping hold to the benefit of them that they were criminals and that they crossed illegal alien and heinous crimes across america. that is unbelievable.
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>> we can't get that money back and some of the people we pay for, we don't want them here. >> tammy: look for situation symbolic of the entire biden presidency. he has a bully. the entire presidency seems to be to punish us and punch us in the face every day and to tell us they controlled everything. till they will decide everything. what you think does not matter. what you believe about the economy, we don't care about. we don't care about crime. all that matters to you and donald trump, we will make course as a punishment to you so you never do it again. obviously, they got their answer from us that they will do it again and again and i can't. this is symbolic he has a bully and biden has been a jerk his entire time in office. this is a perfect example of it. >> ian: we've had pettiness before and clinton has taken stuff off of the keyboard. this is treasonous but not pettiness. you are making it difficult for
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incoming administration to protect americans from foreign threats that pour over the border. this is a scandal. this is not a minor skein gimmick scandal that major scandal people should pay attention to. this will result in more crime and less debt because the biden administration is engaging on this on the way out the door. >> harris: how concerned should we be this is the part we see? what other things are going on that will leave us in harm's way because of the pettiness and the bully nature that you talked about, tammy, at the current commander-in-chief. >> ian: if they are brazen to do it out in public you are right, what are they doing behind the scenes to make it difficult for incoming president trump and his administration to keep americans safe. >> they will be gone soon and that trump administration will not stand for it. >> harris: let's move on. the former stripper at the leduc lacrosse case confessed that she made the whole thing up. stay close.
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>> tammy: that 2006 duke lacrosse rape case, unsupported accusations and blind exceptions by politically motivated prosecutor media pressure can create nationwide fire storm. the three young men accused of the rape had their lives at the neck turned upside, arrested, indicted in the core public opinion in the case was later dismissed. now, almost 20 years later, the accuser said she lied about the whole thing. steve harrigan living in atlanta with more details, steve. >> this admission is certainly a long time coming. because all the way back to 2006, 18 years ago at a house in durham, north carolina, a party by the duke lacrosse team and this stripper crystal mangum
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that she was rapes by duke players. for the first time ever she said that never happened and she made up the story. >> i testified falsely against them by saying they raped when they didn't and that was wrong. and i betrayed the trust of a lot of other people who believed in me. >> crystal mangum was speaking from prison where serving 14 year sentence for murder. the case itself 18 years ago got national attention. the three white students are prejudged as guilty by the national median by their own university and by the prosecution. d.a. involved eventually got disbarred for holding crucial dna evidence era to the president of duke, richard broadhead suspended for three students and ended the lacrosse season. eventually after the dismissal,
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the three students settled a lawsuit with the president and duke for undisclosed amount. back to you periods payment thank you very much for that. this was something that was shocking at the time and obviously accusation of harris, this mass and now part of her explanation she did it because she wanted to feel validated to. this goes back to the idea of victimhood. romances 8 to romanticize station of attacked or hate crime against you. that is why she did it, in prison for 2013 murder of her boyfriend whom she stabbed and he died ten days later. a sentence 13-18 euros for that. what do you think makes her come back 20 years to admit what we all felt we knew which it was not true. >> harris: why this moment? i understand she is in prison for murder. i understand a lot of prisoners
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who were behind bars blind faith and so on and so forth, that she's known all along that she ruined the lives of three human beings and the beginnings have their dreams. how do you live at that everyday it's, in fact, you have a conscious to guide you to apologize to the world and you know it will end up on a podcast and all over the place. i think she is self-serving. i don't know what else to think about her. she has not convinced anybody. she could have told them i made it up and i'm not strong enough to say it but i don't want those men to go to prison. she is 40 years old and that could have donned on her a decade ago or two decades ago but it didn't. so i'm left with not believing in her. i know she lies. she is telling me she lies. how do i know -- >> you can't reason with on a reasonable. she actually tried to kill all of her children before her boyfriend. she let the house on fire with her three children.
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you can't reason with unreasonable and you can't get in the mind of someone with her mental health or not. to the fact she is coming forth now is great, that she has caused much harm to so many people. >> tammy: she wrote a self published book that said it was not true but she would not take back anything she said. at the same time a generation of these young men presuming this never happened. we are living it now when it comes to the issue of vict victimhood. what we reward in society and what people expect from each other. this is something even though it is late, that people could talk about more about the nature of what has happen in our civil society. >> ian: a blast from the past, stephen miller, incoming chief deputy of staff at duke was advocating, look, you need to look at the facts. he was ahead of the curve on that. we need to change it from there is value in being a victim to
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there are consequences for trying to do this. when you murder someone, you take a life. when you falsely accuse someone of the rape or sexual assault could do you take away their reputation. you murder their reputation. there need to be criminal consequences going forward for this behavior. you are destroying lives with falsely accuse someone of rape and sexual assault. >> tammy: people are thinking about perjury but the statue implementation is done at this . disbarred and the decisions made in this entire process. she cost the lives and careers have so many people in this and i'm glad you brought up the fact she should be held criminally lt think it is too late. there is no statute of limitation the fact she's coming out admitting she lied to. she destroyed the man, the lights of these three men with bright futures and duke university, you know how hard it is to get into that school? how hard it was for the parents
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to pay -- he did not recover. >> they are lives are forever destroyed. their legacy will be cleared up at a little too late. she should be held criminally brutally mike rounds only liable. >> perhaps time to have people validated by -- >> remember this is 2006 before the me too movement and step backwards for the victims and somebody should -- >> tammy: coming up with a goldberg accused robert f. kennedy jr. at that shaming everybody.
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>> harris: health and human services secretary nominee, rfk jr., accused of fat shaming after encouraging americans to embrace healthier lifestyles instead of weight loss drugs. >> most people with diabetes are prediabetic and can be cured with good food. if they choose to be cured by olympic, the government pays $10 the rest of their lives and with a fraction of that, we can get everybody organic meals three meals a day in the country. >> harris: so "the view" whoopi goldberg responded this way. >> this isn't just about food. this is sometimes people are born genetically larger. >> no, i know you didn't. >> i want it to say this to rfk question might. >> that his name. >> because you are setting folks up for a shame.
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that is what you are trying -- maybe you don't know but i will give you the benefit of the doubt and i will say you don't know and you don't realize what you do to people when you say stuff like that because it doesn't work for everybody. i will show you, server, because i weighed close to 300. less than two years ago and without the drugs, this would not have happened. >> harris: there is a doctor on the house today. >> well, as a radiologist, i see everybody's insides and outside's. and i can tell you the far majority of us are created equal when it comes to the inside of. whoopi goldberg said there are predispositions to people being overweight, metabolic and other spit rfk jr. is correct and i
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apologize, the truth hurts. a lot of it has to do with lifestyle factors. what you see in low income areas, access to help them foods is not they are neck and certainly not a portable. they don't get to go to the local market to get organic food but the high process cheap staff. that unfortunately puts us into the dangerous cycle of unhealthy eating. not because they are gluttonous or wanting to run their own health or body or lifestyles but that is what they can access and afford. >> harris: one of the questions i have about these drugs has to do with a mental health components that go into -- you mentioned gluttony, but sometimes people are emotional eaters. did these drugs help with that? my understanding they don't treat the underlying causes why use it with a box of oreos for four hours. >> him first of all most don't treat underlying causes but putting band-aids on bullet woun prevention and illness before it starts.
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these medications come with risk and i believe they are widely over utilized and have fundamental policy put into place to help people tried to live healthier lifestyles. the people who camp are taking the medications but changing their lifestyles and exercising, eating healthier but for a lot of people they are not. they are certainly not going to help the underlying mental health issues. in fact, investigating making mental health issues were seen taking medications. >> harris: rfk jr. on weight loss drugs now the first line should be lifestyle. that is exactly what dr. saphier is saying. eating well, making sure you don't get obese and those, many of the weight loss drugs have a place. >> ian: i don't remember whoopi goldberg upset with michelle obama's plan in 2010. it is always the person delivering the message for the left and the message. i think as we talked about, this
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is something that can be in large cases helped with lifestyle changes. not only by things like exercising, eating right and improve your physical condition and overall health but also improve your mental health. so for people that exercise regularly, they know this and they know when you have a good workout to start the day or a run or whatever, you feel energized during the day. if you are resorting my first try will be this drug or that drug, you are losing a lot of benefits mentally as well as physically. what you can do to preserve your life going forward. >> harris: look, i want to talk about the politics of this because it seems as donald trump putting different candidates for secretary and cabinet positions and so on and so forth, there is a national push. this can be put in that box, tammy, although whoopi shared her personal experience with weight loss spiritually asked in the fox poll would you confirm rfk jr. human health
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secretary as chosen? 48% of americans would, in fact, confirm him as hhs secretary, tammy. >> tammy: we have two competing issues society wants immediate results and we get upset when the internet does not give us what we want in five seconds as opposed to ten seconds. we want immediate satisfaction and gratification. the idea to go to the office everyday in getting up to do a run. plus, the number of americans dealing with mental health issues handed out like candy where you have got over 60% of americans on some kind of impact drug on our bodies, brains. which then affects depression and energy and motivation. so we have been given solutions to things as the cheaper solution. now you have got -- now look, you need to boost, that is great and a friend of mine took
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ozempic and said the noise about eating oreo stops with food noise. they don't know what else it stops. that is the other thing. the bottom line, americans want solutions and we know it is not working periods bill and that is fascinating. >> tammy: it is inspiration like someone like bobby kennedy. >> harris: depending how often and who you have in your life as a doctor guiding you, maybe it can shut down the mental part which is huge. >> dr. saphier: how do you have to understand that being overweight is not healthy and that disease rate in this country because of obesity. you mention in the break how covid -- >> harris: number one condition. >> dr. saphier: having covid being overweight. this is not fat shaming that wanting a healthy america that right now we have obese america. the number of people overweight astronomical. i too lost weight and i remember what it felt like to be overweight. i can speak on behalf of those
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with weight loss and yo-yo dieting my entire life. it sucks and it does not give feel healthier so get out there and exercise. that is what fans need to kids and we are raising fat kids and i'm not fat shaming but i see so many children overweight and that is so unhealthy. >> that bad backs up everything that it is very unfortunate what they are doing on "the view" and praising the medications. while they do have a place for some people there are serious consequences and in the last month breast cancer patients and chemotherapy is not as effective if on the medications. so we just don't know. we have to move forward with caution. >> harris: depending on who you have in your life as a doctor particularly important. i am glad we are having the conversation because i think it is important. i think when i hear drugs being published, i wonder because i know whoopi is working on "the view" because she has bills to pay, but i want to make sure
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>> mysterious drones expand across the united states and homeland security providing no answers. them on mouth county new jersey sheriff joins us today. a sharp decline in president biden's approval ratings. what could this mean for his legacy? stunning twist in 2006 duke lacrosse case. join us with sandra smith with "america reports" at the top of the hour. we will see you in 11 minutes. ♪ ♪ >> some restaurant workers in d.c. preparing for trump's next term and reportedly making plans to make him and his staff feel unwelcome and here are one telling the washington you expect the masses to ignore rfkg in a diplomat on a sunday
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morning after mimosa not to throw a drink in his face? that is nice. another fine dining bartender at this, "this person theoretically has the power to take away rights, but i have the power to make you wait 20 minutes to get your entree." tough guy but this retaliation is not new here to be this in trump's first office in 2018 and then press secretary sarah huckabee sanders thrown out of virginia restaurant, remember this, because she worked for trump? that seems fair and dhs secretary christian nelson was heckled at a mexican restaurant. watch. [screaming] mexican dinner as you are deporting tens of thousands of people seeking asylum in the united states. >> it was not limited to members of the trump administration but it happened to texas senator, ted cruz, as well.
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[chanting] >> let my wife through. democrat maxine waters encourage people to keep doing it, believe it or not. >> did you you and if you see anybody in that cabin in the restaurant were in a department store or a gasoline station, you stand proud! you push back on them and you tell them they are not welcome anymore, anywhere. >> harris, do democrats understand that hatred does not work? this as they are platform. it happen at the election and it did not win win the election and it will not happen here. >> harris: we have president-elect coming in with two assassination attempts when he was shot during on his life while running for president for the greatest country in the world in the last six months. so anybody who even thinks about
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threatening anyone, him or in his name, has got to know that that is illegal! like you can't do that! you cannot say -- and when it comes to food, many world leaders have the testers. i know vladimir putin has several. he would need them here to put up what i am saying is you cannot threaten an environment vulnerable eating what someone has prepared. not saying it could happen or what happens but i'm saying it could happen so at least one of those things i am saying absolutely. >> i hope employers fire anybody. i hope employers are worried about their business and politics because a relay, quite frankly you should be down to business want customers. this is plain stupidity. >> tammy: it is bad business because everybody gets afraid and you have activists preparing food for you in addition to the fact doge might be able to rely on the state to order food in washington. but a lot of the people should
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be concerned about having to get private employment soon in a city more affordable. that is not washington, d.c. this does not make sense when it comes to business and certainly doesn't make sense when it comes to the nature of criminality or threatening people coming into your establishment because the trump administration is going to look very differently at these kinds of things. it moves from the trump officials as we know to trump supporters to anybody who doesn't think like you. >> harris: emin biden's garbage? >> tammy: this is honest and sustainable for many businesses. >> it is incredibly ignorant because supporters, they are thinking maga coach extremist and far right but pro-america, anti-worldly and hard working class and they want the economy to prosper. you don't want those type of people and small business owners to prosper because that is exactly what the president ran on.
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small businesses, they are there and you need to help them and not hurt them. what are they doing in the country then? >> ian: i would like to ask the restaurant workers, is in it president trump that doesn't want to tax your tips? maybe you just pay the taxes. but go for it. let's look at what happened a target. let's look at what happened to bud light. you do that and twitter, you think it bothered anymore for videos that are true. your businesses will taint because at this and not withstanding if you go up and try to make start to harass people. you may be violating local law. this is not going to work this time around, but if they want to try that, they will face consequences whether legal or economic. >> first fat shaming and out tip shaming and that is so great that you brought that up that trump wants to stop tax on tips and this is blue cuddler workers and you want to harm them? >> where is the dei down our
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correct response for third graders. the spelling variant removes man from the end of the word. it is widely used in feminist circles. all hands for indoctrination? >> so dumb! >> harris: so-called alternative spelling has made its way into the merriam-webster dictionary, julie. >> oh my god, when then you can't say man or men. this makes absolutely no sense. this is ridiculous periods before they use webster's dictionary as an excuse and capturing entity that makes sense and move it through. this is absurd and should be removed. you can win a spelling bee by spelling things wrong. you can't make up words. >> harris: we are setting our kids up something short of success, come on, do better, mayor adams webster's. "america reports" reports now.
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