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rich: the search for interest is now underway for runway while landing south of seoul slammed into a concrete wall and exploded. all but two of the wondered 81 people on board were killed. this is a brand-new hour of "fox news live" i'm rich edson hi molly. molly: i am molly line the national transportation safety board is sending a team of investigators to help find out what happened in the plane's final moments. authorities are probing whether a bird strike damage the landing gear. experts in the speed of the plane and the way it tried to land are raising more questions than answers. >> it may not have been just the bird strike. there might've been other things that happ happened to that airp, we don't know. is very strange how the plate land that hot on the runway and 9200 feet to the point it literally was still going pretty strong when hit that wall. rich: stephanie bennett is live in london with the details at

this hour. >> yes those two survivors were two crewmembers and the youngest victim aboard this horrific plane crash was a 3-year-old little boy. some of these videos are hard to watch. the incident is the deadliest disaster in a south korea's aviation history of the boeing 737800 jet from bangkok was carrying 175 past years, six crewmembers a coal according to local reports when men in his 60s said five of his family members spanning three generations were on that plane. the president has apologized saying he feels fully responsible for the crash. the father of a passenger who died called the incident unbelievable. >> when i saw the accident of te video seemed out of control when the plane entered the airport with the pilots probably had no choice but to do it.

the control tower at milan international airport had warned the point about a possible bird strike and then a few minutes later the pilot issued a made a call. upon landing and immediately burst into flames. aviation experts are trying to understand why the aircraft flaps and landing gear were not in the right position. president joe biden said tonight our thoughts and prayers are with those impacted by this tragedy. the united states stands ready to provide any necessary assistance. for now a seven day national morning. we'll be taking place. that was declared by the country's acting president who has only been in that position since friday. back to you guys. rich: stephanie bennett live for us, stephanie thank you. molly: joining us for more on this kyle bailey pilot former faa safety team representative. kyle, thank you for joining us. >> good afternoon. molly: this video is terrifying

and terrible. perhaps gives you a few clues as to what may or may not have happened. i want to eat your initial reaction what might have happened. >> yes heartbreaking video indeed. from what i see it's very strange the aircraft has a highe high rate of speed. it's almost like it's in that cruise configuration the cruise aerodynamic configuration for a cruise flight not landing. it's coming in very heart hot and fast. it's really strange the landing gears in the up position and the flaps are in the up position. the airplane is no way to slow down in the air. the question is, as one while running or both engines? i can hear the while in the video. we have reports of a bird strike prior to that. the key here is also the end of the runway there was instrument landing equipment kind of like a small housing structure.

here in the u.s. those are pretty lightweight and designed to break apart if an airplane which are impacted. it appears in t the situation is like a solid >> structure in the vicinity of the runway. that explosion we are seeing i think is the impact of that structure. obviously the pilots had significant issues going on with the aircraft. the fact there is not a lot of communication leads me too jill believe they were dealing with multiple issues going on simultaneously inside the aircraft. molly: what you make of the theory there is a bird to strike or multiple birds encountered by this aircraft? could that have done this and resulted with the landing gear and lead to other things? what's highly unlikely. the landing gear has redundant system at the pilot flip a lever lead said they try everything else, that gear will freefall down and gravity will work and

the gear it wi will lock in thee down position. it's just very strange that happened as well as the flaps in the landing gear being up. even looking at that video, when i analyze it it's hard to tell if the airplane is slowing. or if it is trying to increase speed. obviously on its belly normally the airplane would slow very quickly with the friction of having no wheels down and there would be sparks. you can see a lot of exhaust coming out of the while. it does appear at least one of the engines was running. but the good news here, if there is any, we have the two black boxes in the tail that were recovered. based on the fact the tail was in fairly good condition that should be good data on those boxes. hopefully we will get a little bit of a picture as to what's going on the weeks to come.

>> ecke consequently do think up answers and clarity for people grieving right now? >> normally the investigations take in excess of a year. he usually drips of information trickle out. once they plug in those boxes as kind of like if you can imagine plug it into your home computer a simulator. that pretty much gives you a predict of every single thing around the aircraft the instrumentation, the power settings, the angle of the aircraft and it pretty much will give you a whole picture of what is going on. as well as the other box that will capture the complete communication and what's going on in the cockpit. molly: you mention how quick of the plane is coming and using the pilot had a plan? do you think you made a plan to pull up or there was something else expected to happen?

>> normally in this situation when the gears in the pilots will do a low flyby so the tower can visually report the gear iss up or down. a lot of times are might be a malfunction on the green lights so there would be eight flyby. the only thing i could speculate on was perhaps with the pilot have been attempting a go around? but again the airplane was on the ground. it does not make any sense what transpired. what i could tell you that there's a lot of things going to the minds of those pilots they were probably dealing with more than we can ever imagine at that moment. molly: miraculous anyone survive. supposedly two people made it to the crash. kyle bailey thank you for your expertise and happy new year to you. >> happy new year, thank you. rich: some breaking news reports a jimmy carter of the 39th

president of the united states has passed away at the age of 10030 came the first former president to reach that age october 1. his wife of 77 years former first lady rosalyn carter died in november 2023 at 96. carter was a peanut farmer from plains, georgia were sweaters and had a downhill manner. he served in the navy before serving politics versus a georgia state senator and later of the governor of the peach tthat carter was elected president in 1976 in the wake of watergate defeating incumbent gerald ford. partners term was marred by domestic and foreign issues several economic and challenges including high inflation and gas shortages he struggled with struggle of proms oversees the ironic hostage crisis. apartment losses 1980 bid for reelection to ronald reagan in a landslide. after leaving the white house he devoted his post- presidency to humanitarian efforts pretty focused and founded the atlanta-based carter presidential center to promote human rights across the globe

and won the nobel peace prize in 2002. he also worked extensively with you hhabitat for humanity volunteering to build houses well into his 90s. and for every 2020 the carter center announced he was receiving hospice care in his home at plains, georgia. special report anchor bret baier takes a look back jimmy carter's wife, presidency and legacy. website jimmy carter do solemnly swear request updated political trauma of watergate, jimmy carter's squeaky clean baptist background appealed to many americans. as if to demonstrate there is a new way of doing things in washington he began his presidency on a frigid january day in 1977 walking instead of writing the length of pennsylvania avenue from the capitol to the white house. the first president ever to do this. board and plains, georgia 19204 to peanut farming parents, carter attended the naval academy earning the rank of lieutenant.

in 1946 he married roselyn smith returned to plains in 1953 to run the family farming business. it was there that carter developed an interest in politics. his ehe was elected state senatn 1962 and governor of georgia in 1970. when he announced plans to run for president in 1974, carter was largely an unknown to mention when his party nomination edged out incumbent president gerald ford by just 2% of the popular vote. one of the closest margins in recent history. president carter's triumph came in 1978 he broke a marathon diplomatic talks between israel's and sadat of egypt. the resulting camp david accords ended years of fighting between the two countries. >> we've got to stop crying and start sweating. stop talking and start walking.

stop cursing and start praying. >> the late 70s or time of oil shortages, high unemployment double-digit inflation. carter worked diligently to solve these problems but the economy slipped into a recession. then, an event that would dominate the remainder of carter's presidency. iranian militants captured and held 52 american embassy employees hostage in tehran. unable to negotiate the release carter ordered a rescue mission which ended in disaster. eight american servicemen died when their helicopters collided in the iranian desert. >> americans in iran were mistreated. >> in 1980 voters rejected carter's bid for a second term to add insult to injury on the day he left office, the american hostages in tehran were released to the new reagan administration. carter returned to georgia through his nonprofit carter center, it remained active in

efforts to promote peace throughout the world his efforts were successful he garnered more respect after he left office then it while he wasn't it despite countless controversial statements in recent years including calls for the u.s. to legitimately legitimize hamas which has openly committed to the destruction of israel. he helped convince haitian militant dictator to relinquish control of the island nation to elected leader he monitored elections in nicaragua helped end a standoff over inspection of nuclear facilities between the u.s. and north korea. carter was often seen with hammer in hand building homes for the poor as part of his continuing support for habitat for humanity project. he wrote countless books including a one book of poetry and the memoir. in may 2002 carter took his first b but last trip to cuba. the first american president to visit in more than 40 years he

called for the u.s. to end its trade embargo while challenging fidel castro to institute democratic reforms. later that year the former president won the nobel peace prize for quote is decades of untiring effort to find peaceful solutions to international conflicts. during a trip to the middle east in the summer of 2009 and alleged assassination plot by al qaeda linked group was uncovered. though the president's aides said they had no knowledge of the plot against him. in the summer of 2010 carter traveled to north korea successfully securing the release of an american citizen who had been sentenced to eight years of hard labor after allegedly entering the country illegally. upon his return carter advocated the need for a comprehensive peace treaty with the isolated country arguing yang was ready to talk the u.s. should come to the table. carter did not hesitate to criticize the only other living president to be awarded the nobel peace prize denouncing

president obama for carrying out widespread drone strikes and warrantless wiretapping he also alsosaid the obama administratin waited too long to respond to the rising threat of isis. just months later carter announced he had melanoma that had spread to his liver and brain. tackling the diagnosis with a measure of faith and fortitude. through his cancer treatment the former president remained active contincontaining his charitabled religious activities. >> i do not know what the results will be but i'm ready for whatever comes. >> months later he was declared cancer free he continued to hammer away at his charitable work with habitat for humanity all the way into his 90s. >> likely get more out of it than we put into it although we work sometimes very hard and overwork on occasion. it was one of his last major public appearances made a show of bipartisanship joining for other living presidents at the funeral service of george h.w. bush in 2018.

second chances, james earl carter thrived on them. quickset had a wonderful life. i've had absolute friends and i have had exciting and adventurous and gratifying existence. >> overtime america developed a renewed appreciation for a man who resoundingly lost her reelection bid, this gentleman farmer from plains, georgia who rose to become the 39th president of the united states. in a washington bret baier fox news. molly: a remarkable life and very long life. jimmy carter passing away. our condolences to his family, three sons and daughter he had a long romance with his wife but we bring in now to talk to a senior political analyst brit hume, thank you so much for joining us to talk about this, as this coverage gets underway

with the loss of the former president jimmy carter. your thoughts as we look back on the man had a great love story a long life of faith and served as a present as wellin the middle of all this long enduring lifespan. plus it was an extraordinary it like a very long life he endured what a lot of people probably could not have for a very long time. he was true to his faith especially in his retirement is one term presidency was a politically unsuccessful he lost badly in 1982 ronald reagan as has been noted. his presidency and had some major successes that camp david accords as they were called between israel and asia being the most notable achievement. he deserves a lot of credit for he was a dog it in his pursuit of that agreement and presided

of the toxic camp david from which they emerged. he was a plague throughout his presidency by economic problems that he seemed unable to deal with finally he raised interest rates he would appall volker to be chairman of the federal reserve who in turn raise interest rates to try to stop the runaway inflation and in doing so raised interest rates to point nobody in seen them before and 80 modern era he also a lot of trouble overseas the iran hostage crisis that has been mentioned was a part of that he was never able to get the hostages released and finally they were on the day ronald reagan was inaugurated. molly: we think about that, what's remarkable about all the sins of folding that happened in the 40s of the presidency get he lived this long life of service prior to the presidency and then continued to find ways

to make remarkable changes and a remarkable life of service following the presidency with the humanities and habitat for humanity building and teaching sunday school well into his 90s. it's almost as impactful as in the presidency would be, it's almost as if this impact just lasted far beyond the presidency given this length of life that he had. i think of a gat many of americans who voted against him have ended up admiring the way he has conducted himself as a past president. he has been so truth to his faith the hughes work hard for this charity to see them on a ladder somewhere with a hard hat on hammering nails are doing whatever, helping habitat for humanity to build houses. he was quite strong in that regard and a lot of people admired that about him whether they liked it or not.

steve own of the most remarkable things about jimmy carter is just becoming present he was a remarkable campaigner one of those folks and help with the first the nation primary state of new hampshire on the map with his campaign style. this very personable style making inroads with people that otherwise would not have thought to give him the chance to be president. >> he really put the iowa caucuses on the map. nobody ever paid much attention to the first the nation primary was always considered to be the invent you had to hit first. i'm from what you gain momentum. he started going out to iowa early 1976 it may be earlier than that the beginning of that year and practically lived out there for a while when the caucuses came around he put so much effort out there they got more attention than they had ever previously gotten he won the caucuses and was off to the

races in the aftermath of watergate there is a certain tailwind behind any democratic nominee carter made the most of that. he presented himself as a simple man he would say pictures of him getting off his campaign plane he would have his clothing bag slung over his shoulder people thought it wasn't vertically presidential but that moment in american political history it seemed a welcome sight to many americans here's a regular guy than not that the republicans in particular in the next administration were a bunch of regular guys at all. so it helped them for a long time although by the time he was president he seemed to be overwhelmed by events. a remarkable personality all along the way that is for certain. brit hume thank you so much. we're glad were able to reach you and thank you for coming on to talk to us.

>> it is sad to see his passing all these certainly let the long life. >> he certainly did live a remarkable one. rich: you know, you think about this being a prime example of perhaps a public life, the lion's share of it happening after the oval office. even though plenty did happen and there are plenty of consequential moments during the carter administration. he remained as a britt detailed in his peace, he remained involved in government, and politics, and international diplomacy student congressional correspondent chad pergram on the phone here. chad quite a life lived for the former president jimmy carter. what's a couple of notes here. the things we are dealing with global issues in the world are some of the issues we are grappling with today. we talk about china, he was the first president to establish

relations with china that was back during his administration's with a round they dulled the ayatollah khamenei and 1979 in 1980 the iran hostage crisis was emblematic of the carter presidency. in march of 1980 and this. seventy-nine , 80 was very important in the carter administration that egypt and israel signed a peace accord. to bring things full-circle and terms of things that are in the national news right now we heard present electronic trying to reclaim the panama canal. during october of that period , 80's when it panama took control at 1970 and i should say when panama took control of the ca canal. again some of the same issues have been circulating as well 47 years hence in the 1979 -- 1980. with president carter. now, what will happen with carter's passing 34 persons who

have lain in-state in the capitol rotunda. that's probably inevitable with carter's a few exceptions with president of the modern era. richard nixon did not lay in state in the capitol rotunda 1974. i've been told since we knew he was in hospice of february last year 2023 he would probably lay in state on the eighth day. we are looking at about january 6 or january 7 conceivably for him to lay in state. the last person to lay in state in the capitol rotunda was harry reid senate majority leader was in january 2022. proctor that bob dole did senate majority leader also december of 2021. the last president george h.w. bush in december of 2018. this is what will happen on capitol hill with the late president jimmy carter laying in state probably in the capitol rotunda at some time in the next week to week and a half. rich: the carter center as i was

confirmation of president jimmy carter's death. they have come out with the statement along with the statement from chip carter the president sunsetting my father was a hero not only to me but to everyone who believes in peace, human rights, and unselfish love my brother, sister and i shared with him the rest of the world to these common beliefs. the world is our family because of the way he brought people together we thank you for honoring his memory by continuing to live these shared beliefs pretty also mentions there will be public observances in atlanta and washington d.c. shoot mention followed by a private interment in plains, georgia the final arrangements for carter's state funeral including all public events motorcade routes are still pending. chad, you talk about carter's national political ascendancy. he won a tight election against then sitting president gerald ford. directly in the wake of the watergate scandal.

what was washington like and what brought jimmy carter to the white house? >> the problem there for gerald ford is that he was never elected. he ascended from being the house minority leader to the president of the united states and being nixon second vice president all within 11 months that was a knock against him. look at the 1976 election and look at how close that was we talk about letter presidential elections are rather close. they look like they are a landslide or one president was favored over the other they are close and 76 depending upon the metric you use several tens of thousands of bouts in ohio certainly hawaii you probably would've had gerald ford elected this would have been a very different. but again people were coming off of 1974. so-called babies on the democratic side of the aisle the

republican brand certainly because of president nixon was tatoxic fight at that point. that was the break from the republican party. in earlier comments we were talking about some of the global issues how america seemed weak on the national stage with what was going on with ironic. very controversial thing in december of 1979 you had the soviets and gate invade afghanistan carter made a very controversial move in february 1980 and of course this was his reelection year against then later ronald reagan pretty pulled out of the mosque out summer olympics for that is a very divisive issue. and then in april 1980 you have failed rescue mission of the hostages. this is work carter you have the economic problems in the country also had the rescue mission of what was going on with the hostages being held in iran.

that stature of the united states is falling around the world through talk about the energy crisis of the late 70s and things, this is one of the things that stood out to me the most. this is a democratic house and senate that he had. judah 1980 democratic congress overrode a veto of carter. overwriting a veto of his own president thereby killing the fee unemployed oil because they needed oil. they needed gas prices and things like that fuel efficiency was a thing of that day for that is the beginning of the end. reagan comes in looking like an american hero. this was the beginning of the era. the other thing i find is he hd the most justices excuse me federal judges ever confirmed and the senate. this is something talked about in most recent days in the final days of the biden administration. he never got an opportunity to appoint anybody to the supreme court but one of the new

presidency served a complete term and never had that. i never got to put on the federal bench at the supreme court. sue for look at the parallels between the carter presidency a one term presidency, the biden presidency a one term presidency we were talking about inflation acting like a huge huge mileste last couple of years the highest level in 40 plus years your time of the carter administration very mission known for that the economic problems here at home after he left office is he not only helping the poor, building houses and active in his church, he also love these official/nine non- official around the world weathers to north korea, haiti, cuba, but to pretty extraordinary thing and set the tone for what we would come to see from some of his successors. >> absolutely this was a change he had a long post presidency

was leaned upon by presidents of both parties to discuss foreign policy sometimes served as an election observer sometimes in democracies around the world that was something very emblematic of the post card years after the white house. there were some people t notice posted presidency was better than his actual presidency this kind of change how stories think about jimmy carter. >> is funny he was very accessible to people in fact many, many years ago as a local reporter in savannah, georgia i spent a weekend in atlanta the carter lever is walking around ais a printed out piece of paper on the front door that said if you would like to meet president carter, and often planes georgia to the baptist church and president carter will take a photo with you after's bible study. sure thing there is a schedule on the website you drive on out to planes a few i went a few weekends later and there he was giving bible study and there was

the service and after words president carter, the first lady waited outside. they waited for every person in that building, in that church to come on out and take a photo with him if you wanted to wait for it. he was very gracious of you i know i have had that experience i know our colleague david's but correspond nbc has had that experience he was just a very accessible former president, right? >> yes i think that something people will talk about. because he was with us for so long. like at this age had posted presidency going on for so long he was able to do those things and remain in touch and stay engaged for decades. that is why and inevitably he would lie in state in the capitol rotunda why that's going to be a dramatic outpouring here sometime in the next week or week and a half when he lays in state. i think about other recent

figures who have lain in state there have been 34 persons who have lain in state in the capitol rotunda. this is usually how we honor our former late fall and president eight person of honor in the most recent again was george h.w. bush in terms of a president lying in state. a president lying in stage george h.w. bush was in december of 2018 for the last person to lie in state was here he read the democratic senator from the babbitt the majority leader. he died in january of 2022 and laid and sent the capitol rotunda. super senior congressional correspondent chad pergram thank you for that historical perspective and for giving us all this, this afternoon. very much appreciated. molly: new jersey republican congressman jeff van drew joins us now to talk about a remarkable life we are talk about former president jimmy carter passing our condolences expressed to his family. congressman we would like to get your thoughts as we are looking back at this long remarkable life.

>> i certainly send my condolences as well to his family. jimmy carter was a good man. if you were to put words together that would symbolize who he was. a good man, a faithful man, he left his faith. he l loved god. he loved people and he had a big heart. he had a difficult presidency, let's face it. as a time that during his presidency a lot of things did not go well. whether it was the energy issue or foreign affairs or the failed attempt to rescue the hostages. we know all of that. but what is kind of amazing about him, and i mean this honestly it was almost -- his time was almost better served after his presidency is posted presidency where he was able to do so much whether it was habitat for humanity or some of the international work he did. i think if he had a fault maybe he trusted people a little too

much. especially other countries, adversarial countries i don't think it was the best days in america in that sense we were taken advantage of. it was never miles apart for him. he truly believed in america went to the right thing but it wasn't was a difficult presiden. but now when you look back you see the substance of the man it's always be on democrat and republican it is about those who were good, those who were cared, he certainly cared and left america. roxy was a young president of the time of his presidency he and his wife rosen lived 77 years together in this beautiful marriage during his presidency amy lynn their daughter was in the white house a lot of people look back at that time also as a time there is a young family in the white house in a sense. he also you mentioned this remarkable life of service and post presidency and before serving in the navy, serving as governor ultimately making the

almost a theme of his entire life finding ways to give and to serve people throughout the course of this long lifetime. >> it's what people were looking for then post watergate, people were looking for someone who they believed was honest and pure and was going to really bring our nation back. and i think he did fulfill that that is something people needed at the time it was a difficult time in american history. there are certain issues that i think affect our country profoundly throughout the years watergate was one of them. if you look at vietnam, it was another one. culvert in the most recent era is another one where our cou country, a mark is left up on the country because of these larger-than-life issues. so he had to fill in that gap he brought in the goodness and the love and the decency. that part was there for sure. the practicality, some of the issues as he was president it

was a difficult time. you and i say? time heals all wounds i don't if he heals all wounds but any wounds that people feel he may have inflicted i think are healed because i think his intent was always to do good. you are right he served in the military pretty served as president he served in government, he served in politics he served his church. he served his family. he deeply loved his wife. he was very candid and honest in the way he spoke about his life and life of americans around him. i think he will be remembered with a kind heart, america's kind heart will reach out to him. molly: it's interesting to see some the challenges he faced in his presence in the late 70s and 80 and 81 but we are still visiting some of the issues today the panama canal treaty, camp david accords, creating peace between egypt and israel. we are still seeing tremendous strife in israel and challenges with iran he great diplomatic

times with china here we are having many challenges in that department as well. to a certain extent, many of the issues he faced we still faces challenges today. >> these are big issues they are not going to go away obviously. you are absolutely right. they have changed to some de degree. for example it was bold to reach out to china at the time both president nixon and president carter and that was a good thing in a way but now we have a different relationship with china we have to be strong with china make them realize this is a strong nation with strong borders and even the fentanyl issues. this is a time that is going to require eas by our president-elect, president trump is going to have to come in i think he will forge new relationships and better relationships. but it is going to be through through strength whether it is with china, in the mid east, whether it is with the former

soviet union, russia we are going to have to deal for all these countries f from a positin of strength. quite frankly not too different from what her conversations about today but because of where we have been under the last four years under the biden administration and has not been a strong administration at all. some of the problems i would submit to you some of the problems are actually deeper what has occurred during the past four years and even then. there were some very deep, very significant problems then but ronald reagan came in and were able to's rate and a great deal of that out again peace through strength. i think we'll see that again as well. see if i were all of this great american store we do appreciate your insights right now congressman jeff van drew thank you for joining us as we look back on the life of former president. >> happy new year per. >> happy new year to you too we look back on over president jimmy carter's life. rich: georgia congressman buddy carter on the phone right now but congressman, thank you for

joining us. i want you to comment on president carter's comment what he meant in his legacy for georgia politics. we've been talking so much about the national legacy that he has on the international one. he's the first and only president elected from the peach state. it was the governor of georgia. what does this mean for georgia? >> it meant a lot office of the first president to be from georgia he was our former governor we were all very proud of jimmy carter and the work that he did. he honestly had a very difficult presidency. but particularly the work he did after he left the white house. that made everyone in the state very, very proud. obviously he was very active he and his wife roslyn i had the honor of serving with his grandson jason in the georgia state senate recently have gotten to know another one of his grandsons, josh having

worked honoring rosalyn carter and her work and mental health. josh and i have become friends. it is just a fine family and one all georgians are very proud of. rich: he remained extremely active in the state. not only traveling to places like haiti and north korea, but really becoming a fixture in the state after his presidency, right? >> he did and the carter center is in atlanta and does outstanding work. the work that centers oath elections, national elections all across the world and the input they have had in that has had a lasting legacy and made all of us are proud here in the state of georgia but we may have differed in the way we felt like we should get to a certain point. but we certainly always respected the fact that he was a man of good character.

and certainly someone who came along at the right time. if you will remember was posted watergate and i think america was looking for someone who is honest and pure and he was that. we all respected that. rich: look at the period of national politics y he mentioned 1976 when he was elected. it was just a couple years after the watergate scandal. what did his election mean for the country at a time that was looking to move on to some pretty toxic politics? >> there were some toxic politics after that. but when he came in he was summoned of great faith. someone who did not hide that faith who is proud to talk about that faith i can remember being at church and i can remember the preacher saying look, if the president of the united states has time to prepare sunday school lesson, none of us have

an excuse for not teaching sunday school and i remember thinking while yes the president of the united states is teaching sunday school none of us have an excuse to say we can't and don't have time to do something like that. georgia is the bible belt. it still is that was very important. so f for anita vogel our colleae pointed out over e-mails we've been chatting over this that he and roselyn used to read the bible in spanish to one another to try to work on their spanish skills as they done so much work and spanish-speaking countries. what better way for the carter's to master their spanish skills than by reading the bible? [laughter] talk about the presidents of faith how much that guided him and how much that does guide many politicians. >> it does does guide them a lot of politicians more so that i

think is given credit for. we have a numer numerous bible s in congress now. i was to the reputation of congress isn't the best in the world right now but come at the same time people ask me all the time was the most surprising thing you found being a member of congress cosmic the most surprising thing is also the most satisfying thing there are a lot of good people in congress. they are a lot of good people who are believers in up there for the right reason to move this country forward. jimmy carter was up there for the right reason. now it very difficult times that he faced. we are still facing some of his difficulties now that he faced. and certainly at challenges all of us. being a man of faith i think he showed us all and set a great example for the book he wrote after words keeping faith. i enjoyed the book very much.

rich: this is a time that's virtually divisive in our politics in this country. he is six years ago that the country paid his final respects to george h.w. bush a one term republican. now it will do so to president jimmy carter, a democrat but what does it say our politics can come together there are good people presidents known as a legacy while you might disagree with the way they have their policy in office but you can still get together. how do we get to a spot where we can have conversations democrats, republicans, independents can do so without vilifying the other side personally? >> i think it has to come from within. it has to come from within all of us. how hypocritical is that we go to church on sunday event on that onmonday were fighting liks and dogs. look, i am from south georgia. i flipped her all my life this is truly the bible belt we go to

church down here. truly it is important to us. at the same time we got to think about when we treat each other. particularly in washington. it's not as if it is black-and-white there are a lot of gray areas there sometimes in the media does not perpetrate that the way i would hope that they would. i wrote an article recently using the members and jim and how bipartisan it's very bipartisan. we do a lot of work together in congress it does not get the coverage that obviously that wedge issues get. stover, somebody carter of georgia thank you so much for joining us this afternoon with your perspective on president jimmy carter who is died at 100. thank you. >> thank you. molly: thanks rich would bring a noun jon bussey associate editor of the wall street journal. jon, thanks for joining us as

were taking a look back at the life of the former president, jimmy carter was passed away at 100 years old a remarkable long life. i just want to start with your early reflections your early thoughts tonight. >> remarkably long and productive life. a one term president who got a fair amount done during that one term. but also people remer jimmy carter for the work he did afterward. monitoring elections around the world, dealing with diseases around the world, finding funds to help eradicate diseases in africa. his work with habitat for humanity late into his life out there building houses. it's kind of hard to find a president that animated the presidency more post- presidency than jimmy carter he really just had a very sort of fruitful life and actively to the point that is 2002, 22 years after he left

the presidency he was awarded the nobel peace prize for many of the things he did after his presidency and observing peace efforts around the world. but also for the camp david accords a piece of treaty between israel and egypt which have stated to this day and has been bulwark of peace in the middle east. molly: i think inflating to something for a number talk about long life in enduring qualities that grew on america in those years after his presidency paid whether they believed is a good president or not or agreed with his politics along the way. he wrote many books he was a prolific author and voice went fwonderful life reflections at 90. you really understood were jimmy carter was coming from over the course of his later life. he was open and sharing in those reflections. as we are collectively looking back on this in american courts were going to talk about the four years in the presidency. but you are right given the

length of a life it seems to be dwarfed in comparison to the broader perspective of this man who lived a great love story and will be on the presidency made so many remarkable connections and did so much. >> very much so. i think most people will remember him more for life after the presidency than during the four short years. mind you it was a pretty active time in the white house as well. this was a president who enjoyed his music the rock 'n' roll president he brought a lot of music types to the white house. had an integration of culture into white house activities. he was a micromanager he was criticized by a lot of people are getting down into the weeds too much this is a guy who worked on nuclear submarines. at a navy background, was highly disciplined and brought a lot of

that to the white house. remember also we were coming out of post- watergate. a couple of your guests remarked on this before, the country was just slams by the corruption of the presidency under richard nixon, gerald ford was not part of that but seem to be an interim president. and then along comes jimmy carter this fresh face. this guy, it was a longshot for the presidency by the governor of georgia from the planes i'm sorry where? [laughter] who are you? that brought romance to the presidency and to the election that he served for a wild but they must pretty heavily criticized when he began to talk about america having lost its confidence. and then remembered the embassy takeover in iran and tehran and the failed rescue effort that doomed the presidential election for him at the end of 1979.

>> or talk about when the most remarkable speeches he made he talks about a crisis of confidence in america was tied to some extent to the energy crisis going on for the economic crisis going on. some of the soaring gas prices in the domestic challenges that seem to haunches a presidency for the four years. your thoughts on those moments that are hard to overcome, not to mention reagan himself also great campaigner i big challenge beyond that but the economic challenges that jimmy carter faced seem to weigh things onto great extent. >> is a period of stagnation people forget what that was like. it was sort of inflation with the sideways moving economy was rotten for everybody. it was a product of a knock on effect after spending of the vietnam war and the energy

crisis as you mentioned. that was a time remember this long gas lines people waiting forever to get their tanks filled. that was a function of the u.s. not being what it is today. today it is the largest exporter of oil. i has incredible resources and energy and oil and gas. that was not the case back in the 1970s. we were reliant on opec which moved prices up and down at its own will. and punish the u.s. the oil embargo punish the u.s. for its foreign policy abroad. jimmy carter was blamed for that. people remember those things the energy crisis, the failed effort to get the hostages out of the embassy in tehran and then along comes ronald reagan this california actor with a very different prognosis for america

it was just going to be very hard slope for jimmy carter to crawl up and when that election in 1980. stupid jon bussey also journal associate editor thank you so much reflections right now some of that life as a president jimmy carter. rich: tribbett's are coming in from republicans we've now got up until recently the minority leader in the center republican leader there mitch mcconnell saying jimmy carter's character and commitment just like his crops were fruits of all american soil. after every season when life led him to lofty service far from home he came back home again determined to plow his unique experiences and influence into helping others but also hearing of chuck grassley is going to be the longest tenured republican in the u.s. senate the people of iowa do jimmy carter well from his time living in the state before the iowa caucuses and a 75 he worked hard open the door to the white house through his retail politics, barbara and i are praying for the carter

family. this is good time now to bring in my colleague and friend justice correspondent david spock has been in contact with the carter family. he joined us on the phone now. david, unite talks about this in the office in d.c. i've had the pleasure of meeting president carter but you had a very deep correspondence with him over years you have interviewed him. tell us about that. >> thanks for having me and i'm sorry to hear this. god bless jimmy carter he lived an impressive life, he did it he made it to 100 from 19204 until 2024. i first met him almost 20 years ago i was a reporter in columbus, georgia it was my first job i was tapped with going down and covering a baseball game and planes, georgia that he did every year with the local planes a baseball team and the secret service baseball team played each other. i remember i was there with my camera and i asked if i can talk to them they said sure, no

problem i will never forget it was hot, it was swampy, there were gnats crawling over my face, crawling all his face he did not bother him at all jimmy carter had led lifter decades and decades of living on a farm. he came to be the president of the united states he chose to go back to be in planes, georgia he's the only president ever graduate from the united states naval academy another impressive feat. and i think it was a couple years after i met him i want to say it was 2009 i met him in 2007's almost 20 years ago he gave me an hour long interview at his boyhood home and that's in planes, georgia. it is the home or he grew up with his parents, and his sister, and his brother. he was so humble talking about his life and what always brought him back to planes white plains was always there no matter where he went. he had dreams at one point in his life to go on he studied

that naval genius and met so many people became governor and then present it truly could have done anything and said i want to come back to planes, georgia you may have mentioned earlier taught church this is something that comes out for many, many years that he found. he along with my friend jana williams and many other people really stayed humble and stayed with it in plain everything was about planes, and the message, and god, and the importance of church and family and friends. from what i remember he would read the bible in spanish, and english and he would always take time to stand there with his wife the late rosalynn carter and take photographs with every person who wanted to at that church and quite a gentleman.

he will be missed. >> you run into so many people are in demand interviews former presidents and athletes often their time is oppressed they often have a large around them and it's tough to really get to know them. when you were interviewing president carter, what was it like? were you able to get a sense of who he was? could you do small talk to the ask about your family? what was he like to meet in person? >> very laid back. very informal a gentleman. someone who was well read it. read.somebody who knew who i wa, where i was. what i did he came to meet me and his boyhood home and when i was a young reporter probably in my early 20s at the time. the things he took time out of his is scheduled to come meet with me, spend an hour with me and my former colleague and just to spend an hour as i mentioned my friend jan williams has been a longtime friend of carter's. it really meant a lot to me that

he did that. when my daughter was born several years back he signed a book for her it was someone stayed in touch with loosely. and he really, like i said was the last generation of that world war ii generation. his parents were born 1890s and his dad might've been the late 1880s his mother ms. lillian alert live until the 1980s if not 1980 and he stayed true to his roots in a stayed true to planes. that really speaks a lot. the former president of the united states going back to your home and it's a very immodest style home in planes, georgia presents where he wanted to live for the rest of his life. that's what he and ruslan did. >> he wrote dozens of books he decided to stay talk about rosalynn and his relationship if they're married for seven plus

decades. one of the most and during marriages and relationships that have ever really been. >> the way i understand it is that he and rosalynn carter met when she was just a few months old in 19207. [laughter] think about that. and the reason i know that is from what i understand his ms. lillian carter, jimmy carter's mother was a nurse when rosalynn was an infant. you have to member planes, georgia 19207 probably not a lot of people. so the story goes he met rosalynn when he was three or four years old and she was an infant. they obviously did not connect until many, many years later. but the point is, that is someone he saw that he knew her entire life from when she wasn't infant until she died.

she was always there by his side. always there by his side and encouraging force. somebody that truly, truly said to him if you want to go back to planes, let's go back to planes i met her at interviewed her at one point i remember, i will never forget she told me after jimmy carter became president she cried because she felt the world was safe because jimmy carter was president. >> and about 90 seconds before the top of the hour. i want to your final thoughts as someone who has had correspondence and met and interviewed jimmy carter. on his life, on his legacy and what that means to you and what that means to the country really. >> i am just so impressed that jimmy carter is somebody that became president of the united states for he went to the naval academy, taught church, took the time to meet people. rode his bike around planes he was accessible. you got to know him.

habitat for humanity, building homes, the carter center, trying to eradicate different diseases, rare diseases around the world. this is someone who did not rest after he left the presidency. he could have left and gone into the shadows and he stayed in the spotlight. not because it was about him he stayed in the spotlight to help other it's an absolutely remarkable legacy and one that's the modern template for post presidency and by the way, david template that hasn't really been equal so david spunt justice correspondent thank you so much for joining us today. a day where president jimmy carter has died at the age of 100. very much appreciated.