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>> more than 1500 pages 21600 pages and ours intimate that appears to have failed. let's go live t are always doing. what is the very latest that you can tell us? >> well, they just defeated this bill, which was the new interim spending plan that house speaker mike johnson put out. it would have funded the government

enough republicans to support this. republicans will turn around and try to blame this on

the democrats and say you voted no. almost all did. democrats whipped? no. they say that republicans reneged on their agreement, that they worked out for months, frankly, to get this together. and the important point that i want to keep coming back to laura and i said this on brett baer's program just a few minutes ago, is that on every bill to fund the government or raise the debt ceiling in this congress, even though republicans have been in the majority, the democrats have made up the difference. you've had swaths of republicans vote no, and the democrats have kind of carried them across the finish line. what democrats after, you know, elon musk, ramaswamy, president elect trump, whoever you want to blame for, for what happened to the bill and the changing shifts in the house republican conference yesterday, is the democrats weren't going to help because it was not their bill. it's not what they negotiated. >> yeah. well, the question is, chad now who has the leverage? thank you for that update, chad, very much. joining me now is texas congressman chip roy, a member of the house budget

committee. now, congressman, you voted against the bill. you heard chad. of course, trump comes out for it. musk, vance, ramaswamy, many others. but you thought it was a dereliction, ultimately, of congressional duty. explain that. >> yeah. well, first of all, i want to congratulate elon. i congratulate vivek and those that made this bill go from 1450 pages to 116. we got a lot of wins. we got a lot of bad stuff out of there. but you can do a lot of damage in 116 pages. and this 116 pages still continues to spend $110 billion unpaid for. it adds that much more to the debt. but importantly it increases the debt ceiling. something on the order of for two years. something on the order of $5 trillion, with no structural reforms to reduce spending. our simple ask and we told the president this we need to have structural reforms if we're going to increase the debt ceiling. i agree with the president. we need to get the

debt ceiling off the field. congressman used by chuck schumer. >> but we need reform here. yeah, i get you. but again, if the house can't pass anything then schumer has all the leverage here. i'm always about what the art of possible what's really possible. you're right about this. this is a scam. i'm going to get into this in a few minutes. the fact that this keeps happening is a complete fraud upon the american people. however, you don't have the votes, and the republicans have done this routine both on the spending side and the opposition side for years. to what end has the budget deficit gone down? has the debt declined? no and no. so right now, by defeating this, aren't you all giving schumer the leverage here and then perhaps even perhaps hurting the incoming president who will have his hands tied if this debt ceiling, which i hate to,

is not lifted for a period of time. >> well, look, i certainly think that we ought to be able to reach an agreement. i spent all last night late into the night, and then this morning meeting with my colleagues, and we put together some solutions that we thought would work. we believe that we can move a debt ceiling, increase on a reconciliation package, deal with defense, deal with the border, and give the president exactly what he wants. you know the problem, appropriators. you know the problem. uniparty republicans. what i refuse to do is take it on the chin. the conservative freedom caucus member on the budget committee who wants fiscal discipline because the appropriators always get their way, and because the big spenders always get their way. doge is no good if congress sits and does nothing. and i'm sick of the same old my children, i miss them every day. i was on my phone with my son just a minute ago when i went through cancer. 12 years ago, i promised them i would fight for everything to save this country, and we're not going to do it by adding more debt. and i'm tired of the same people in this town doing the same old thing and racking up deficit spending. the president needs a better congress than this. we need to

change, but we don't know more of the status quo. >> right? i understand you, but you're going to have an even slimmer majority next year, which is, i believe, why trump needed that that that room to in put into place his priorities next year. not that he's going to raise the debt ceiling, you know every few months but that he he needs i mean blow the blow the spending every few months but that he didn't need that damocles sword hanging over his head. that's what he doesn't want. isn't that the case? you don't you don't believe trump's going to be worse spender than biden or anything, do you? >> no. look, look, i 100% support getting the debt ceiling off the table for the president, but you have to do it the right way. you've got to put in place structural spending reforms we could have done to agree to that. we offered it. we would. conservatives in the house would. but it's the appropriators and the leadership who didn't. >> do i get you? i understand that. >> then why then why should our children take it on the chin? but, laura, why should our children take it on the chin? >> i agree with the appropriate

congressman. but, congressman, the problem here is this. this strategy has never produced what you say you want. what you want is and i agree with you that ultimately the goal is you've got to cut spending. you've got to get this budget deficit under control, and you've got to show the american people that you're serious. i totally agree with you. but how does what you're doing, what you did tonight, voting against this, get us any closer to that? >> well, because what we should do is go back to what? where we were this morning before they decided to pull the ripcord on our talks to do what we should do, which use reconciliation with majority republican vote to pass a responsible increase in the debt ceiling with the kind of spending cuts that are in place in reconciliation. that's all we asked for. we asked for guaranteed spending cuts so that we could make sure that all of this is paid for. that's it. i don't think that that's that hard. every republican should support that. and the republicans who oppose it, they should answer for why this bill failed. >> well, i think we are. it's going to be even worse. i think things are going to get worse, not better. but maybe that's

the way it has to go. congressman, you're great to come on. thank you very much. and that brings us to swamp games. that's the focus of tonight's angle. now as i just said we've seen this spending charade before. and the dc corrupt autocrats, they usually win. but let's look at the good side tonight. the swamp creatures, they always scatter and scream when they're under a spotlight may not actually win this time. it may not be able to ram through the usual last minute, bloated yuletide spending, even after all the messiness of today. but i think the swamp has to have forgotten along the way that donald trump and his crew could actually read the bill. they were betting on everyone just wanting to rush to the doors for christmas. but what happened was social media. as elon musk noted tonight, social media was used for its best purpose to reveal the truth to the american people, in this case, the horrors that chip roy was talking about within that

bill, it was teeming with nonessential junk. we talked about it last night, but of course, the democrats, when this was all unraveling, they didn't respond by defending the bill itself because it's indefensible. all they could do is find a new villain. >> welcome to the elon musk presidency. clearly, what elon musk wants elon musk is going to get for president musk to come in at the last moment and blow up the deal is just intolerable. >> a non-elected billionaire, elon musk, has weighed in now and has put forth a message on twitter from his phone that it's okay to shut the government down and to disregard the bipartisan deal. the public is not going to tolerate that. >> of course, none of that. none of that holds at all. and i'll say this when you're going after one private citizen, even if it's musk with all of his money for exercising his first

amendment rights, you have no argument. and any attempt to pit musk against trump is just stupid. it's goofy. the truth is, the democrats have lost control of this narrative and the purse strings. and when you've lost that, you've lost everything. their old playbook of intimidating republicans to blow billions on wasteful projects. it hasn't worked. despite their best attempts. >> today, republicans are in shambles over in the house. the only way to get things done is through bipartisanship. the only way. let me repeat. the only way to get things done is through bipartisanship. >> well, those lines of attack, though, are no longer potent when americans are kept in the loop on the dirty details of legislation or what they claim to be the best thing for the american public, we saw it also happen during covid. what eventually happens and

sometimes now faster than than everyone would like. but the american people start ignoring the liberal spin, and then they reject the shakedown. that is awesome. now, viewers of the angle were familiar with this con, even from establishment republicans when they tried to pull it. remember, they went after us at the angle and donald trump after that for targeting that disastrous bipartisan infrastructure bill. it was supported by the likes of republican senator from louisiana, bill cassidy, a total disaster. and then remember the horrid lankford schumer immigration bill that we fought against? well, the establishment they've always, always feared the dissemination of the truth. and trump, they hate him because he's an outspoken leader. he's a truth teller and a truth seeker. had he not spoken out against the spending bill last night and elon musk and vance and vivek not revealed what was in that

bill for just regular people who don't have time to focus on this, it would have surely been, you know, i think charged to the tab of the taxpayer right now. it would already be a done deal. so that in itself is a victory. so this process is ugly. it's very ugly. you heard chad describing it early on. spending is not supposed to happen this way. congress is supposed to pass 12 discrete spending bills. not this nonsense, but what does this episode show us? well, it shows us that this is the way they like it, because then there's no transparency. they don't want any transparency. they like it this way, at least most of them do. but it also shows us that from sanctuary cities to fulton county to, you know. more on fani willis i'll talk about later in the show, the frauds who've been running the country and running its institutions. they're on their heels now, and it's all because of donald trump. without trump

at the helm. and he'll be at the helm in just a month or so. they get away with all of this. they get away with fani. willis is a great patriot. she's doing her great, great job. the charges against trump are serious. you know, they get away with the border is secure. they get away with saying that sanctuary cities are just and fair. they get away with saying, we have to. we have to pass this bill even if we don't know what's in it. they get away with all of that because of no transparency. but donald trump says, no, no, no, it's time to save the country. and you save it first. with an educated electorate. and that's forceful, that's powerful to do that. that is the way to turn things around. that is a recipe for success. from the border to restoring trust in the courts to restoring the proper legislative process, we got to do it. sunlight is the best disinfectant, and that's the angle. joining me now is

senator markwayne mullin of oklahoma. senator, great to have you on. so the house republicans just helped tank the spending bill. you may have heard what chip roy said. he said it's just unconscionable to agree to raise the debt limit without certain structural reforms in place that would ultimately start cutting spending. why is he wrong? >> well, first of all, what he's wanting to do is put it part of reconciliation. what he doesn't realize is that schumer is wanting to hold the debt limit over president trump's head to negotiate on reconciliation, because the republicans in the senate cannot pass reconciliation without having democrat support, because it takes 60 votes. we can't do it with just 51. we have to have 60. what schumer is doing here is schumer is going to hold the president, hold the american people, and hold our economy hostage to make a lot worse deal moving forward. keep in mind president trump is the art of the deal maker. he

understands what it's going to take to do the job. he's forward thinking because he's been there before. he knows that if he doesn't get this debt limit now, that this is going to be held over his head and he's going to be blamed for possibly defaulting on our on our debt. now think about that happens. you're going to see the stock market crash. you're going to see the currency devalue. and what president trump ran on is getting america going again for the american people. get the economy going, maga make america great again. and these individuals that got elected because of maga now is going against the very man that got him elected. and it's shameful. >> so but this is a this is a fact, right? right, right. now they have to go back to the drawing board. >> they have to. and guess what? when we go back, we're going to have to negotiate because the house republicans are being held hostage now by a group of people. and i hate to say it because what they're saying philosophically is not wrong. we know that. but it's you got to understand the room that you're trying to work with and the hand you're dealt, you

got to play with. it's not a perfect hand you got to play with. and so now we've got to negotiate with the democrats. are we going to get a better deal? >> yeah, that's well that's what i said. i mean now you've given you've given chuck schumer all the leverage here. that's right. over, over in the senate. i mean, am i wrong am i maybe i'm reading this wrong like to me and i've seen this play out long before you even entered politics. okay. this has been going on for 20 years in d.c. it is shameful. so chip roy is right about that. he's absolutely right. but you don't have the votes. when you don't have the votes, you have to compromise. compromise is terrible. like we don't want to compromise. we all want to get everything we want. but trump understands the art of the deal. the art of the deal here is getting to yes and giving him some darn leverage going into this first, first year of his administration. he needs he wants he needs leverage. >> yeah. and president trump wants to take this gun away from his head that schumer is going to use. what the dirty secret is that people don't realize is we had a deal. we had a deal last week that was going to be able to give this

debt, limit a clean slate, allow the president to move forward. chuck schumer walked away from the table. so is chuck schumer that did this, not president trump. and unfortunately we have we have individuals now that's not listening to president trump by saying we've got to get rid of the debt limit now because they're going to use it against him for him to actually hit the agenda that the american people gave us november 5th. >> well, i don't want to say keystone cops, because that kind of like the keystone cops. i don't like what i'm seeing now. okay? i don't either. trump is trump is the most popular republican in the world, okay? in washington, in the world. and he should have real influence in how this goes. and you're right. i'm very sad about it. as much as i agree with the principle of what everyone is trying to do here. senator, thank you very much. all right. the white house's cover up, biden cover up is worse than anyone imagined. the details will shock you. yeah, they even shocked me. it's coming up.

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and other people questioning biden's cognitive decline, it was just mean and it was wrong. remember? >> start your tape right now because i'm about to tell you the truth and ef you if you can't handle the truth. version of biden an lickcally and intellectually best ever not a close second i have nobody him for years. >> this kept going month after month after month until they couldn't lie any longer or sorry they weren't just very informed. all their friends in the white house were keeping the truth from them. well, now with trump about to take office, we're learning the truth about a lot of things how legislation works, the border, and now biden's decline the "wall street journal" has another excellent report that sheds more light on what biden

was really dealing with for starters, he had trouble meeting with his staff on a typical time schedule. we talked about this, actually, when his day would actually begin. so, again, we were right. here's what it says ideally the meetings would start later in the day. since biden has never been at his best first in the morning. first thing in the morning. some of the people said if the president was having an off day, meetings would be scrapped all together. remember how we would say that he called a lid. he often called a lid at like 11:00 in the morning and oh, that's mean. that's not true. he is doing a lot of work in the residence. well, this wasn't something that, you know, just happened slowly over time. it turned out, according to this report, it happened during his first months in office. again, we said this in the campaign of 2020. the guy was half the time non-come business men as it. on one such occasion in the spring of 2021 a national

security official explained to another aid why a meeting needed to be scheduled. he has good days and bad days and today was a bad day. so we're going -- we're going to address this tomorrow the former aide recalled the official saying this wasn't meeting with lower level democratic lawmakers and some cabinet members including powerful secretaries such as defense's lloyd austin and janet yellen at treasury were infrequent or grew less frequent. some legislative leaders had a hard time getting the president's ear at key moments ahead of the u.s.' disastrous pullout from afghanistan what happened with 12 americans dead with that afghanistan withdraw? no, never happened. he started 15 people died,

excuse me 13 people died. stopped calling biden and senior officials started replacing him all together. for those who weren't so senior they had to help the old man walk around repeating instructions to him such as where to enter or exit a stage. now, we have certainly seen evidence that he needed help with that when biden wasn't performing duties as president he was off campaign events where his team had to give donors preapproved questions. and by the way they kept writing checks, nevertheless, how stupid are they? but, still, biden could not sound coherent. that's not surprising. he did this at public events as well. >> next question. who do i call on next? hang on a second.

i have got my list here. hang on. i apologize. really afp. >> we are beating this into the ground. joining us into the ground dan temperature tiny co-host of the meeting and former adviser mary katharine ham. outkick contributor. they were lying to us, the press they weren't mistaken they knew how bad biden was. they weren't always behind closed doors. they have sources and contacts: why were they so brazen in lying? >> they wanted -- they wanted to win. they wanted to cling to power? i mean, their stories that came out of the 2020 campaign. feels like ages ago. during covid when biden was home in the basement. they really safeguarded his nights and weekends because he was getting tired. moment that staff saw and, you know, if you think about it,

even when he got in the white house, and they were securing leak it always biden was behind the scenes busy. but he never used the bully pulpit. he wasn't out giving press conferences and things of that nature. and so, you know, the party decided to roll the dice and rally behind him even though after his re-election even though they knew well that he was slowly declining and beginning to really struggle. >> well, mary katharine ham it doesn't look like some day dayst didn't seem slow at all it. seemed like he was totally out of it. so, we didn't really have a functioning executive branch or a commander-in-chief or a duly elected president who could make key decisions. we had function new year's making decisions and presenting them to him or maybe they didn't even present them to him, i don't know. we will never know. >> we don't know.

the whole thing is disgraceful. all the people who had access to him, including the press, knew what was going on. this is one of the most consequential cover-ups i have seen in my lifetime. >> laura: right. >> in a presidential administration. a couple things that stuck out to me and i appreciate the reporting by the "wall street journal" reporters. august 2024, hey it we can all admit that this guy is not really with it. and they got a lot of flack for reporting that at that time, and now here we have like we were all right. the american people were all right by the way. 86% of them in some polls in february of 2024 saying hey, we can see what is in front of us. he is not well enough to do this for another four years. nonetheless, the people in charge apparently a co-presidency with like ron klain and jake sullivan not okay with me, they clung to power, using and abusing the rules of covid to sort of put this protective circle around him that never was really punctured because no one was curious enough to look closer because as

my friend says, they wanted to win. and that is a problem. it's a giant problem. and a lot of american people saw it. >> laura: yeah. dan, we covered it from day one of the campaign. i mean, i know biden a little bit like, you know, see him around town in the old days, always a goof ball but obviously wasn't the same person. but, what did they do? they called us and others who were reporting on this mean or it was disinformation. they accused us of misand disinformation, dan. and who was the real guilty party here in the press and the white house and the democrats who knew they could not meet with him. >> yeah. they decided to try to browbeat everybody in to submission. there were lots of people in the party that knew about this. and if anybody spoke up, as my colleague just said, if you got out of line, you heard from the white house, if you wanted a meeting in the white house, if you wanted an exclusive, you know, leak to the press, you had to play ball with them.

and it was really because they thought if they gave an inch, that it would help donald trump. that everybody was kind of aligned that you couldn't do it. including a lot of people in the mainstream media. and the media is going to have to have a reckoning on this. now for people to start saying the problem for the party a trust problem we told them ogi-wan can a nobody. move on, something to see here people formed their own opinions. we have to earn that back by having this conversation with the public. >> laura: and people who were wrong in covering up the truth they get resigned the big contracts. that's how it works. dan and mary katharine, thank you very much. fani finally take as load off,

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>> laura: fani willis is out on her fanny, a state appeals court kicked her and her entire team georgia interference case against trump. specifically the panel cited close relationship with nathan wade which she said was completely proper. >> i am only given him cash as i mentioned three or four times. there is no ledger. this isn't handing money off to each other. we were friends, we hung out. >> romantic relationship ended before the indictment returned yes or no? >> to a man, yes. i'm not going to emasculate a black man. i'm going to tell you which one you lied in. right here. i think lieu i had right here. >> your honor i'm going to october. >> no, no, no. it is a lie. it is a lie. turned 50 in 2021. that's probably one of the worst

birthdays i ever had. it's like a woman doesn't have the right to keep her private life private. i don't need anybody to foot my bills. the only man ever foot my bills completely is my daddy. >> laura: okay. that was such a fun day. i remember that day watching her testify. all indignant where she marches in. joining me now david schoen former trump impeachment attorney and horace cooper project 21 chair. fani was off the case and we were told, david, i believe you were on the program at the time, we were told that she had the -- she came highly recommended impeccable credentials. this case as serious case. like everything the border on down the truth is coming out. >> she brought shame to the office quite frankly. this case has to be dismissed. the court appeals got it right in disqualifying her and her

office. they should have dismissed the case. it's going to have to be dismissed eventually because of official act immunity and presidential immunity given the election now. beyond that, focusing on be this issue today, it has to be dismissed because of her role with the grand jury. the georgia courts in the past have said the grand jury is the primary security against malicious, hasty and oppressive persecutions by the state of georgia. that it's the since colonial times been the primary security for people. its independence is important. the supreme court spoke about it in dinesio. can't have outside influence. she had the motivation to advance wade's career. her career. political motivation. this case started with the sham so-called civil grand jury that was advisory when the foreperson was talking to the press. all of that business. the court has to dismiss this case one way or another. >> laura: all right. to that point, other counties though could take up the case, apparently, forbes reporting that democratic prosecutors in

georgia's dekalb and cobb counties would likely to be the best equipped to take up the case. but it's not clear whether they would want to or if they would be chosen to take on the case. horace, i think that's kind of unlikely. but, i do like the fact that her race-baiting on this case utterly failed. totally failed. >> well, i have been blogging about this on twitter, x, since february of this year because it has been embarrassing poor her abilities, her leadership of the district attorney's office. and then we got to see this whole sorted affair. here's the real story. these other district attorneys are going to have to ask themselves are they willing to

take on this pathetic sad case that never should have brought forth and use their communities, their counties, resources to pursue it? miss willis apparently has had a free reign to misuse the resources in her county as maybe she thought she could get away with. these other district attorneys are not going to have that kind of leeway. i don't think they are going to touch this with a 10-foot pole. >> laura: no. and maybe she shouldn't be giving speeches in churches about a case that she is involved with next time. that might have been a good way to go. david and horace, both of you thank you so much. coming up, why were rich celebs getting covid cash? we have a report, next. ♪ have you ever thought of getting a walk-in tub for you or someone you love? now is a great time to take a look at getting a safe step walk-in tub. with safe step's standard heated seat and new fast fill faucet,

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♪ ♪ >> laura: so tonight, we arell talking about the spend a rule on capitol hill. of the spending they want toof cover up and rush up for christmas. weldment covidthis relief scam,s keeps getting worse and worse the more we learn who benefited from hundreds and hundreds of o billions of dollars held out toi drive up inflation.

fox news senior national correspondent, kevin corke, is here with all the details.ke kevin., th >> just incredible, laura. the money we are going to tellgn you about him from shattered vendors operation grant signed into law by them president trumt in 2020 champion by others like chuck schumer. it was established as a lifeline for struggling and dependent then use arts groups during that pandemic. boy, pop stars and rappers happ to see the program, and go and used it as a piggy bank to business insider. little wing screwed me spendin c millions includingks more than d half a million on clothes in about $15,000 on ministry women? apparently the same could be bad mfor chris brown spending sprel included more than $5 million for himself!taxp and taxpayer-funded birthday party to the tune up around $80,000. charit, 17y basketball, anybody?

$179,000.24000 to drive a tourtn bus to mexico to chill for a month. tax some say cut and dry example of abusing taxpayers and at ar ul minimum it smells whether legal or not is up to a lawyer or ultimately a court but it sure enersmells according to david wr ford or comptroller general of the united states. at least a half to death another artist implicated according to business insider and so fal anro one complicated on the allegations and i don't suspect they will any time soon, laura. >> laura: chris brown and all of these celebrities. i guess a different artist, mer kevin -- >> good reference. >> laura: exactly have a very merry christmas and we loveul having you on "the angleou" all yearmy long. you are fabulous.ad >> thank you periods payment just had big movement underway. but is all about positivity and how we want at this time of year? we will explain next.

>> laura: we introduce you too san francisco's new fat positivity czar earlier this week. he r name is virginie tovar and she has interesting ideas on health. >> no one has toheal be healthy. right? it is like no one, there is no - governing body, do you know what ybodi mean? nobody owes anybody that. >> abs laura: absolutely, why do you owe anybody anything? or body, her live, come on! what is the point of san francisco's department of public health where is now asacs consultant?op if notle to keep people healthy? but this i is par for the course t or tovar. for nearly the last decade, she has been a crusade to protect and healthy and can't find her thighs and she wrote a booku entitled "you have the right to remain fat."

lose hate, not weight that focused on eliminating fatphobia.er o >> in never once occurred to me that maybe the problem was not me but may be something notg quite righnot about our cultureh that hated mate so much just because i was bigger than other people. and i never thought to blamede fatphobia of the ideology that people sees as inferior. only ever blamed myself. >> laura: just last month, k tovar featured "new york time" documentartiy series called "the weight of the world" she had social media combating fatphobia. >> one of the most powerful thiningsg social media did was o basically create a reality iner which larger bodied people could be the authors have their ownr story for the first timeth inn history. it was a cognitive dissidenti've because i've been told there is no path to dignity, no path to love. no path to beauty if i don't

starve myself. >> laura: joining me now isan m health and fitness expert jillian michaels. dalian, it is great to see you but she calls what she doest affect activism but is this really what this is about? >> no, this is thinly veiled site up that is disguised as social justice. it is done by the big food companies, and she actually mentionsedia social media and social media liberated her but these messages have healthy at any size. what happened, big food companies paid registered dietitians and health influencer is to put out these messages on social media to exploit individuals just like her. >> laura: wow!y mu >> they must not like ozempic or any of the stuff.

but tovar says for people but ak for piece of cake. a fatphobic incident or see ifmo ria is that moment when it is time to eaatt delicious cake and interrupted by a moralizing import crfi a hierarchy of wome. and maintaining misogynist expectations. >> laura: misogyny now, jillian, that they bring misogyny into this, really appeared. >> became will speak candidly. when an individual is morbidly oobeys, something psychologicali is going on and she is projecting i am a data, and i not let then i will not find love.s me she is rejected with thiss message.onal this is her own personal psychology and that is okay. people who are overweight deserve to have love and live dignified lives. but what i s happening here is

her own personal issues and vulnerabilities are being exploited by big food to say, hey, look, isn't this great? don't worry there is no such thing as junk food and they is hashtags like #derailtheshame.at it is grotesque and wet food companies are doing to people is disgusting. especially at a time whene americans are sicker and unhealthier than ever. >> laura: and how is this pro-women? i am pro women and? i met feminist because i want to walk around celebrating my cell for, sorry, looking like a slob. there is nothing pro-woman about this. we don't care, do what you want to do about tell us it isll u healthy and at one point we have to play a sound bite and she compares it to being disabled,im jillian.g imagine true disabilities those being comparedared to her, realr >> i can't actually wrap my head

around it.unbe it is unbelievably insulting. what is interesting whenting ths movement reached its height andi popularity, it is unquestionable that you wouldould notice in thl stores only the femalenneq mannequins were fat and not thee men. m only the marketing ads with overweight models were for women and not for men.se but when you start to see them having obese child mannequins ns aand some of the retailers, t was truly disturbing. >> laura: oh, my gosh, i evene missed that. jillian, now you told me something i didn't even know about that. jillian, come back soon and have a great holiday. it is great to see you tonight. e to follow us on instagram. we have news that wewe videos up there make. >> todd: a fox news alert, deadline for the government shutdown