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>> lawrence: it's 8:00 a.m., wednesday, december 16th, this is "fox and friends." a mother calling for justice after president biden commuted the sentence of the judge who

put her son behind bars for kickbacks. >> he ruined my life, my son's life, multiple lives. >> ainsley: plus, new york will be able to detect the mystery drones plaguing the country soon. jeh johnson joins us with more. and after winning heisman as a bulldog, herschel walker is on the graduation stage and will join us live this hour. final hour of "fox and friends" for this monday starts right now. ♪ ♪ want to see christmas through your eyes want everything to be the way it used to be. >> steve: it is monday, december 16th, 2024, there you can see our virtual fireplace inside of

studio m, in the heart of midtown and manhattan. it is a lousy day outside, we're lucky we're not driving. slushy andin ray and feels like christmas. >> ainsley: i love that song. my mom loved christmas, a wonderful and joyful holiday, reason of the season, jesus's birthday. >> steve: when you put together -- over the weekend, i put up the tree, when you take all the ornaments out, it is special. we have two toddler grandchildren who are two years old. >> lawrence: and one on the way. >> steve: that is right. >> ainsley: peter is having another one, a fwoi t-- boy thi time. >> i saw that on instagram.

>> steve: the tree is prelit, our tree looks a lot like that one, it is not 50 feet tall. >> ainsley: you can do ornaments halfway up. >> steve: they are good kids. >> lawrence: have you seen peter's size, though. >> ainsley: probably the size of a four-year-old, not t two-year-old. >> ainsley: a sad story, you can tell it, her story people can relate to. people in high school go to a party and the cops come and bust you drinking. >> steve: her son eddy was sentenced to a prison term by a judge in pennsylvania for what ainsley is talking about. this kid should have gotten a warning or community service and wound up with jail time.

he wount up after that time in jail, he came out a different person and he wound up committing suicide. "washington post" has a headline. joe biden gave the kids for cash judge clemency, to maximize payouts, they gave kids harsh sentence, young people who should have received warning or community service would end up locked up, some younger than 13. the judges caused tremendous h harm. one man died by suicide, many youth became depressed and dropped out of high school. son of sandy fonzo, who joined us last hour. >> i was filled with every kind of emotion. hurt, defeat. now that i've had more time to

process it, it is more of anger. and just it is very deep ly upsetting and personal. he ruined my son's life, my life. multiple lives. so many kids have lost their life. joe biden came here and campaigned multiple, multiple times that he was joe scranton, he was one of us and he cared about our community and our kids and our families and that is just absolutely not true. he is not one of us. there need to be reform how overseeing of how applicants are chosen for these pardons. >> steve: this particular judge wound up sentence to 17 and a half years for essentially getting kickbacks. the estimate he made 2 million

in kickbacks. so joe biden granted him c clemency. he granted 1500 pardons, that is the guy perform the person she regards responsible for her son's death. >> lawrence: i'm floored by this story. one of my first jobs when i became an adult was being student advocate in juvenile justice system. the judge would often give second chances to kids. she was a tough judge. she used to be a school teacher. she wanted to give them a way out. i said what would judge gi lbreath say about this? she would say, this guy deserves to be behind bars because of what he did to the judicial system. it requires honor and integrity

and the fact he profited off criminal justice system is disgraceful and to further this, he got punishment to have president of the united states release him is you just terrible and this dpie, young man committed suicide as result of this man's action. >> ainsley: there are consequences for your sins. he robbed this mother of having christmas with her son year after year, unable for him to grow up and have kids and get married. he was caught at a party where there is alcohol. a judge put him in for profit facility. if he fills up beds, he was getting kickbacks, adding up to 2.8 million.

he gets all this money. how long was he in the facility? >> steve: eight months and served his term. >> ainsley: he couldn't look her in the eye, she said he was a changed man, never the same all because he was at ay party where there was alcohol. that should have been community service. >> steve: did joe biden look at the list of what they did? >> ainsley: he met the criteria, is what they said. >> steve: demonstrated remorse and was rehabilitated. >> lawrence: he caused our justice system harm. we need a president that is aware and knows what is going on. can't have staff running the white house and having criteria.

all of these offenders are connected to real people and all have stories to tell. part of my job was to assist with divergent programs, place kids in places to improve their lives. the thought, now i'm questioning everything and these were good people. i can't even imagine a judge getting a kickback over a program supposed to better the life of these students. i'm surprised and i got to be hon ev hon honest, sentence i never had a judge assign based ongoing to a party. maybe if they were drinking, assign to drug abuse program, attending a party should have been a red flag to begin with.

>> steve: usually you got caught doing that, next is the, go out and pick up trash for five hours or if it is not community service, keep your nose clean for six months and it goes away, but not that. unbelievable. >> ainsley: it is hard. >> steve: terrible. 8:11 in new york city and washington, d.c. and president-elect trump got a warm weekend welcome at the army-navy game in maryland. it came ahead of a big week for the president-elect as he is expected to sit down with the guy that invented amazon, jeff bezos. >> ainsley: r.f.k. jr. will be in meetings this week ands peter doocy joins us. >> peter: when ceo of soft bank shows up, he is expected to come with a commitment for $100

bil billion. a lot of ceo level meetings have been subtle. go google's and amazon's jeff bezos will be at mar-a-lago soon. regulations for ai and space projects. president-elect made a rare trip out of florida or new york to maryland for saturday's army-navy game. daniel penny was there, and tulsi gabbard was there, so was pete hegseth and ron desantis, rumored to be backup if pete hegseth does nat make it through. lindamcnann, will meet with senators and r.f.k. jr., hhs

pick has 25 meetings lined up with senators. the thing that could be tricky to navigate with republicans, long history of being pro-choice on abortion. key republicans will want commitment that he will not expand abortion access, that is what this week is about. back to you. >> steve: peter, at conclusion of many president's terms, they say, i was able to create x million jobs, president-elect trump is not president yet and you mentioned unveiling $100 billion in investments in the united states, that will create 100,000 jobs in ai and infrastructure and add to the tote. i wouldn't be surprised if trump put out, i'm not even president

yet and i created 100,000 jobs. >> peter: elon musk is close to donald trump, he has donald trump going to his rocket launches in texas and he's a big supporter of musk's businesses. there are people, interested parties want to get in there early. if you can be in on ground you level, that is what these guys are trying to do before january 20. >> steve: we got in on ground level of donald trump. every monday, he would call in and now he is news of the day. >> ainsley: people wanting jobs in administration and going to mar-a-lago. i was passing mar-a-lago yesterday and you can see cars that have to go through inspection. we were driving slowly over that bridge and mar-a-lago on the

left, they stop traffic when someone is going into mar-a-lago. it was packed. i don't know if club members or kissing the ring to ask for a job. >> lawrence: there is great excitement, it is crowded at these games and donald trump was greeted by a raucous crowd. they are happy to have the commander-in-chief there future and former, you have j.d. vance and tulsi gabbard, pete hegseth, daniel penny. >> ainsley: dave mccormick and his wife. >> lawrence: there are people in both parties that have served in military and looks like donald trump is only one willing to go to nonpartisan game. democrats have given it to him and another cultural moment,

mcdonald's, garbage truck, going to the barber shop or this game, donald trump appears and only one to show up. >> steve: got a great reception and in the history of this game and that stadium, i wonder if there has ever been such a collection of powerful people, john john thune, house speaker, president, vice president, elon musk, all those people in one spot talking about two things, one, the game. by the way, navy won. they are talking about future of america. just about a month, they are going to be taking over and trying to bring to america the things they talked about. >> ainsley: think about the wealth in that room, elon musk,

donald trump, dave mccormick is successful, politicians and people who run our country in different ways in business. talk about what happened up here a few blocks away, unitedhealthcare murder, we have new information about that. guy charged with killing him, luigi mangione, could be in court as soon as tomorrow for extradition hearing and you have defense funds established by supporters trying to raise money to help him with his legal fees. there is one that has raised over $100,000. go gofundme said no to having a site for him. >> steve: speaking of brian thompson, ceo of unitedhealthcare, on cover of "new york post," they have the cover says whacked deck. it talks about a little about how apparently the founder of

c comrad workwear is planning to sell a deck of cards of most wanted ceos and decorated with gun range targets. we are seeing, ainsley, people are donating tens of thousands of dollars to the accused killer's legal defense fund. a lot of people are sympathetic to what he did and we've been hearing over last week or two. the healthcare industry is not fair to people, everybody has to remember, maybe it is not fair, you never resort to violence ever. >> lawrence: bernie sanders was asked about this, some colleagues, aoc and elizabeth warren share his ideology, here is what he had to say. what i think has happened in

last few months is that what you have seen rising up is people's anger at a health insurance industry which denies people healthcare they desperately need while they make billions of dollars in profit. killing anybody, shooting somebody in the back, father of two, is outrageous, nobody should applaud it. i know senator warren did not. we need to ask ourselves why we're only major country on earth not to guarantee healthcare to all people, we have life expectancy significantly lower than other countries and why people die sooner than people on top. >> steve: terrible story. >> lawrence: i don't understand why this is okay, politicians and professors are teaching next

generation this is acceptable behavior. you can have criticism of the system, but punishment of ceo being part of the system should not be death. >> ainsley: right, a lot of people are angry or upset, you can't go and murder someone as a result. >> steve: more on this throughout the day on fox, we'll tell you whether he is extradited to new york. we don't know what are those lights in the skies over new jersey. dhs secretary mayorkas is ruling out one option. >> if we identify any foreign involvement or criminal activity, we will communicate with american public accordingly, right now we're not aware of any.

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>> steve: welcome back, the federal government continues to down play sightings of lights in the sky in new jersey despite w widespread public concern. >> senior administration officials want people to stay calm. they are frustrated with

irresponsible activity regarding use of drones. two people were arrested after drones were spotted flying close to logan international airport. the day before on friday evening, stewart international airport shut down their runway after faa notified them a drone was spotted in the area. most reported drone spotings are manned aircraft. but they have given resources to state police, dhs secretary alejandro mayorkas says they want congress to help address the issue. >> we are aware of the drone sightings, i think there are 8000 drones flown in the us everyday. we have certain agencies within

department of homeland security that can do that and outside our department. we need authorities expanded, as well. >> madeleine: schumer wanted an advanced drone system in new jersey and new york. thank you. >> ainsley: let's bring in jeh johnson, mr. secretary. does mayorkas know something and is not telling us? what do they know or do you believe everything he is saying? >> i believe at the moment our federal government is still struggling to figure this out. we have the law enforcement capability to track down this individual who apparently shot brian thompson in a matter of days. we can provide state of israel

iron dome capability to take down missiles from lebanon and elsewhere. we have capability to figure this out also if our government at federal and state level are focused and provide resources, time and attention, i'm certain we will figure this out in a matter of time. i don't find particularly helpful at the moment, the -- there is no evidence of or we do not know of because at the moment, there is not much evidence of anything other than what people like me are seeing up in the sky. >> steve: you have seen a drone. i have seen a drone over my house in jersey. >> well, the other night i was walking my dog and saw something flying overhead, i said, could that be a drone? i am under a flight path so it

probably wasn't. you have a bunch of people in the northeast focusing on things they don't normally focus on. of course there are sightings in the thousands. >> steve: understandable. you are always a great guest to talk to about migrants and immigration problem in the country and you have said congress needs to change things. when you look at it, "new york times" last week did an article and talked about how during biden years it was largest migration of migrants in history of the world in u.s. hiftly, two million immigrants have entered according to data and over 8 million during his term, you can see right there. as you look at the steps this particular administration has

taken, you have mayorkas saying the border is secure, but so many people who are easy to get into the country, it does not look secure. drone wise. >> americans want border security, clearly, whether you are in new york city, in manhattan like we are, whether you are on in south texas, border security is a legitimate government objective, americans have a right to believe and expect most powerful nation on earth can secure its perimeter. i have said a million times and on this show that to secure our border, there is a lot we can do ourselves, a lot government of mexico can do to secure our southern border. this problem has to be addressed in central america, in venezuela, in honduras and elsewhere or they will keep

coming and only so much they can do to put up defense to prevent this. we have seen numbers much lower, my guess, when president trump takes office, numbers will drop, experience shows during trump years as long as underlying circumstances continue to persist they keep coming, when he took office in 2017, they dropped and started to creep up, even during family separation period, you have to address the problem at the source. a lot of americans don't want to hear that, that is the answer, along withing working effectively with government of mexico. mexico can make a difference on our southern border. >> ainsley: a lot of illegal immigrants are already here on the terrorist watch let,

including the venezuelans. the da has said she is going to seek death penalty, listen to this sound bite and we'll get your reaction. >> we intend to seek the death penalty for the venezuelan nat nationals for the murder of jocelyn nungaray. within days of murdering andip raing jocelyn nungaray, we are seeking death, we want the message out there, regardless who you are, especially if you are in this country illegally, you will face same consequences as anyone else for murdering a child during the course of raping and kidnapping her. >> it is a heinous, horrible

crime, to me, an example of why we have to have enforcement priority in terms of people who cross our border illegally. i rather see our government issue whether biden or trump administration, obama administration, focus on criminals and putting them in jail, deporting them, tom homan, our future border czar knows that, he used to work for me. any administration has to have i priority in how we go about using resources to find these people before they commit h heinous crimes. >> steve: tom homan talked about, they are going to start deporting criminal element. as they should. and there is over million. if they devoted resources they have now, it would take three or four years to get rid of 1.2 or

1.3 criminal aliens, i don't get why there are so many here and biden administration drag their feet on it. >> what they have in place now seems to be working, numbers have been low. >> steve: over a million supposed to be deported and who knows where they are. >> it is matter of resources. continue to talk about mas deportation, turbo charges, sanctuary city movement, you will have city council pushing back on working with ice to deport people sitting in our jails now. i spent a lot of time talking to big city mayors saying come on, work with us to get the worst of

the worst in your jails who are undocumented and who should go directly from your detention to my detention so we can send them back. what happens, a lot of city councils push back on that, i will never forget talking to one city council member in one big city about working with us to deport criminals in their jails and she said to me, why, he's served his time. that is not the point. he served his time, he is undocumented and we don't want him to commit more crime. >> steve: that is the mentality. >> ainsley: it is, laws protect criminals. >> steve: thank you for joining us, he lives in t"the neighborhood." the neighborhood."

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president biden trying to cement his legacy by trump proofing the white house when it comes to his far left climate agenda, doing whatever it takes to guard laws in place, giving out $100 billion in clean energy grants on you, the taxpayer dime. rachel campos duffy joins us now. he is giving money to projects and plans so donald trump doesn't kill them. >> rachel: somebody caught a -- whistleblower caught a democrat saying it is like titanic and they are throwing bars of gold off the ship going down, to get in hand of nonprofits and groups. it is going to be the job of next administration to find loophole and get that money back and rewind regulation that is

h holding us up from making bridges and highways and ports that are tying hands of our economy, that is one main job. >> ainsley: what is your reaction when you heard lawmakers are against donald trump, they are upset kamala harris did not win and they are saying they are not going to his inauguration, i think we have a list. >> rachel: what bad sp sportsmanship, so ugly. i took my kids to barack obama inauguration, it is history and it was freezing. there are five stages of grief, last is acceptance and you are seeing some like senator fetterman and a few others accepting that trump won and this is where the country is at and you have a bunch of other people stuck in another step,

they have to go through more. >> ainsley: they are still angry. step one or two. >> rachel: denial. >> ainsley: pete hegseth is going around talking to senators trying to get approval and discussing agenda and seeing r.f.k. jr. doing that this week, going to meet with 25 senators. fetterman is only democrat willing to sit down with pete hegseth, here is what he said. >> it is an opportunity to have a conversation, not sure why it would be controversial to anybody. if he could be the next secretary of defense, we have received a lot of support and calls to our office saying, we have a conversation, i'm doing my job. >> ainsley: what is your reaction? talking about your co-anchor pete hegseth, your friend. >> rachel: how do you do that if you are not having a

conversation and talking to that nominee? if you have not talked to them, you outsourced to the media as opposed to talking to them in person. pete hegseth is so charming it will go well whoever meets with him. fetterman is not only one, tammy baldwin met with my husband, who is up for transportation secretary and she said she is endorsing sean, is there are some in acceptance phase. fetterman is unique, they are from pennsylvania, they voted for trump and shapiro. he is just that kind of guy. he calmed bs on all the prosecution of donald trump, he understands his state and

politics of his state and doing good job representing that by being willing to sit down with somebody like pete hegseth. >> ainsley: it is smart, republicans are saying, i like him now, i might not agree with all his policies, i like him. they want donald trump to work with the other side. >> rachel: and republicans want republican senators to vote way republican voters voted, many voted for democrats when they were nominated. when the president wins, they voted for mayorkas. they better vote for pete hegseth. >> ainsley: rachel weekdays at 5:00, noticias is where you will see rachel. thanks. merry christmas. we can say that now. >> rachel: it is coming.

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