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>> edward: forget about the presents under the tree. it is the gift of green from austria that has investors cheering. hello, i'm edward lorenz and this is a special edition of "your world." despite last week's sell-off, you are poised to have a banner year in the market. what can we expect for the coming year? let's get to read from our market prose, scott martin and kimberly foss. i want to start with you on this because of the sweater, if nothing else. >> of course, start there. and end there, too. >> edward: the word of the day for the federal reserve's "uncertainty." the markets did not like the forecast last week of only two interest rate cuts. how do you see this shaking out in the first quarter? >> busy. volatile, kind of like the sweater. things have been easy. like he said, it's been a great year. there hasn't been a lot of downside or a lot of fits and starts. sure, there were concerns from the naysayers that there was going to be this big recession. bank failures, corporate

real estate, et cetera. none of that ever happen. the weird thing to me, while things look like a primrose path, i think there are challenges ahead, especially with the federal reserve earlier this month, cutting rates one more time at 25 basis points, which is probably going to be the last time, but unnecessary nonetheless. and the fact, too, edward, people think trump is going to have this leisurely walk through the white house and through government as it is when you get into office. i disagree with that. i think things are going to be more challenging than folks think and therefore the market probably jumped ahead a little bit before he gets into reality. and we've got to see what happens after that with regard to what he can push through once he gets through inauguration. >> edward: kim, no sweater, but i will still go to you on this. people open their presents, and they bought those presents for 20.5% more than they bought it four years ago. how much are you focused on the consumer spending for 2025? how important is that going forward? >> i think it's very important, and people are still -- i just took out my office to a christmas dinner last night and

it was over $100 for each of us. we just had a couple appetizers and one drink. it's insane. so i think people are still feeling that in the inflation in their pocket book, and that has got to come down for people to feel good about moving forward with their purchases and expanding the economy. >> edward: but do you think -- just following up on that, do you think it equates to wall street? is wall street concerned about the consumer and stocks? ali tied to consumer spending? >> absolutely. with interest rates where they are and the fed cutting last week, but then there forecast saying they're only going to cut two times next year, it is a tight rope i think we are walking, and it's going to be data driven. we are going to have to look at what is growing, if they are getting inflation under control, and looking at maybe inflation cooling to 2.4% toward the end of next year. if that is good, they definitely

want to cool it, but who is going to -- how is that going to progress as time goes on? and that is going to affect consumers and the snack racket and the growth of the stock market >> edward: president trump coming to office in january, to bring prices down, does that expectation of prices falling taken impact on stock next year and maybe what sectors? >> obviously some of these sectors have made beaucoup profits and that translates to earnings and the stock goes up. other places, not so sure. consumer staples, grocery stores, there's not a ton of profit even though stuff is expensive. i know, boys and girls. but as a lot of hands and they're making it expensive. it's basically one of the other. there are some areas that trump will help, but i also think a lot of this is supply and demand. as we've come out of covid, there's been more demand and thankfully more supply.

if there is a market price for things and they happen be higher because they don't make the economy is good, that's what we have to pay like we have to pay higher interest rates on things. guess what? your interest rate shouldn't be a zero forever like we thought it would be, and therefore there's a new reality had of us and we get used to it. to be don't yet know the scope of the tariffs are what countries other than china will be targeted. what impact does this have on prices? >> i think obviously the tariffs will help the united states in producing goods and services, and cause people to buy goods and services here in the united states. however, consumers are going to pay more for those goods and services. we got to remember, china and canada and mexico are 40% of our trade. so we've got to make sure that we are walking that tight rope, that i think the administration kind of has a feel for that and

hopefully will be able to walk that tight rope and be a positive for our country. >> make canada the 51st state. free-trade. >> that's a debate for another show. we're not going there right now. i want to ask about stocks. the federal reserve started that cutting cycle for interest rates. the 10-year treasury seems to keep rising as they are cutting rates. that is the one that mortgage rates are set office. what do you think? >> bad sign. if that doesn't tell jay powell he should be hit in the face with a chill pill, that is probably what the market is telling him. stocks or bonds, maybe neither consciously. it might be something like a bitcoin type of year which makes me go crazy at night. i used to be against bitcoin, but you got to jump on the bandwagon sometime. there's going to be a lot more than folks think, and traditional assets, just buckle down and be ready to buy a lot

of stuff on the dips and not on the high's. >> edward: kim, where are you? stocks, bonds, or bitcoin? >> well, not bitcoin, but yeah. do we all wish we would have bought that last year? absolutely. but it's too volatile. i think i'm in the camp of, we are fully diversified, 44 different countries, 12,500 different stocks. you need to be diversified in the portfolio, and yes, i agree, keep some dragonpad on the sideline so you can buy into the markets. but here's the thing, the united states stock market is the greatest wealth creation tool in the history of the world. so long as markets are free, 401(k) people, anyone between elon musk on the way down to joe the plumber is going to be able to make money in this market. you need to stay in the market and have your risk commensurate with the ability to take risk and to stay in that market for the long term.

>> edward: i appreciate it. that was the sale, listen to? that sweater. you got that on sale, didn't you? >> i found it in the street, actually. i needed something to wear. if it's great, doesn't it? come on. >> edward: merry christmas to both of you. i appreciate it. you might be getting some extra green and the new year if president-elect trump can get his tax cuts extended, but even with the g.o.p. controlled congress, it may not be a slam-dunk. and why some of you are saying thanks but no thanks when it comes to holiday tipping this year. we'll explain. ♪ ♪

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>> edward: taxpayers hoping for a bonus christmas gift in the new year. president-elect trump looking to extend his 2017 tax cuts and potentially add some new ones into the mix. but with congress also looking at the border as a top priority, let's find out if both possibilities can happen. joining me now is brandon arnold from the national taxpayers union. first of all, thanks for being here. we know about the tax cuts. if they don't get extended, that is a tax increase on basically all americans. can both of these priorities be done, do you believe? >> absolutely. ideally they have to be done in the same package. they have a lot of strong opinions in the conference, and the best way to get tax reform done as well as other important priorities like the border, energy reforms, is to beautify them all together so yout viewps

for the country. >> edward: if they split them up, do you think maybe something doesn't get finished? >> that's possible. it certainly makes it less likely to get good quality taxn. that being said, if that's the direction we are going in, we are going to fight like heck to get a good tax bill across the finish line to the president's desk and enacted into law. >> edward: does the tax is part of a need to be done in year one? is a need to be done quickly? >> it needs to be done relatively quickly. at the end of 2025, just about a year from now, these tax cuts are going to sunset. this would be a major tax increase on american families, on small businesses. it would cause a lot of headaches for household budgets as well as a real hit to the american economy at large. >> edward: i would ask you one of the criticisms of extending the tax cuts in adding these new taxes is it would increase the federal debt. there is no pay-forwards in it. are you concerned about that? >> i am. i think the deficit is a major problem. we're looking at a $36 trillion national debt right now, there's no reason they can't emulate a lot of we did in 2017.

that wasn't just about cutting taxes. it's about reforming the tax code in its entirety. so we eliminated a lot of deductions, a lot of credits, lowered some of those -- reduced some of those inequities in the tax code in order to create really good tax policy, a real boost to the economy and helped a lot of households. >> edward: see you believe there could be offsets? >> there of out to be, they also open up the door to make as much of this tax bill as possible permanent so we don't throw the ball back into the court of congress six years down the road when we don't know who will be president and we don't know who will be calling the shots. >> edward: president-elect trump gets is of a tax cuts signed into law. what impact will all those tax cuts have on main street in 2025? >> if we do it right, it'll be a huge boon for main street. that's really critical here. i think people elected president trump because of the economic woes, because prices have increased so dramatically across the board. we need to get back to where we

were in 2018, 2019. taxes aren't the only solution for that. obviously energy policy and other deregulatory measures are part of the equation. but taxes are first and foremost to getting the economy back where it was a few years ago. >> edward: do you think growth can add revenue? >> yes, there's no question about it. growth should be the primary objective here. growth and helping average family succeed. those not to be our top priorities. growth can be achieved with good tax policy that encourages american companies to invest domestically here. that's what we did in 2017 and we need to redo it because some of these provisions have expired. >> edward: when you talk about growth, that's a big word. give people a tax break, they can spend more. is that the growth? >> that's a basic philosophy, absolutely. when things like being able to write off those big investments that companies make -- if they're going to go out and make investments and factories and machinery and farm equipment and

so forth, those should be immediately deductible. that's what we did in 2017. unfortunately, due to some cost-cutting measures, those have started to fall off the books entirely already. see when you talked about the federal debt a little bit. if families ran their finances like the federal government, what would happen to them? >> unfortunately a lot of families are being forced to right now. we have seen credit card debt absolutely skyrocket, the highest in american history. with interest rates as high as they are, we are seeing default rate super high. that's really concerning. another reason why we need to get tax policy right and do so in a fiscally response will manner. that high debt at the national level hurts the economy and hurt average americans. >> edward: in the last 20 seconds we have left, the federal debt, everybody talks about the debt bomb. what is it going to be a massive problem that has to be dealt with? and next year or the year after? >> that's a problem, we don't know exactly when that debt bomb explodes. we have seen other countries like japan overspend and really

undermined the economic growth as a result of too much debt. we can't allow ourselves to get back to that position. d.o.g.e. needs to be part of this solution, as is congress. everyone needs to row in the same direction and cut our debt and get the nation back on track. >> edward: thank you very much. from the taxpayers union. i appreciate it. santa delivered the goodies. can he deliver a smooth trip home after the holidays? ho-ho-no. go-friends, gather! keke! chris!

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>> and mike emanuel from fox news in washington. merry christmas. "your world" continues for a moment but first that he is big. president-elect donald trump is taking swings on the golf course and social media this christmas today, calling canada's prime minister "governor justin trudeau," and saying if candidate was to become the 51st state they would pay less in taxes and be protected by the military like no other country anywhere in the world. house speaker mike johnson will soon find out whether he has enough support from his conference to retain the gavel. that vote happens on january 3rd. president trump has not publicly weighed in yet. many migrant children are spending the holidays without their family, as the number of unaccompanied minors has surged under the biden administration with thousands and accounted for. incoming border czar tom homan says one of his priorities is finding those missing migrant children. i'll be back for "special report" live at 6:00 eastern. now back to "your world."

>> edward: packed those peasants and hold on to patience for the return flight, or drive home. aaa expecting it to be the busiest christmas and new year travel season on record. let's talk to our go to travel expert. before we get some tips, what is driving this holiday surge we have been seeing over thanksgiving and now over christmas? >> it seems like every holiday we have had in the last year or two has set a new record, right? people are just itching to travel, whether it's flying or driving, and they surely are doing it. everyone talks about the cost of everything going up. it surely is not affecting the travel industry, that's for sure. >> edward: aaa predicts that 119 million people will travel more than 50 miles between last saturday and january 1st. why do we seem to keep setting these travel records, even though prices, as you talk about, are up? >> yeah, it is actually

completely confusing to everybody involved, because it really just doesn't make sense. it's complete a counter intuitive to what's really going on. the previous guest mentioned that credit card debt is at an all-time high, so i think that might have something to do with it. but regardless, you're still going to have to do with it whether you're at the airport or on the roads. you've g got a kind of plan ahed whether you fly at off-peak times or drive at off-peak times, which i highly suggest. especially if you are in some of the colder parts of the country, keep an eye on the weather, because there's nothing worse than weather delays at the holidays. >> edward: give me some of those tips for traveling. let's take airlines first. fares are up in the last 12 months. what can you recommend for those traveling by air going home to. >> first of all, be patient, because you're probably going to experience delays, especially in the colder weather cities, expecting a little bit of whether potentially over christmas and new year's.

so we will see how that goes. but at the same time, fly at off-peak times, try to fly early in the day, because if you experience a delay or cancellation at the first flight, you are much more likely to get out if you go early then if you take, say, the last flight out of the day where you have to end up getting a hotel or something like that. also, if something happens, make changes on the airline app. don't wait in line at the airport. don't call. you just going to be wasting your own time or you can easily do it on the app. have travel insurance, because airlines are not required to compensate you if things happen, in most instances, whereas travel insurance would generally cover you for expenses incurred. like i said, be patient and don't be rude to the people at the airport because they're not going to help you if you are a jerk. >> edward: exactly. and some credit cards also offer that travel insurance if you buy on a certain credit card brady have to read with the fine print

says. but where people going? is there one destination that stands out over another? >> i'm not sure if it's really one destination in particular. mexico is always a huge holiday travel place because obviously the weather. i'm actually going to mexico next week, so i'm really excited about that. and people are going to europe, maybe after the new year, because you can get some pretty good deals out there. i actually just got back from europe myself, and you travel at off-peak times, that's where you can really find some good deals. but over the holidays, i feel like people are generally -- if the not going to the family's house or wherever it might be, going to someplace warm in general, or if you are a skier you're probably going to a ski destination, but it's really expensive during the holidays, as you know. >> edward: you're going to have to do is you have some great trips. the kids get all these gifts and i have to get on a plane. one of the car maybe has an

extra room, but do you have any travel tips for folks to bring presents home? >> one of my biggest tips is don't check a bag if you don't have to, especially if you're connecting to wherever you're going. because it gives the airline more of a chance to lose your presence or your bags or whatever it might be. there's a lot of services out there that actually ship your presents and you can talk to family in advance and be like, if you give me some type of big present and i'm traveling, maybe just ship it to my house ahead of time and save on the hassle. honestly, that's what i do in my family. so i think that's a pretty good tip. otherwise you're just going to find yourself aggravated getting on the plane, for sure. >> it might be too late for some now. in the last 20 seconds or so that we have left, going forward into 2025, does it look like the trips are booking domestically or internationally? >> i think it's a little bit of both. record numbers of americans are traveling abroad. more people have passports than

ever before, and i think with the onset of social media and other things people want to get out and explore. let's face it, the numbers don't lie. >> edward: i appreciate it. thank you for this christmas edition of your tips. merry christmas to you, too. appreciate it. tipping on the rise during the holiday season. we've got the reason coming up. and the holiday tradition that will have many americans saying "you shouldn't have." ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ >> edward: 'tis the season for tipping, but we need to find out why the top reasons folks are shelling out. >> during christmas time, generous as can be. give, give, give. >> it's a wonderful time to share and be kind. >> if i sit down, i'll tip. if i stand up, i want to. >> i like to when i get my nails done, when i get my hair done. >> we should know is have to see a tipping option on our screens. >> if you're going to encounter. but if you're sitting down at a table.

>> so there are limits in your world? >> yeah. >> generally starting at 22% n now. i'm like, okay. how much interaction did i get from human being? >> throw in a couple extra bucks, why not? it's december, i it's the holidays. >> merry christmas! >> edward: let's see if this check that with our panel. comedian and entertainment correspondent are here. why do you tip, first of all? >> i like to tip for good service. when it somebody does something you appreciate, that's what it used to be about. now it's kind of expected that you tip, and people get angry if you don't do it. so it's a whole different thing. but i like -- i go to rest stops. bathroom attendants who never get tip, i like to tip them. that of someone who really appreciate it. >> edward: a new banquet survey says tipping is out of

control. i'm starting to see the machines now, they start their tis at 20% and go up from there. has greed gotten into this tipping thing? >> i think it really has. i think people are so fed up at this point with tipping, because they are being asked to give people money when those people don't exist. they are essentially being asked to give computers money, and i really don't think a computer needs a tip, to be completely honest. i think the sad thing is it is making people jaded about giving tips to those who actually deserve them. >> edward: good tip, look both ways across the street. i'm curious if you think we tip for too many things. in europe, tipping is not a huge thing. i'm tempted to put a jar here for mary pat to give me a tip for what we're doing here. but has gone too far? >> yeah, it completely has. i'm at the point where i feel like we're going to get pulled over for a speeding ticket and there'll be a tip clause at the bottom of it where you have to tip your police officer. it's gotten so out of control. people expect it. not getting paid the salary they

need, apparently, so we are taking care of the extra for them, and it's not fair. >> and want to move on to another subject. "and you shouldn't have, really." a report saying around $10 million will be spent in america on gifts that will ultimately be shunned and regifted. what do you make of that? >> i think it goes back to the tipping obligation. people give gifts for the sake of it, not because they want to but because they feel they have to. that therefore means they don't really put in any effort. i don't know about you, that i myself have been guilty of regifting something that i didn't want. i know the person i'm giving it to you doesn't want it, but at the end of the day i do it as a token gesture. i think these gifts just in it being passed around for years to come. the wrapping paper probably get reused at this point. >> edward: in the box, too. i think i've done that. have you regifted? >> oh, definitely. 100%. gift cards, i regift a lot. i got a gift card for $5 for

starbucks once, which -- that just cost you money. that's one of the worst gifts you can possibly give. but it is easy to regift a card, especially when it's a big gift like billy bass big mouth or whatever those junk gifts are. i toss those. stealing isn't coffee at starbucks $8 now? so $5 gets you what, a third of a coffee? let's look at it this way. calling it "resting gift face," that is the age-old practice of staking excitement over a disappointing present during the holidays. a new survey found half of americans have been there. how about you, charlie? have you been there? >> i've deftly been guilty of doing resting gift face, but the truth is we all need a little bit more honesty this holiday season. because that will put an end or at least begin to stop this crazy out-of-control gifting for the sake of it. i think it is fair to say to someone, thank you so much, i really appreciate you making

this kind gesture. i actually don't have a place in my life for this billy big bass or candle that smells like hot cocoa. i really push at the gesture and please keep it for yourself or gift it to someone else who needs it. >> edward: sometimes a handmade card is one of the nicest. do you have your gift, you're excited gift face? >> i mean, yeah. it depends on how bad the gift is. sometimes you can't fake it. i've gotten self-help books and you have to give a dirty look after that one. you can't act excited. on the same token, like charlie is saying, there are so many bad gifts, why don't people just give amazon gift certificates? you can put it in the card, it covers everything. we all shop on amazon. instead of flowers that die a ridiculous gifts you just throw out or regift, let's do an amazon gift cards. >> edward: here is some sweet news for this time of year. a new study finding that eating some dessert too may actually be better for your heart and no

sugar at all. charlie, too good to be true? >> i think they come out with the studies every month or so. it is an excuse, especially this time of year, to justify our over indulgences. i'm going to sound so boring, and this is not a mantra i want anyone to take into the holiday season, but the fact of the matter is the healthiest way of living is everything in moderation. i'm sorry, but that's it. >> edward: i love those chocolate covered pretzels that we just saw on the screen. what do you think? too good to be true? are you going out for some chocolate? >> charlie is right. this sounds like a study that was sponsored by twinkies. indulge, go ahead, it's good for you! but i love the studies. i pointed out anyone telling me to eat less dessert. it's like those studies that tell you drinking three or four glasses of wine is good for you. i cite those all the time. and like, hey, i'm doing something good for my health.

>> edward: how do twinkies get those feelings? and it is perfectly secure inside. there's no openings. i don't get it. >> magic! >> edward: right, magic. i want to go back to this tipping thing really quickly. you see it everywhere. do you think that, at some point, there will be a backlash, and people just stop tipping? >> i think so, for sure. the pendulum swings one way and then it swings the other, and i think we are going to reach a point where people can't afford all of this tipping and simply don't want to. so it is coming, the tipflation backlash is on its way. another thing to look forward to in 2025. >> edward: tipflation, that's a new engine me. i appreciate it. great conversation. i wish we had more time, but merry christmas to both you. i appreciate you for being here. gas prices not eating as much into your budget lately. will the trend be your friend in the new year?

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>> edward: holiday travelers getting some relief at the pump with the national average for regular unleaded hovering around $3 a gallon. this as president-elect trump is set for an energy push in the new year. so who better to ask about the changes then fox news contributor phil flynn? good to see you. the president-elect says that he will unleash american energy. how quickly do you think he will make these changes and the changes will impact us? >> well, i think it's already happening. i don't know if it was santa claus or president trump's incoming energy policy that put these gas prices back to the lowest level since the last time he was in office, but a combination of those factors are there. that's what i love about the

futures market. it always looks ahead. right now what we are seeing in the cost of oil and in gasoline is very optimistic as we head into the new year. >> edward: it's probably the market looking forward, right? to these policies that are coming to a ready think oil settles, and what does that mean for gas prices in 2025? >> you know, i think we could have two different stories. earlier in the show you are playing "run, run, rudolph." we should be playing "run, run, refineries." they been at a record high to keep up with demand. not only here in the united states, that around the globe. the key thing is, i think sometimes we get so focused on price. we should focus on demand. i think the market is excited about a coming economic boom, really. and i think we are seeing that in gasoline prices. listen, oil prices could continue to go up a little bit, but it doesn't matter, because if the economy is growing we are

not going to feel that. >> edward: interesting. it could ripple, though. let's say oil settles down, let's say the president get some of his policies passed. it looks like maybe executive action for some of the pipeline things. you have a ripple effect. let's say you bought an electric car. if the price of oil -- it still affects you, right? >> it really does. the funny thing about these electric cars, the last administration spent i think billions of dollars to try to encourage the use of these cars. let's face it, we are just not buying them, right to? and so i think letting the market decide what we buy is a much better choice. and just buy that, you're going to see inflation come down, because the government is going to quit spending money on boondoggles and at a lower inflation because at a lower government spending. let's face it, that's what causes inflation. >> edward: space phil,

president trump has threatened tariffs. >> there's no doubt about it. there's geopolitical risk factors from the tariffs. that could cause prices to go up. on the flip side of that, there is also the positive activity of u.s. oil production rising. so the competition is going to be real, and i think it's going be good for the u.s. oil industry. >> edward: in the last 20 seconds i have, president trump says he'll approve the keystone xl pipeline when he gets into office. but that is just symbolic, right? sending a message to the pipeline industry. because that project has already been scrapped. >> that's exactly right. that's the thing, the keystone pipeline became a metaphor for green energy versus other types of energy. at the end of the day, america is now open for business in the new year, and believe me, there's a lot of canadian pipeline companies that are already -- they've already got a little christmas list out,

trying to draw out where they want those pipelines to go. >> edward: very interesting. phil flynn, merry christmas. thank you for coming on today. i appreciate it. up next, getting back to the people who always had our backs. you are watching "your world."

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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> edward: so finally, how can we help the officers who help us? the wounded blue is an organization that assists thousands of police officers injured in the line of duty and this holiday season it is bringing back a fundraising drive that was a big success last year. joining us now, randy sutton, former's las vegas metro police officer and founder of wounded blue. also country music star john berry. welcome to you both.

full disclosure, i know randy from when i was a local reporter in las vegas. tell us about the wounded blue and how it started. >> the wounded blue is the national assistance and support organization for injured and disabled law enforcement officers. it is a nationwide charity that i founded about five years ago. during that time, we have helped more than 14,000 american law enforcement officers who have been injured or disabled, and when we talk about injuries, the injuries are physical, but injuries are also emotional and psychological and postherpetic stress can be as real as a so my entire team is made up of officers who have been shot or stabbed or beaten or run over or faced serious psychological trauma and commode on the other side, i have officers who are in wheelchairs, and they continue to serve and they continue to serve by helping these officers deal with their injuries and it is amazing work. like i said, this is an

organization that is changing lives, saving lives, saving marriages and careers, and i couldn't be more proud to be the founder of it. >> edward: so, john, how did you become involved in this? >> i was invited come i have friends of mine who have been a part of this, i have friends of mine, i heard the autographed guitars and i got in on autographing the guitars, people like chris young, crystal jail, tracy lawrence is a good friend, craig morgan, neal mccoy, laurie morgan, they sign these guitars come along with myself, that people can purchase, $1,000, you can buy one of these guitars. that's a pretty amazing thing. guitars for cops.com and purchase one of these guitars come and the funds go to help these heroes. >> edward: it's a great cause. randy, tell us about that fundraiser, guitars for cops, what is different for about it? >> this is amazing. country music artists have always been steadfast in their support of american

law enforcement. even during the dark days that we saw, and guitars for cops is tremendous, amazing country artists, i mean, there are so many. there is hank williams jr., george strait, tanya tucker, and they are signing guitars to help us raise money to help injured and disabled officers from across this nation. i've never seen anything like it. the whole list is on guitarsforcops.com. it is amazing. >> edward: last year, reba mcentire, kid rock, john berry now, so john come i want to ask you, what does this mean for you to be able to be part of this, and give back in this way? >> it means a lot to me because one of my dearest friends is a police officer in texas, and my managers sought is a police officer in north atlanta, and doing something that could potentially help them or help

their partners is really an important step to do. it really matters. >> edward: and adding your name adds the recognition, not that the organization needs it, but adds even more recognition to this. randy, i covered the story of a sergeant in las vegas when he was ambushed for responding to a domestic violence call in 2006 and he lost his life. there was another officer who was injured. your organization doesn't just help the one time the officers injured. it continues, right? >> we have relationships with officers who have been injured, we began five years ago and we still have relationships with officers who have been injured, either physically or psychologically. i just came back from ferguson, missouri, just last week, where officer travis brown, was put in a coma, we gave that officers family, he's got two children, for christmas, $5,000 a month for the next year, while he is recovering from his devastating injuries, and this is what the wounded blue does. our motto is "never forgotten, never alone," and that is what

we believe, and i can't thank john berry enough for coming on and supporting us, as well as all those other amazing country artists. >> edward: john, you obviously have a guitar you are going to put on there. how did you pick out the guitar? tell me about it a little bit, what you are putting out. >> well, you know, just making a guitar available for purchase to help with these heroes of ours, and i'm just thrilled to be part of it and thrilled we could make a contribution. >> edward: so, randy, last 30 seconds, i want to ask you, you know, how is this -- is this your way to give back by starting this organization? >> i loved being a cop, and i unfortunately became disabled in the mind of duty myself, and in the time that i have left, i continue to want to serve my brothers and sisters, and if any officer is listening to this and

needs help, please reach out to me, randy at the wounded blue.org, and we will be there for you, never forgotten, never alone. >> edward: we will never forget the sacrifice that you guys make. randy, john berry, i appreciate it, thank you for your time and merry christmas both of you. so, thanks for joining us on this christmas day. hope it has been a great holiday. "the five" starts now. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [bells ringing] ♪ ♪ es