[cheering and applause ♪ ♪ >> laura: good evening, everyone, i am laura ingraham,

and this is "the ingraham angle" from washington tonight. thank you so much for joining us. to that mess has been a bill that congress tried to run through before christmas may now be dead thanks to donald trump, a long mask, doge the campaign already working. my "angle" on that in moments. but first, it turns out if you leave the border wide open, criminals will come right through and start hurting people. now, we now know 16 of the men arrested for violent home a ration in aurora, colorado, were here illegally from venezuela. didn't donald trump talk about this and they are all expected of being members of the vicious gang, tren de aragua. to speak with the victims were held against their will. they were actually bound both male and female. they were pistol-whipped, they were beat, they were victimized, they were terrorized. speak with a male victim was

stabbed. the female victim, her fingernails were ripped off. >> laura: fingernails ripped out. isn't that the america you want? we told you last night's happened the same complex and the gang took over in the summer. >> they found bullets down the street full of holes to the cars and bullet holes to my husband's car, but it was torture and not just one night or when shooting and it wasn't one occurrence. it was a concentrated effort to run leaseholders out of the building. >> laura: well, at the time, colorado's liberal governor jared dismissed the takeover calling it local lawmakers imagination. in the media, of course, they were telling us, "that is all overblown." >> incidents limited to handful of apartment complexes and the mayor said dedicated police officers have acted on those

concerns. a handful of problems. >> only, martha, do you hear yourself? only a handful of apartment complexes taken over by venezuelan gangs. >> laura: he nailed it there. accords in in the venezuela i am a weight is not unique to colorado and don't think it is unique to that. 46-year-old pedro louise, legal status unknown was charged with three counts of attempted murder after he allegedly set his house on fire with his three kids inside appeared to speak of the two team place to live there told officers they were worried a 3-year-old brothers trapped inside. >> we couldn't hear anything and then you hurt a whimper and then it stopped, which is why i went in. >> laura: that little boy is safe, but that situation could have easily turned deadly in the same goes for aurora and these

other towns as well, incoming border czar time, you were in the program when this story first broke, and you told us, not only is this happening, bute across the united states and other urban areas and in the suburbs as well. wherever there is money or influence to be had, stuff to be stolen, the staff start happening. how serious is this and this seems completely out of control in colorado? >> it is and i actually went to aurora right after that. first where the lady filmed the gangs with tongues. i went to that apartment complex. i went to that neighborhood. bit is bad. and i also went to damper and lots of temper are bad taken over by gangs. and i told you months ago this will span across the united states and we are in 16

states now and some major cities. let's not forget laken riley and let's not forget the young lady and use ten. claim is much worse as girls getting raped and murdered. this is a big problem in this country and as you said earlier, he opened the border and a certain amount of criminals are going to come as a target. they will come here and did their crimes here in. but i can tell you this their time is limited because jan january 20th we will not only target tren de aragua that they will be a major priority from day one. >> laura: in colorado, it doesn't seem to want to work with the feds mostly you. watch. >> local law enforcement and district attorney, i am not an arm of the federal government. i am not a deputy of the federal government.

no one elected me to enforce federal law at any level including immigration law, and i don't intend to allow myself to be sucked into that role. >> laura: tom, a court in colorado dismissed other counties lawsuit against colorado when basically saying we will not be working with the feds because other counties want to work with you. but how are you going to work with people like that who stand in your way? >> well, look, we are going to do it. i don't need him. look, it is a shame makes that statement. his number one responsibility of has elected official is to protect the communities. we will pry prioritize right out of the gate. i find it amazing any elected canada or person mayor or governor or d.a. or whatever or police chief or sheriff does not want to help i.c.e. remove public safety threats from your community.

that is your number one responsibility! work with us but if you don't want to work with us, get out of the way. we are going to do it and you are not going to stop us. we are coming, bottom line, we are going to do it with or without you. >> laura: tom, we showed video of thousands of people coming and courtesy of the cbp app and they are basically walking through ports of entry, downloading the app and getting access to the united states. will you remove them from the united states? they haven't committed a crime here, but they came in on the cbp app and almost 800,000 people over the last few years? >> look, the president will shut down the cbp app right away and those who came in her role in place, prole in place will be canceled they won by the president. we will take action on the one spirit to, other people and it defines what that american

people voted for and they are bringing in thousands and selling parts of the border wall. and you are right we will remove those people. even prioritize criminals and national security, let me be clear if you are in the country illegal, you are not off the table. it is a crime to enter illegally. we will force laws in this country and we are going to enforce laws signed by congress enacted by congress and signed by the president. if you don't like it, tell congress to change the law. until then, we will arrest illegal aliens according to the united states code. a legal title and that is what we call it and we will seek them out and deport them. >> laura: the story today that the administration and i imagine you as well is considering expanding the use of ankle monitors for those who are in the country who came in over the last few years. experexplained that greatly ande they easy to cut off?

>> yes, they are easy to cut off. ankle monitors actually improve the rate of people who show up in immigration court, but we really don't know what the results are until we actually move on it. here's the deal, president trump hole and catch and release. they there will be a lot less ankle monitors. they were certain people significant medical issue we can't care for, may be but the use of ankle bracelets should decrease because this administration has released people by the thousands every day. we don't plan on releasing anybody. we plan on ending catch and release. i will wait and see how that plays help but catch and release will be a lot less people cashed and released. >> laura: are you going to put the ankle bracelets on people already here? that is a lot of ankle bracelets and i don't personally see if that is a positive tool for you all.

tom, thank you as always and have a merry christmas. tom homan the first aid is chicago where residents lashing out at me or brandon johnson. >> you because all this money to go to illegal immigrants, not harold washington. you are going to be held accountable for it. all you illegals, you will not have a merry christmas that mary deportation christmas. >> many donald trump. need to start voting different in cities like new york and chicago. you have 14% approval rating so the people is looking like they are telling you you were fired, man! >> can you do the job mr. brandon johnson? >> laura: how did mayor brandon johnson respond to his constituents? he threw them out of the mee meeting. >> thank you, please, restore order. may i have your attention, please, ladies and gentlemen, please go to your closest exit!

>> laura: joining me now, chicago resident fish on tinsel at the city council meeting. what is the biggest problem you are seeing with illegals in chicago right now? >> well, they are getting the resources all the american people in chicago and brandon johnson has given illegal immigrants over a half a billion dollars while people struggle in the street that not only that, he wants to protect the illegals chicago, illinois, illegally, and i don't believe that is the right thing to do as a mayor when you have 14% approval rating and then the people realize why our city is so bad. it is because they keep voting democrat. >> laura: which brings me to the point, it can't be more obvious in chicago how bad things have gotten. i hadn't -- i think i hadn't been to chicago and maybe three or four years when i went to the

dnc with fox crew to cover the democratic convention. they cleaned it up a lot, but it was different. it was a different place. you go to the south side, it is even worse. it has always been a little bit dangerous, but it is much worse. what is it? how did they lock down as many voters as they do lock down to vote for the democrats? >> well, me, personally, i think it is a generational thing. mothers and fathers and they tell them to vote democrat and vote republican and they are for the rich and for the white people, which i don't think to be true at all. i think republicans, they have their best interest for pete black people in the democrat started the kkk. me personally growing up i see the democrat party and you look at people like barack obama and it is just like not looking good for what they are doing to these inner cities like chicago and

new york. i just feel like this is brainwashing at this point. >> laura: what did obama do for chicago? hold on one moment, the incoming border czar, tom homan, is actually still with us, and he has been listening in on the conversation everything you happen saying. i think he wants one of your habits. can you tell tom directly what you need him to do in chicago professionally? >> first, i want to say thank you so much for joining me, tom homan. i appreciate these words with you. sir, i don't care what brandon johnson told you, please come clean up chicago tom homan. we need to. this place sucks right now. and like you said, and city because our governor sucks and our mayor sucks. it couldn't get more broader than that. i really appreciate you coming here and speaking to the people of chicago, listening to us more than our own they are. you are actually doing a better

job than the mayor when it comes to listening to us. >> tom? >> i was out there two weeks ago and you are right i said the mayor sucks and the governor sucks because them protecting the illegals in the city. the responsibility is to protect the communities. i made a promise that i would be back, and i will be back. when this operation starts, i will be in chicago. men and women of i.c.e. will be on the streets doing their job. i met with black pastors and meet the ohmic leaders of the community and they are on the same page. the only one on a different page is the mayor and we will commit to make the city safer. >> thank you so much, tom homan. >> laura: vashon and tell him we will check back anna a few months and will give you three months to see how things are progressing because this will not happen overnight. this will be a process.

if i know one thing about tom homan, he has unstoppable once he has the power and authority to act and i know that about tom very well. thanks vashon and tom. warning republicans about this last-minute spending spree. who is the real grinch here n next.

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♪ ♪ >> laura: spend a palouse there is. that is the focus of tonight "angle."stma if it is a week before christmas, it is time forio congressn. annual spending parta known as continuing resolution.p >> it isen supposed to keepr government operations open andei provide disaster relief aid to hurricane victims which i'm sympathetic to. ife bi you read the bill carefu, pay members for members of congress, and i am not making this up and expansion of health benefits. kinds of special interes stat ad poor funding and opening up ace new stadium in washington, d.c. it renews the global engagement center a key note to central industrial complex. >> laura: president trump weighed in on trade social saying any republican that would be so stupid as to do this and will be primary.

everything should be done and fully negotiated prior to my taking office on january 20th. now how do i know why congress hasn't gotten a raise in 15 years, right? they haven't gotten a raise and it's in this actual legislation. but did they deserve a raise? how many have made huge money trading stocks using their inside info? they dug us in a $37 trillion hole. bentle y senato senator schumer is happy. >> there are many good things in this bill that democrats worked hard for and achieved. hav democrats have insisted these agreements must not have cuts c and thisut bill has no cuts.tic. >> laura: of course he is ecstatic! f probably wrote much of it, at least the liberal goodies inside and all of those little i.e. bes in the text blowing up on f such as the provision thath

makes it easier for the government to conceal info about the rig january 6 investigations that is nice.d j.d. vance knowshe this all too well, it is a show game and he e process urging to a pass a temporary funding billprs without democrat giveaways.bi he also spoke at wet president trump once in the bill. >> what the president believes is a d we have supported so long creathat it contains a dead limd increase. that is what w>>e will push fore >> laura: tonight we can report it looks like the ngpressure may be working. the house adjourned late today and word from chad pergram is w thatil this cer is effectively doa. we will see. this is great news if it is.. now is the time to set the table for 2025. that is what trump and j.d. vance are alluding to hear. the voters want practical solutions on the problems bearing down on us.

nothing about this cer in theep process and arrived on the doorsteps is practical. democrats refused to go with aer clean bill and will they forcebe partial shutdown before christmas, then hope the republicans get the blame,ei maybe. but who cares! make them defend their a-game of smoke and mirrors.e right about now the same peopleh watching tonightis are asking wt is the reason for this yearly s last-minute spend pollutes? i will tell you why, there are 300 members in the house who like it this way. last-minute bill stuff a lot of. pork and no time to read it or defend it where deals are cut to spend money we don't have four projects we don't need. that is perfect. >> we are fundamentally unserious anmentd you can't shrk government and if you can't shrink government you can't live free. >> 43 days ago, america gave usn a mandate. way in the world days before we swear in january 3rd we work

with all the democrats to passtl all of this pork? >> laura: and you can't just plain democrats though.ep yeah, they controlleubd the sene and that is a problem, but plenty of republicans have gotten used to this game asth well. despite all the conservative footstomping about we need to stop spending but blow the whistle on institutionalized taxpayer theft.fo >> buried in the cer is pay raise fo wr lawmakers. do you think congress deserves a raise? not the way that it is acting. >>t. will you vote for the cer? itth doesn'tat send the righto message. we should cut spending everywhere. >> i was a n eo vote before i gt an airplane and came to town and knew what was in the bill.y >> i don't think we had done anything to deserve the pay raise. wecrea are the only job in the o arbitrarily to create moredchi funding and steal from our great grandchildren.fo spanned well, the ones votingl for they should get: they're

stocking the very least.more but maybe with trump back, more will stand up and they should. think about the american families and what they ddgeto wh youtheir budgets every month. if you are responsible, you give yourself a certain spend to spend on extras after you take t care of the essentials.ha if you care about credit rating, you don't spend more than you make it especially when you have outstanding loans that you haven't paid off. if you want to rest easy, you are not just spending either. you are sitting as well. but congress does not follow those common sense rules. but this madness cannot continue. for the first time, the interest we pay on the debt is more than we spend on national defense. yeah, edging up to $1 trillion s in interest payments! this is crazy town! trump's team once fully in charge will be wartime footing and yeah, i'm calling it wartime because they are battling to expose this twisted process and

give us very specific areas that need to o be cut. this time, trump will have the added help and the bully pulpit with j.d. vance, elon musk and others. the pressure on congress to change their ways will be hard to resist. >> johnson with a slim majority of this year, well, we will absolutely need the doge magic. going into 2026, g.o.p. needs to broaden coalition, but also, please... collect fiscal conservatives. as of now, too many have drunk the swamp water. that is a drink. we should call pat up in the bar. that is "the angle." eric schmitt and anna paulina luna. that would be a sellout in theed bars in d.c.ow posted again on tooth showed up endemic social before showtime,d continuing resolution is dying t can anyone imagine passing it

without terminating or extending the debt ceiling ceiling guillotine coming up in june?e he is right,on senator it will fall on him if it goes down the way it's going down with themp passing of legislation. >> thank god and president trume need this leadership and i'vere been here two years and this is just a disaster. >> laura: is that all? it seems like you've been here longer. >> this is what we do. it is so stupid and every yeare we get to the same place and people are surprised and we don't do normal appropriations bills. we need platforma real process. president trump went on a platform performing inoces washington and the best way is to reform the whole process, which is a mess. >> laura: here we go without the cream to have friends, congresswoman and you know it was coming and i alluded to itnh in "the angle." he said the g.o.p. has been ordered to shut down the government. >> i don't think that is the

case. ve nwhat i can tell you, this iy second term in office. you i never voted for cer but it is broken when congress pending on the cers or the things we doiate to get the budget balanced andsu negotiatedbj. we can go back to single subject spending bills but expecting president trump to eat ther th failures of the biden administration and intentionally putting debt ceiling negotiation for thidene summer to fall under president trump's presidency is what the democrats have engineered.e actually say we should shut down thlse government do single subjl spending social security, medicare paid for.un but essentially we need to holde ourselves accountable and assure the american people are getting what they deserve. >>unds laura: congressman tom massey sound lik muce he's pret fed up.te watch. >> athat much is this cer that f become the tipping point that t yoheu are not voting for johnso? >> the cer was expected to be 15

pages but it is 50 pages. 15 times worse numerically. >> laura: senator, how much worse as the bell than originally? i know it started 26 pages and ' ended up being 1,547 pages i think? >> this is business as usual. i have been fighting chuck schumer on enterprise. b this global in the engagement center, chuck schumer got up at> me and here. >> laura: that is why he is smiling. >> planted to censor conservatives and we should not be doing any of this stuff. president trump, this is ahe disaster so my hope is in and theyactu start from square one actually have physical responsibility. >> laura: ca cleaou bn bill coe be about 30 pages maybe? it could be pretty easy. you don't need democrats. >> we don't need democrats and congress isn't used to doingng this but we should be. s we have been advocating no

single subject spending bills a you know, lord to reset the house rules because of this is reason. at the fact is you have a lot of people andme m we know some mems are gettinsig threatened with community assignments if they don't vote a certain type of way and that cannot be tolerated, especially nowt?. >> and i make a point? we have a process on the floor to debate things. c >> laura: there is never a debate. >> chuck schumer spent zero time on the senate flooesr on any of these appropriation bills and for people at the end negotiate this monstrosity appeared to nobody can rear chd it and the pressure to get home for christ. >> laura: isn't it true wew wh never know who writes it?we in the room where it happens, wa don't know who is writing it anr they know the hands of liberal activists are in there.ve we know republicans get the thick on spending. but it is never an open process. at least since i've not beenerva here. >> open it up to conservatives>l in the room dealing with the

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what is the problem with that?ae they claim after all they don't want kids to access the site. joininritng me now brittni de la mora, former porn star, and britney, pornhub should be age verification on the devices instead of. but you say that will not fix the problem. what is really going on with the money they make from young people having access to porn? >> yeah, they are deflecting accountability by saying they don't want t dono follow a simpe law, which is age verificationy for porn. i don't know exactly what they are doing with are their money, but i do believe thechily are not oo protect young children. i do believe when they create content, they are permitting children to be able to watch ity

f58% of miners that have watchd porn for their very first time,- theyup watched it by stumblingng upon it through a pop up bad ano kiso forth. they were not looking for porn,i siporn was looking for them. i believe pornhub knows thaty because louisiana numbers whenee out by 80% when they put out age verification in louisiana. laura: one of luigi mangione's friends was on camera saying the suspected killer told him once that he, himself, was worried about young men steeping themselves and porn. what it was doing to relationships and so forth and evenwn his own. so that was, i mean, again, that is what his friend said he told him. by that, he was obviously at ond in porn consumptionn.hem.

and like even people who are in it see what it does to them. yet, somehow showing your license if you want to partake in this is a violation of your first amendment rights?ot really a? >> yeah, protecting children is not a violation of first amendment rights in any way. i believe ou gr government has n obligation to protect children. this content is not created with children in mind. it is created for adults. yet, there is no accountability for porn companies. it is absolutely ridiculous. if you str walk into alcohol sty you havecomp to show i.d. and yt onlinentab porn companies are nt held accountable. >> laura: britney, the rise of violent sexual conduct consensual conduct on college campuses and even high schools, you believe is related to the consumption of porn especiallyoo by young men.

we talked about that chokingd eu exercise "the new york times" has written abouiat and creatin. supposedly euphoria andea sexual activity buh.t thatn is straight from porn. >> i was in the porn industry for seven years.si and i woulved get extra money to do aggressive, abusive scenes like that. it is unfortunate when minors watch pornography, this is what h sex isrienence wit pulling hair, choking, spitting anfried then they try to have te sexual experience with her girlfriends because unfortunately this is sexual education to them.talk that is not what porn is for. i talk to girls after first sexual experience, they never want to have sex again because they were abusedthei. i don't blame them because this is what is filling their minds in teaching them how to have sex

d this is why education is not just mandatory but should be mandatory. >> laura: every state should have the same place and frankly whate. it's done to our young people, this is a federal issuea ndand interstate commerce issue. brittni, thank you for doing whatal you are doing and speakig out again. t the insane thingra ahead of it , and ncaa about trans athletes taking over women sports next.

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♪ ♪ >> laura: does charlie baker, the president of the ncaa, care about women athletes? yor u be the judge. >> your guidelines say that transgender student athletes should be able to use locker room showers, according to gender identity. here they are.h >>to everybody else should haven opportunity to use other facilities if they choose to do so. >> the burden is on the woman.th they have to accept it or they the women have to find another alternative. why is that fairs th?da we toltid the folks that they nd to create accommodations for thd people plaguing. >> laura: is it just me or i doess he come across as total punk. he is so dismissive.fear

joining me tomi lahren, host about kick. you get what i'm saying about him? he was annoyed to be answering questions and prettyg obvious questions that now apparently the onus is on female athletes to gncomo find a new locker roof they are uncomfortable that a biological male is getting undressed righi t in front of h. >> you know, lower, i want to believe my hearts and heartspr that it does not believe in this but unfortunately he is kowtowing to the radical lgbtq team movement and activist that control anorit that speak a very small minority of people that think this is acceptable. imagine telling the feminists the broad burning feminists of the 1960s we have reached a .192 but4 we elected -- 2024 we define what a woman as a independent motion if women do not want to share a locker roomr with a biological man, they

should either get over it or sek accommodation putting the burden if they feel uncomfortable. what happened to consent and what happened to the me toos movement and wharit happened to basiofc decency and women's rigi in integrity and women sports? unfortunately a small group of conservatives fighting back against this and it would sure be nicathle if email athletes ca get advocacy as well. >> laura: it would be nice to have a man in a position and i'm not as forgiving as you are,e tomi. the pressure is too hard to, but how about riley gains? you know what pressure she wasn't o rn to bow down to megan rippy no viewpoint that you can never question this. she said, no i'm not going to dt that and put up whatho happened with leah thomas. she came forward and spoke up. i think he would be celebrated if he actually stood up and s said, you know, i don't thinkan that since they are.tent i don't think this is right and

potentiall by dangerous for womn to be in the circumstance. i think we need man to stand up for women in this regard.of >> we dofi here till they willgo inalso be administration coming into office in a month's time standing behind integrity of women sports and men's faces.in yocou will have backbone and support from incoming t hiadministration from the incomg administration. theiadvobut i will say this, yot up other people and advocacy. ifth concerning high school sports, where are the parentssp anord where are the fathers? when it comes to collegiatewe sports, not only do we need to athletes to stand up and take t onus of thisha but where are th community boosters? you have so manye people that donatear to these communities ad where are you? there is no longer an excuse. >> laura: no, they are afraid theiger kid will not get into college or their boss will get mad at them. everybody is afraid to.d bewe not afraid! t

noom longer, trump is here and a have someones. else to answer t. tomi, have a great christmas and thank yo foru much. disney does an about face andan raymond arroyod with a fake tre debate again? yeah, "seen and unseen" is next.

>> laura: >> laura: i know on a sound bite we played from vad joe, they did not cut the sound bite so he said he was notd wo forced to enforce the federal ue and he would work with the government to get rid of migrants. fantastic if we can rid of the g criminal element, you will get my attention and support. george, the drinks are on mean.m asit is time for "seen and unse" segment, for christmas edition and two that we turn toem raymond arroyoen. that was a grim statement. disney in a statement doing about-face on pixar's upcoming

animated series "win or lose" a transgender story line? >> this is clearly shifting and hollywood appeared to in a statement to box digital, disney says when it comes to content fr , we recognize many parents woulitd prefer to discuh their children on their own terms and timeline. sense when, laura? over the last five years, disney has shoveled out adult themes lgbtq t themes in the film series. here is a little taste. ♪ ♪ >> we have now given ourselves a better chance at the future. >> i think it would be fun if we go to place or perhaps a date together. >> are you asking me on a date? >> no -- yes, yes.

>> great, sounds fun. >> anyway, that is my little ba way. ♪ ♪ >> look,is not this is not an af artistic choice on the part of disney. this is an active self-survivalm self survival now because everythingu you saw there and a lot of those movies give you a rundown like $106 million andl strange world $197 million at the box office and stopped 24% down in the last fourth years. they have to do something. >> laura: back to the ncaa president, why isn't he going up on capitol hill and this is ann outrage to female athletes. they are losing position, awards, spots on teams andis n privacy. charlie barkerot, why doesn't hd stand up and the job is not that important. now, it is time for the annual tradition.

annual real versus fake treee'll debate. i love a real tray.he but i love the smell, going to get the real tree. but make your case for the fake tree. >> you mean for the safe tree. i will, laura, artificial trees save the environment easily assembled, and they don't come with visitors, laura ingraham. this family in kentucky found donal undetected for four days. this florida woman found a raccoon in a war tree hiding yuletide branches. look i know what christmas we like to recreate biblical scenes, but the garden of eden is probably not what these people had me in mind. their snake came with a serpenti which took down their star. you don't get that with a fake tree, laura ingraham. the serpent stays on. it was slithering up the branch and rewind at home and watch later. real trees carry allergies.

dog lover, do you want to take fido to the emergency room bee choking on a pine shack? those that follow from the tree, fake trees don't do that. >> laura: i like to say the wordshat shatt. p thisin is once a year you get to say that.e would asyo true! >> make your case for the real trees. >> laura: they have noav natural smell. they are just there are. we have enough things that are sterile and fake in society. yoe u need the real life of christmas spirit to the life of life of the and the treeviro. your trees are not environmental at all. they are mad e in china, 90% of them. when i am finished with my treen nico and dema drag it to the- curbdo. he will wrap it up. do you put a hefty bag over and

e itthrow it in the attic? >> i put it back in the box. my question for you kind shatts for your dogs. and most importantly, here is the killer, laura ingraham, just listen to me.ve i what trees do you have in your house and be honest with your viewers. what trees are in the laura ingraham house and the o world wants to know. this is a court of law! for years,wh you had a real tray but what is there right now? spell it, i want to know. >> laura: i have a few notraha real trees, but -- >> artificial tree after all ofn these years. >> laura: no, t to bi m still f real trees but i don't want thep pine shafts to be eaten by my dogs. no >> todd: the government shutdown deadline approaching and