>> did it in a way that is a categorical change of the law. and abuse of the power to do that. >> do you think he was aware of every person and every single case that he carefully examined all their records and said yes, i've come to the conclusion that despite these horrific crimes, they should be pardoned? >> two days before christmas. i can only imagine the grief and the shock that these families are experiencing as they get ready for the holidays, remembering the loved ones that were lost and now having to deal with this sort of insult to injury. >> john: critics are furious with president biden's decision

to commute the sentences of 37 death row prisoners. in his latest controversial move made as his presidency limbs to a close. welcome back as "america reports" roles into a second hour. hello to you, anita. >> anita: hey, john, glad to be with you. i am anita vogel in los angeles. some of the men who have been spared the death penalty include bank robbers, mass murderers, and child killers. the families of those victims of those crimes really thrown a curveball by the american president just a few days before christmas. leo terrell is here to weigh in on his latest round of forgiveness. >> john: first let's go to alexandria hoff who is live with more. alexandria. >> good to be with you. the president says he was guided by his conscious and downgrading the sentences. he condemns the crimes of these men and also grieves with the

victims, but he added the spirit "in good conscience i cannot stand back and let a new administration resume prosecutions i halted." many critics pointing to the victims who were executed without mercy. eight and nine years old. raped and murdered. other examples, lexus roberts, 12 years old when prosecutors say thomas sanders took her and her mom on a road trip. >> thomas sanders on the way back took her mother out and executed her in cold blood in front of lexus. then slit her throat and let her die in the woods. this is someone that joe biden on the eve of christmas decided to commute his sentence. >> anita: and on that, responding in part "instead of death row, these monsters will rot in jail for life at taxpayer

expense. more coal for crime victims on his way out the door." they called the 37 among the worst killers on the world, and the president's decision "abhorrent," saying that the rule of law will return when trump is back in the white house. and king president biden, calling the death penalty a discriminatory and fundamentally inhumane punishment. a few democrats if you remember they did criticize the president for his day of clemency. i was 1500 names on the list, but even at the time they were democrats saying things like senator amy glover charted which is that some of the names on that list "make no sense." john. >> john: yeah. a lot of people are going to say a lot about this. alexandria, thank you. now this. >> if any agreement between two nations must serve the interest of both nations.

the new treaties do that. and by guaranteeing the neutrality of the panama canal, the treaties also serve the best interest of every nation that uses a canal. >> anita: well, that was president jimmy carter transferring control of the panama canal to panama, something that president-elect trump says he wants to take a look at it in his new administration. former chief of staff of the white house national security council under the first trump administration is here to react, but we begin with jacqui heinrich in new york for the very latest. tell us how our leaders reacting to this? >> mexico's president and china's foreign ministry were among the voices pushing back on his demands that panama lower the fees that they are charged or face the canal seizure. trump did not say how he would bet asserted that the u.s. is being ripped off after constructing it in the early

1900s. >> they have to treat us fairly, and they have not. the principles both moral and legal of this magnanimous gesture of giving are not followed, we will demand about the panama canal be returned to the united states of america. [cheers and applause] in full, quickly, without question. >> that true a rebuke from panama's president who wrote "every square meter belong to panama, and we will continue to be the sovereignty and independence of our country is not negotiable." after trump replied "we will see about that," posting an image of an american flag planted in the canal, singing "china will always respect panama sovereignty and recognize it as a neutral international waterway. also weighing in at her daily press conference saying that it belongs to the panamanians.

trump is also in greenland, which is an autonomous territory owned by denmark that he first sought to acquire for the u.s. in 2019. that came in a truth social post, naming his ambassador, ken howery. "for purposes of national security and freedom throughout the world, the united states of america feels that the ownersh and control is an absolute necessity. we will do a wonderful job in representing the interests of the united states." "greenland is ours. we are not for sale and will never be for sale. but showing some concern that trump is serious. also been referring to canada as the 51st state and prime minister justin trudeau as "governor." opposite reaction from the canadians. he said trump is joking as they worked to secure this northern border and avoid his tariff threats. >> anita: well, there is a new

sheriff in town, so we will see what happens in the new year. thank you so much. john. >> john: let's bring in alex for more on this. you actually wrote an op-ed about those not too long ago, saying it makes perfect sense. greenland is not for sale, but sometimes are not for sale until they are for sale, and when you look at trump, this is a guy who bought mar-a-lago for $7 million. he knows how to cut a deal. >> president trump is in the best traditions of abraham lincoln, talking about purchasing greenland in the 1860s. ronald reagan who warned -- foolishness, dangerous to our national security. 100% right. greenland adds strategic value to the united states. strategic for national security and defense. and the panama canal in the

1970s was one of the most foolhardy decisions in the history of this country. president trump is probably the first leader since ronald reagan who has the courage to do something about it, and i hope he does. >> john: how do you convince denmark which has ownership over greenland to sell? according to some reports back in 2019, trump was offering to trade puerto rico for it. give them a little tropical island. i don't think anybody would actually go for that. >> there are a lot of things that you can do to create an environment where we can take over the defense of greenland. we can take over a significant part of the national security obligations that denmark currently has four greenland. they have said publicly they are going to gain independence at some point, so when they get independence, are the chinese

are the russians going to be there to greet them and to do things that are certainly not in the sovereign interest of the people? or will it be the united states who is there to make sure both our security and the sovereignty of the green lenders themselves are protected? i would much rather have donald trump waiting for them to you get then xi jinping. >> john: really is a gorgeous place, albeit cold. also wanted to ask you about trump and the panama canal because he seems to be in a bit of an online feud with president javier molina." "it belongs to panama and will continue to be." it is nonnegotiable, to which, as he pointed out, he posted a picture of a ship with an american flag on it, saying "welcome to the united states

canal." obviously the -- is there any wy trump could take it back? >> i think we should have a serious discussion about the failure of the united states under the carter administration to give up one of our most significant strategic points in the world? one of the greatest american engineering strategic achievements in the 20th century. let's have a conversation about what is -- china is now dominating the panama canal and threatening our interest in the western hemisphere. talking seriously about what it would look like for the united states, some kind of negotiation with panama to have a future steak with more comprehensive american stake. something under teddy roosevelt. >> john: then they are saying the trolling of justin trudeau, which he continues to do mercilessly. here's what he said on

wednesday. "no one can answer why we subsidize canada to the tune of over $100 million a year appeared makes no sense. many canadians want canada to become the 51st state. they would save massively. i think it's a great idea." 51st state. i say this as a person who was born in canada and emigrated to the united states back in 1989. became a u.s. citizen a week after 9/11. for canadians, it would save them 30% going to disney world if they were using american dollars instead of canadian dollars. >> in addition to that, john, it would be nice if they canadians would spend more than 1.3% of their gdp on defense and start contribute into protecting north america. in addition to disney world, we can get some help defending our shared border. >> john: i don't think justin trudeau is going to be there much longer. i think he will be dealing with

a different guy who he might have more on his side in terms of a lot of these thorny issues between the two nations. great to see you. wish you a merry christmas. >> thanks, same to you. >> anita: a horrible accident and central florida. aid corona falling on a little boy during a holiday drone show. how this happened and the latest on his condition coming up. plus this. >> i have real concerns overall with the death penalty but i also have concerns with the executive branch overturning cases that have been decided by courts across the country. we have to have some autonomy there. >> john: some democrats not thrilled with this. can we expect more to come in his last days in office? civil rights attorney leo terrel is here with some thoughts about what we have seen so far, and he is up next.

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collided and plummeted into the crowd. a parent's nightmare. >> before they went down, the green one went straight at us. it hit my son. >> now the 7-year-old's parents say that it knocked him out on impact, causing an injury to his chest. he underwent open heart surgery. the family says the boy will be in the icu through christmas. they suggest programming failures or even some type of interference with the gps technology used link up the drones and their base camp. the city of orlando says this event was permitted by the faa, now the leading agency in this investigation and how this could happen in the first place. >> john: all right. what a shame. we wish the boy well. hope for a good outcome here. anita. >> anita: christmas came early for 37 federal death row

prisoners after president biden commuted their sentences. among them, bank robbers, men convicted of multiple homicides, and men who killed children. it is not his fi first round, bt will it be his last? civil rights attorney leo to relatives here with his thoughts. great to see you today. certainly it is a president's right to grant clemency, but the optics are questionable to so many, given the crimes here. president-elect trump is calling it "a slap in the face to all the victims." >> it is, and this is not the type of christmas you want for the victims family. children were murdered. a naval officer was murdered. these are the worst of the worst. 52, 53% of americans support the death penalty. these murderers received a justice. they went to trial.

these are the worst of the worst, and what joe biden, who is mentally unfit to stand trial himself granting clemency for their sentences, i will submit to you he is not making these decisions. he did not read the victim impact statement. he has just lining these. this is the social progress of left dictating policy as joe biden burns down the house and his last 30 days of office. >> you look at those pictures of those children, and it just breaks your heart this is happening right before christmas. opening up these wounds for families. right at christmas time. i want to put up president biden statement. he says "make no mistake. i condemn these murderers, grieve for the victims of their despicable acts, and ache for all the families who suffered unimaginable and irreparable loss, but guided by my conscious

and experience as a public defender, vice president and now president, i am more convinced than ever that we must stop the use of the death penalty at the federal level. in good conscience i cannot stand back and let a new administration resume executions that i halted. i also now want to go ahead and put up president-elect trump's response to that. let's go ahead and put that up. he says "these are among the worst killers on the world, and this important decision by joe biden is a slap in the face to the victims, their families, and their loved ones." president trump dance for the rule of law which will return when he is back in the white house. after he was elected with a massive mandate from the american people. okay, so we've got three weeks or more to go. do you think we've seen the end of these granting's of clemency? >> no. you are going to see more. i want to be very clear.

joe biden -- there is a video of this theory joe biden supported the death penalty. he was 100% behind it in the senate. i think it is very silly to anyone honestly believe that he wrote that statement. he signed these computations, and he did not look at the victim impact statements. he does not even know these individuals as far as what they went through and what they will go through by delivering this horrific decision to commute the sentence is for people who cannot be rehabilitated. people who will live out the taxpayers expense forever in jail until they die. this is ridiculous. then he separates three individuals who are not given the death penalty because these crimes are heinous. i submit to you that all of the crimes were. >> anita: that leads to my next question. let's put those three federal prisoners who are not getting clemency up on the screen. one of the two brothers

responsible for the deadly boston marathon bombing back in 2013. white nationalist who massacred nine people at a black church in charleston and robert bowers who killed 11 worshipers at pittsburgh's tree of life synagogue. he excluded these people because they were involved in terrorism and the hate motivated mass murder. but what is the difference between what they did and what some of these other people did that are getting clemency? >> thank you very much because there is no difference. 37 murderers killed people. that's the ultimate issue. people were murdered. you try to draw the distinction. you lose the argument. to separate these three murderers from the 37 who killed children, naval officers, individuals. there is no justification for it. this is a bad decision. nothing more than two hands tied donald trump's hands when he

takes office in february 2025. it is ridiculous. speak to a decision that is going to cause a lot of debate coming forward. happy holidays to you. >> happy holidays to you. thank you very much. merry christmas. >> john: the house ethics committee releasing a report on matt gaetz. what it alleges he was up to. >> basically expanded upon thinking -- we wanted to protect you there. telling you how you should live your life. >> anita: plus, senator joe manchin is slamming his former party as he heads out of the congressional door. mollie hemingway joins us and asked discuss it.

>> anita: house ethics committee accuses matt gaetz of paying women for sex, accepting

improper gifts. release this morning. chad pergram is live on capitol hill with the latest. what's the reaction here? >> good afternoon. the report says there is "substantial evidence of gaetz paying prostitutes for sex. however, some gaetz allies dismissed the report before it was even released. >> it's our report. it is not a court of law. vindictive in nature, and i just don't see what the point is. a couple of old-timers will cackle about it. it has not been proven. this is just a report. >> he tried to get a court injunction. the report would cause "irreversible damage to gaetz's reputation." just before christmas so that he

could not defend himself. mike johnson argued the ethics panel should withhold the report. that is because gaetz quick congress. >> this committee has vast resources and power. >> the ethics panel has a mixed record of releasing reports about former members. the house rejected an effort by sean kasten to compel the ethics committee to publish the report. >> if those other members who are having sex with children and doing drugs, we should be investigating that as well, but for members to say that this is somehow a change in precedent or opens up a pandora's box, i would suggest to you that the opposite is the case. >> the panel says there were 20 occasions gaetz met with women for sex or drugs. they want to be report when he was up for attorney general. the doj ended its investigation

of gaetz months ago. >> anita: chad pergram live on capitol hill for us. >> john: for more on this and other pressing stories, let's bring in mollie hemingway. you talk to a lot of the people who made these allegations. >> the department of justice looked into these allegations made by someone who is currently in prison for falsely accusing someone else of having had sex with an underage person, so the department of justice, they don't like matt gaetz about as much as the people on the hill, and they found that they were lacking credibility. that included not just as person but his friends who were the two women who also made the accusation, so it's very surprising that the ethics committee released this report, given these witnesses they are relying on where deemed to be lacking credibility by the department of justice. >> john: we will have to see those things and compare and contrast them. joe manchin with his way out the

door said that the democratic party is toxic. listen to what he said. >> what the democratic party has turned itself into, national brand, absolutely not. it has been so maligned from the standpoint of it is toxic. >> john: he's on his way out the door. we know he became an independent, but for him to say that -- >> anita: you think back to how the media coverage has been over the last eight years where they have said that donald trump is thus toxic brand, destroying the republican party, and they have no unity. you look at the actual situation. it is as unified as it has been in a very long time. you think about the legacy of barack obama and what he did to the democratic party in terms of dragging it so far to the left that it is completely out of touch with a lot of mainstream america on all sorts of issues. >> john: a lot of people did

not take too kindly to him and michelle trying to shame black men into voting for kamala harris. >> anita: the over visualization of every issue is certainly very toxic for the democratic party, and a lot of people have gotten very sick of that. they have pushed the radical trans agenda. they really think that having men play in women's sports was a good winning issue when that is like a 90/10 issue that americans actually oppose. >> john: marianne williamson who is a friend, calling for a top-down recalibration of the democratic party and the dnc appeared "donald trump is not our problem. he has never been our problem. the problem is the space the democrats left open which he simply walked into, leaving far too many people desperate even when we have the power to help you to be created the inevitable phenomenon that the most cursory reading of history predicts. he did not so much succeed as the democratic party failed.

still so many democrats who will not acknowledge that that happened. >> anita: i think it is kind of wrong to say that his appeal was that he was a strong man. you look at his pretty moderate positions on all sorts of things -- >> john: he has a strong candidate who believes in american values. >> anita: the policies appealed to men of all different races. they were just normal working class issues. men and women i should say. i think that does provide the opportunity for democrats now too if someone comes in and strongly renounces so many of the people who are prominent like aoc, certainly compelling but also pretty extreme. there is a huge opportunity in the democratic party for someone who is moderate and sane and normal to renounce some of this history and grab voters again. >> john: here's what a democrat who is on the finance committee said. >> the american people understand that the

democratic party, they exist in their ivory towers that are so far removed from reality. these cultural -- these ridiculous wars are not what americans care about. >> john: the transgender issue and sports is this big, but in terms of getting votes out, it was huge. >> anita: they say it affects a small percentage of people, but when you renounce distinctions, that affects everybody. we are starting to see how these viewpoints were dominating the democratic party, and i think she makes a great point there appear they are not communicating with average americans. they are in an echo chamber. they have been helped by the corporate media complex that riles them up, but they see the same corporate media complex that she was democrats and was enough to bring democrats across the finish line for decades is now it's all so far out of touch with the average american that they are all being -- they are all just being ignored. >> john: a lot of american voters rejected with the

democratic party was doing in terms of shaming them. if you do not share their views, you don't just have a different perspective, you are a horrible horrible person. here is what joe manchin had to say about that. >> it is basically an infringement on me making decisions. they have expanded upon thinking well, we want to protect you there, but we will tell you how you should live your life. >> john: people did not like that. >> anita: it is really striking for how long that did work. i was basically the obama campaign here not working anymore. >> john: this is sebastian. in new york city, 33 years old, the man charged with a horrific incident yesterday on the subway in manhattan. on a train in brooklyn. where he allegedly took out later and set a woman who was

sleeping in one of the subway cars on fire. there were pictures of her literally engulfed in flames in that subway car. she later died from her inj injuries, so the charges against him obviously are going to be very, very strong, but this is him. sebastian zapeta. summer of 2018, he entered the united states illegally. he was deported not long after that, and then at some point he reentered the country again. ice cvp know not where or one. he is one of those "got aways." we do not know what they were coming here for. by and large we know where this guy is from. we don't know where they are from or what their intentions are. >> anita: a great example of how the illegal immigration story has been presented as if you are a good person, you are kind, you allow these people to

illegally cross the border and stay here. you look at what some of the consequences are of that perspective that we have had the whole country subjected to. on the policy front, you might point out that the new york city subway, we recently saw the prosecution of someone who tried to step in to protect people in the car and one of the subway cars from being hurt by another individual who was mentally unwell, and when you prosecute people who are doing good things like that, you see sometimes why people are standing by and doing nothing in the case that we saw here. >> john: we don't know what the perpetrator in the daniel penny case would have done to somebody, but we know what this fella allegedly did. he killed her with the later.at molly,io thank you. we will be right. about what comes next in life. for her. i may not be in perfect health, but i want to stay in my home,

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mangione with just two days before christmas, amazon delivery drivers are holding the picket line. live pictures from queens right there. people on the picket lines. more drivers joining the protests over the weekend also appeared teamsters say its members want "fair treatment and higher wages." they insist the walkout is not impacting customers during the busy holiday season. we hope not. cohosts of the big-money shell wire with us to talk more about this. hi, guys. good to have you. i'm a little confused here because these people on the picket lines want to be unionized, but amazon does not want to recognize the union. is that what is happening here? >> there is a basic dispute about whether these unionized members actually work for amazon

or if they work for third-party delivery companies, in which case they are not technically amazon employee's and not union members of amazon. at the very heart of this is a dispute about who these folks actually wors the issue at playd can the union get sympathy for their cause? right now it does not seem like they are getting a ton of sympathy on this from the american people. i think americans are pretty pro-worker. i don't think that's the issue, but when you've got a union kind of holding american families hostage at christmas time and thinking you're not going to get your packages, that is a hard way to build goodwill. the timing might be bad, but i don't know that these guys are making their case to americans who have worked hard and do not have a lot of spare change to put together for christmas. i don't know that they are making the case to them that they should not have their

packages delivered right now. >> anita: no kidding. a lot of americans waiting to have those before wednesday. it does seem that it is a small minority of these facilities where we see these picket lines. let's put up a map right now so that you can see exactly where this is happening. i think eight or nine different locations. seven or eight or nine different locations across the country. you see it there. this is just a small slice because amazon has facilities all over the country. warehouses everywhere. do you think this is going to make a big impact before christmas? should americans be worried about not getting their gifts and time? >> if you listen to amazon, they say there are minor delays but that they are going to be major disruptions and they are working through and of course maintaining their logistics so that there are not massive disruptions to consumers. for me this comes down to basic affordability, and that is what

the selection was about. you have the machinists striking at boeing a few months ago. this comes down to after inflation, take-home pay is not higher than it was four years ago. we feel poor rude then we were four years ago because america is outpacing take-home pay, so whether you sympathize with unions or you don't, it comes back to the general feeling that workers feel like after inflation and after taxes, i'm not making enough money at the end of the day to be able to feed my family. this feeds into exactly why trump was elected. >> when it comes to holiday shopping which everyone is doing now, i want to put up a survey showing the average american and what they are going to spend. here you go. $2,000. that is the average amount of money people are spending on the holiday. travel, holiday spending, hosting parties, food, clothing, other gifts.

one more number. there is another survey that says parents are going to spend an average of $461 per child and 49% of parents are going to go into debt to pay for christmas. what do you guys think about these numbers? brian, chime in. >> i kind of hope my kids are not watching. i don't know if we spent 460 bucks on them. sorry. love you. you've got to budget a little bit at christmas time. it's worth celebrating. i'm glad americans want to spend, but borrowing a tip from dave ramsey, when you put somebody's name on your list, write a number next to it so you know how much you will spend on them. then you will not end up in debt. >> i know you have a toddler at home, but just the way it as that toddler becomes four, five, six, seven, it adds up. >> i was told this is the last

christmas way she does not know that it's christmas, so i actually did not get her anything. we are pretending at least in terms of financially that it does not exist. she will get to open up a present from her grandmother, and that is about it. >> anita: you've got to love that. great to see you today. merry christmas to both of you. >> merry christmas. >> john: as we approach the day before christmas eve, folks in north carolina still reeling from the aftermath of hurricane helene, facing a new challenge. plunging winter temperatures and snow reaching dangerous levels. but also posing a risk for drinking water. we will explain, coming up.

>> john: it's spend nearly three months now since dudley hurricane helene hit north carolina. folks there are not out of the woods. cold weather is barreling into that region along with snow, threatening to freeze pipes and damage infrastructure for families already struggling to get water into their homes. one organization is providing hope this season. joining us now. good to talk to you. what's the situation generally they are in north carolina for

people who have been suffering so much in the last remounts? >> as you all can see, the temperatures are plunging, having a difficult impact on a lot of these families. a number of folks that lives in double wives, and the flood has knocked out there insulation, and so we are now trying to make deliveries and get as much insulation as we can. sometimes we will make it before the pipes freeze. sometimes we don't, so we have some amazing partners that will help us with plumbing and aims that can try to replace the pipes as quickly as they can, but it feels like we are chasing our tails. we've got another one to run to. it is challenging right now, but we are doing the best we can with what we have got. >> anita: it's anita vogel. i had the opportunity to speak to you on another program, and i remember you told us you are use to doing this work all around

the world in far-flung places like nepal, the amazon, dominican republic. it is unusual for you to be doing this work right here in the united states. it's got to be a little bittersweet at christmas time. >> it is. it is. i just kind of get in the mode, try not to get too emotionally attached, put my nose down, do the work. it is harder when it is in your own backyard with friends and family. it helps me to really empathize with the community and the people because they are our people right here, but it's difficult. we are three months and right now, and we are able to do so much as a country, sunday a rocket ship up in outer space and populate other planets one day maybe, but we are having a hard time getting people drinking water right here in north carolina and simple things like insulation. this is a little bit of a different take on santa's sleigh, but people need insulation to go underneath

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