tv The Five FOX News December 19, 2024 2:00pm-3:00pm PST
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dana perino along with judge jeanine pirro, jessica tarlov, jesse watters and it's the five. before we get to the news, neil cavuto signing off after 28 incredible news at fox news. a living legend who reshaped business news and we want to wish him all the best and all of us know him and his big heart and his trusted voice. let's take around the table quickly to say a thing about neil. >> jesse: i've been here for 20 years and he's been here longer. and i was a little kid when i was in the newsroom and there was neil every day at 4:00, he's a workaholic. some people think he works harder than brian kilmeade to periods before he smarter than khim.
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>> jesse: what a great work ethic and i learned a lot about business just from watching him at 4:00, thank you and good luck, enjoy your retirement. >> dana: a big part of fox business channel as well. >> jessica: neil was where i spent so much of my first few years, he was always willing to give someone new a chance and invite them on his program. one thing that people here know about him but may be adult at home after you appear on his show the first time he writes you a hand written thank you note and i still have mine from the first time i appeared on his show. we will desperately miss you, he is such an important voice, unwavering and unafraid and the most generous and beloved boss to his team as well. >> jeanine: he is a good man and like jesse i have been here a long time, i think i've been here 18 years. neil cavuto is not only a good
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man, he's really smart and i learned a lot from listening to him. his work ethic is incredible, he had a five day a week business show, five day a week fox news show and on saturdays i would turn him on saturday mornings and watch him while he talked politics. he had the ability to transcend business and news and be really smart about both. we wish you well, you need a break and i hope you enjoy every minute. >> dana: you have earned it. >> charlie: always generous in the hallway, incredible work ethic but the highest component him he's a consummate news man and i respect that more than anything. >> dana: what a gentleman as well. from "the five," we love being right after you and so whatever is next for you we are there in spirit, keep us posted we will lure you back in somehow. let's get to this as well,
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donald trump already cutting guilt before he stepped foot into the oval. the president-elect reacting to the success in washington with lawmakers reaching an agreement to prevent a government shutdown at midnight tomorrow. they will be voting on that bill in the next hour. trump pushing for changes from an assist from doge cutting the behemoth from 1500 pages which is about half of jesse's book -- get it together, still available in stores wherever books are sold. trump celebrating on truth calling it a very good deal for the american people and says all republicans and even the democrats should do what is best for the country and vote yes. speaking of those democrats, they did not like elon musk's involvement in the negotiations and they are teaming up with the media to try to drive a wedge between trump and musk and crowning elon as the real president. >> it's speaker muscat right now. >> i think elon musk believes he is, i do.
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i've called him vice president, i've called him president, i don't know what j.d. is doing. >> he's the head dude in charge. >> unelected president. >> unelected oligarch governing my tweet. >> president elon musk will be exerting more influence over the house republican congress of -- >> some republicans referring to donald trump as vice president trump that is not going to sit well. >> they are going to have to get together and decide who the president is. >> dana: plot twist, chants of no are coming from closed-door caucus meetings which doesn't portend well, let me go to you, this is one of those things where you had a massive blow up by the time you get to the five it's all solved. >> charlie: i think the chance the democrats helping out republicans get this done is not going to happen, but all this
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complaining about elon musk -- he was not speaking, he was not leading the president around. he was talking about the things that regular voters who elected donald trump were concerned about witches taking a spending bill like this which should have been 30 pages and wound up being 1500 pages and they cut it back to 100 pages which is still far too long. it's not that difficult. i think it's funny obviously the democrats are trying to play these games, they're always playing the mind games, trying to bait trump into getting upset and saying he doesn't speak for me and i'm the president or what ever. everybody knows donald trump is the president. this is ridiculous. anybody spent any time with trump knows he's always in charge. i think what it reveals, the fact that he does have people like elon musk around, he's very comfortable having very
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strong-willed, strong minded people who are very smart around him and i think he also recognizes that you can -- the idea of giving democrats control right now when all you have to do is wait until the next congress and republicans have far more control to get their priorities done with keeping the government open, is a very smart, strategic play. >> dana: do you think your investigation on prime time led to saving -- >> jesse: and mike were to take all the credit, just half, it was musk and jesse watters. it went from 1500 pages to 100. they cut out some brutal stuff. electric buses? you're not allowed to mean? you get thrown in prison for neeming, they can put me in jail -- that was in the bill. they put stuff in there, they
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have molasses inspectors, they added inspectors to the inspectors to inspect molasses. $130 million. all of this stuff was garbage and they do this every year, every right before christmas they dump this huge bill on us and if someone reads it and they said this is ridiculous and they say we are going to shut everything down -- we're not going to not do it again next time and they do the same thing every time. johnson i don't know what he did this. he said he was going to stop at cummings that he was going to do things differently, he wasn't mccarthy, this is the same thing. he saved his height if they can pull things off. trump came out a winner, the taxpayers came out winners come all these people trying to drive wedges between trump and musk, it's because i have no power, but also i going to do? the democrats don't care if george soros runs their party, they don't care that a hollywood actor george clooney basically
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couped president. the democrats would have voted for this anyway, you think the democrats want to stay around during christmas? they have no power, they are fighting amongst themselves, the media is not giving them any air cover, where's the media here trying to make your republicans look bad? they didn't even need the media here. >> dana: you know him better than i do, but the whole idea that musk is somehow getting in front of the president, the media -- it's almost as if this is their new law fair, this is the new belief that we can bring trump down by all of these lawsuits and burying him in all of that and now it's as if maybe the path back to powers by suggesting he's not really the president. >> jeanine: that doesn't go to
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bode well for them, trump promised them that the american people who voted for him, the majority who voted for him and said we want all of this nonsense and we want this pork to end. we believe in doge, we want to streamline spending. they can talk about musk all they want, is not going to bother trump at all. he is smart enough and confident enough to know in order to get things done you have to surround yourself with smart people. this is where the rubber hits the road. i'm kind of surprised that mike johnson -- did he not understand what donald trump was saying? he's been walking around with him for the past few months. the deal collapsed because the deal was not what donald trump promised the american people. whether it's molasses or the global engagement center which is a state department office dedicated to censorship -- that's when they shut us down
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with censorship. donald trump is not going to support this and jesse is right, you can't say "1547 pages, let's get it done so we can all go home." those days are over. those days are over. now the government has to represent the people. we want to take care of the farmers, we want to take care of the people who suffered from the hurricane, we want to be able to raise the ceiling is not shut the government down but at the same time, people have to recognize there's a new sheriff in town. we are not going to do things the way we did them before and in the end if you voted for trump, this is what you voted for. >> dana: maybe in the end democrats might be glad this came to a resolution so they can go home, catch their breath and come back with a better attitude in the new year. >> jessica: i'm not sure about that i'm not sure how smooth this is going to be from here, there's a number of members of the freedom caucus who said they aren't going to vote for this
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because the deficit hawks when joe biden was in office have woken up and said no problem to the two-year suspension of the debt ceiling, chip roy has been a staunch supporter of president trump, now trump is going after him, mike pence is defending him, those are where the lines are drawn, who should we hang it, who should we not hang on january 6, what are you doing going after someone like chip roy saying where the spending cuts? the american public voted for streamlining that involves spending cuts which weren't in this bill, they weren't in the bill before and they are not in this as well. you say that people wanted this -- the richest men in the world wanted this. elon musk it did end programs that came out of it, what's your problem with a bipartisan cancer research program for $190 million? a drop in the bucket of what this is. those are the kinds of things that came out of this. the reason people are saying trump is the unelected president not only because the hundreds of millions of dollars he paid to get donald trump elected, he said he wasn't kicking up a fuss
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about the bill before elon musk got a b in his bonnet, he wasn't saying anything. than musk gets mad and floats things about bio weapons, labs, and the d.c. stadium thing which he got completely wrong and a suddenly is happening. i don't want anyone to have a day without their paycheck let alone during the holidays and donald trump suffered through this when he closed the government for 35 days over the holidays and his public perception tanked at that moment. obviously we don't want that but democrats, why should we help out with this? >> jesse: don't you want to go to christmas vacation? >> why don't you call it chip roy? >> jesse: i'm not calling him come i don't need to call him, they are going to vote, they're going to get home, it's over. 's before we got to go, a shocking new report on president biden's diminished mental state and when the white house started covering it up. ♪ ♪
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>> jeanine: who is running our country? that's the question everyone is asking after a bombshell report from "the wall street journal" blew the lid off joe biden's declining mental state and how the white house has been covering it up, right from the very start to. according to the journal, signs commander in chief was diminished stretched all the way back to the first few months of his presidency, with aids
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adjusting his schedule noticing and becoming tired if they want longer and he started making mistakes. so they kept meetings short and started controlling who he spoke with. like a good lapdog, the media aided and abetted the cover up. remember this lunacy? >> if you if you can't handle the truth. this version of biden intellectually, analytically is the best biden ever, not a close second. >> jeanine: i'm not even good to ask a on that. they say -- the 50 sources say they noticed in the first few months he couldn't handle things but do you remember using covid as an excuse for him not to campaign? not to get out they are? and to have the basement campaign? remember cars would be that they supported joe biden?
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>> jesse: they kept the covert structure throughout the rest of the presidency. he was treated like an aging dictator, an aging king. the same things they said about trump were true of him, he was isolated, he was out of touch, he was mentally unfit. people were keeping things from him. they wouldn't give him bad polling, they wouldn't give him bad headlines. he was awol during the lead up to afghanistan, people are trying to get them on the phone at key moments. there was no way to get a hold of the guy. he delegated his presidential powers to his staff. when people ask who is the president? it was his staff. his staff were executing the duties of the president. i think it was april 2021 right out of the gate, they were canceling meetings because he was having a bad day.
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all this conspiracy theory about joe biden's shot, he's a puppet, it was true. at this point we are going to find out he stole the election from trump, at this point the way things are going. i'm just saying come on the way things are going come i would be surprised if we found that. >> jeanine: the amazing part of it is that joe biden was in charge of the one cabinet meeting they had in 11 months. joe biden was the one who campaigned in 2020, she out campaigned her husband -- jill biden is the one people had to go through to get to -- they had to go through jill to get to joe, why was she so desperate for this? >> charlie: we don't know, i guess it was because she was desperate to cling to the white house and to remain relevant and remain in the white house because we don't have any other better answer the
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match. obviously this is all joe biden's responsibility, he's the one that allowed this to happen but she bears a lot of responsibility for allowing it to happen to her husband. it's embarrassing, it erects whatever legacy he might have had to. he leaves office the most unpopular president in the history of polling. i also think -- i hope the people around him but lied to him, lied to us, lied to everybody and kept this weekend at bernie's charade going on all this time build escape scrutiny and people don't forget what they did to us. all this destroying democracy and taking democracy away, than actually having the person that got elected, they lied to him, they shielded him from outsiders. they lied to him in the campaign, they were lying to him about the posters, about the polling. they wouldn't let him talk to
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his posters, even he didn't have any idea how bad things were going into the summer. there's a lot of blame to go around for everybody, joe biden is most responsible but i hope nobody forgets what these staffers did to undermine democracy. >> jeanine: the interesting thing is before joe biden spoke to the special counsel robert hur for one week, he would spend three hours every day prepping and the only thing we got out of it was he said this is a friendly guy, elderly man with no memory. this was the point where vladimir putin goes into ukraine, hamas attacks, where joe was funding iran which is then funding hamas, it's one of the darkest periods in american history. joe was still there cling to power in the last five weeks or
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whatever it is, what you think he's trying to do now? >> dana: i have thought that occurred to me and let me use my words to see if i can get can get about. when the robert hur report came out there was fury from the white house that merrick garland let it go out. i have to wonder if merrick garland made sure it went out, so that he at least would have been like we are trying to tell people, this is what was happening. one of the things in the article is that they scripted his interactions with his defense secretary lloyd austin, no wonder he had no idea lloyd austin was missing in action for three weeks, they never spoke anyway. if they did it was a script. it's not a call center, he didn't have a way to communicate directly with his treasury secretary. no wonder they never talked about inflation as a problem for americans, you are the chief of staff saying it was a high-class problem. then you think those historians
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who would visit the white house including writing speeches for joe biden, telling him you could be bigger than fdr. they were trying to have historical analysis, they were trying to make history with somebody who could make his own decisions. think of these people also. any linsky of "the wall street journal" wrote a piece to go weeks before the debate between biden and trump with a charade is exposed in the white house came down on her like a ton of bricks. she has said "i wrote this not because i wanted to make -- hurt joe biden, it was more in sadness than anything that i'm having to write this, i have 40 sources and i will never forget that, the spokespeople for the white house trying to destroy her reputation in her life, what sweet justice for any linsky and her cowriters there. the last thing i will say is kamala harris is complicit in the cover-up. >> jeanine: exactly, that's where i was going to jessica. what happened in this white house was something that i
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don't think america has seen ever. we all knew what was going on, we sat at this table and thought about what was clearly the cognitive decline of a bobbling, dithering man. then we were like kamala is great, he's really great as or anything about that you would change in terms of the democratic party? should they have done something, should they do something now? >> jessica: i don't think there's anything to do right this second, i think strategy will obviously be different going into future elections. i think people are going to be much more skeptical of what they are being told by people that are close to candidates. this is someone who throughout his career who has had a very tight inner circle. the extremists of that seems unprecedented from looking at the disk. this article is good to be tough for people to ignore because it's so well sourced and reported to. is not someone saying, i saw
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joe biden walked in the wrong direction, this is a lot of people and they have a lot of people on the record going both directions of it. democrats saying things like " -- i think it was senator heinrich, he spent more time with president obama than he did with president biden and he was much less senior then. he just came in and he was giving him much more time. there was more of an openness. this is consistent with what i think a lot of people feel on the level of the trail that democrats and myself included under estimated average voters feel about it. it's one thing to say these are accomplishments and i think a lot of people feel pretty positive about certain things the administration did but they wanted both. they wanted to candidates and they wanted the accomplishments together and it's very clear that the biden folks could have avoided a lot of this if you dropped out of the year in advance and said we are going to
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have a primary. if kamala is the winner which i think is feasible, fine. that somebody else, that's good too but you have been noticing as well, folks who worked on the campaign do interviews on "pod save america" or there was a forum and tony fabrizio from donald trump's team, they are not giving satisfactory answers to democrats, it feels like there is no apology is to be made him i would have done anything different. >> jeanine: it is unbelievable, it's pretty awful. pretty dark. back in american history. coming up, we've got fani fani willis, she's good have more time for her lover boy after getting tossed off the trump-georgia case. ust take carf . . families never receive a bill from st. jude for treatment, travel, housing, or food, so they can focus on helping their child live.
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[laughter] >> charlie: take a load off, because you're off the case. a georgia state appeals court has booted of fulton county d.a. fani willis and her entire team from president-elect trump selection case but the indictment still stands. the court citing her appearance of impropriety thanks to her soap opera worthy of fair with ex-special prosecutor, who could forget this? >> no, no, this is the truth, it is a lie! your confuse, you think i'm on trial, these people are on trial for trying to steal an election in 2020, i'm not on trial no matter how hard you try to put me on trial. a man is not a plan, a man is a companion. as you know mr. wade is a southern gentleman, me not so much. >> charlie: the whole team gets kicked off the case but the case still stands. >> jeanine: i have a feeling the case is going to disappear.
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they have several options. the court made the decision to throw her off, throw her team off, for the office off and in a case like that it may go to another office, within a particular region. may be the chief administrative judge will do that but honestly i just don't think a prosecution of a sitting president if they have to start from the beginning makes any sense now. i just want to talk about that woman, that woman is an embarrassment to me. for her to walk in to that court room like that as if she's in charge, pointing her finger at the judge and everyone else, she would've been taken out the paddy wagon, i never would've tolerated that in the courtroom. at the circus down there, that's it, the whole case should be thrown out. they were corrupt, $654,000, she gives her lover, he takes her on vacation, then she says i would give the money back but it's from the cash -- where do you get the cash? you work for the state.
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that's all i have to say. >> charlie: back in june fani willis claimed the reason her case was falling apart is because she's a black woman. when you look at it now in retrospect, that argument doesn't hold up, does it? >> jessica: seemingly not, sometimes it's not what's best to lead with and there has been a disappointment in her handling of all of this and her team especially because there was such clear evidence in the indictment, donald trump calling brad raffensperger up and saying "find me thousands of votes" that i didn't turn. >> jeanine: it wasn't quite like that. >> jessica: or trump -- >> charlie: which is not a legal. >> jessica: what rudy did to those election workers? $148 million or something like that? those are real things that happened.
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obviously people are going to do whatever possible to make sure donald trump doesn't face these trials. aileen cannon throwing aside that case again not because of the evidence -- >> jeanine: she follow the law. >> jessica: then why are there special councils that have been appointed? >> jeanine: because she followed the law? >> jessica: why have there been special councils appointed because jack smith is the problem. >> jeanine: because he's nuts. >> jessica: he's nuts defense. i think i'm done. >> jeanine: they told me to let you finish. >> jessica: whoever said that, amy it was probably you. >> charlie: as more and more evidence piles up that shows a really was a connection between the joe biden white house and the prosecutions all over the country. >> jesse: they are suing fani willis to turn over the email to show she was in cahoots and she won't turn over the emails. she's probably stupid enough to
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write down "colluding with the white house." she's hiding it that she's going to be held in contempt if she doesn't turn this over? >> jeanine: put the cash in the box. >> jesse: i'm looking forward to that. she was runner-up for time person of the year for me. shamelessness, the poor grammar, the poor pronunciation, the inability to grasp the basic geography. i think she only has to go routes for the career. she could either be mayor of atlanta or real housewife of atlanta because she has all of the qualifications. i'm going to miss her, i loved her. not in that way, jessica. not in the way wade did but i appreciate fani from a television perspective. >> charlie: maybe she gets a pardon, we'll see. >> dana: from biden? >> charlie: it is interesting
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all of this is playing out at the very moment were president-elect trump wants to start cleaning house at doj. that kind of gives him an upper hand. >> dana: absolutely. imagine being fani willis. she thought she was going to be a part of taking down donald trump and she orchestrates the case and gets the mug shot. she thinks the mug shot is going to take him down. the mug shot makes it more popular. then she was kicked off her own case for criminal activity. shakespeare could not have written it better. >> charlie: it's so true, i have always believed that shakespeare was still alive today, he would -- donald trump would be his favorite character, he would rewrite all of his plays, all of his histories, all of his comedies and donald trump would be from king lear, all the way to falstaff and -- >> dana: look at that, shakespeare. impressive.
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hats. can you tell tom directly what you need him to do in chicago. >> please i don't care what brandon johnson tells you, please come clean up chicago, illinois, we need you tom homan. you are doing a better job than the mayor is when it comes to listening to us. >> jesse: from the television production standpoint, that was genius. >> jeanine: apparently the guy with a hat on had just left, laura did a great job of. i have to be quick here but this is your ordinary american saying i'm fed up and i'm tired of paying for these people get them out of here. >> jesse: who was just saying -- i called trump to get on the phone can be can get any cabinet official you want to speak to the people. >> dana: she still said no to an interview but at least i got to talk to him which the access
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doesn't matter. broken record on this, corroborating with tom homan would be hugely popular amongst regular rank-and-file democrats who live in these cities and it's going to be harder and harder throughout trump 2.0 to people to poke fun at folks like the gentleman who was on their wearing the monica had to say this is the one black guy from chicago that likes trump because we did see this swing in his direction. you're going to have to pay attention to what traditional democrats are feeling in this next four years. >> jesse: if you have a face tattoo and you're here illegally, you're out first. >> dana: front of the line. put them in the paddy wagon. you have to feel sorry for people trapped in a bad governance. you don't know what the straw is
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going to be that breaks the camel's back in california, it was shoplifting. they finally voted to peel back that proposition. in chicago and new york as well, it's the migrants it's a huge problem. >> jesse: he's doing weddings in bar mitzvahs now. >> charlie: i love that the moment, it's a perfect encapsulation of the entire trump political career. it's interesting that anybody is coming back around the idea that this is a problem and we need to do something about it, especially in places where democrats claim to care the most about people. let's not forget that for eight years, we had to listen to constant accusations of donald trump being racist for wanting to do it. >> jessica: we're not done. >> jeanine: we went through so much, we complained about joe biden we were called ageist or haters. that's what they do, the democrats. >> jesse: we have gone through
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>> jessica: we are not monkeying around here. really big monkeys are terrorizing the community in florida, police are urging residents to exercise caution if they encounter ones of saying do not feed or approach these animals. judge, you used to want to have a pet monkey, right? >> jeanine: i did but then i realize they are crazy, they poop and throw it at you, they do that, they do. that is a big monkey come i want approach that thing i want no part of it, he scares me. >> jessica: how are the monkeys they are? >> charlie: my question is how was it -- it is kind of amazing we don't have native monkeys. we have the perfect climate, we have all this wilderness, florida is a perfect place for monkeys to take hold.
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>> jessica: i think they are in there and i'm just not reading the packet, sorry, i didn't know that. >> dana: what are you supposed to do with your dogs if your dogs are in the back and a monkey shows up? i'm pretty sure monkeys don't like dogs. >> jeanine: definitely not. my dogs would go after them. >> dana: and then they would be in town. >> jesse: who do you think would win in a fight, a dog or a monkey? >> jeanine: my dogs would attack them. >> jesse: i'm betting on the monkey. >> jeanine: they fight anything with an animal with four legs. >> jesse: if the monkey got a hold of the dog from behind and put it in the choke position and started gouging its eyes -- >> jeanine: then i would shoot the monkey. >> jesse: what if you missed it had the dog. >> jeanine: it's nonlethal. >> jesse: are you working for verna?
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>> time now for "one more thing." i love the wildlife photo winners every year. this is a stuffed squirrel that took the top spot in this year's annual contest. and then, of course, we have the man as it flaminca. a praying mantis. a good photograph. the crashed on landing. that must have hurt. and then the unexpected roll swap for aaquatic tickle species award. the fish chasing the eagle.
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i love photography. congrats to everyone who won. >> judge jeanine: my new fox nation special is dropping today. you don't want to miss it. scott peterson the appeal of a convicted killer. it's been more than two decades since he was convicted of killing his pregnant wife lacy pregnant of 8. he has maintained his innocence backed by a new team of lawyers. could scott be set free? watch my brand new special. see my take on this historic case. >> dana: interesting. >> judge jeanine: thank you. >> dana: jesse? >> jesse: we have been showing you what the drones have been doing in new jersey. this is what they have been up to in texas. much more productive in texas. more entertaining. >> dana: severing bigner texas. >> jesse: not shooting at them. "jesse watters primetime" also
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cheered and gained. johnny asked people about christmas. watch. >> what was jesus' profession? >> a waitress? >> well, he was a guy. >> that would be a waiter? ha ha ha ha. [laughter] very devout. >> dana: jessica? >> jessica: okay. so a 20-year-old blind cat was rescued after getting stuck on a piece of ice floating on a lake. fortunately a passersby spotted the frigid feline 40 feet from the shore in western massachusetts. the ice cracked before animal control could get to him. a good samaritan paddled out in a row boat and plucked the cat from the water quickly getting him warmed up and veterinarian care. owners reached out to identify him missing owner tiki and brought him home. >> dana: that cat has nine lives. i hope that was just the eighth. charlie? >> charlie: homeowner in up state, new york did a little gardening and discovered something that seemed like a rock. it turned out to be a perfectly
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intact prehistoric mass that done jaw. not only a relevant preserved jaw piece of a toe bone and rib fragment. mass that dones lived up there until about. >> judge jeanine: where? >> charlie: up state. >> dana: in he will myra. >> judge jeanine: no it isn't. where is it? >> charlie: i guaranteed you mastodons in manhattan. >> dana: true or fake news. >> totally true. they are fossils. yes. this is a blast from the past. >> dana: would you want to find on your property and now all the guys come? >> i wouldn't tell anyone. >> dana: keep that yourself. that's it, everyone. have great night. hey, bret. >> bret: hey, dana, judge wants specifics. she wants to know exactly where it is. if you could just give her the details, charlie, we
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