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president-elect trump's border crackdown already taking shape even though he is still 23 days away if taking office. his tariff of threats have qanta scrambling and mexico preparing. all this as the biden administration's push to sell border wall materials is collapsing. trump's top border man, tom homan, is just moments away. welcome, everyone. i am david asman, and this is "fox news live." and we begin with matt finn who's in west palm beach, florida, on the response trump's border threats are prompting. matt. >> reporter: good morning. top canadian cabinet members met with the incoming president's administration and aides here in west palm beach yesterday to discuss all things from fentanyl trafficking to illegal immigration and drug flow here to the united states. president-elect trump, as you know, has been egging on canadian prime minister justin trudeau, saying perhaps canada should become our 51st state and trudeau should become the

governor. president trump-elect, has also been threatening sweeping tariffs against canada to the tune of 25, and trudeau has said those tariffs would crush the canadian economy. here in west palm, dominic leblanc and foreign minister melanie if joly were scheduled to hold talks with there trump, tom homan and was scheduled to be a part of those talks either in person or over the phone, and the canadian premier of alberta tells fox that canada wants to improve its partnership with the u.s. to be a stronger front against our adversaries. >> we've got this wonderful partnership that we've had since 193. there's always going to be trade tensions, but if we could work on that relationship and also work on some of the border issues, how many americans -- have the americans know we really do want to be a partner in addressing not only our cross-border issues, but also the threat of china, of russia,

being able to help our allies. >> reporter: so you hear that right there, that canadian premier, who says that canada wants to be a better partner with the united states. we also have these ongoing talks, so it seems there is momentum with our northern neighbor. and also we've been reporting on the biden administration which has been selling off parts of the trump border wall. yesterday the biden administration said it would halt the selling of those materials. back to you, david. david: all right, matt, thank you very much. to to a key player in all of this, incoming border czar tom homan joins me now. tom, great to see you again. appreciate you coming on. let's talk about the border wall, first of all. we'll get to the, our foreign neighbors in a moment. but the idea that the biden administration was selling off for pennies on the dollar border wall parts that we, the taxpayers, already paid for and then presumably be sold back to the trump administration later

on, in other words, taxpayers are paying more than double for this, it's infuriating people. have we at least stopped that process? if. >> yes, we have. the courts have ordered them to stop. you know, it's disgusting that they're going to take that border wall, which you just said we paid top dollar for and selling it for pennies on the dollar. now we've got to rebuy it? it's ridiculous. however, a little bit of good news. one of the companies reached out to me willing to give us that border wall products back at what they paid for it, the pennies on the dollar, giving it back for the same price. i think ken ken paxton, the a.g. in texas, took immediate action, so right now i think we've got them stopped. but it's insulting, they wait four years just before we take control to sell a main piece -- david: nasty piece of work. i'm glad it's the stopped. let's talk about what's happening with our neighbors was donald trump certainly got the attention of both our northern and southern neighbors. both of whom have now been

talking, reacting to what trump's been saying. how's that working out? in particular with regard to the old remain in mexico policy that trump used very effectively in his first term to stop, the close the border. >> look, the mexican government's already taken some action to sop some of the caravans coming up. i think it's, i think it's very promising, the discussions with canada and mexico. they've already taken steps, and like canada, i mean, within two days of the trudeau meeting, the foreign minister got ahold of me talking about what they can do to make the northern border more secure. i think frump's actions are doing -- president trump's actions are bringing our neighbors to the table to talk about securing our border and saving lives both on their border and our border. so i think president trump is a genius for reaching out to these countries even before he takes office to address border security. david: yeah. well, that's the point, i have never seen -- you've got a lot of experience in the federal

government. i've never seen a case where foreign policy has been arranged before a person has actually been inaugurated as president. have you? >> look, we're not waiting. i've already been to the border several times, met with governor abbott, i met with the national sheriffs' association, what they can do for us. i've talked to the foreign minister of canada, and i've been out to arizona talking to the of sheriffs out there. so we're not waiting for january 20th. we're going to try to secure the border as quick as we can, and we've already started working on those plans. david: now, you may have gotten the attention of our neighbors north and south, but you still haven't gotten the full attention of a lot of the sanctuary cities and states in the united states. we just had a recent example of it with the bronx -- excuse me, the brooklyn d.a. not dealing with the detaining order from i.c.e. for this horrific crime that took place last sunday where a woman was burnt to to death by, allegedly by an

illegal alien who's now the suspect in the case. i.c.e. put a detain ther on him, and it wasn't accepted by the brooklyn d.a. what's going on with that? >> i had a meeting with mayor adams a few weeks ago. he said he wants to work with us on public safety threats. he's committed to doing that, he's also willing to help us find over 300,000 missing children that many are in new york city. but you know, he was very honest when he was saying he's got a city council he needs to deal with, and and he's going to do what he can through executive order. but i'm hoping he's a man of his word and he's going to push for the actions that we discussed that day. any elected official, even a district attorney, anybody in that city, you should want to remove public safety threats from if your communities. david: of course. >> that's your number one responsibility to to protect your community. we want the ten you -- help you do that. we're going to do it. we're going to run this operation in if every city across the country. we're coming. david: well, we've seen the worst of the worst. i mean, people who are accused

of child rape up in boston because that's a song a -- sanctuary city. the cops there couldn't cooperate with you. i.c.e. had to go in and do it on their own. thank god they got a couple of them, but who knows how many are still roaming around. finally, i just want to deal with this question of unaccompanied children, over 300,000 who just disappeared from hhs' rolls of unaccompanied children. where they are, we don't know. we do know that there are these smug being rings that essentially put them into slave labor, horrific slave labor in the case of some sexual uses for these children. i mean, is there any way, is that one of your top priorities? and how do you find out where these kids have gone? >> absolutely. president trump has three priorities. one, secure the border. second, run this deportation operation. and the same day, day one, start looking for over 300,000 missing children. in my three and a half decades

doing this job, i'm telling you, some of them are in sex trafficking, some in forced labor. we've got to save these children. it's going to be a hard task because you and i have a foot print, right? we have a digital footprint. we own homes, we own cars, we pay bills. children don't. we've got to rely on the digital footprint of unvetted sponsors that weren't verified that the identification they were using was accurate. it's going to be a tough haul, but we're going to ask the american people to step up and help us. parents across this country, they have an innate if ability to recognize when something's not right with a child. so we're going to send the message out to the american people to help us find these children whether it's in the workplace, if something just ain't right when you see a child with an adult, let us know. if one phone call out of a thousand saves a child, it's worth it. it's a major priority of the trump administration, to save these children. david: it should be a priority of every american. again, if you see something

that's suspicious, you've got to let people know. this is god's work, protecting our kids, protecting other people's kids as well. they're all really our children. they're here. we may not like the way they came in, but we've got to protect them from the slavery that they've been subjected to. really good stuff, tom. thank you so much for joining us, appreciate it. have a wonderful weekend. >> thanks for having me. that. david: all right. well, president-elect donald trump preparing to go all in on his agenda on day one, but could a speaker showdown slow him down? texas republican congressman dan crenshaw's here. and severe weather threatening to wreak havoc on travelers on roads and airports for folks trying to get back home. we're going to show you the trouble spots straight ahead. with every purchase, all members earn point toward mylowes's money. get free gifts to bring home, member deals to get more projects done and free standard shipping. start earning for free with mylowe's rewards today. no more gross cough syrup.

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david: to capitol hill now where speaker mike johnson could be less than a week away from if a fierce if battle for the gavel, and the trump team is watching it very closely. madeleine rivera is in d.c. with the latest. >> reporter: good morning, david. republicans in congress say they will work quickly to implement president trump's agenda, but the first order of business when congress convenes screen -- convenes january 3rd is electing a speaker. house speakerrer mike johnson looks like he's going to have a tough fight trying to keep the

gavel. he needs the backing of 218 members. congress will begin with 219 house republicans and 215 house democrats. that means jobson can only afford one republican defection. one republican, congressman thomas massie, has already said he won't be supporting johnson. several other gop members are also keeping their options open including andy harris, scott perry and tim burchett. >> we're working with the speaker's office to, you know, change the way things are done to make sure we can advance president trump's agenda for the american people, and we'll see if those commitments can be made. if they can't, then next friday could be a long day. >> reporter: johnson drew the ire of the right flank of the house republican conference after last week's funding fight. he relied on democrats to get the final bill across the finish line. some republicans say johnson is doing the best he can with a narrow majority. >> we're not sheep, we don't just to do as the leader says. we're all -- it's like herding

cats, but not little house cats, like big lions on the serengeti. we all have our say. but mike's done a great job over the last 15 months considering the situation. >> reporter: president-elect trump is said to be upset with johnson. david. david: that would be a problem. madeleine, thank you very much. so is my next guest worried about a potential speaker battle? texas republican congressman dan crenshaw with me now. you never strike me to be that worried with about anything, dan. you think you can get right through it, and maybe you can. but what happens if there is another speaker battle that could possibly if delay the certification of president trump's victory? >> you know, look, i'd say a few things about the speaker situation. every speaker walks into the same office, carpet color's the same, the furniture's the same

because all the political dynamics are the same. everything's the same. the speaker can only do what the speaker can do. you might have different skill sets, different connections, but the job is difficult because the political reality they live in no matter who is the speaker is the same political reality. that changes in january, but you still don't have 60 votes in the senate, so you still have the make deals with democrats on spending bills and really any agenda except for reconciliation bills. that's the first thing people need to understand when they want to kick out car think or criticize -- mccarthy or criticize johnson. there's no alternative. am i worried about a speaker's battle? [laughter] look, the world will keep turning and eventually we will have a speaker. i do think trump will have quite the say, and his opinion will matter quite a bit. david: absolutely. >> it would benefit trump a lot, honestly, if he would just back johnson right now and just be done with it.

david: well, what is clear, dan, is that the president-elect has enormous power right now. he has -- the gallup poll shows that he's in a much better position right now in terms of public opinion than he was in january 2017 when he first took over. he's got over 51 1% approval right now -- 51% approval, since the election. so his finger on the scale will make all the difference, won't it? >> yeah, i think so. look, if he says don't vote for johnson, i think it's going to be a very tough speaker race for johnson. david: right. >> again, it's really not clear who else would be in the waiting there. remember, we went through this -- david: yeah, i know, i remember. >> all the major players basically had their heads chopped off. so it's not obvious to me that johnson's done a bad job. it's obvious to me that he's done the best job he can given the circumstances, and he keeps

a level head. david: okay. >> i think he doesn't lose his cool the way i would given what people say about him and what people, what lies people tell and the games that people play. a lot of this is gamesmanship. people want to hold their vote because they want something, some kind of personal concession from the if speaker. i think it's pretty gross to do that, but this is, this is what they do. and it's, unfortunately, you have the understand too, it's very popular in the conservative world to not just go against democrats, but mostly to go against your own people. that's the more popular sound bite with, unfortunately. that's a cultural problem that we have. david: again, donald trump is going to change everything. i just want to move on, if i can, the what happens once things get cooking inside the beltway once the president is inaugust a rated, what the first agenda will be. there's a lot of discussion whether it should be the border, whether it should be extending the tax cuts. you have a lot of people weighing in including labor, former labor secretary robert

reich who said in an x post trump's first round of tabs cuts for the rich added $2 trillion to the debt. extending them would at another -- add another $5 trillion. in fact, trump's tax cuts many 2017 lowered taxes for 65% of taxpayers, and more importantly, it didn't cost $2 trillion. it gained 48% in tax revenue. that's how much more we have now than we did in 2017. it didn't cost $2 trillion, it actually gained $1.5 trillion. ing is anybody making that point right now among the republicans in congress? >> we will. that's a point i always make. look, tax cuts don't cost us anything because we're not spending anything. we're letting you keep more money. and it is true, the year after the tax cuts passed we still had record revenues. now, would you have had more revenues? potentially. but it still doesn't count as a cost. that's a matter of philosophy,

that's a matter of how you view tax cuts -- david: well, it's a matter of history, not just philosophy. it happened in the 1920s, it happened with ronald reagan, it happened in the first trump term. it could happen again, no? >> right. and it's the right argument to make right back at hem. -- at them. letting people keep more of their money is not a cost to the government. david: right. >> we're going to have to to look at programs. 70% of our spending is in medicare, medicaid, social security. these are touchy subjects for people. but we have -- but they're going to go broke and be destroyed if we don't actually save them. and actually make some reforms. and these are some of the things we're going to have to do in reconciliation. you can pick apart some of the spending on your annual appropriations bills, but it's not going to get you the savings that you need, it just isn't. there's not enough money there. we act like there is, but there isn't. there's two appropriations bills today to do next year because of

the way we dead this -- did. this maybe one reconciliation bill, maybe two. david: it's going to be tough, but it's going to make things very interesting to watch from my perspective. dan crenshaw, congressman from texas, wonderful to see you, sir. appreciate it. so what will the impact be for the markets and my if a speaker showdown slows trump's plans down? let's ask former trump campaign economic adviser steve moore. steve, great to see you. thanks for being here. i don't know. i think donald trump can change the whole configuration of things. as difficult as it looks right now and as difficult as it's been for republicans in the house for the past two two years, when donald trump or is president, he's going to make a lot of these decisions, right? if? >> that's right. and, by the way, just apropos of your conversation with the congressman, we've started a movement called conservatives for johnson. we think he's been an outstanding speaker under incredibly tough situation with a very razor thin majority.

i think he has been superb, actually, and this idea of trying to get rid of him, i think, would cause chaos. as you said, just at a time when we've got a full plate agenda we've got to get running with. so we will see. but, you know, the tax cut is obviously on the economic front is top priority -- david: absolutely. >> -- use reconciliation to do it, but this can be done. it'll be a powerful stimulant to the economy. david: by the way, if it's delayed as a number of republicans want it to be delayed and if that delay leads into the end of 2025, tax cuts are going to to go up for 65% of americans at least. i mean, what else could happen if these tax cuts expire? >> well, it's a good point. i want the make sure, i want to reiterate what you just said because i think at lot of americans don't follow this all that closely. if the congress does not act, then taxes as you just said will

automatically go up at the end of 2025 and into 2026. so i think the republicans are playing a dangerous game in delaying the tax cut. and, by the way, we need an economic stimulus right now. this is -- biden is not handing off a strong the economy to trump. he's not. that's the liberal narrative. actually, there are a lot of problems with the economy. the debt, the deficits, the fact that consumers are so pinched right now because of the high inflation. and so republicans should, i'd like to see this done, mr. president, get this done in the first 100 days, for goodness sakes, and then the economy will be, you know -- david: yeah. well, spending outrages continue, by the way. biden administration is spending a lot of money on the way out. we see there inflation is continuing to go up and, of course, a lot of that is becausf that is because of the spending that's going on inside the beltway. biden's irs chief just announced this week he's sending out $2.4 billion in covid relief funds.

i thought covid was over, steve. [laughter] >> i mean, i shouldn't laugh. i don't know if we should be laughing or crying about this. biden has, what, three weeks left or something as president, and since the election it's just been an avalanche of new spending. it's literally, david, they're spending every single penny, even quarters in the sofa cushions they're trying to spend, leaving trump in a bigger hole. somebody should tell biden just stop spending. we don't need hundreds of billions more -- david: steve, we've just got 20 seconds, but the question of what the doge brothers are going to be doing, vivek ramaswamy and elon musk, vivek wrote this week, he said if you can't reform ab agency or even a department, there's only one answer left, period. and, of course, the answer is get rid of it. will they be recommending actually getting rid of entire departments like, say, the department of education where the more we spend, the further down a lot of the test scores continue to go? so is that a department that

they're going to recommend we get rid of? >> yeah. and i'll just add one quick thing because i know we're coming the an end. this is where the american people have to, you know, put their influence on this. they're going to come up with great proposals in terms of saving money. congress doesn't want to do it. neither the republicans nor -- the people have to put the pressure on congress to implement these reforms and save our country. david: all right. it's people power, that's what it's called. steve, good to see you. thank you very much. have a great new year. well, to ukraine now where president biden is rushing more money in before trump heads in. where is the war heading? and did russia just a take down a passenger jet? if the very latest on this investigation. plus, what is next for the guatemalan migrant charged with lighting a woman on fire and killing her on a new york city sub in he has just been indicted, but is new york city mayor eric adams saying, enough?

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david: russian president putin apologizing to the azerbaijani leader for that attention jet that crashed in kazahkstan but stopping short of taking respondent for it. stephanie bennet has the latest on this. >> reporter: we're hearing more from president putin who has called it a tragic incident but avoided saying russia was responsible in the first place. we're also hearing from ukrainian president zelenskyy who sent his condolences to the victims of this deadly crash. now, survivors from the azerbaijan plane that crashed in kazahkstan on christmas day say they heard bangs as the aircraft approached its original destination in southern russia. >> translator: 20 the or 30 minutes after takeoff, we felt with two explosions. the plane was supposed to land, but it didn't. something exploded inside twice.

a man's hand was injured. we panicked. >> reporter: the aircraft took off and was due to fly to grozny, but it was diverted across the caspian sea to kazahkstan where the plane hurtled toward the ground and burst into flame flames. of the 67 onboard, 38 were killed. a flight attendant injured his arm and tried to control the situation and keep everybody calm after the plane crashed. [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: there were people who panickedded, and we tried to calm them down telling them not to panic. >> reporter: now, the azerbaijan transport minister said the plane was subjected to external interference and was damaged from the inside and out. u.s. military sources say russian air defenses may have mistakenly struck the plane as it tried to land while trying to fend off possible ukrainian drone attacks in the region, and the plane's communications were

also paralyzed. white house national security spokesperson john kirby told reporters that the u.s. has ready -- early indications that russia was responsible but declined to comment further. for now, david, nato is launching a full investigation to get to the bottom of this. back to you. david: it's amazing that anybody survived that crash. horrific. stephanie, thank you very much. meanwhile, president joe biden is going to be rushing another billion plus dollars in weapons to ukraine after russia unleashed a large scale christmas day attack on ukraine's power grid. fox's lucas tomlinson is live in st. croix where biden is vacationing and, of course, lucas is not. he's working for us. what's the latest, lucas? >> reporter: well, david, that russian ballistic missile strike on kyiv on christmas day took place on the same day that azerbaijani airliner was blasted out of the sky. as you mentioned, the biden administration is set to announce another billion dollars in arms shipment to ukraine,

that's about a quarter of the stockpiled weapons that remain in the pentagon that it's willing to depart with. as russia's war in ukraine nears if 3-year mark, they launched that ballistic missile strike in ukraine's capital on christmas day, another arms shipment to be announced early next week. many officials call the war a stalemate right now with the front lines not changing significantly over the past two years, david. over 50,000 ukrainian soldiers have been killed since the beginning of the war, roughly the same number the u.s. military lost in vietnam. the white house wants ukraine to lower the draft age to 18, and now north korea sent thousands of soldiers to help russia retake the kursk region after ukrainian forces launched that daring invasion of the russian territory back in august. white house spokesman john kirby talked about the high casualties the north koreans are suffering. >> we assess that they've resulted in heavy casualties for these north korean forces.

our estimate is that, to date, they have suffered more than 1,000 killed or wounded in this particular fighting in just the past week of them fighting on the front lines. >> reporter: now, kirby also said that many of those north korean soldiers were refusing to be taken prisoner and many were committing suicide. a russian-controlled tanker suspected of cutting that undersea cable near finland has advanced high-powered spy equipment as well. it's been seized by finnish authorities, and the ukrainians are also saying, david, that a recent himars strike killed three russian officers. david? david: lucas, thank you very much. retired air force lieutenant general david deptula. if i've ever seen a war of attrition, this is one. for all of the billions and billions we've spent let alone the rest of europe -- of course,

we've spent the majority of us -- it looks like a stalemate. it is a war of attrition on both sides. isn't it time to just have some kind of a peace deal here? >> well, david, first, i'd like the remind your audience that if there was ever an example of a country fighting against all odds for the freedoms that americans hold as inalienable, it's the people of ukraine. so we should continue to support them to the greatest degree possible regardless of who's president. furthermore, continued support to ukraine is absolutely vital to securing any kind of ceasefire. now, i think relative to your statement, everyone wants to see this war stopped except putin. yet he's the one person who can stop it immediately by withdrawing his occupying forces, and if that's the challenge. putin sees more benefit to

himself by continuing than by stopping. and what president trump will have to do is incentivize putin to stop while at the same time upholding ukraine's sovereign rights. david: all right. again, we have heard so many comments by generals, politicians over the years saying, oh, we can -- if we just send a little more money, we'll give ukraine the advantage in this fight, and we just -- i know there's going to be a new policy under donald trump. he clearly wants, thinks he can, he can strike some kind of deal between russia and ukraine. there's advantages for both sides to stop this thing. i do want to move on though to the middle east, because there are a lot of fires still burning there. the houthis, let's start with the houthis because they have significantly done damage to the entire international community trying to use the red sea as a point of commerce. 90% of that sea traffic on the red sea has been stopped as a

result of these terrorist attacks on boats. isn't it time to stop that? this is essentially a blockade against the world by i a small terrorist organization that's funded by iran. >> yeah. i fully subscribe to your feelings, and i think many people in the united states do except for president biden and his now-security council staff. they've been essentially fearing escalation, and and for that reason they've not put a stop to this which could be done particularly in the targeting. instead of being in a catcher's mitt mode of only shooting down missiles and drones that are launched against the ships, the united states should bring its full weight to bear to crush their critical centers of gravity which could be accomplished very, very easily, quite frankly, against a country

or a group of terrorists like we're facing there. david: well, marley since now -- particularly since now or after january 20 we will have a closer alignment, i think, between the military goals of israel and those of the united states because we know that trump is more aligned to the current administration in israel than the past. what about iran? because, again, iran is behind so much of the problems that we have there. is it time, do you think maybe in the next year, when there will be some attempt to take out their nuclear endeavors which could lead to the development of a nuclear bomb by iran? >> well, once again, just as you said, david, iran is behind the support that's going to the houthis, what had been going to hezbollah and hamas. and so iran does need to be dealt with. they're in the weakest position they've been in in part due to spectacular efforts on the part of the israeli military in their

strategy. and while i can't forecast what president trump might do, i'm certain that dealing with iran which is the fundamental heart of these issues and problems that we're facing in the middle east will be high on his agenda. a. david: i agree. general, wonderful to have you here. thank you for a very frank conversation. really appreciate it. >> thank you. david: storms hitting the nation's airports, but is severe weather getting in the way? and forget trimming government fat, doge leader elon musk trimming some of his own. [laughter] why his new weight loss message is going viral, but are doctors onboard? that's next. ber perks from the palm of your hand. with every purchase, all members earn point toward mylowes's money. get free gifts to bring home, member deals to get more projects done and free standard shipping. start earning for free with mylowe's rewards today. vision insurance doesn't do you any good

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♪ ♪ david: well, it used to be that americans couldn't get enough of those gas-guzzling suvs, but inflation may be changing some of that. fox business' max gorden is in thousand oaks, california, with more on this. max. >> reporter: hey, david. small cars are looking big in 2025, at least that's what the experts are telling us, and some manufacturers are looking to cash in. we're taking a look at some of the small car offerings on the lot. this right here is a honda civic, a pretty familiar car to a lot of folks. this was a pioneer in the compact car segment. this one going for about $27,000. and then over here we have sort

of a newer offering, relatively new on the market. this is the honda hrv. this one goes if for about $3,000 -- 31,000, and it is a subcompact if suv. sales soared in 2024. and compact if truck sales shot up by more than 30% in 2024 compared to a year ago. car experts say 2025 will likely be another hot year for small cars. cars are really expensive right now with the research price of a new car sitting at more than $47,000. still, edmunds says consumers shelled out slightly less in 2024 compared to the year prior. the average transaction price for a new vehicle was down .8%. meanwhile, the market for for some larger trucks and suvs has softened. data shows large pickup sales went down 1.9 % in 2024 and mid-sizedoff is sales fell 2.3%.

in line with the trends. >> they're going to look at vehicles that are a little bit more when we call pedestrian, vehicles that are affordable, that get you from point a to point b, that have some good elementary tech in it, get great miles per gallon but are not vehicles that are going to have a 0-60 of 4.2 seconds. >> reporter: and while small cars, trucks and suvs have caught the eye of consumers, some could soon get slapped with tariffs. president-elect trump is proposing a 25 tariff on goods manufactured in mexico and canada. tariffs could mean buyers would pay around $3,000 more for one of these vehicles if the manufacturers continue to make them in other countries. and you don't have to look farther than the window sticker to see where some of these vehicles are manufactured. this hrv right here, built in mexico where the is civic we were talking about earlier, that one was manufactured in canada. two examples of models that potentially would be impacted by

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♪ if. david: looking to shed those holiday pounds, elon musk is shedding some light on how he trimmed down in this festive christmas post. the doge co-chair crediting mounjaro for his slimmer figure, but is it safe for doctors to be recommending these diabetes drugs for weight loss in nyu school of medicine joins me now. dr. debbie, great to see you. thank you very much. happy new year if i don't see you before then. are these drugs safe to be used

just for weight loss? i know a lot of them are diabetes and weight loss is an added benefit to them, but if you're just out to lose weight, is it safe to use these drugs? >> well, it's a complicated answer because the study, typically you have to go through fda approval as well. but, generally speaking, a lot of studies even if the drugs don't have f fda approval, they are showing benefits for weight, and we have to think about the impact of that weight loss. if people lose weight aside from trimming the fat or looking better, it makes a major impact in terms of your cardiovascular risk factors, stroke also in the top ten, diabetes which separately is in the top ten and anecdoteally, you know, i see patients who have improvements in terms of arthritis and spinal disorders which can also be related to weight. but generally speaking, we do have to stick with fda approval. one of the issue is is we need to look also at the risk.

the more studies that are being done, we're seeing more benefits and new adverse side effects being added, and this is a shortage of not only the drugs, but also some of these long-term safety studies. david: well, one of the risks that i've talked about with a couple of doctors is not only does it trim fat, but it can also have an effect on your muscles. while taking away some fat, it could take away some muscles, and that could be a problem for your joints and for all those things that muscles are built to recollect protect -- to if protect, right? >> exactly. i mean, there's no substitute for diet or exercise. if we talk about what rfk jr. is saying, you know, you really need the kite and exercise -- the diet and exercise. in the studies they're combining the medications with kite and exercise, but there could be other added effect that is we're not aware of as well many terms of the muscle -- david: is it being overprescribed though for weight hobbs? i mean, inform on your fellow doctors, perhaps.

is it being prescribed too easily for folks who maybe would do better just dieting more and exercising more? >> well, there we get into a value judgment. i think right now the major issue is that there's a shortage of these medications. because some people are getting prescribed these medications for off-label uses, the problem is that exacerbates the shortage and makes it harder for people who do have diabetes with or who are overweight or obese and have multiple problems, people who are most at are risk, they may have a harder time getting the medication. david: yeah, okay. >> that's where the problem comes in. if we had more of a supply, that would be less of an issue. the other issue with supply as people are trying to get these medications, more counterfeiters, more illegal versions are appearing, so that's another problem. david: that's a big problem. i'm pushing you along a little because i want to get this in. you mentioned r rfk jr., the nominee for hhs secretary.

he sort of telegraphed out that he's against these tv ads for prescription if med sins that you see -- medicines that you see almost constantly. we have too short a period of time, only to seconds -- 30 seconds, but where do you standen that issue i? >> >> right. i'm generally a free speech advocate, but i think he brings up a good point that is all this advertising really making us healthier, or is it causing people to demand medications that are not as helpful for for them instead of alternatives that may be more useful. we need the look at the effects of those ads. is it bringing more attention to manager and improving health or clogging up the health care system? david: he talks about making america healthy again. generally speaking, what do you think of his nomination? quickly. >> i'm in favor of it. i mean, hi think he's really got his finger on the pulse of people's dissatisfaction with doing things the traditional way, and we need somebody with an air of skepticism to look at the way -- david: absolutely.

dr. debbie, we've got to leave it at that. have a wonderful new year. well, wicked weather causing a night-mare for millions of -- flight-mare for millions of travelers. and later, what is next for the migrants who's been charged with burning a woman to deaths -- to death on a new york city subway? we have the very latest, might make you mad, that's coming up. get free gifts to bring home, member deals to get more projects done and free standard shipping. start earning for free with mylowe's rewards today. ...

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