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these many years and offered a very generous opportunity for me to stay years more. that's pretty amazing. watergatener summer bummer for embattled white house all over again. >> bret: his last show today on fox. really going to miss neil. a true gentleman, a trailblazer in our business. and i have been dog to him for years here on this airwaves. and he is a true friend. i wish him all the best. tomorrow on "special report," the next sentence in the government funding drama. remember, if you can't catch us live, set your dvr 6:00 p.m. in the east, 3:00 p.m. on the west coast. can you follow me on instagram and x at bret baie thanks for enviolating us into your home tonight. that's it for this "special report," fair, balanced and still unafraid. we wish neil the best. laura is up next. ♪
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>> laura: welcome to washington. my angle in moments. congress' pork filled spending bill went from 1500 pages to 116 pages. in just hours. and tonight even that appears to have failed. go live to capitol hill where fox news congressional correspondent chad pergram. i have been watching you, chad, this is the super bowl for you every prechristmas. it seems like this is what we are always doing. what is the very latest that you can tell us? >> well, they just defeated this bill, which was the new interim spending plan that house speaker mike johnson put out it. would have funded the government for three months. president-elect trump was behind this. it had $110 billion in disaster aid. and this needed two thirds to pass. and they weren't even close to getting that. i mean, there were significant number of republicans who voted no. in fact, it didn't even get a majority, had they done it under the regular process here. i looked back through the list. there were more than 30 republicans nos on this bill. and i look at this. you had debbie lesko.
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thomas massie a member of the rules committee. you had andy ogles, eric berlinson. two democrats voted for the bill policy gluesenkamp perez. one of the most conservative democrat in the house represent as trump district and sometimes votes against her party. one member voting no -- another member voting yes. this was kathy caster. now, she is a democrat from florida. her district was hit bad by the hurricanes down there. and she really wanted this disaster funding. and then there was one present vote that was marci kaptur who is a democrat from ohio here. the fact this went down after president-elect trump put his imper matter behind. this you might quibble with what mike johnson had before failing to read the room or whether or not he was dialed in or who was to blame there earlier. the idea that you had president-elect trump jump on this bill and couldn't get enough republicans to support this. republicans will turn around and try to blame this on the democrats and say you voted no.
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almost all did. democrats whipped no. they said republicans reneged on their agreement that they worked out for months, frankly, to get this together. and important point that i want to keep coming back, to laura, i said this on bret baier's program just a few minutes ago is that on every bill to fund the government or raise the debt ceiling in this congress, even though republicans have been in the majority, the democrats have made up the difference. you have had swathes of republicans vote no and the democrats have kind of carried them across the finish line. well, democrats after, you know, elon musk, ramaswamy, president-elect trump whoever you want to blame for whamsd in the bill and the changing shifts in the house republican conference yesterday, is the democrats weren't going to help because it was not their bill. it's not what they negotiated. the question is now whos has the leverage. joining me now texas congressman chip roy, member of the house budget committee.
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now, congressman. >> trump comes out for it. musk, advance advance, rams, many others. you thought it was a dereliction, ultimately i want to congratulation elon and vivek and those who made this bill go from 1550 to 116, a lot of wins and a lot of stuff out of there. can you do a lot of the damage in 116 pages. this 116 pages still continues to spend $110 billion unpaid for it. adds that much more to the debt. importantly it, increases the debt ceiling. something on the order for two years something on the order of $5 trillion no structural forms to reduce spending. we need to have structural reforms if we are going continue to crease the debt ceiling. i agree with the president. we need to get the debt ceiling
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off the field congressman schumer but we need -- >> laura: i get you. but, again, if the house can't pass anything, then schumer has all the leverage here. i'm always about what the art of possible, what is really possible. you are right about this, this is a scam. i'm going to get into this in a few minutes, the fact that keeps happening is a complete fraud upon the american people; however, you don't have the votes. and the republicans have done this routine both on the spending side and the oppositional side for years to what end? has the budget deficit gone down? has the debt declined? no and no giving schumer the leverage here and perhaps hurting the incoming president who will have his hands tied if this debt ceiling, which i hate, too, is not lifted for a period
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of time? >> well, look, i certainly think we ought to be able to reach an agreement. i spent all last night into the night and this morning meeting with my colleagues. we put together some solutions we thought would work. we believe we can move a debt ceiling increase on a reconciliation package. deal with the fence, deal with the border and give the president exactly what he wants. do you know what the problem? appropriators. you know the problem uniparty republicans. what i refuse to do is take it on the chin as a conservative freedom caucus member on the budget committee who wants explain. because the big spenders get their way. doge is no good. if congress sits and does nothing. and i'm sick ever the same old. my children, i have missed them every day. i was on my phone my son a minute ago. when i went through cancer 12 years ago i promised them i would fight for everything to save this country. we are not going to do it by adding more debt. i'm tired of the same people in this town doing the same old thing and racking up deficit spending, the president needs a better congress than this. we need to change. no more status quo.
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>> i understand you. but you are going to have an even slimmer majority next year which i s. i believe why trump, room and put into place his priorities next year not that i is he going to raise the debt ceiling every few months. but blow the spending every few months, but that he didn't need that damocies sword hanging over his head. isn't that the case? you don't believe he. >> we could have done that we could have offered it. who would have -- conservatives in the house would. >> leadership didn't do it? >> i get you, i understand that. >> why should our children take it on the children the this
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strategy has never produced what you say you want. what you want is and i agree with you, ultimately the goal is you have got to cut spending. you have got to get this budget deficit under control and have you got to show the american people that you are serious. i totally agree with you. how does what you are doing -- what you did tonight voting against this get us any closer to that? >> well, because what we should do is go back to where we were this morning. before they decided to pull the rip cord on our talks to do what we should do, which is use reconciliation with majority republican vote to pass a responsible increase in the debt ceiling with the kind of spending cuts that from in place in reconciliation. that's all we asked for. we asked for guaranteed spending cuts so that we could make sure that all of this is paid for. that's it. i don't think that that's that hard. every republican should support that and the republicans who oppose it they should answer for why this bill failed. >> i think we are -- it's going to be even worse, things are did worse not gert. congressman.
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thank you very much. >> laura: that brings us to swamp games. that's the focus of tonight's angle. >> laura: as i just said, we have seen this spending charade before and the d.c. can a runt democrats they usually win may t actually win this time it. may not be able to ram through the usual last minute bloated yuletide spend aroo. even after all the messiness of today crew could read the bill. they were betting on everyone just wanting to rush to the doors for christmas. but what happened was social media, as social media used for best purpose to reveal horrors that chip roy was talking about within that bill.
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>> we talked about it last night. but, of course, the democrats when this was all unraveling, when they didn't respond by defending the bill itself: all they could do is find a new villain. >> welcome to the elon musk presidency, clearly what elon musk wants, elon musk is going to get. >> president musk to come in at the last moment and blow up the deal. >> a nonelected billionaire, elon musk has weighed in now and has put forth a message on twitter from his phone that it's okay to shut the government down and to disregard the bipartisan deal. the public is not going to tolerate that. >> of course, none of that holds at all. and i will say this when you are going to after one private citizen, even if it's musk with all of his money, for exercising his family rights, you have no
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argument. and any attempt to pit musk against trump is just stupid. it's goofy. the truth is the democrats have lost control of this narrative and the% strings. and whether you have lost that, have you lost everything. their old playbook of intimidating republicans to blow billions on wasteful projects. it hasn't worked. despite their best attempts today. >> look at the disabled community, right? like i think people with disabilities have an activist within that space have consistent bely been saying i am never. >> laura: obviously we are talking about fat cat spending, we are not talking about that. but that's how they mix that up. well, those lines of attack though are no longer potent. when americans are kept in the loop on the dirty details of legislation, or what they claim to be the best thing for the american public, we saw it also happen during covid, what eventually happens and sometimes now faster than everyone would
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like, but the american people start ignoring the liberal spin. and then they reject the shakedown. that is awesome. now, viewers of the angle were familiar with this con, even from establishment republicans when they tried to pull it. remember they went after us at the angle and donald trump after that for targeting that disastrous bipartisan infrastructure bill? it was supported by the likes of republican senator from louisiana, bill cassidy. a total disaster. and then, remember the horrid lankford schumer immigration bill that we fought against? well, the establishment, they have always, always feared the dissemination of the truth. and trump, they hate him because he is an outspoken leader. is he a truth teller and a truth seeker. had he not spoken out against the spending bill last night, and elon musk and vance and vivek not revealed what was in
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that bill for regular people who don't have time to focus on this? it would have surely been, you know, i think charged to the tab of the taxpayer right now. it would already be a done deal that in itself is a victory. so this process is ugly. you heard chad describing it early on. spending is not supposed to happen this way. congress is supposed to pass 12 discreet spending bills. not this nonsense. but, what does this episode shows us? it shows us that this is the way they like it. because there is no transparency. they don't want any transparency. they like it this way. at least most of them do. but it also shows us that from shaption area counties to fulton county, fani i will talk about later in the show. the frauds running the country and running its institutions. they are on their heels now. and it's all because of donald trump. without trump at the helm -- he
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will be in a hymn in just a month or so. they get away with all of this. they get away with fani willis is a great patriot, she is doing her great -- a great job. the charges against trump are serious. you know, they get away with the border is secure. they get away with saying that sanctuary cities are just and fair. they get away with saying we have to pass this bill even if we don't know what's in it. they get away with all of that. because of no transparency. but donald trump says no, no, no. it's time to save the country. you save it first with an educated electorate. and that's forceful. that's powerful to do that. that is the way to turn things around. that is a recipe for success from the border to restoring trust in the courts to restoring the proper legislative process. we got to do it. and that's the angle. joining me now is senator
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markwayne mullen of oklahoma, senator, great to have you on. the house republicans just helped tank the spending bill. you may have heard what chip roy said. he said it's just unconscionable to agree to raise the debt limit without certain structural reforms in place. that would ultimately start cutting spending. why is he wrong? >> phil what he is wanting to do is put reconciliation. what he doesn't realize is that schumer is wanting to hold the debt limit over president trump's head to negotiate on reconciliation. because the republicans in the senate cannot pass reconciliation without having democrat support because it takes 60 votes. we can't do it with just 51. we have to have 60. what schumer is doing here. schumer is going to hold the president, hold the american people and hold our economy hostage to make a lot worse deal moving forward. keep in mind, president trump is the art of the deal maker. he understands what it is going to take to do the job.
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is he bored thinking because he has been there before. he knows if he doesn't get this kept limit now that this is going to be held over his head and is he going to be blamed for possibly defaulting on our debt. now, think about that happens. you will see the stock market crash be, you are going to see the currency devalue, and what president trump ran on is getting america going again for the american people. get the economy going. maga, make america great again. and these individuals that got elected because maga now is going against the very man that got them elected and it's shameful. >> but this is a fact, right? right now, they have to go back to the drawing board. >> they have to, guess what? when we go back we have to negotiate because the house republicans are being held hostage now by a group of people. and i hate to say it because what they are saying philosophically is not wrong. we know that but you got to understand the room that you are trying to work with and the hand you are dealt you got to play with. it's not a perfect hand you've
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got to play with now we got to negotiate with the democrats. are we going to get a better deal? >> laura: that's what i said. now you have been given chuck schumer all the leverage here. >> that's right. >> laura: over in the senate. am i wrong? maybe i'm reading this wrong. to me and i have seen this play out long before you even entered politics, okay in this has been going on for 20 years in d.c. it is shameful. so chip roy is right about that. is he absolutely right. but you don't have the votes. when you don't have the votes, you have to compromise. compromise is terrible like we don't want to compromise, we don't wants to get everything we want. but trump understands the art of the deal. the art of the deal here is getting to yes and giving him some darn leverage going into this first year of his administration. he needs leverage. >> and president trump wants to take this gun away from his head that schumer is going to use. what the dirty secret people don't realize we had a deal. we had a deal last week that was going to be able to give this debt limit a clean slate allow
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the president to move forward, chuck schumer walked away from the table. so it's chuck schumer that did this. not president trump. unfortunately we have -- we have individuals now that is not listening to president trump by saying we got to get rid of the debt limit now because they are going to use it against him for him to actually hit the agenda that american people gave us november 5th. >> well, i don't want to say keystone cops because that kind of like the keystone cops. i don't like what i'm seeing now. >> i don't either. >> laura: trump is the most popular republican in the world. okay? in washington and world. and he should have real influence in how this goes. and. >> you are right. >> i'm very sad about it. as much as i agree with the principle of what everyone is trying to do here. senator, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> laura: the white house's cover-up. biden cover-up is worse than anyone imagined. the details will shock you, yeah. they even shocked me. it's coming up. ♪ red history,
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♪ >> laura: they wanted you to believe that joe biden was at the top of his game. he was -- he had the reins of government and he knew exactly what he was doing all these crismts from fox and yours truly
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and other people questioning biden's cognitive decline, it was just mean and it was wrong. remember? >> start your tape right now because i'm about to tell you the truth and ef you if you can't handle the truth. version of biden an lickcally and intellectually best ever not a close second i have nobody him for years. >> this kept going month after month after month until they couldn't lie any longer or sorry they weren't just very informed. all their friends in the white house were keeping the truth from them. well, now with trump about to take office, we're learning the truth about a lot of things how legislation works, the border, and now biden's decline the "wall street journal" has another excellent report that
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sheds more light on what biden was really dealing with for starters, he had trouble meeting with his staff on a typical time schedule. we talked about this, actually, when his day would actually begin. so, again, we were right. here's what it says ideally the meetings would start later in the day. since biden has never been at his best first in the morning. first thing in the morning. some of the people said if the president was having an off day, meetings would be scrapped all together. remember how we would say that he called a lid. he often called a lid at like 11:00 in the morning and oh, that's mean. that's not true. he is doing a lot of work in the residence. well, this wasn't something that, you know, just happened slowly over time. it turned out, according to this report, it happened during his first months in office. again, we said this in the campaign of 2020. the guy was half the time non-come business men as it. on one such occasion in the
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spring of 2021 a national security official explained to another aid why a meeting needed to be scheduled. he has good days and bad days and today was a bad day. so we're going -- we're going to address this tomorrow the former aide recalled the official saying this wasn't meeting with lower level democratic lawmakers and some cabinet members including powerful secretaries such as defense's lloyd austin and janet yellen at treasury were infrequent or grew less frequent. some legislative leaders had a hard time getting the president's ear at key moments ahead of the u.s.' disastrous pullout from afghanistan what happened with 12 americans dead with that afghanistan withdraw? no, never happened. he started 15 people died,
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excuse me 13 people died. stopped calling biden and senior officials started replacing him all together. for those who weren't so senior they had to help the old man walk around repeating instructions to him such as where to enter or exit a stage. now, we have certainly seen evidence that he needed help with that when biden wasn't performing duties as president he was off campaign events where his team had to give donors preapproved questions. and by the way they kept writing checks, nevertheless, how stupid are they? but, still, biden could not sound coherent. that's not surprising. he did this at public events as well. >> next question. who do i call on next?
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hang on a second. i have got my list here. hang on. i apologize. really afp. >> we are beating this into the ground. joining us into the ground dan temperature tiny co-host of the meeting and former adviser mary katharine ham. outkick contributor. they were lying to us, the press they weren't mistaken they knew how bad biden was. they weren't always behind closed doors. they have sources and contacts: why were they so brazen in lying? >> they wanted -- they wanted to win. they wanted to cling to power? i mean, their stories that came out of the 2020 campaign. feels like ages ago. during covid when biden was home in the basement. they really safeguarded his nights and weekends because he was getting tired. moment that staff saw and, you
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know, if you think about it, even when he got in the white house, and they were securing leak it always biden was behind the scenes busy. but he never used the bully pulpit. he wasn't out giving press conferences and things of that nature. and so, you know, the party decided to roll the dice and rally behind him even though after his re-election even though they knew well that he was slowly declining and beginning to really struggle. >> well, mary katharine ham it doesn't look like some d days it didn't seem slow at all it. seemed like he was totally out of it. so, we didn't really have a functioning executive branch or a commander-in-chief or a duly elected president who could make key decisions. we had function new year's making decisions and presenting them to him or maybe they didn't even present them to him, i don't know. we will never know. >> we don't know.
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the whole thing is disgraceful. all the people who had access to him, including the press, knew what was going on. this is one of the most consequential cover-ups i have seen in my lifetime. >> laura: right. >> in a presidential administration. a couple things that stuck out to me and i appreciate the reporting by the "wall street journal" reporters. august 2024, hey it we can all admit that this guy is not really with it. and they got a lot of flack for reporting that at that time, and now here we have like we were all right. the american people were all right by the way. 86% of them in some polls in february of 2024 saying hey, we can see what is in front of us. he is not well enough to do this for another four years. nonetheless, the people in charge apparently a co-presidency with like ron klain and jake sullivan not okay with me, they clung to power, using and abusing the rules of covid to sort of put this protective circle around him that never was really punctured because no one was curious enough to look closer because as
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my friend says, they wanted to win. and that is a problem. it's a giant problem. and a lot of american people saw it. >> laura: yeah. dan, we covered it from day one of the campaign. i mean, i know biden a little bit like, you know, see him around town in the old days, always a goof ball but obviously wasn't the same person. but, what did they do? they called us and others who were reporting on this mean or it was disinformation. they accused us of misand disinformation, dan. and who was the real guilty party here in the press and the white house and the democrats who knew they could not meet with him. >> yeah. they decided to try to browbeat everybody in to submission. there were lots of people in the party that knew about this. and if anybody spoke up, as my colleague just said, if you got out of line, you heard from the white house, if you wanted a meeting in the white house, if you wanted an exclusive, you know, leak to the press, you had to play ball with them.
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and it was really because they thought if they gave an inch, that it would help donald trump. that everybody was kind of aligned that you couldn't do it. including a lot of people in the mainstream media. and the media is going to have to have a reckoning on this. now for people to start saying the problem for the party a trust problem we told them ogi-wan can a nobody. move on, something to see here people formed their own opinions. we have to earn that back by having this conversation with the public. >> laura: and people who were wrong in covering up the truth they get resigned the big contracts. that's how it works. dan and mary katharine, thank you very much. fani finally take as load off, next.
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>> laura: fani willis is out on her fanny, a state appeals court kicked her and her entire team georgia interference case against trump. specifically the panel cited close relationship with nathan wade which she said was completely proper. >> i am only given him cash as i mentioned three or four times. there is no ledger. this isn't handing money off to each other. we were friends, we hung out. >> romantic relationship ended before the indictment returned yes or no? >> to a man, yes. i'm not going to emasculate a black man. i'm going to tell you which one you lied in. right here. i think lieu i had right here. >> your honor i'm going to october. >> no, no, no. it is a lie. it is a lie. turned 50 in 2021. that's probably one of the worst
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birthdays i ever had. it's like a woman doesn't have the right to keep her private life private. i don't need anybody to foot my bills. the only man ever foot my bills completely is my daddy. >> laura: okay. that was such a fun day. i remember that day watching her testify. all indignant where she marches in. joining me now david schoen former trump impeachment attorney and horace cooper project 21 chair. fani was off the case and we were told, david, i believe you were on the program at the time, we were told that she had the -- she came highly recommended impeccable credentials. this case as serious case. like everything the border on down the truth is coming out. >> she brought shame to the office quite frankly. this case has to be dismissed. the court appeals got it right in disqualifying her and her
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office. they should have dismissed the case. it's going to have to be dismissed eventually because of official act immunity and presidential immunity given the election now. beyond that, focusing on be this issue today, it has to be dismissed because of her role with the grand jury. the georgia courts in the past have said the grand jury is the primary security against malicious, hasty and oppressive persecutions by the state of georgia. that it's the since colonial times been the primary security for people. its independence is important. the supreme court spoke about it in dinesio. can't have outside influence. she had the motivation to advance wade's career. her career. political motivation. this case started with the sham so-called civil grand jury that was advisory when the foreperson was talking to the press. all of that business. the court has to dismiss this case one way or another. >> laura: all right. to that point, other counties though could take up the case, apparently, forbes reporting that democratic prosecutors in
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georgia's dekalb and cobb counties would likely to be the best equipped to take up the case. but it's not clear whether they would want to or if they would be chosen to take on the case. horace, i think that's kind of unlikely. but, i do like the fact that her race-baiting on this case utterly failed. totally failed. >> well, i have been blogging about this on twitter, x, since february of this year because it has been embarrassing poor her abilities, her leadership of the district attorney's office. and then we got to see this whole sorted affair. here's the real story. these other district attorneys are going to have to ask themselves are they willing to
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take on this pathetic sad case that never should have brought forth and use their communities, their counties, resources to pursue it? miss willis apparently has had a free reign to misuse the resources in her county as maybe she thought she could get away with. these other district attorneys are not going to have that kind of leeway. i don't think they are going to touch this with a 10-foot pole. >> laura: no. and maybe she shouldn't be giving speeches in churches about a case that she is involved with next time. that might have been a good way to go. david and horace, both of you thank you so much. coming up, why were rich celebs getting covid cash? we have a report, next. ♪
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>> laura: so tonight we are talking about the spend aroo on capitol hill all this spending they want to cover up and rush off to christmas. well, the covid relief scam, this scenes getting worse and worse the more we learn about who actually benefited from the hundreds of billions of dollars that helped drive up inflation.
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kevin corke is here with all the details. kevin? incredible laura, the money we are going to talk about shuttered venue operators grant. actually signed into law by then president trump back in 2020 championed by others like chuck schumer. it was established as a lifeline for struggling independent venues and arts groups during the pandemic boy were pop stars and rappers all happy to see that program come and go. they used it as a piggy bank, at least according to business insider. lil' wayne is under scrutiny for spending millions including more than a million bucks on private jets. more than a half million on clothes. hello and about 15 grand on mystery women? apparently the same can be said for chris brown whose spending spree included more than 5 mil for himself and taxpayer birthday party to the tube around 80 grand. charity basketball, 17 # grand and 24 endorsement drive your tour bus to mexico where you get
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to chill for a month. some say it's a cut and dried example of abusing taxpayers. at a minimum, it smells whether it's legal or not is up to a lawyer or ultimately a court. but it sure smells that according to david walker, former comptroller general of the united states. now, at least a half dozen other artists have been implicated according to business insider, so far none has commented on the allegations and i don't suspect they will any time soon, laura. >> laura: chris brown, all these celebrities, i guess, you know, that i can the money and run that's a difference artist. kevin, have a -- >> have a very merry christmas, kevin. we have loved, loved, loved having you on the angle all year long. you are just fabulous. >> merry christmas, my friend. thank you. >> laura: hope to see you soon. just ahead a big movement underway. it's all about p positivity dont we want that this time of year? we'll explain, next. ♪
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>> we introduce you to san francisco's new fat positivity czar earlier this week. she has some interesting ideas on health. >> no one has to be healthy. there is no governing body that is out there putting -- no one knows anybody that. >> absolutely. why do you owe anyone anything. her body, her life, come on. what's the point of san francisco's department of public health where she is now a consultant if not to keep people healthy. but this is par for the course. for nearly the last decade she spent a crusade to protect unhealthy behaviour. she founded a camp called camp thunder thighs and she wrote a book in 2018 titled you have the right to remain fat. she started an online movement
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called lose hate not weight that focused on eliminating fatphobia. >> never once occurred to me that maybe the problem wasn't me. maybe there was something not quite right about our culture that hated me so much just because i was bigger than other people. i never thought to blame fatphobia, the bigotry ideology depositions fat people as inferior. i only ever blamed myself. >> just last month she was featured in a "new york times" documentary series called the weight of the world where she praised the impact of social media on combating fatphobia. >> a lot of the most powerful things that social media did was to basically create a reality in which larger bodied people could be the authors of their own story for the first time in history. it was a cognitive dissonance because i've been told there is no path to dignity, no path to love, no path to beauty. if i don't starve myself.
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>> joining me now is health and fitness expert jillian michaels. it's great to see you but she calls what she does fat activism, is that what this is about? >> no. this is a thinly veiled sigh off that is disguised as social justice. it's done by the big food companies and she mentions social media and how social media liberated her with these messages of healthy at any size. what happened, big phone come -- big food companies paid dietitians and health influencers to put out these messages on social media to exploit individuals just like her. >> they must not like ozempic or any of that other stuff. that must be really bad for them. here's what they say...
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>> i cake related fatphobic incident or see rfi is that moment when it's time to eat delicious cake and it's interrupted by a moralizing impulse. it has a history of creating a hierarchy among women and ultimately in maintaining misogynist expectations. >> they bring misogyny into this, really. >> i'm going to speak candidly. when an individual is morbidly obese there is often something going on psychologically. this woman is projecting i'm hated, i will never find love, i'm not beautiful and she's rejecting the reject there's with this message. this is her own personal psychology and that's okay. people who are overweight do deserve to have love and live dignified lives. what's happening here is her own
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personal issues and vulnerabilities are being exploited by big food to say look is in this great, don't worry there's no such thing as junk food and a use hashtags like derail the shame. it's actually grotesque, not her but what the food companies are doing to people. it's disgusting, especially at a time were americans are sicker and more unhealthy than ever. >> how is this pro-woman? i'm a feminist because i want to walk around it celebrating myself for looking like a slob. there's nothing pro-woman about this. you want to do what you want to do but don't tell us it's healthy. don't tell us it's like -- she compares it to being disabled. imagine true disabilities, people with those being compared to her, really. >> i can't actually wrap my head around it.
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it is unbelievably insulting. what's interesting is win this movement reached it's height in popularity, it is unquestionable that you would notice in the stores only the female mannequins were fat, not the men. only the marketing ads with overweight models were for women, not for men. when you started to see them actually having obese child mannequins and some of the retailers, that was truly disturbing. >> now you've told me something that i didn't even know about that. come back soon and have a great holidays, great to see you as always. that is it for us tonight, make sure to follow me. we have new zooey videos up there. you ask for the videos so you are getting them. things for watching. it's america now and forever, jesse is next. >> jesse: welcome to jesse watters prime time. tonight. >> who is in charg

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