the lights, the ornaments the decorations speak to chinese culture in china more broadly. >> it includes something very, very meaningful. the goldstar tree. >> it is truly special. it is a tree where family members or anybody who has lost a loved one and paying the ultimate sacrifice to this country can leave an ornament or photo of their loved one and it becomes a permanent part of the tree. it is an incredibly powerful and special way to make sure that we never forget those who paid the ultimate -- who paid the ultimate price for freedom. >> that is it for today. thank you for joining us. have a merry christmas and a happy start to hanukkah. we will see you next fox news sunday. ♪ levin. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ ♪ hello america i am mark levin this is "life, liberty & levin" sunday. welcome, to great guest senator ted cruz and victor davis hanson. but before we get to them, i want to address this issue of spending and borrowing and debt a little differently. budget spending debt this debate is about morality. a word you never hear when this debate take place but it's about morality. it's about what our generation parents and grandparents are doing to our children and grandchildren. for generations yet born. we are creating an economic and societal catastrophe for which our children, and their children will not and cannot survive if

we do not hit the brakes. we are stealing their wealth. was stealing their savings. were stealing their livelihood. we are stealing the retirements even before any of it has been created. they will have to pay for everything we are doing, congress is doing at the present is doing today. the debt, the programs, they are going to pay for all of it. and guess what, i'll have a vote was still from them. the morale to what we are doing to our own families has never been done by any generation to the next generation. not in this country. we are literally plundering. our siparasite plundering our on children and grandchildren. and then we deceive ourselves into believing that what we are

doing is righteous. all the good causes are infinite. all of the needy people not only in our country but in other countries. please come in so that we can subsidize you. we talk about income disparities. we need to fix those to redistribution of wealth. they all need money. lots and lots of money that we don't even have. and to do otherwise, we are told is to be evil. to support the rich. maybe even beat racists. plunder is there for righteous heard the more we plunder, future generations and generations yet born, the more righteous we are but immorality is said to be virtuous, principled, even noble free talk about it. in contemporacontemporary polity lavish themselves sanctimonious holier than thou praised with claims they stand for the little guy, the workers.

the average people blue-collar workers union members a stand for them as they steal from our productivity and ensure future bankruptcy and societal turmoil and impoverishment to our families. they do it for votes. they do it for power. to do it for control but always growing the central government. always smothering we the people with red tape threatening us with fines and punishment. but we vote for them. so many of us come to believe they are what they claim to blue, righteous. and frankly, some of them are fellow citizens are selfish. yes, class warfare works for a lot of people. it does, redistribution of wealth works for people. oppression the oppressed versus the oppressors. it has some cachet with a lot of

people. making business heel rehearse some of my friends they claim to be populous to sound like marxist socialist. they exist, big bat with got to bring them that we got to eliminate this, with got to limit that. they're not found in business, the phone and government. government, and so we need to regulate and tax and tax and regulate, it is a mantra that appeals to too many of us. did i mention words like liber liberty, individual responsibility, the nuclear family, hard work, faith, they seem to have lost their place in society and all o the static tht goes on. the entire character of the nation is at stake. being altered right in front of our eyes in this election, the landslide election of donald trump the republicans taking control of the senate.

the republicans barely holding on to the house was a u-turn election. we went a u-turn from what is happening to our country, don't we? do we? well, that's what this debate is all about. let's dig into the numbers. over 70% of federal spending and that includes of borrowing is for so-called entitlement programs. they are immune from any budget decisions. can you imagine they include social security medicaid in others the social security old age survivors insurance trust fund which we are told is an insurance program we pay into whether we like it or not. we are told they are going to go broke in 2033. how can that be? at which time it could only cover 79% of scheduled benefits and every year thereafter less

and yet less and less untouchable. do not touch it do not reform it. excuse me question what the schumer solution in a senate bill they would change for government workers, local, state, federal. it would change the way they are paid social security. it used to be that get a differential between what they get in social security and their other government pension. schumer and a whole bunch of republicans have decided we are going to change that even though social security is going broke we are going to have a go broke faster, why? we are handing out lollipops. that is why. all of those workers, millions of them will get their quote unquote full social security pension plus their full other government pension. that is called fairness and equality that's destroying social security faster than 2033. knowing today not have performed proposals on the table will not

discuss them, they have destruction proposals on this table that are righteous don't you know? for the little guy. social security, medicare, medicaid, earned income tax credit. child tax credit you hear about new social programs entitlement they want to create family leave programs. they are just f and listed all these entitlements amount to about 70% the federal government 66%. 8% of the federal budget is net interest. entitlement we are told in and interest on the debt that's 26% of the budget that is discretionary. 45% of that 26% in his defense d national security spending. so what is it congress is fighting over? about 15% of the federal budget. about 15% it's worth fighting over. because the big spenders the

righteous politicians who care about the little guy they look for an opportunity to blow up the budget. to increase the debt and to pass the evil onto our children and our grandchildren that is right. now continuing resolution keep hearing about them what do they deal with the deal but 15% of the budget. we may have to shut down the government. we never shut down the government. remember i paul ryan on my radio show i think it's in 2010 but as a long time ago trinity party movement of which i was a very active member he said was shut down the government so-called this is when he was a budget booguru not just a trump hater e said be shut down about 17% of the got budgets out from the national parks and things like that so we can make it feel painful so they can make you feel painful.

but the truth is the entitlements continue chugging along they continue to be made. that is the way it works. we talk but we talk but a government shutdown? were not talking much social security, compass checks go out for her not talk about medicare those payments are made. the not talk about medicaid. notalk about veterans benefits. in terms of federal employees the private sector never works that when you are furloughed you are out you do not get back pay. they do. the basic functions of government continue here's another secret you know it does not stop? revenue. the revenue continues to come into the federal government i just took a look at this right before came on air. according to the department of treasury as of december 16, 2024 pretty recent federal government for the fiscal year to date

since october 2024 on a monthly basis is $629 billion. that's a lot multiply that times 12. wow. that's trillions of dollars. they continue to come into the federal treasury from the individual tax for the corporate taxpayers estate taxes all the rest of the taxes the federal government imposes on us. it just keeps coming and even if the government shuts down 17% of it. so the majority of this money flows into the treasury, you have to keep paying your taxes. it is still not enough money. they still want more. so when the republicans say we want to clean continuing resolution just so we can get funding. no, no, no we've got to add this to group. group on happens every day.

veronica writing i believe it's in reason, she says according to brand-new cbo congressional budget office number c2024 budget deficit is around 1.8 trillion. it is heading to 2.8 trillion in 10 years. think about this. trillions. assuming a very rosy scenario, worrisome is the interest on government debt will eat up over 20% of revenues in 2025 almost no money left for the other stuff like education agricult agriculture, energy, the federal government debt is over $28 trillion by one measure, iso- one measure its over $36 trillion. she says to trillion dollars more than last year end 6 trillion more on the biden/harris team entered the white house. this debt stands at one 100% of america's gross domestic product. other than a one year exception at the end of world war ii is the highest ratio would never had and the poi in the point iss

going up. now what does that mean? that means our debt, right now is as big as all things produced in our economy. our debt as big as our economy in is going to be bigger than our economy soon. what does that mean? it means financial disaster. our economy cannot even keep up with the debt. three-month edge of the term in four months after the last 900 building covid-19 relief deal published $1.9 trillion bill. this spending was so out of proportion with the state of the economy which face it output gap of only four and 20 billion we suffered the worst inflation in 40 years. this was not just a serious hit to the deficit. because the typical family more than 10,000 dollars. thank you joe as he bumps into walls.

thank you for nothing. the administration then decided to push several large unpaid bills. 1.4 trillion in new spending and omnibus appropriation bills. this is like the cr stuff that is being pushed. 620 billion in student loan bailouts. 520 billion for new veterans benefits paid 440 billion-dollar infrastructure law. semi conductor bill, three to $60 billion in a supplemental nutrition assistance program in health spending forced or by executive orders. it just keeps going and going. nobody asked her children and grandchildren and of course we cannot ask the children who have yet to be born. thus the ones who have not been aborted. add it all up include interest payments on the debt you get $5 trillion on top of what we already have. that's $5 trillion. the impact of this irresponsible spending spree is a plane to see and other numbers. when biden and harris enter the white house, the budget deficit

was a pandemic influence 2.3 trillion part much of the debt created under trump, not all that much of it related to the pandemic was supposed to be one time spend but guess what there is never one time spending. the democrats invited use that as a base did not say it let's get rid of it, no. it wawas set default 905 billioy 2024. is now twice what it supposed to be even this is nothing compared with biden and harris hope to spend they tried to push out another $2.3 trillion, build back a better bill on top of all the rest of it. the supreme court blocked a much larger version of the student loan version as well but as a result interest costs have skyrocketed by one of 52% under president biden. 33% growth in 21% growth in spending for medicaid. this is interest on top of the spending. 15% growth in spending for defense but 14% growth in

spending for medicare. but by all means we must not shut down the government. were not really shutting down the government evenly shut down. no, no, no during the pandemic you can shut down the entire economy. you get people out of right it does not matter. the food shelves can be empty. you can do whatever you want to the private sector in the name of the people. and the name of the best interest of the people. but not 1 penny from the government. not one hour of a shutdown from the government. what a catastrophe we cannot go to national parks i. what a catastrophe someone's might be put off but we cannot save the country by shutting down the government. the only way we can save the country, is by slashing the government. and yes, shutting down the government if that means getting a result, that is really a mandated by reality there's 21

federal shutdowns, look at the chart, the graph here. since 1976 under gerald ford, under jimmy carter at multiple locations under ronald reagan multiplication george hwb and bill clinton, several occasions under barack obama wh who's nevr shut down under george w. bush she was a big spender, let's be honest for shut down several times under donald trump. but remember you just swaths of the government are largely unaffected social security, medicare, veterans benefits, the postal service because it is separate. student loans, food assistance programs, they continue faa, tsa and so forth and so on they continue. the government really never shuts down. and yet we have to avoid it at all costs. if we do not start getting our act together as a people and put pressure on democrats in congress if we do not start

putting pressure on these people, they cut it out. if we do not take a morality back if we do not take our children and grandchildren and future generations yet born, if we do not take their lives the back of this bureaucracy, this government, these politicians are going to take it from us. and guess what, in the end we will all be pushing wheelbarrows up and where the black and white pictures of the bottom of the republic filled with useless money. because just like the law of physics there is the law of economics. you can only defy it for s israel, the birthplace of our faiths for christians and jews. that christmas morning, wise men brought gifts from outside the holy land. but in this year of war, this holy land and her people are living in fear. many of the elderly

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immorality of what is taking place. we just assume redistribution of wealth is a good thing for governments a good thing which women on the edges and so forth and so on. we live in the world of the economic socialist? >> well, a portion of his big spending culture in washington that consists of all the democrats and about half the republicans. that is been true for a long, long time verbal effort was focused on this continuing resolution battle very few people focus on this week, the united states senate voted to add $200 billion of additional debt to social security. and to drive up the debt for social security to accelerate the insolvency of social security for seniors by six months. now they did so to correct something called the wep the windfall elimination provision. we should correct that. that is something that's treated retired cops and firefighters

and teachers unfairly. i found legislation for seven years to fix the wep to take care of cops and firefighters and retired teachers. the differences the bill i have that fixes the problem cost $25 billion. what did congress do? they spent $200 billion and they hurt every senior in america that relies on social security. that got nary a blip on the 6:0s in a $200 billion as seniors to being sold on the river. mark: social security itself with or without any of this. according to the trustees is going to go broke. had nothing is done about it. his so, we are fighting over 26% of the budget is discretionary paid we are actually fighting over 55% of that since 45% is a defense and we are talking about continuing resolutions. this is what i mean. it is sorted up -- mike is not pointless the battles are very, very important.

but, i really blame we the people because the politicians in washington d.c. understood that we are concerned about the utter and complete evisceration of our finances under economic system if this continues. and at the end of the rainbow, there is no social security parade there is not medicare. our children and grandchildren are stuck with the debt on top of the rest of it. i feel that discussion needs to be had. because as soon as 70 open their mouth about reforming one of these programs, they are under vicious attack and evil lies, no? >> the good news is the battle over the continuing resolution of the shut down right now, is a skirmish. it's a little skirmish at the end of the year. we are less than a month away from a brand-new administration. a brand-new congress we are less than a month away from have a republican geordie in the senate and republican majority in the house it. we will get to the skirmish right now but the real battle is next year but the real battle

the reason the battle is next year's if you are going to change the direction of this massive spending, massive debt that we have, if you're going to bring back economic growth you have got to do so through legislation that can pass through both houses. right now chuck schumer and the democrats still control the senate. that will change address a few weeks. but, right now we don't have the leverage to pass anything in the senate. in january will have the have a republican majority in particular we will use a procedure called budget reconciliation. what's relevant about that as a budget reconciliation is the most important exception to the filibuster. it means that you can pass legislation to the senate with just 50 votes. you do not need 60, which you normally need. we are going to take up to budget reconciliations next year. the first when i expect us to do very early focus on securing the border.

were going to happen in january and february of next year these sack at what is going to focus on extending the tax cuts on regular form, on energy that's really the opportunity. if republicans stand together, we can enacted massive reforms. >> as with the people once it. by a landslide to think that is with the people what you are right we are poised to do that with president trump you folks running the senate and house of

short time later in manhattan a motive has not been released. i am jon scott. ♪. mark: welcome back america. we are here with senator ted cruz. senator cruz, i look around the world and we see progress in the middle east. we see progress in the middle east. hamas is on its back, it is almost facedown. hezbollah the same thing. the houthi are now being adult there keep shooting hypersonic missiles at israel and israel's not putting up with that stuff anymore. iran is starti hurting very, vey badly. and then i watch this guy it was the national security advisor and i watch abide in as little as possible. they are taking credit. with the not withholding weapons from israel? without trying to depose the

elected prime minister for the not demanding israel not take the fight to the enemy, not defeat the enemy? were they not funding ironic, the mothership of all these terrorist organizations? and now they dare to take credit for what's taken place in the middle east? what do you make of this? >> they are spending like crazy. they are trying to guess like the american people by the simple reality is we have had four years of absolute disaster when it comes to national security and foreign policy. as bad as joe biden and the democrats domestic policy was, their economic policy was their foreign policy was even worse. donald trump was present at the first term, we had peace and prosperity. we saw a piece of flowering in the middle east for the first time in decades. some arabs and israelis coming in and sign the abrahams accords i was on the south lawn of the white house without histo in thc piece of deal was signed and then joe biden and the democrats came in.

we right now have two major wars that are raging simultaneously and mark mark, there is a reaso. weakness invites hostility and aggression. appeasement does not work. there is a reason nobody goes in studies in the school of foreign affairs joe biden and kamala harris were so incredibly weak all of our enemies walked all over them for every enemy in america every enemy to america got stronger. rush it out stronger china got stronger ran got stronger, venezuela got stronger, north korea got stronger and now with the election in november, we are going to return to having a strong commander-in-chief that our enemies are scared of. got it t that to our enemies are terrified of donald trump we are seeing the world changing because they understand in less than a month trump will be back in the oval office. this is where the left gets it totally wrong. they think when you are weak, you avoid war. just exactly the opposite when you are weak your enemies are

aggressive you get what we've got now which is war when you are strong, you and i are both reagan conservatives. we believe in peace through strength when you are stronger enemies do not want to mess with you. i'm going to predict right now we will see both of these wars the war in ukraine and the war in gaza ending within months as donald trump comes into office. they will both and next year. >> this iranian nuclear developments, has to be stopped. by all signals i am seeing is donald trump once it ended comment netanyahu is desperate to get ended there actually correct. what do you predict the israelis will be finally given the ability, that is the free will to go ahead and take them out like i am hoping? what is your prediction for. >> i hope so. iran has been badly badly weekend this is been a terrible year for iran the election was a very worst outcome iran could have imagined. for four years iran is had joe

biden and kamala harris shoveling cash at them. sending over $100 billion that is finance the ayatollah. 90% of the funding for a mosque comhamascomes from my rent 90% e funding comes from iran and iran with this president was getting a payday. this election was terrible for iran. i think iran is incredibly weak their proxies are decimated. hamas is in shambles. hezbollah the entire leadership has been killed, aside in syria has fallen yet another iran a proxy. iran is in a disastrous position and come january 20 i am confident donald trump will return to a maximum pressure which means the money for iran, it is going away. think the right result i believe the right result for america and for israel is regime change in iran.

this ayatollah is a theocratic lunatic who leads a chance of death to americ american death o israel. i believe him and i think the people of iran want to be free of not say we go to war with iran what i am saying though is that we use every bit of economic pressure and diplomatic pressure to put pressure on the regime because for this ayatollah to fall would dramatically enhance american national security. this ayatollah right now today is actively trying to murder donald trump has paid for hitmen to murder the incoming president of the united states this ayatollah needs to go. mark: you exactly right. the people there want regime change our government and the passenger obama and biden actually stood in the way. ted cruz i want to thank you my friend. keep up the great work we appreciate

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♪ ♪. mark: welcome back america with america's wise man is a, victor davis hanson. hoover institution senior pilot wrofellowwrote a great book is d the case for trump. now, victor davis hanson, i notice that media and the democrats are very obsessed with elon musk they keep referencing the fact he is a billionaire party actually gives an opinion he does own twitter also known as x. he posts his opinion for the whole world to see that seems to offend them. he seems to, the last several years become quite the constitutional fiscal conservative he was not before. before they kind of liked him. richest man on earth kind of a liberal democrat. and now wait a minute, he's sort of a civil libertarian. very conservative about a number of issues so forth and so on. they are trying to attack him. they went to investigate him they are trying to come and create a wedge between him and

trump who is the real president? that sort of thing. but they are in love with george soros who is the sugar daddy for the democrat party in the radical left. and now has a progeny, his son alex is the sugar day they have affected society's that have affected the middle east they are pumping money here, pumping money there. they're pretty hypocritical about the way they treat billionaires aren't they? works are hypocritical about everything. they are worried about everybody's worried about school shootings that yell about gun control in the targeted assassin of the united healthcare assassination per th for they dy a word about guns they are consistent all the way along. they hate elon musk as much as a hate donald trump because he is successful. it is a private enterprise success is comparable to trump's and medical amazing political comeback.

he's also like to trump he is indestructible the more they try to that bout the five seminole to impeachment the stronger trump caught. they said were going to charge a $44 billion for twitter you are going to go broke. he paid that and found that he revolutionized all of social media. and they said were going to take away your deduction for electrical vehicles here in california. only your company will not get a federal right off the purchaser of your product he said fine, i don't want to be in california anyway. and then they said you have a special contract with an asset you should not have and a relationship. he basically said nasa i save the entire space program. every time they bite his ankles, just like trump to get stronger. that makes him even angrier because trump is a rare kind of politician who comes in at once

eveonceevery century that can ma whole and his counterpart in force multiplier is musky is a true renaissance man he was the first person to break in to the top three in the big three auto companies that we said you could do it, he did everybody said nasa had to have a government monopoly over this basic problem he broke that wide open. everybody said forget social media. it's hopeless at the left wing monopoly. he broke that. that is why they hate him. they hated because they cannot destroy him and every time they tried to make a fool of themselves and he get stronger. >> was her brilliant points really great point. let me ask about this also the democrat party, we talked about this last time we were on the program. there they are again in congress doing the same thing they always do. growing the government, growing the bureaucracy. i don't think the democrat party is capable of reforming itself,

do you? works not this democratic party. they made a decision during the obama hysteria exultation whatever we want to call it they were going to reject the temporary correction to the middle of bill clinton such as it was. they were going to be a socialist worker party they are going to have a cultural revolution for the going to take on everything. take off statues, rename our foundational destroy our border invent a third everything was going to be up for grabs. and they find out a completely failed and nobody wanted it. they turn to what they always return to the gwinnett scandal, collusion, disinformation, change the balancing laws. go after trump with l'affaire prete try to get them off the ballot as we said. they don't ever want to appeal to the american people and say these are issues that we know you need and want and we trust your judgment in a fair and open

election. please join us. that's not what they believed in. they open the border deliberately destroyed the border let's face it to get 12 million future constituents i should not intake future may be present that will need a massive federal aid. massive subsidies to obtain an empirically and then higher taxes. mark: we come back up interest in your opinion on this and we talked about it myself. to me, the democrat party is a lot in common with the communist parts not in every respect but in one specific respect the party is to dominate society. you and i believe country first, not party first. does the democrat party believe party first, country second or third or fourth? i want to pursue that with you because this comment to me underscores the fact the democrat party in many ways is to what the united states and with the american system is supposed to be

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mark: will come back america. we are here with victor davis hanson. my point is the democrat party really is not your normal western or american type party.

you can go back to slavery but you can go back to new gen x. you embrace marxism and so forth. in my wrong right or wrong about that? works and afraid you are right i wish you were not right but you are. you can look i at trivial two existenial examples. look at what they just did. they would rather sell off materials for the wall at $5 a ton and cost us double or triple to replace it them to protect the security of the united states just because they hate donald trump of what he stands for more than they love america. they look at the middle east any observer would say israel has done more in a year end a half to give us security and destroy our enemies and syria and iran and has made the entire middle east and all they did was meet that developments paid that helpful development for all of us with opposition because they hated netanyahu and when he stood for. they thought he was an israeli version of an american

conservative and they do that. they look they know the crime agenda and all of the das made life miserable for people in the inner-city. and they did it anyway because they wanted to be ideologically pure. i think their time is coming up when you see people yelling at mayor johnson in chicago or you see people in the latino hispanic communities you are starting to see people traditional agree with you. they agree with you. they understand this the party is in ideologically extremist party and they would rather destroy america be ideologically pure than compromise, bend and help the rest of us. so that's a pretty tough indictments i have not seen anything contradicted. quickly after this we have governor abbott in texas who is trying to enforce federal

immigration law is the federal government was not sprayed the biting regime. now we have blue state governors who are single we are going to defy it we are sanctuary states we don't care at the constitution says about the power of the federal government on immigration which is plenary. there is a whole confederacy still in the democrat party is in it? it's not slavery but it's open borders with the enslavement of women on the border and so forth and so on. and so it they defy the constitution they defy the union. isn't that what they're doing today? shouldn't we be calling that the new confederates, at least i would call them that >> or write an article about that that neil confederates because you are absolutely right. 1832 south carolina nullified the federal government the 1832 and then they did it 600 sanctuary cities jurisdictions have applied neo- confederate idea we can refute any federal

law only we can do it if utah says i do not want to follow federal handgun registration no, no, no you are a confederate only they can do it. they believe in the one 16th confederate one drop rule about race you have one drop of a particular protective minority all the sudden you're eligible for set-asides an very racist fashion. they also have the same type of economic approach to society that the old self did a very small plantation's class on top and everyone in the bottom. note middle class but that is what california is at the confederate paradigm economically. >> that's what they are it's aptly unbelievable wobsolete une are dealing with. victor davis hanson i want to thank you for everything you do. god bless you my friend. >> thank you

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