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former president jimmy carter has died at the age of 100. >> hello everyone i'm lisa boothe along with sarah carter and welcome to a special extended two hour edition of the big weekend show. carter the longest lived american president devoted much of his post presidency hepping others and rosalynn found carter center in 1882 to advance human rights he traveled extensively to conduct peace negotiations observe elections and advance disease prervetion. fox news anchor bret baier takes a look back on the life and legacy of jimmy carter the 33th president. >> after the political trauma of water gait jimmy carter baptist background appealed to many americans. as if to demonstrate there was a new way of doing things in washington he began his presidency on a frigid january day in 1977. walking instead of riding the length of pennsylvania avenue from the capitol to the white
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house. the first president ever to do this. >> born in plains georgia in 1924 to peanut farming parents carter attended the naval academy earning rank of lieutenant. in 1946 he married rosalynn smith and returned to plains in 1953 to run the family farming business. it was there that carter developed an interest in politics. he was elected state senator in 1962. and governor of georgia in 1970. >> i'm accounted for president -- >> announced plans to run for president in 1974, carter was largely an unknown. but he managed to win his party's nomination and edge out incumbent president gerald ford by 2% of the popular votes. one of the closest margins in recent history. president carter greatest triumph in 19 m when he brokered marathon diplomatic talks and of egypt. the resulting camp david accords
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ended years of fighting between the two countries. >> they've got to stop crime and start sweating. stop talking. and start walking. stop cursing and start praying. >> late 70s were a time of oil shortages, high unemployment, and double digit inflation. carter worked diligently to solve these problems but the economy slipped into a recession. then in an event that would dominate remainder of carter's presidency. iranian militants captured and held 52 american embassy employees hostage in tehran unable to negotiate their release, carter ordered a rescue mission which ended in disaster, eight american servicemen died when their helicopters collided in the iranian desert. >> americans in iran -- will have mistreated -- >> in 1980 voters rejected bid for a second term and to add
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insult to injury on the day he left office the american hostages in tehran were released to the new reagan administration. carter returned to georgia and through his nonprofit carter center, remained active in efforts to promote peace around the world his efforts were successful. and he gardened more respect after he left office than while he was in it. despite countless controversial statements in recent years, including calls for the u.s. to legitimatize terror group hamas openly committed to destruction of israel he helped convince haitian raul to relinquish control of the island nation to elected leader. he monitored elections in nying between the u.s. and north korea and often seen with hammer in hand building homes for the poor as part of his continuing support for the habitat for humanity project. he wrote countless books,
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including one book of poetry and a memoir in may 2002 carter took his first but not last trip to cuba. the first american president to visit in more than 40 years. he called for the u.s. to end its trade embargo while challenges fidel castro to institute democratic reforms. later that year, former president won the noble peace prize, for, quote, his decades of untiring effort to find peaceful solutions to international conflicts. during a trip to the middle east in the summer of 2009, and allege assassination plot by al qaeda drop uncovered, though, the president aids say they have no knowledge of the plot against him in summer of 2010 carter traveled to north korea. successfully securing the release of an american citizen, who had been sentenced to eight years of hard labor after allegedly entering the country illegally. upon his return, carter advocated the need for a comprehensive peace treaty with
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the isolated country. arguing pongyang was ready to talk and carter didn't he hesite to criticize the president awarded noble peace prize denounces president obama for carrying out widespread drone strikes and wireless tapping and obama waited too long to respond to rising threat of isis. just months later, carter announced he had melanoma that spread to his liver and brain. tackling the diagnosis, with a measure of faith and fortitude. through his cancer treatment, former president remained active continuing his charitable and religious activities. >> i don't know what results will be but i'm ready for whatever comes. >> months later declared cancer free he continued to hammer away at his habitat for humanity, all the way into his 90s. >> feel like we always get more out of it than we put in to it
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although we work hard and overwork on occasion. >> in one of the last major public appearances made a show of bipartisanship, joining four other living presidents at the funeral service of george h.w. bush in 2018 second chances, james earl carter thrived on them. >> i had a wonderful life. i've had thousands of friends, and i've had an exciting and adventurous existence. >> over time americans developed a renewed appreciation for a man who resoundingly lost a reelection bid. this gentlemen farmer from plains, georgia, who rose to become the 39th president of the united states. ing in washington, bret baier fox news. >> now we're awaiting remarks from president joe biden we'll go live when we have those but first leaders from around the world are reacting to the death of president carter. including a written statement from president biden, and
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president-elect donald trump. lucas tomlinson has more on their condolences on the u.s. virgin islands. >> well good evening we're awaiting that statement from president biden here in st. croix he should be speaking in the next few minutes but in the meantime we have that paper statement issued from the white house i'll read earlier from president biden. it says in part, quote, today american the world lost an extraordinary leader statesman and humanitarian. over six decades we have the honor of calling jimmy carter a dear friend but what's extraordinary about jimmy carter, though, is that millions of people throughout america and world who never met him thought of him as a dear friend as well. with his compassion and moral clarity he worked to e rad cat disease, forge peace advance civil and human rights free and fair elections house the homeless and always advocate for least among us and he saved he lifted and changed lives of people all across the globe. he was a man of create character
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and courage hope and optimism and cherish seeing him and rosalynn together the definition of partnership, and their humble leadership is the definition of patriotism and just in the last few hours we have from president-elect donald trump as you just showed there if you can bring that back lisa it says, quote, from president-elect donald trump, i just heard about the news about passing of jimmy carter those of us fortunate to have served as president understand this is a very exclusive club. and only we can relate to the enormous responsibility of leading the greatest nation in history. the challenges jimmy face as president came at a pivotal time for our country and he did everything in his power to improve lives of all americans for that, we all owe him a debt of gratitude melania and i are thinking warmly of the carter family and loved ones during this difficult time we urge everyone to keep them in and hearts and prayers. notable lisa that president carter said first president of
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the united states graduate from the u.s. naval academy after serving board nerf surface ships including uss mississippi to the submarine forces and the father of the nuclear navy. he had slated then lieutenant jimmy carter for promotion. but in 1953 when carter was lieutenant, he thought he was destine for a career of naval services wife rosalynn didn't want him to leave and when jimmy carter's father died in 1953 jimmy carter made a difficult but noble honorable decision that was to go back to plains, georgia, to take over the family business the peanut business, of course. that helped launch a political career took him to the heights as president-elect donald trump said to a very exclusive club also notable, president joe biden was first to endorse jimmy carter one of the first he was a 35-year-old senator in 1980 and warned him that ted kennedy was going to try to primary him so certainly one of the reasons
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here on vacation, st. croix president biden could have issued that paper statement on his way to give parts tonight. lisa. lisa: thank you lucas appreciate it. joining us now by phone is executive anchor of "special report" bret baier. hi bret jimmy carter leaves behind a complicated legacy known to be a good man as we heard humanitarian loved god loved his wife. but his presidency is marred by, you know, foreign policy and economic failures. how should we remember jimmy carter? >> well, good evening, i think -- his most memorable moments for post presidency happened in all that he did to serve. and in his life is service. so maybe remembrance of service. obviously, his post presidency is a different tinge to look at and habitat for humanity he built 4,000 homes on four
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different continents. he wrote 32 different books, and was prolific author, obviously, went from peanut farmer but also a baptist preacher of who continued doing sunday school with his church down in georgia in late into his 90s. obviously, he's the oldest u.s. president, and dying at 100, his wife rosalynn dying at 96 in 2023. so his post presidency i think is where a lot of people are going to remember jimmy carter because you are right his presidency was marred by not only high inflation, but 14 months of hostages being held in iran that were released the day he left office. >> bret it's guy benson i want to talk earlier part of his life which spanned a century which is really incredible. the american story of jimmy
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carter is exceptional and you look at his service in the navy which lucas tomlinson just mentioned you look at love affair with his wife that lasted decades. they were married in 1946 and they were married until she passed just last year. i mean, before he became president, this was an outstanding american life. was it not? >> it was. and you know, it was the quintessential politician, small town who identified who the country could identify with. he went from a peanut farmer in plains, georgia, to become georgia's governor, and in that way make a footprint there that caught the eye of the democratic party overall. to the point where he was a contender against gerald ford, and kind of came out of nowhere early on. but in the end, was the guy that because of all of his past being
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a u.s. navy veteran, being wearing and talking about his christian faith openly, was a very attractive thing at that moment. when gerald ford was running -- >> bret, dr. siegel amazing package only thing you didn't mention in the package in the post presidency was his fight against ginny worm with three and a half million cases in 1986 and 2022 down to 13 cases because of his work and the work of the center and, of course, his fight against melanoma which you did mention. convince the world that it was okay to take immune though therapy for melanoma what do you have to say about these things? >> yeah. listen you nailed some of those things and they -- are part of his past. the bliewnt that blueprint that makes up jimmy carter and a lot of his successes. a lot of times politically they talk about in the history books a lot of his failures.
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and some of the challenges that he, obviously, faced in reelection, but he did do a number of different things those are two big ones when it came to health. glis bret baier we appreciate it. now let's bring in buddy carter first we're also -- okay, just we'll start off saying no relationship congressman to the late president. we've talked a little bit about the national legacy of jimmy carter but you hail from the state of ghast he was a state senator first then governor of georgia. how will the state of georgia remember the late president? >> well i think they'll remember him very pongedly. we're very proud of jimmy carter and work he did along with his wife roseline and we're very proud particularly of his post presidency and carter center has done an outstanding job and you know, while he did have some, some victories you will while he
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was in office camp david accords, infectious diseases as you pointed out all of those were good his presidency wasn't the best but we in georgia are very, very proud of him particularly because of his stance on faith he brought faith to the fore front and -- and faith is very important to us in georgia particularly in south georgia. and he may be remembered more for his faith than for his politics. >> hi congressman nice to have you on here. one of the issues that i want to talk about with president carter was what he had to deal with globally. i mean, many of the same issues and chad pilgrim our colleague brought this up many of the same issues that he dealt with as president we're dealing with now whether that is iran. whether that is the panama canal a lot of same global issues. i know that we can have our differences democrats, republicans, but what were the lessons learned from jimmy carter that president-elect trump can take from at this
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point in time? >> well, i think president trump understands and, in fact, in his message he alluded to the fact that, you know, as a difficult job. and these are difficult decisions. i remember in his bookkeeping faith jimmy carter said that every decision he ever made was a difficult decision all of the easy decisions had been made below him if it rose to that level it was a difficult decision and i could feel just how difficult it was for him. when he was serving in that position but again his faith i think is what carried him through. and helped him to make a lot of these great decisions. >> congressman buddy carter we appreciate it we're also following another fox news alert a team of u.s. investigators is assisting the probe into the plane crash that killed at least 179 people in south korea. so what went wrong? "fox report" anchor license pilot jon scott joins us to discuss that, next. ♪ ♪
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this plane veered off the runway and collided with a concrete fence. joining us now by phone is "fox report" anchor jon scott who is also a certified pilot. jon thanks for your time here tonight. when you look at that footage and you're starting to read more about this terrible accident, i think often people hear a phrase like oh it skidded off the runway, and they don't expect a death toll like the one that we've seen what sticks out to you about this case and this incident? >> it is terrible bad luck and perhaps some bad resource management in the cockpit i hate to blame the pilots and it is going to be up to the investigating authorities to finally decide what exactly went wrong but a couple of things i've flown boeing 7-simulator and i've spoken to a friend with thousands of hours in it. he says even if you lose your
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engines and your hydraulic gear, you can pull three levers in the cockpit and gear will drop down under the weight and force of gravity still they should have had landing gear. i don't understand why they didn't. it is a mystery to me. the other tragic thing is that the localizer antenna at the end of the runway was built on what looks like a reenforced concrete wall that's four or six feet high. i don't know why they have such a robust structure they could have made it out of wood or could have put poles all the way to the ground. but that hitting that concrete wall is what tore the plane apart and created the fireball. >> hi jon this is sarah carter i'm curious what the next steps will be as far as the investigators and what role will boeing play in that investigation. what will they be asked of? >> i'm sure boeing will be
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involved in the investigation. but it is really up to the investigating authorities in south korea to decide who they want, you know, to bring in. i'm sure the u.s. government, you know, ntsb will offer its help and they might accept that. but boeing also will offer its assistance, but whether they will accept that's totally up to the south korean government. >> jon i want to ask -- >> doctor sorry i have to jump in here with a fox news alert president joe biden has now come to the podium in the u.s. virgin islands, reflecting on the death of president carter. let's listen. >> today, americaing and the world in my view lost a remarkable leader. he was a statesman, humanitarian, and lost a dear friend. i've been hanging out with jimmy carter for 50 years it dawned on me and i had countless conversations over those years.
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always been proud to say that that i was the first national figure to endorse him in 1976 when he ran for president. it was an overwhelming reason for it, his character, what i find extraordinary about jimmy carter, though, is millions of people all around the world all over the world feel they lost a friend as well. even though they never met him. that's because jimmy carter lived a life measured not by words but by his deeds look at his life. his lives work he worked to eradicate disease not at home but around the world he forged peace. advance civil rights, human rights, promoted free and fair elections around the world. he built housing for homeless with hands and his compassion and moral clarity people up with changed lives and saved lives
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all over the globe jimmy carter was as courageous as battling his cancer and everything in his life. cancer is a common bond between two families and as well as other families, and our son beau died when he died jimmy and rose were there to help us heal. jimmy knew the ravage of the disease too well, he lost his father, his brother, his sisters to this terrible disease. it is when jimmy was diagnosed he did our best to comfort him. we met with him down in plains and -- he talked and shared our beliefs as a nation, we have the talent, weft talent and the resources to one day cancer as we know it if we make the investments. he believed that like i do. i'll always cherish seeing jimmy and rosalynn carter together theirs was a love affair of the ages and miss them both dearly and take solace and kids were
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saying that the united once again remain forever in each hearts but they're together again. the entire carter family on behalf of the world, the whole nation we sent our heart felt sympathies and gratitude our gratitude for sharing president carter with us for so many years. you know, jimmy carter stands as a model of what it means to live a life of meaning and purpose. life of principle, faith and humility. his life dedicate to others, you know he was like my dad he thought that -- you say joey a lot more than a paycheck but about dignity, your dignity and looking you in the eye saying everything is going to be okay. he believed as i do and many of you do, that that's absolutely possible, possible. it's in our grasp to do that. it is not that hard. his life he served a nation in the navy. he lived in state of georgia and
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became president. and a beloved statesman all over the world. but to know his core he needed to know he never stopped being a sunday school teacher at that baptist church in plains, georgia. today is where i'll look at jimmy carter see a by gone era with honesty, character, faith humility that mattered but beyond believe this is a by gone era but it is time but for all times. someone who embodied most fundamental human values we can never let slip away and although sometime it is seems like it is. we may never see his life again and be a little more like jimmy carter. you know my mom you've heard me say this before used to say bravery lives in every heart someday i'll be summoned every time he was summoned he stepped up every time, politically, personally, morally, you know,
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everything one thing i admired most about him -- he thought and believed he really did believe this -- and i do as well, everybody deserves an even shot. no guarantees just a shot. everybody deserves a shot. and you know, i, he gave an awful lot of people a chance. so as i said, i admire and consider myself a friend, and someone going to tell you a story his son told me but maybe inappropriate maybe he'll tell you -- but he i think he's happy. i think he's happier with rosalynn so -- [inaudible conversations] >> about jimmy carter's time after leaving office that inspired --
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>> never give up hope. never give up hope. i mean, it from the bottom of my heart. so much negativism out there. i know you're tired to hear me say it over the last four years but folks there's nothing beyond our capacity. nothing beyond our capacity. if we do it together. i mean it. i mean it. he believed it. >> sir what is your fondest memory of jimmy carter? >> i have a number of them i guess maybe my fondest memory of jimmy carter was when he -- [laughter] he grabbed me by the arm and said, need you to help me with my campaign i said i've only been around a couple of years, governor. he said no i'll make a difference. and i said i'm the not sure well he said no i will. when i endorsed him, for president i told him why i was going to endorse him that it was not only his policies but his
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character, his decency, the honor he communicated to everyone. and he was also very, very hero -- very kind jill and me when we lost our son beau they were there for us, and i don't know it's -- i think with jimmy carter an example of is just simple decency. simple decency. and i think that's the rest the world looks to america for. >> what's that -- for the family -- >> all of the children -- maybe got off the phone i think there were i don't know how many on the phone. but i think and i spoken to some of the friends of the family they're helping with the services. and my team is working with his
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family, and others to see to it that he's remembered appropriately here in the united states and around the world. there was a process we're going through that will take time to set up this -- i announced earlier today we're going to do a major service in washington, d.c. on behalf of -- but that's a formal procedure. that's underway. so i'm sure we start talking a lot to the family between now and made contact with chip. [inaudible conversations] >> decency -- decency. decency. everybody deserves a shot. everybody. can you imagine jimmy carter walking by someone who needs something and just keep walking? can you imagine jimmy carter
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referring to someone by the way they look or the way they talk? i can't. i can't. you know, i think the end of the deal here is that one of the reasons why we looked to by the rest of the world is a book of our -- our nation. we've laid out what our values are. we said what we believe it is not just a declaration we hold these truths to be self-evident but it is a feeling the rest the world looks to us. looks to us. and he was worth looking to. thank you very much. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> that was the president of the united states reacting to the death of his predecessor 39th president dead today at the age of 100. biden speaking movingly at times. very personally, about jimmy
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carter he called him a statesman, a friend of his for over 50 years biden said, he referred to the 39th president as a man of character, and courage he made reference to that very long marriage between president carter and late wife rosalynn said that jimmy carter led a life of meaning and purpose, faith, and humility and word that he came to over and over again was decency in describing the man jimmy carter who we lost and mourning here today to that point lisa boothe doing bring it out to the table you told us a story a personal story that someone in your family had and an interaction that i think plays into what we heard from joe biden. >> i was talking to my dad before the show like i normally to and he was flying from dca to atlanta and jimmy carter was and to the commercial with his flight so he said what he did as we went through the flight and shook hands with everyone on the flight that wanted to shake his
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hand. also took selfies with everyone who wanted to take a picture with him, and my dad said he thought to himself this man is a class act what a classy thing to do, and so you know, of course, we want to remember that legacy of him being a good and decent man wanting to be with the people. >> that is such a great story that shows complexity of politics right, and when we can be after each other one minute and next minute something tragic like this happens. and it gives us a moment to reflect on our nation, and the people that have served this country like president carter allows us to put our differences aside and find that kind of common ground, i think, where we all connect and that's such a beautiful story and you know guy, when you talk about their marriage. 77 years. i mean, that's -- that's just unbelievable to me like -- you never see that anymore. so this really is a moment to remember. all of the good things about president carter and that -- i think dr. siegel what makes our nation so great. >> i've done a lot of work them
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and the first question i ever asked them is what role does president carter play here and he said he's our friend he's involved in everything. and guy, that is not a photo op when he's banging nails into those houses that's what he did. he was hands on just like on that plane. all of the time. >> he did that into his 90s. right he was out building homes for poor people around the world into his 90s that is just amazing. and you know, sarah i can't help but think about the faith aspect of this as well. jimmy carter devote baptist a sunday school teacher and linked to the decency we keep hearing about. >> i think that faith is part of the american people it is like you said, in his 90s, he's building homes, it gives us hope for all of us like, we're going get older get older with grace, and do your best no matter what. >> joining us now by phone is former white house deputy chief of staff under president jorntle
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w. bush fox news contributor karl rove you go back to when he was president. you were starting out in those days. tell me what you think president carter's legacy is. >> well, first of all i met him when he was in my early 20s and i happen to be walking through the old washington national airport in 1975, and he was walking through the airport as well carrying his suit and his suit bag over his shoulder, and i introduced myself as a young staffer as a republican national committee and we chitchatted talking about the bid for the presidency he was going to run for president. and he gave him his business card as governor of georgia, and asked me to keep an open mind with a laugh in his voice. [laughter] and i wish i had kept that business card but -- today talk so much about his decency and this was a reason why he was elected president the country was bitterly divided our prestige has been hurt in the
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aftermath of "watergate" people did not believe in the presidency. and here was a man of enormous faith and character who promised to restore honesty and dignity to the white house. and he did and it was a reason that the american people turned to him relatively one term governor of georgia, and he beat gerald ford who succeeded richard nixon in the white house after nixon's resignation, and he did that. he did restore our confident in the presidency now he did remarkable things. he -- the peace accord between egypt and israel, the deregulation of america's airlines, and telecom and railroads and other things that have been high bound for years. and he did play a remarkable role in reestablishing an emphasis on human rights. his talk about the distance in the soviet union and about the right of all people to live in
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freedom, helped bring about the end of the cold war and fall of the soviet empire by giving moral authority to america's efforts which were taken up by his successor ronldz reagan as well so a lot of -- good things, obviously, the economy was not good during his time presided over double digits interest rates. double digit unemployment, double digit, you know, interest rates, and as a result we got ronald reagan because the economy was so bad. and then after leaving office he lived a life of service and compassion. for the next, you know, 50 some odd years. >> karl thank you so much for joining us tonight. great to have you on this story tonight. thank you very much. >> you bet. you bet god bless the carters. >> coming up on "the big weekend show," details on a capitol hill battle that could jeopardize president-elect trump's day one plans for america.
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♪ ♪ >> this is a fox news alert former president jimmy carter as died at the age of 100 fox's told the former president is expected to lie in stated a capitol rotunda at the national washington national cathedral. joining us now by phone is fox news senior congressional correspondent chad. >> we're thinking that the former president will lie in state in the capitol rotunda they lie there 12 presidents have laid in state the last was president george h.w. bush richard nixon did not some of his family members did not think that, some people thought they might not be respectful to the former president and same with
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harry truman he did not lie in state either. but pretty much most modern presidents they lie in state. and what they usually do is this is a big ceremony where you have usually a horse-drawn carriage bringing in the casket, they lie in state there's usually a lot of dignitaries foreign leaders who come to celebrate the life of that president. i was certainly there when president reagan died in 2004. and you had, you know, leaders who were very emblem of that and gorbachev come and expect a similar demonstration this time of president carter. i would say there might be a complicated situation because january 6th is when they're supposed to meet in a joint session of congress in the house chamber to certify the electoral college. and they have deemed this to be a national security event. and if you're dealing with that, and now they have to wrestle
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with are they going to allow the public to come into the building -- you know to give their respects that's usually what they do or delay that by a day or two or does that look a little bit different. we don't know but this will happen some time probably just after the first of the year. >> president elect trump's day one plans for america might be -- ♪ ♪ president-elect trump's day one plans for america might be in swrep did i if a hogs speakership battle delays his certification mike johnson faces tough road house. house democrats say they're united against him at least one gop congressman has said he will not vote for johnson. >> they think they're somehow going to get a more conservative speaker, they're kidding themselves. we can't get anything done unless we have a speaker. >> there will be no democrats available to save him or the extreme maga republicans from themselves.
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>> i'll vote for somebody else -- >> i'll keep my options open we have to make sure we get the best person for the job. >> i'm losing confidence each day johnson has to start finally showing that he's going to do what he says. and not just continue to try to make deals with hakim jeffries. >> all this will do is delay us and delay the certification of president trump's election it is going to delay the start of his -- of his first hundred days in office which is the most important. >> fox news correspondent fox news correspondent mattfin is live in west palm beach florida tonight with the latest. hi, matt. reporter: hi sarah this friday january 3rd when the congress reconvened it has the constitutional obligation to select the next speaker of the house. the current speaker republican mike johnson needs a majority 218 yes votes. as chad always says it is about the math. however, indiana republican congresswoman victoria sparks say she's not sure who she'll
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vote for kentucky congressman thoams massi will not and scott perry could challenge johnson. now you may recall back in 2023, the house took several days to vote on a new speaker. in what's considered a worse case scenario, if the house does not have a speaker on january 6th, it would not be able to certify november's election that donald trump overwhelmingly won. today president-elect trump took to true social so slam the previous speaker of the house kevin mccarthy for raising the debt ceiling writing, the extense of the debt ceiling by a previous speaker of the house a good man and friend of mine from this past september of the biden administration to june of the trump administration, will go down as one of the dumbest political decisions made in years. there was no reason to do it, nothing was gained and we got nothing for it. a major reason why, that speakership was lost. now, california democratic congressman ro khanna is worried about that speakership vote today he told fox news he
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believes november election will be certified. >> we're going to certify the election i plan to show up to the inauguration it is not about president trump but honoring american people and we've got to get past this thing that everything has to be partisan you know when i put for forwarda proposal of common sense i had people on my side say why are you doing that let the republicans fight. let them destroy each other fighting that's the wrong approach we're americans first we have to be solution oriented american people just elected donald trump. >> now, two legal experfect published op-ed suggesting how democrats would be not able to certify trump that's a theory that's been floated around. >> thanks so much guy what do you make of this? we were talking about this before the show. he can only lose one vote, i mean, mike johnson this is going to be his between a rock and a
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hard place and so is the president if he can't get the speaker back. >> the math is 220 to 2015 a narrow majority at least on paper but with some of these absences with some of these vacancies three of them. that gets your number down to 217 so it is 217 to 215 there's no margin for error whatsoever so people are making noises about keeping their options open. what option are we talking about in is there any viable option other than speaker johnsonsome and if there's going to be a long protracted issue not only could there be a complication as we just heard involving the january 6th certification, there could be a real threat to president-elect and president trump's agenda once he takes office that is something that he's going to be i think very adamant about he wants this drama behind him by the time he takes the oath of office. >> absolutely because he wants day one to start getting work done and he can't get work done on day one if they don't get
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this taken care of. you were talking about cory mills we were joking around about that. but he is -- he is the other name. >> of someone that's not all in. mike from new york is saying let's get this over with what guy is saying but a lot of the hesitation comes from the bill. from that spending bill which included a hundred billion dollars in defense aid. the disaster preparedness aid, which didn't necessarily need to be in a bill that was intend just to keep the government open. and that got president trump, incoming president trump pissed off. but we need a speaker guy is right we need a speaker. sara: kicked it down the road now what happened come january if we can't get mike johnson back? lisa: it is a tough time you're talking about mid-march within the first hundred days of president trump's presidency he wants to do so that does give in democrats trying to renegotiate that -- at that time because look, we have majorities in the house and the senate but they're not large. and they're not filibuster proof
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and the senate as well. that's going to give democrats some leverage and create some complications. i will say i've worked on capitol hill, when john boehner was there also with paul ryan there's grievances against the speaker. but what we saw with kevin mccarthy fought for his life with 15 rounds before getting the gavel in 2015 there were policy demands capping discretionary spending motion to vacate easier to remove the speaker. i've not heard those specific demands with speaker johnson here -- i think there are legitimate concerns with him particularly the way that he handled the cr, and that being forth coming with his fellow republicans. you know, i had congressman some congressman joked that i didn't know i was getting a raise over -- that's not good you want open communication and transparency but we're about to find out. sara: if you were a betting person what do you think guy? guy: there's no alternative that makes really any sense i think a
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big difference between that drawn out mess that we saw with kevin mccarthy this time that was during the biden administration right so we have divided government a democratic president this time around the president will be incoming president will be donald trump. and he will not be some shrinking violet on the sidelines he will be a somewhat functional house of representatives at least not only controlled by his party up and running by time he wants to get some of the bills into the ether. sara: should come out and speak -- dr. siegel: should go down to march mar-a-lago or get invite there had. lisa: even republican he is a trifecta in 2017 they failed to repeal obamacare that was with a large margin of the house we're talking small margins so it is interesting now to this. with just 22 days until president trump runs to the white house mexico is taking steps to prepare for
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deportations that allows mexican migrants to alert relatives and nearest consulate if they're detained by u.s. immigrant agents and heartbreaking scenes and unfold at the border you're looking at two migrant kids right there who have been abandoned they're only five and nine years old. both from el salvador during the biden administration, we have seen babies being thrown over the border wall. sarah, obviously i've got to start with you on this. you've spent so much time at the border, what have you seen? sara: it is enormously frustrating for me because children every single day i would see it and i would talk to them and ran into children that were being brought across the rio grand by a smuggler with only a little number in their pocket, and saying that they're rying to reach a mother or a father. but i have to tell you this lisa one of the biggest issues i have with this is are a lot of parents that are paying for smugglers or families or people that we dongt know we don't know if they're the appropriate guardians if the children are being abused but that the noir
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charged with crimes. if you or i let a criminal take our child across three countries and then -- expect that child to not be harmed, i mean we would probably be talked to by authorities. we might be arrested. but that doesn't happen. they under biden administration they were hand delivering these children to people that they didn't even know were their appropriate guardians so they weren't charging the families that were paying for these children to come across the border with smugglers. so to me, i mean, that's a crime against humanity and, obviously, stop under president trump this is sthig that tom homan made a priority i just spoke with him the other day. said it is going to be one of the top priorities to not only locate the children that have been lost in our country over 350,000. but to ensure those children are no longer delivered to criminals. dr. siegel: i think all of us came from immigrants at some point but we came here legally, and we are supposed to have borders. this is a public health crisis as well because diseases are
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spreading around the country as a result. i love the tough talk coming from tom homan and president trump and i believe they mean every word of it. people that are here illegally across poorest borders should remain in mexico should be returned. >> guy: less time developing apps for this sort of of thing for emergency apps more time securing the border. because they have not been let's say a consistent partner as they need to be and that might change starting next month. >> president will pay for that issue. lisa: don't go anywhere our extended edition of the big weekend show continues at the top of the hour. stay with us. ♪ ♪ if you're living with dry amd, you may be at risk for developing geographic atrophy, or ga. ga can be unpredictable—and progress
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