do it. there is no reason most people should be spending this much time. >> mike: allie, what about that advice, make your kids do it? some would say may be more aggravation than it is worth. >> no, i am so on board. make your kids do more. rick toman, longbow, shovel snow, that is what kids are four. >> that's why i decided to have a child. >> that makes sense. >> mike: thanks to both of you, great to have both of you come and best of luck with a baby on a the way. >> thank you. >> mike: thank you for joining us. thank you for joining us on holiday season. i am mike emanuel, back at 11:00 tonight for fox news at night. "the five" from new york city is up next. have a great day. ♪ ♪

>> hello, everyone. katie have alleged, dr. saphier, jessica tarlov, joey jones. it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five." ♪ ♪ well, the big guy is leaving all his troubles behind as he goes on island time. president biden getting one last taxpayer-funded trip to the beaches of st. croix and his son hunter tagging along. the lame duck will be there until the new year and will have plenty of time to clear his mind or whatever is left of it, leaving office in 25 days, his legacy in shambles. joe hitting his lowest approval rating since taking office, and he is hated by his own party who blame him for kamala's bruising loss in november. and yet, despite it all, there is very little that joe biden regrets.

according to "the new york times," the president does not regret debating mr. trump in june which led to his campaign imploding. he has no regrets on naming his economic plan bidenomics, and he does not regret moving forward with his disastrous afghanistan withdrawal. really, joe? >> any other regrets that you have, anything you wish he would have done differently? >> well, i guess if i thought about it, there would be something, specifically, but not generically. i set out to do two things. restore america's leadership in the world, i think i've done that, and two, to generate opportunity for ordinary people. >> katie: it's no wonder by the residence friends and allies in the media are doing their best with joe's tarnished legacy, one liberal commentator suggesting they name a tunnel after him. >> it should be called the biden tunnel, the most complex

infrastructure project funded by joe biden. no one could get it done, no one. then came joe biden. >> we are going to have a responsibility, i certainly, whatever i might be doing by with a day job, i will be remaining everybody who will listen. quite a few people who maybe won't. that these things are happening because joe biden. >> he is that standard-bearer for what the founding fathers put in place. he wants checks and balances, and he wants to make sure everything goes well. >> katie: well, tom, president for four years and all he gets is a dang tunnel. >> tom: it's unbelievable. we went on the list of his accomplishments and he went over some of the things, the disastrous withdrawal, the economy, printing money during covid, essentially causing the inflation we are experiencing now. but none of it, none of it compares to what i think is his lasting shameful legacy, i saw his christmas message, and we are neighbors, we are not

enemies. he treated the opposition as an enemy for his entire term in office. it was a live from the beginning. the first lie was when he said the whole reason i got into this thing was because of those white supremacist with the torches. he started the campaign on a lie and he continued it. and he hasn't given it up. then he has the gall to give this christmas message and say we have to look at each other as friends and neighbors and not enemies when he is still playing that enemy game, still doing it with donald trump and the whole maga movement. b3 joey, he is running away from his legacy, the media, he ditched atypical end typical end-of-the-year press conference, not talking to the american people and now going to hide out for a while in st. croix. >> joey: if i were him, i wouldn't come back until february. we are not going to impeach you at this point. would have to make kamala president and they don't like her anymore, either. politics, there is always someone or something to blame, so you start questioning his legacy, it wasn't that he had a bad debate performance, it

wasn't his message or ideas or legacy, he had a cold, that is not his fault. the afghanistan withdrawal, he didn't order the generals against their own advice to take everyone out of afghanistan the way he did. that was trump's fault for an agreement he made with the taliban two years before, a year before. he didn't kill the economy's resurgence with regulation and inflation. that was covid's fault. covid is this convenient thing that is the problem and sometimes isn't. that's what politicians do. the problem is he has had an exceptionally and acutely bad result from so many of his policies that i don't think he gets to do the disappear and come back in a few years and everybody likes him again part of it. he is older than most president leaving office so he doesn't have as one of a runway. the other thing is these things are going to stick with us for a while. i know president trump is going to come in and help. i think when president trump came in at 2016, we were being

held back by obama's policies. now we are broken. it's a different job and is going to take longer to fix. >> katie: so dr. saphier, joe biden is trying to go out with all of these pardons, saying this is part of his legacy, but when it comes to the election, people saying we want him to go, basically the democratic party not allowing him to run for a second term, kicking him off the campaign trail, and then electing trump in a landslide, both electorally and in the popular vote, democrats also are not thrilled that he is still in office and are happy to see him leaving town. >> dr. saphier: i think it is equal. democrats, republicans, and everyone in between our kind of happy to see the biden administration leave the white house. it was said perfectly in "the wall street journal." it wasn't necessarily condemning a single man, it was an indictment of the entire democratic party, the coconspirators that have been the mainstream media. president biden said one of the things he wants to do was regain our leadership on the world stage. but i think the biggest question

that was highlighted in "the wall street journal" that we have been talking about foryy for the people who did cover up a cognitive decline and lack of function of biden, whether it is kamala harris the vp, kjp the press secretary, is someone responsible? kevin o'connor, white house doctor. >> katie: and as we know, a lot of those decisions that were made, the policy positions had pretty negative impact on people's lives, whether it was covid or other issues. so jessica, biden's disapproval rating grew to 66% just this month. it's getting worse as we inch toward president trump taking office on january 20th, so what does biden's legacy really look like as he leaves, and to joey's point, can he may become back in a couple of years and have

people look more fondly upon his presidency? >> jessica: i think that definitely happens. that happens with every president. that happened with president trump. the american people in 2020 said they didn't want trump again and then two years later once the campaigning started again they look more favorably upon the trump economy and ended up reelecting him for another term, so yes, i think there will be more fondness about the biden years after that, and i think that president biden needs a better answer to "do you have any regrets," and everything it is cute to say that every thing was perfect or you haven't been reflecting upon it. we all reflect upon decisions we have made in our lives and events that we wish had gone better, and that is to the umpteenth degree if you are the leader of the free world. but i think there is another side to the story right now, and president biden thinks people don't want me around in washington right now, i'm entitled to a vacation, and he certainly is, but just in the past few weeks, we have seen his 235th judge confirmed, so now he has surpassed president trump's

record in terms of that. 3% gdp growth, pretty hot. the stock market is so hot, soon-to-be president trump ground 2 wants to take credit for it. holiday sales up 3.8%. there are indicators of a very strong and healthy economy, and of a lot of success for president biden. and i think that in a couple of years, once he is out of the spotlight from all of this and people have not forgotten necessarily that kamala harris lost but have moved on from a lot of the material that was in "the wall street journal" piece, which was certainly explosive, that they will look differently upon him. >> katie: but joey, don't you make the argument the holiday spending is up and the economy is doing well because trump won? >> jessica: you didn't get magic money because he won. >> katie: people are feeling like they are safe now. they have someone coming into give them more opportunity. >> joey: so jimmy carter had to do a lot of work post-presidency to get in anyone's good graces. no one looks back on the carter years and says man, he did a decent job.

on top of that, you are right, the president is still doing presidential things. he just make sure that a bunch of murderers and rapists will outlive him. president from st. croix or whatever, just keep it up. peter it is true. >> jessica: some people don't believe in the death penalty. >> joey: jurors of their peers did. >> jessica: he believes in it for people who are terrorists and committed mass murder -- but that has been -- he has had that since the beginning. he said there will be a federal moratorium on capital punishment except for people who fall into those two categories. you can disagree with the principle of it but he didn't hallucinate and make it up. >> katie: he did do it and there are plenty of family speaking out but he will be leaving office in 25 days and trump will be in and he has been talking about greenland and the panama canal, and even canada, so president-elect trump is vowing to expand america's

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♪ ♪ >> joey: welcome back. president-elect trump is making a list and he's checking it twice. he's finding out which country is naughty or nice for america's interests. any christmas day message, he says, quote, merry christmas to all, including the wonderful soldiers of china who are lovingly but illegally operating the panama canal. of course, panama denies that. regardless, trump has been laser focused on getting back the key waterway the united states built before jimmy carter gave it

away. watch. >> we are being ripped off at the panama canal like we are being ripped off everywhere e else. a secure -- he just said take it back. that's a good idea. the fees being charged by panama are ridiculous. highly unfair. especially knowing the extraordinary generosity that has been bestowed to panama, i say very foolishly, by the united states. this complete rip-off of our country will immediately stop. it's going to stop. >> joey: he asked, and he wasn't done yet. trump was also trolling governor justin trudeau of canada come offering our neighbors to the north a 60% tax cut if they agree to join the u.s. and become the 51st state. he's even earned urging hockey legend wayne gretzky to run for "governor of canada" and unseat justin trudeau. in a wrap up his art of the deal holiday message, the president-elect made a sales pitch to the people of

greenland, which need the u.s. for national security purposes, and who want to be -- want the u.s. to be there, and he says we will. doc, i will go to you first on this, in all seriousness, we use the word "trolling," that's probably what he is doing, but it is also a president who says things and then kind of does them, so when he talks about canada, i don't know that he wants them to become the 51st state but this is on the heels of the trade arguments, looks like a conservative may unseat justin trudeau. is displaying maybe chess not checkers? >> dr. saphier: well, you know, after this week, canada, greenland, panama, oh, my! a lot happening this week. i know people get worked up when he speaks like this, kind of reminds me sometimes during covid, let me press pause and try to explain what he is saying. so i had to do some of that myself, why is he saying these things about greenland and canada? i don't know, so i looked into it. i understand why he is actually

talking about these so i'm going to share what i have learned. when you think about canada, in 2023, 85% of our land border encounters with people on the terrorist watch list came from our northern border, from canada. it is the longest land border in the entire world, so president trump has essentially been saying over and over again that they have a very loose border up there and because of that we are seeing crime in the united states and in fact up until recently canada did it require a visa to enter the country, so it was even being promoted on social media for illegal immigrants down in mexico or wherever to go to canada, gain access, they didn't need a visa, then come down to the united states, hence why we continue to see the biggest problems that we have in the united states, canada. okay, greenland. i have to assume it has something to do with russia and gaining control over the arctic circle, and also a big international security. okay, i can see what he is saying there. and then panama. that one is a little bit easy. 2017 panama decided to cut

diplomatic ties with taiwan, showing their allegiance to china. china uses panama canal second just to the united states, so this is all where we stand on the international stage, and trump has vowed to make us strong again, and i see all of this, and maybe it is a little bit of rhetoric and trolling on social media, but i think he is doing -- biden said he wanted to be a leader on international stage, but trump is actually trained to do it and he hasn't even president yet. >> joey: katie, we talked this morning in "fox & friends," that is a pretty strategic push toward an area -- russia is hostile right now. greenland makes sense. i don't know that we can buy it, but what do you think? >> katie: russia and china are working together in the arctic, trying to pursue resources there. china calls itself a near arctic country, which is baloney, they are not an arctic trunk country but try to weasel their way into they can extort minerals and lad waterways that becomes available to them, so that is a greenland play, for sure.

the other thing about the panama canal come everyone saying it is crazy trump would want to retake the panama canal, we actually have a treaty with panama. a neutrality treaty about the canal, when we handed over management in the '90s to the panamanian government, and it says that the united states reserves the military right to go back in and take control of the canal if they don't uphold the neutrality clause the way people can use it, making sure the fees, trump has talked about, that people are being charged too much, and you look at the way china is operating in the canal as part of their belt and road initiative all over the world, they are owners of ports and companies that are building in the canal, and they are not just using it to make sure that their goods are shipped through, of course chinese for spying and other espionage, so these are national security plays an end trump fashion, they are pretty funny when you listen to what he

says. >> joey: the panama canal, where in the redneck riviera, only ever knew about panama city, that does feel like a foreign country sometimes and a place where a lot of things are traffic through, but katie makes a good point. she talks about this treaty and the technicality. that is not trump's forte or how he communicates. when he brings stuff up like this and doesn't add that incoming have to believe it is influencing his commentary. >> tom: it is show business. the trump-splaining, people go to policy but it is show business. you have to send out your head shots. you have to go for things that are impossible. i would try to get, in movies, i would go to the "for broadway. are they going to cast little tom shillue on broadway? i remember going to a casting director come i wanted to get cast in "batman forever," can i get a role in "batman forever" come are you getting the? ended up calling me and they gave me a job as jim carrey's

body double -- >> i didn't know that. >> tom: i zipped up the joker suit. too skinny for the joker suit, but i got in the trailer. greenland, canada, the panama canal, he is pitching, this is what you do. you pitch. that is your hollywood pitch. and then maybe you get to be the body double but you get something out of the deal. >> joey: jessica, how disgusted were you when you read that -- [laughter] and you saw that president trump was wishing a merry christmas to those chinese soldiers that are very much probably not christian. that is so uninclusive -- >> jessica: not christian and also not they are, it was a double whammy. i appreciate it. feels just like home.

no, i was more interested in page 2 which got to the radical left lunatics, where i am much more at home and all of this. i would like to believe, and i do want to complement everyone at the table, as i do whenever jim, has a hearing and jesse ant he is actually trying to say versus what is happening. you guys do a much better job of explaining what's going on than the president-elect, who is just try to get a netflix deal come i guess, right? >> katie: he's trying to get greenland. >> jessica: there was a liberal troll who was about to become the most powerful person in the entire world again, i doubt that you would be so jovial about it. and it's the holidays and we should all laugh and have a lot of fun, but the point is that you can't take him that seriously, and i don't know if that is the best recipe for commander in chief. now the transition team declined to clarify if these statements were genuine or not, so i imagine that he hasn't updated them, texted them, to the front of mar-a-lago wherever they are

sitting to say no, i'm serious about panama, not so serious about greenland, i'll get back to you. there is a way to push sovereign nations to get more of what you want, which is what happened with nato, right, where he said i don't really care if you want to be in the picture with me, i'm going to be in the corner and you pay 2%, and he got that from a lot of countries. looking at the reactions from the panamanian government, from the dean's, it doesn't seem like they are interested in playing ball with him right now. now it is early, he's not even president again, but the republicans who have to go on tv and defend this, and not you guys who can translate it come i'm talking about congressman's izinke, serious fellow, interior secretary, you know, master negotiator or whatever, these are things they don't necessarily want to talk about, they have to liberals they want to bring to the

people, donald trump ran as a noninterventionist, if this goes through, -- >> katie: for manifest destiny, greenland, panama, maybe canada? >> jessica: the southern border is not as big of a problem, it is the northern border that is a problem, but no, i'm not. >> joey: is going to fix the other border. >> jessica: is already fixed, we got the cheap auction items. i just don't think it helps anyone to insult justin trudeau to this level. >> katie: he flew right down there and had a meeting. >> jessica: he also wants to win his reelection. there are a lot of people we deeply care about to our north. we get a ton from them. our construction industry would complete the fall apart if we had the 25% tariffs and closing the border with canada and it's just not a serious -- >> joey: i don't know, the danes are sneaky and they tried to sell us on this offshore wind

that is ridiculous. >> jessica: now the danes are sneaky. >> joey: i'm glad he is pushing back. well, after getting a free ride, california criminals are shocked to learn, you won't believe this, crime doesn't pay. watch this. >> that's a felony? [bleep] laws. stealing is a felony. and this is orange county [bleep]. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ >> dr. saphier: california crooks are learning the hard way crime doesn't pay. back in november voters in the golden state past the tough on crime proposition 36 which reclassified shoplifting is a felony and well it looks like

nobody told the criminals. police in california releasing this video of three suspected shoplifters in a town near los angeles who were shocked to find out about the new crackdown after they got busted come of course. >> that's a felony? [bleep] new laws. stealing is a felony. and this is orange county [bleep]. >> dr. saphier: well, unfortunately prop 36 is too little, too late for some open businesses hit hard by crying. the owner of the popular in-n-out burger restaurant is speaking about the wave of violence that forced her to change locations. >> violence, fights, you name i. there was actually gunshots went through the store, there is the stabbing, there is a lot for the safety of our associates. we just felt like this is not okay. you know? [laughs]

so. the amount of time it would take for the police to get there, too, was alarming. >> dr. saphier: you know, tom, sticking with oakland for a second, they lost the in-n-out, the denny's that had been there for 55 years which some people said was a staple of the town, also lost nfl, mlb, and nhl, all in the last five years. you know, one in 30 oakland residents have had a car stolen last year or in "the san francisco chronicle." what is happening in oakland? >> tom: what is happening with the in-n-out? you lose a in-n-out in oakland, put one in my neighborhood. we can't get in-n-out over here on the east coast no matter what, so i would like to see and in-n-out, put it up in yonkers come i think it would be great. we don't have to look that far back to see the example, new york city set with rudy giuliani and people, rudy giuliani, he transformed this city. we came on, when i first moved

to the city where was running around with my head shots, a dangerous city. people said it is unworkable, we can't get our subways back, can't have safe streets, got to go home with the sunsets in new york city. giuliani came in and they called him a nazi and a fascist and he had his police commissioner and they were putting him on the cover of magazines and everyone was protesting, oh, they are going to make this city unlivable and it is terrible and they brought crime down and then everybody in all of the neighborhoods, the high tone neighborhoods, the tough neighborhoods, they all said this works, you can control a city, and they made fun of the squeegee thing. you are going to arrest squeegee men? your broken windows theory? well, it all worked because when you commit to it and enforce crime, then you have a livable city and people are going to have to start learning that again, can we get new york back the way it was? can we get someone like giuliani? politically someone like new giuliani could not happen in new york today. >> i would love to not smell

pot -- >> tom: every town, usa. >> jessica: no, he wasn't. >> dr. saphier: this proposition 36 was passed overwhelming majority, gavin newsom didn't want it. do you think this speaks to any sort of the future of gavin newsom in california? because he seems out of touch with what californians are wanting right now. >> jessica: my understanding of why governor newsom didn't end up backing prop 36 as he had some proposals he had put through, put out himself, and there were a couple poison pills in prop 36 that he didn't want to sign up for around the prison system. now that -- he should've come out and explained that to the public that that was the reasoning for it. this was something that was overwhelmingly popular. my sister lives out in the los angeles area, has a lot of friends who are not political at all, and they knew everything about this race.

they knew about nathan hoffman, the new d.a. out there, who is a conservative democrat that ran on we cannot have someone like gascon in this role anymore and people need to be able need to live their lives and feel safe doing it and what the last couple of years have looked like for some people, especially people typically of memes means who weren't exposed to this level of crime has radicalized them, doesn't mean there waking up and saying i want to join the g.o.p., but they are looking for alternatives, and you are seeing the same thing out of oakland, why london breed lost her race to san francisco mayor for another term, and democrats are i think seizing this moment and understanding the implications of this. you saw it a little bit with the migrant crisis and people like tom suozzi, conservative democrat who ran again who was talking about what is going on with illegal immigration the same way as a lot of republicans were talking about it, and i

think you are going to have a lot of democrats that are taking this incredibly seriously, when you have the images of a woman lit on fire on a new york city subway car, you cannot afford to ignore it, as something that is seared, to use a literal term for this, in people's consciousness now of what can happen around major metros. >> dr. saphier: katie, why did it have to get to this point rather so much crime and they have to put forward the proposition and d.a.s being unseated. crime is rampant in california. >> katie: allowing criminals to run your streets and cities and run good businesses in providing jobs and an economic ecosystem, not just in-n-out where people eat but stores like walgreens or snorts trump closing in downtown san francisco, that takes away an entire generation of wealth and for a lot of people during the 2020 riots, their entire neighborhoods were destroyed and they had nowhere to go and they still don't as a

result of the last of lack of investment in these places where crime is still going and running rampant because of these policies. the left built this after the defund the police movement, this is a direct result, all of this horrific crime, it's a result of punishing people like daniel penny for stepping in hand trying to help people when they are being attacked by violent people, whether it is in the subway around the streets, and the government in places like new york city and california makes it a point to make sure that you can't really defend yourself either with a firearm or anything else, so they have an extra responsibility to make sure they have policies that put criminals behind bars and keep them off the streets. when there is deterrence and consequences for bad behavior, the crimes go down and also when it comes to the federal government and with the trump administration can do in the first term, they can partner with the federal government and the department of justice and institute harsher penalties from a level where they think twice, talked to attorney general

bill barr during operation legend, as soon as they find out there is a federal crime they have broken, they get really nervous because they know they are now going to have to serve federal crime, not just some local d.a. jail if they do it at all. this is a choice built by the left, a horrible experience -- experiment that cost people their lives and destroyed entire communities, and it does, when you swing the pendulum so far away from law and order, you have to swing it pretty far back to get to normal so people cannot only just feel safe, they can be safe in the cities that are supposed to be the best in the world. >> dr. saphier: joey, what is your take? a beginning of a tough on crime stance in california? >> joey: in the words of my daddy, there ain't nothing worse than a damn thief. the founding principle of the social contract, some sort of security in a society, i have worked hard to collect this. these are my resources. and i have some sort of assurance that my neighbor can't take it from me.

stealing is the first, the most fundamental breakdown of that faith and trust we have as a society. consequences for stealing, not to mention, a form of theft, consequences for stealing should be severe to the point that it deters anyone else from doing it. this came from an argument that just simply throwing people in jail isn't right, and there should be more there. i don't fully disagree with that. but the full removal of consequences because we can't agree on what they should be, that is when you get people to think i can steal, no repercussions, california, i went to school at georgetown, a little community on the hill in gc, super liberal love to tell you how you should run your lift the metro come there because the riffraff can stay out of georgetown. and at least their hypocrisy has some reasoning in it. when you are true believers like those in california's have become because i guess they're so insulated, i don't know, you

start paying the price. i can't just sit here and pontificate, there is actually repercussions. i have been to some of these communities in california that are very high end, the gucci store down the road there, overran with these flash mobs of thievery, and now they are upset because they can't go by their high and stuff. >> dr. saphier: didn't support the proposition because he is more concerned about the treatment for people committing these crimes, alluding that all crime is a result of mental illness, which we know is not true, look at those young girls, they are learning the lesson, actions have consequences, and that is something we need to instill in this younger population. coming up, bill maher and jay leno are going nuclear on the left for cutting off family members who support president trump. ♪ ♪ awkward question... is there going to be anything left... —left over? —yeah. oh, absolutely. (inner monologue) my kids don't know what they want. you know who knows what she wants? me! i want a massage, in amalfi, from someone named giancarlo.

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>> jessica: 'tis the season for holding a grudge. bill maher and jay leno are tearing into liberals who refused to celebrate the holiday with trump supporting relatives. >> oh, worst thing you could ever do, be friends with a republican. and one. this is what i [bleep] hate about the left. just the idea that, you know, cut your family offer thanksgiving if they voted for the wrong guy. [bleep]. >> jessica: tom, i have such affection for "club random," sitting around stoned out of their minds -- >> tom: are they all stone? >> jessica: most. >> tom: it kind of a contact high on the show. >> jessica: i think if you walk into his cave and you are high. >> tom: coming our way. not as if i'm going to join the republicans -- she's going to. >> jessica: if you believe in climate change you can maybe get him. >> tom: he and jay leno, they make great points, but this is

what they asked for. it was that old toyota, you ask for it, you got it. they wanted war, permanent, all-time more. joe biden was for it, democrats were for it, that was how they were going to win was demonize the other side and bill maher was part of it, demonized trump during his hole first term and now he is surprised all the people who watch his show -- i mean, unless they brainwashed, but, you know, it does wash over them, this attitude, so they told people and they did this on "view," whether they said explicitly have to kick people out of your thanksgiving they set up a permanent war, so of course people are going to take the hint and act that way. >> jessica: katie, i'm not too liberal or proud to admit that we do suffer from a lack of comedy sometimes over these issues. what do you think is different in the liberal ideology versus conservative ideology that makes it difficult to have joint

holidays and things like that? >> katie: i think that conservatives just or may be tolerated, despite what has been set about the left. they are open to enjoying each other's company regardless of what your politics are. i don't know. you know, these liberals don't want to come to christmas or thanksgiving or hanukkah, whatever, i think that probably the right-wingers in the family are grateful that they just did them a favor and they are not coming anyway because if you are that miserable, people don't want you around. have a friend whose mother was paying for their entire christmas vacation at a very nice location, and the sister doesn't think the way that they do in terms of trump, she is a liberal progressive, and she demanded they sign a contract in that if they broke the contract by bringing up politics that they would have to pay her money. i mean, it was absurd. get over it. cope, figure it out. how do these people go through life? i don't understand. >> tom: i just looked it up, thank you for the word. >> jessica: i wasn't going to mention it -- >> joey: great to say comedy. >> jessica: stick with me,

joey. we don't have much time so just say whatever you want to. >> joey: about the family thing at christmas, listen, i've said this before, i was at my family christmas party, which a lot of strangers were at because my uncle jeff, it's family and friends, he's always bringing in strays. we had it in this place and there is a store next door and he found some kids buying beer, come over and have christmas with us. i don't think he would mind, i know he wouldn't, my cousin is gay and his husband made some offhand comment while we were playing this saran wrap ball game about trump supporters and it was disparaging but it was funny, and he didn't think twice to say it and nobody reacted. that's what family is. it's not about politics. it's not about identity. it's about you love each other and you come together and you enjoy something, each other's company, it was funny, and i laughed and we had a great night. that's what this should be about. we are in this holiday season, take a little self-reflection and quit blocking your family on facebook if they say outrageous

things, laugh at them come and y them for the joy they bring in your life. >> dr. saphier: i think republicans also tend to be more appreciative of life and believe in the work hard, play hard mentality so when they get together for the holidays they just want to enjoy themselves. i think there is a doctor in training on msnbc or some other channel the last few weeks essentially said to people, you shouldn't be around your family if they voted for trump and a way to avoid emotional conflict but at the end of the day, that's what being human and having family and friends is all about and if you avoid people that social isolation, we are already in a loneliness epidemic. best the last thing that we need. you have to put on a helmet and just enjoy life. it's okay to disagree with people. you don't have to debate. you can have conversation. if you need to come ago for a walk, i don't know. >> jessica: all right. coming up, why the heck is elon musk dressed up as santa claus? ♪ ♪

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himself ozempic santa. look at him. he is lean and mean in his santa suit. dr. nicole, he is gaga about these g.o.p.es, always tweeting about them, going to be the solution to everything. what do you think? >> dr. saphier: he and the rest of the world, and god bless him come he can afford to take them, people who need them cannot afford, very expensive and the side effects and consequences that come with taking them are also even more expensive, so i think they are widely over utilized. i do think there is a place for them in the market, but maybe we should probably stop typing them up and making them seem as great as they are because i think give it five years and you are going to season pretty horrible consequences and a whole 'and other health care problem. >> tom: you mean i shouldn't have slung that little song at the beginning? >> dr. saphier: you did a beautiful job. >> tom: jessica, it is actually mounjaro he is taking, not ozempic, but he did ozempic santa because it is a fun year punch line. got to hand it to elon. >> jessica: don't take them

seriously. the entire administration. no come i think it is cute. i appreciate people being honest if they are using these drugs. people are acting, what are you talking about? you've seen me at soulcycle. excuse me. >> joey: you will not see me at soulcycle. [laughter] >> tom: are you similar? you see people who have lost a lot of weight, that's it, they are doing the ozempic? >> joey: no, i don't think about it. here's the thing. if i were a billionaire, i would be really good looking. i'm not saying everybody -- hair transplant. if i were a billionaire and i could afford to just disappear for a month, i'd probably have some stuff done. and also, you can afford the nutrition and the workouts, why do you need it? >> katie: i just given him credit for losing weight and keeping his shirt on to take the picture. >> tom: has he been taking his

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♪ ♪ >> time now for "one more thing." nicole; >> nicole: happy to 106 celebrating fireball. she longevity always have fun and keep moving. happy birthday. >> i will be on the ingraham angle tonight. please tune in for that. a special opportunity to return home for the holidays. sergeant came home from south korea. loved to see those stories. and we are out of time. so, happy holidays, merry christmas, that's it for us. have a great night. >> hey, katie, i love those stories, too. thank you.