you're living in a time that will never be repeated again. we've never had a president like donald trump, and he's desperately needed. the last four years have been destructive, actually deadly. they've been painful. and they're going to be replaced with a new breath of patriotism, a new opportunity. and we the people did this. we set out with the old. and by that we meant the old and the demented and in with the new. and by that we meant a forceful, motivated, energetic president who has america's best interests always in front of mind. it's going to be a fantastic new year, and i'll see you next time on life, liberty and levin. >> this is a fox news alert. former president jimmy carter

has died at the age of 100. hello, everyone. i'm lisa boothe, along with guy benson, sarah carter and doctor marc siegel. and welcome to a special two hour extended edition of the big weekend show. carter, the longest lived american president, devoted much of his post-presidency to helping others. carter and his late wife, rosalynn, founded the carter center in 1982 to advance human rights. he traveled extensively to conduct peace negotiations, observe elections, and advance disease prevention. fox news anchor bret baier takes us a look back on the life and legacy of jimmy carter, the 39th president. >> i, jimmy carter, do solemnly swear. >> after the political trauma of watergate, jimmy carter's squeaky clean baptist background appealed to many americans as if to demonstrate there was a new way of doing things in washington. he began his presidency on a frigid january day in 1977, walking instead of riding the length of pennsylvania avenue from the

capitol to the white house. the first president ever to do this. born in plains, georgia in 1924 to peanut farming parents, carter attended the naval academy, earning the rank of lieutenant in 1946, he married rosalynn smith and returned to plains in 1953 to run the family farming business. it was there that carter developed an interest in politics. he was elected state senator in 1962 and governor of georgia in 1970. >> i am a candidate for president. >> when he announced plans to run for president in 1974, carter was largely an unknown, but he managed to win his party's nomination and edge out incumbent president gerald ford by just 2% of the popular vote, one of the closest margins in recent history. president carter's greatest triumph came in 1978, when he brokered marathon diplomatic talks between israel's menachem begin and anwar sadat of egypt. the

resulting camp david accords ended years of fighting between the two countries. >> we've got to stop crying and start sweating, stop talking and start walking. stop cursing and start praying. >> the late 70s were a time of oil shortages, high unemployment and double digit inflation. carter worked diligently to solve these problems, but the economy slipped into a recession. then, an event that would dominate the remainder of carter's presidency, iranian militants captured and held 52 american embassy employees hostage in tehran. unable to negotiate their release, carter ordered a rescue mission which ended in disaster. eight american servicemen died when their helicopters collided in the iranian desert. >> americans in iran were mistreated. >> in 1980, voters rejected carter's bid for a second term.

and to add insult to injury, on the day he left office, the american hostages in tehran were released to the new reagan administration. carter returned to georgia and through his nonprofit carter center, remained active in efforts to promote peace around the world. his efforts were successful, and he garnered more respect after he left office than while he was in it. despite countless controversial statements in recent years, including calls for the u.s. to legitimize the terror group hamas, which is openly committed to the destruction of israel, he helped convince haitian military dictator raoul cedras to relinquish control of the island nation to elected leader jean-bertrand aristide. he monitored elections in nicaragua and helped end a standoff over inspection of nuclear facilities between the u.s. and north korea. carter was often seen with hammer in hand, building homes for the poor. as part of his continuing support for the habitat for humanity project, he wrote

countless books, including one book of poetry and a memoir. in may 2002, carter took his first, but not last, trip to cuba, the first american president to visit in more than 40 years. he called for the u.s. to end its trade embargo while challenging fidel castro to institute democratic reforms. later that year, the former president won the nobel peace prize for his decades of untiring effort to find peaceful solutions to international conflicts. during a trip to the middle east in the summer of 2009, an alleged assassination plot by an al qaeda linked group was uncovered. though the president's aides said they had no knowledge of the plot against him. in the summer of 2010, carter traveled to north korea, successfully securing the release of an american citizen who had been sentenced to eight years of hard labor after allegedly entering the country illegally. upon his return, carter advocated the need for a comprehensive peace

treaty with the isolated country, arguing pyongyang was ready to talk and that the u.s. should come to the table. carter didn't hesitate to criticize the only other living president to be awarded the nobel peace prize, denouncing president obama for carrying out widespread drone strikes and warrantless wiretapping. he also said the obama administration waited too long to respond to the rising threat of isis. just months later, carter announced he had melanoma that had spread to his liver and brain. tackling the diagnosis with a measure of faith and fortitude through his cancer treatment, the former president remained active, continuing his charitable and religious activities. >> i don't know what the results will be, but i'm ready for whatever comes. >> months later, he was declared cancer free. he continued to hammer away at his charitable work with habitat for humanity all the way into his 90s. >> i feel like we always get more out of it than we than we put into it. although we work

sometimes very hard and overwork on occasion. >> and in one of his last major public appearances, made a show of bipartisanship, joining four other living presidents at the funeral service of george h.w. bush in 2018. second chances james earl carter thrived on them. >> i've had a wonderful life. i've had thousands of friends and i've had an exciting and adventurous and gratifying existence. >> and over time, americans developed a renewed appreciation for a man who resoundingly lost a reelection bid. this gentleman farmer from plains, georgia, who rose to become the 39th president of the united states. in washington, bret baier, fox news. >> now we're awaiting remarks from president joe biden will go live when we have those. but first, leaders from around the world are reacting to the death of president carter, including a written statement from president biden and president

elect donald trump. lucas tomlinson has more on their condolences. live from saint croix on the u.s. virgin islands. well, good evening, lisa. >> we are awaiting that statement from president biden here in saint croix. he should be speaking in the next few minutes. but in the meantime, we do have that paper statement issued from the white house. i'll read earlier from president biden. it says in part, quote, today, america and the world lost an extraordinary leader, statesman and humanitarian over six decades. we had the honor of calling jimmy carter a dear friend. but what's extraordinary about jimmy carter, though, is that millions of people throughout america and the world who never met him thought of him as a dear friend as well. with his compassion and moral clarity, he worked to eradicate disease, forge peace, advance civil rights and human rights, promote free and fair elections, housing the homeless, and always advocate for the least among us. he saved. he lifted and changed the lives of people all across

the globe. he was a man of great character and courage, hope and optimism. we will always cherish seeing him in roseland together. the love shared between jimmy and rosalynn carter is the definition of partnership, and their humble leadership is the definition of patriotism. and just in the last few hours, we also have from president elect donald trump, as you just showed there. if we can just bring that back, lisa, it says, quote, from president elect donald trump. i just heard about the news about the passing of president jimmy carter. those of us who have been fortunate to have served as president understand this is a very exclusive club, and only we can relate to the enormous responsibility of leading the greatest nation in history. the challenges jimmy faced as president came at a pivotal time for our country, and he did everything in his power to improve the lives of all americans. for that, we all owe him a debt of gratitude. melania and i are thinking warmly of the carter family and their loved ones during this difficult time. we urge everyone to keep them in their hearts and prayers. it's notable, lisa, that president carter is the first president

of united states to graduate from the u.s. naval academy, after serving aboard a number of surface ships, including the uss mississippi, a battleship, he transferred to the submarine forces. he was a protege of admiral hyman rickover, the father of the nuclear navy. he had slated then-lieutenant jimmy carter for promotion, but in 1953, when carter was a lieutenant, he thought he was destined for a career of naval service. his wife, rosalynn, loved the navy, didn't want him to leave. but when jimmy carter's father died, when earl carter died in 1953, jimmy carter made a difficult but noble and honorable decision that was to go back to plains, georgia and take over the family business. the peanut business, of course, that helped launch a political career that took him to the heights. as president elect donald trump said to a very exclusive club. it's also notable. president joe biden was the first to endorse jimmy carter, one of the first. he was a 35 year old senator in 1980, when he warned him that ted kennedy was going to try to primary him. so certainly one

of the reasons here on vacation in saint croix, president biden could have just issued that statement. he's on his way to give some remarks tonight. lisa. >> thank you, lucas. appreciate it. joining us now by phone is the executive editor and anchor of special report, bret baier. hi, bret. you know, jimmy carter leaves behind a complicated legacy. he's known to be a good man, as we just heard. a humanitarian loved god, loved his wife. but his presidency is marred by foreign policy and economic failures. how should we remember jimmy carter? well. >> good evening. i think his most memorable moments for post-presidency happened in all that he did to serve and in his life, his service. so maybe remembrance of service. obviously, his post-presidency has a different tinge to look at. and his the habitat for humanity. he built 4000 homes

on four different continents. he wrote 32 different books and was a prolific author. obviously went from peanut farmer, but also a baptist preacher who continued doing sunday school with his church down in georgia late into his his 90s. obviously, he's the oldest u.s. president and dying at at 100. his his wife, rosalynn, dying at 96, in 2023. so his post-presidency, i think, is where a lot of people are going to remember jimmy carter, because you're you're right. his his presidency was marred by not only high inflation, but 14 months of hostages being held in iran that were released the day he left office. >> bret, it's guy benson. i want to talk about the earlier part of his life, which spanned a century, which is really incredible. the american story

of jimmy carter is exceptional. and you look at his service in the navy, which lucas tomlinson just mentioned. you look at the love affair with his wife that lasted decades. they were married in 1946, and they were married until she passed just last year. i mean, before he became president, this was an outstanding american life, was it not? >> it was. and, you know, it was the quintessential politician, small town who identified who the country could identify with. he went from a peanut farmer in plains, georgia, to become become georgia's governor. and in that way make a footprint there. that caught the eye of the democratic party overall, to the point where he was a contender against gerald ford. and he kind of came out of nowhere early on. but in the end, was the guy that, because

of all his past being a u.s. navy veteran, being wearing and talking about his christian faith openly was a very attractive thing. at that moment when gerald ford was was running. >> bret. doctor siegel, great, amazing package. the only thing you didn't mention in that package in the post-presidency was his fight against guinea worm, where they had 3.5 million cases in 1986 and 2022, was down to 13 cases because of his work and the work of the center and of course, his fight against melanoma, which you did mention, convinced the world that it was okay to take immunotherapy for melanoma. what do you have to say about these things? >> well, yeah, i mean, listen, doc, you nailed some of those those things and they are part of his his past, the blueprint that makes up jimmy carter. and it's some of his successes. a lot of times politically, they talk about, you know, in the

history books, a lot of his failures and some of the challenges that he obviously faced in, in reelection. but but he did do a number of different things. and those are two big ones. when it came to health. >> bret baier, thank you for your time. we appreciate it. now let's bring in georgia congressman buddy carter. first, we're also okay. just we'll start off saying no relationship congressman to the late president. we've talked a little bit about the national legacy of jimmy carter. but you both hail from the state of georgia. he was a state senator first, then governor of georgia. how will the state of georgia remember the late president? >> well, i think they'll remember him very fondly. we're very proud of jimmy carter and the work that he did along with his wife, rosalynn. and we're very proud, particularly of his post-presidency. the carter center has done such an outstanding job. and, you know, while he did have some, some, some victories, if you will,

while he was in office, the camp david accords, infectious diseases, as you just pointed out, all of those were good. you know, his presidency overall was not the best. but we in georgia are very, very proud of him, particularly because of his stance on faith. you know, he brought faith to the forefront. and, and faith is very important to us in georgia, particularly in south georgia. and i he may be remembered more for his faith than than for his politics. >> hello, congressman. it's so nice to have you on here. you know, one of the issues that i want to talk about with president carter was what he had to deal with globally. i mean, many of the same issues. and chad pilgrim, our colleague, brought this up earlier, many of the same issues that he dealt with as president. we're dealing with now, whether that is iran, whether it's the panama canal, a lot of the same global issues. and i know that, you know, we can have our differences. democrats, republicans. but what were the lessons learned from jimmy carter that president elect trump can take from at this

point in time? >> well, i think president trump understands. and in fact, in his message, he alluded to the fact that, you know, it's a difficult job and these are difficult decisions. i remember in his book, keeping faith, jimmy carter said that every decision he ever made was a difficult decision. all the easy decisions had been made below him. if it rose to that level, it was a difficult decision and i could feel just, you know, how difficult it was for him when he was serving in that position. but, you know, again, his faith, i think, is what carried him through and helped him to make a lot of these great decisions. >> congressman buddy carter, thank you. we appreciate it. we're also following another fox news alert. a team of u.s. investigators is assisting the probe into the plane crash that killed at least 179 people in south korea. so what went wrong? fox report anchor and licensed pilot jon scott joins us to discuss that next.

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plane veered off the runway and collided with a concrete fence. joining us now by phone is fox report anchor jon scott, who is also a certified pilot. jon, thanks for your time here tonight. when you look at that footage and you're starting to read more about this terrible accident, i think often people hear a phrase like, oh, it skidded off the runway and they don't expect a death toll like the one that we've seen. what sticks out to you about this case and this incident? >> this is it's a combination of terrible bad luck, i think, and perhaps some bad resource management in the cockpit. and i hate to blame the pilots. and it's going to be up to the investigating authorities to finally decide what exactly went wrong. >> but a couple of things i spoke to. i've flown the boeing 737 800 simulator, so i know something about that plane. and i've spoken to a friend who has thousands of hours in it. he says even if you lose your

engines and your hydraulic gear, you can pull three levers in the cockpit and the gear will drop down automatically under the weight of gravity. so the force of gravity. so they should have had landing gear. i don't understand why they didn't. it's a mystery to me. the other tragic thing is that the localizer antenna at the end of the runway was built on what looks like a reinforced concrete wall that's maybe 4 or 6ft high. i don't know why they have such a robust structure. they could have made it out of wood. they could have put poles all the way to the ground. but that hitting that concrete wall is what tore the plane apart and created the fireball. >> hi, john, this is sarah carter. i'm curious what the next steps will be. i mean, as far as the investigators and what role will boeing play in that investigation? what will they be asked of? >> i'm sure boeing will be

involved in the investigation, but it's really up to the investigating authorities in south korea to decide who they want, you know, to bring in. i'm sure the u.s. government, you know, the ntsb will offer its help, and it might they might accept that. but boeing also will offer its assistance. but whether they will accept that, that's totally up to the south korean government. >> john, i want to ask you, actually, doctor, sorry, i just have to i have to quickly jump in here with a fox news alert. >> president joe biden has now come to the podium in the u.s. virgin islands, reflecting on the death of president carter. let's listen. >> today, america and the world, in my view, lost a remarkable leader. he was a statesman, a humanitarian. and jill and i lost a dear friend. i've been hanging out with jimmy carter for over 50 years. it dawned on me, and i had countless conversations with him over those years, and i

always would be proud to say that he used to kid me about it, that i was the first national figure to endorse him in 1976, when he ran for president. it was an overwhelming reason for it. his character. what i find extraordinary about jimmy carter, though, is that millions of people all around the world, all over the world, feel they lost a friend as well, even though they never met him. and that's because jimmy carter lived a life measured not by words, but by his deeds. just look at his life. his life's work. he worked to eradicate disease. not not just at home, but around the world. he forged peace, advanced civil rights, human rights, promoted free and fair elections around the world. he built housing and homelessness for the homeless with his own hands. and his compassion and moral clarity. clarity lift people up and change lives and save lives all

over the globe. jimmy carter was just as courageous in his battle against cancer as he was and everything in his life. cancer was a common bond between our two families as of many other families. and our son beau died when he died. jimmy and rosalynn were there to help us heal. jimmy knew the ravages of the disease too well. he lost his father, his brother, his sisters to this terrible disease. so when jimmy was diagnosed, we did our best to comfort him. we met with him down in plains. we met with him and we talked and shared our beliefs that as a nation, we have the talent. we have the talent and the resources to one day end cancer as we know it if we make the investments. he believed that like i do. i'll always cherish having seen jimmy and rosalynn carter together. theirs was a love affair for the ages. i will miss them both dearly. do take some solace in that. our kids

are saying it. that they're united once again. we're going to remain forever in our hearts, but they're together again. the entire carter family. on behalf of the world, the whole nation, we send our whole heartfelt sympathies and gratitude, our gratitude for sharing president carter with us for so many years. you know, jimmy carter stands as a model of what it means to live a life of meaning and purpose, a life of principle, of faith and humility. he his life dedicated to others. you know, he was like my dad. he thought that he'd say, joey, a job is about a lot more than a paycheck. it's about dignity. your dignity. by being able to look your kid in the eye and say, honey, everything's going to be okay. he believed, as i do. and many of you do, that. that's absolutely possible. it's within our grasp to do that. it's not that hard. and his life. and his life. he served the nation in the navy. he led

the state of georgia. he became president and a beloved statesman all over the world. but to know his core, you need to know he never stopped being a sunday school teacher at that baptist church in plains, georgia. today's world. some look at jimmy carter and see a man of a bygone era with honesty and character and faith and humility. it mattered, but i don't believe it's a bygone era. i see a man not only of our times, but for all times, someone who embodied the most fundamental human values we can never let slip away. although sometimes it seems like it is. we may never see his like again. we'd all do well to try and be a little more like jimmy carter. you know my mom, you've heard me say this before. he used to say, bravery lives in every heart. and someday it will be summoned. every time it was summoned. he stepped up every time. politically, personally and morally. and you

know everything. the one thing i admired most about him, he thought and believed that he really did believe this. and i do as well. everybody deserves an even shot. no guarantees. just a shot. everybody deserves a shot. and you know, i he gave an awful lot of people a chance. so as i said, i was an admirer. i consider myself a friend. kept in touch with him and. i was going to tell you a story his son told me. but that would be inappropriate. maybe he'll tell you. but. about he. i think he's happy. i think he's happy with rosalynn. >> so, president, as you think about your post-presidency, is there anything about jimmy carter's time after leaving office that inspires you for

the years ahead? >> yeah. never give up hope. never give up hope. i mean, from the bottom of my heart. so much negativism out there. i know you're tired of hearing me say it over the last four years, but, folks, there's nothing beyond our capacity. nothing beyond our capacity. if we do it together. i mean it. i mean it. and he believed it. >> sir, what is your fondest memory of jimmy carter? >> i have a number of them, i guess. maybe my fondest memory of jimmy carter was. when he. he grabbed me by the arm and said. i need you to help me with my campaign. and i said, i've only been around a couple of years, mr. governor. he said, no, make a difference. i said, i'm not sure it will. he said, no, it will. when i endorsed him for president, i told him why i was endorsing him and that it was not only

his policies, but his character, his decency, the honor he communicates to everyone. and but he was also very, very he and rosalynn were very kind to jill and me when we lost our son, beau. they were there for us. and i don't know, it's a. i think that what jimmy carter is an example of is just simple decency. simple decency. and i think that's what the rest of the world looks to america for. >> so what is the purpose of the family? >> have you spoken to? >> i think i've spoken to all the children. there may be some i just got off the phone with. i think there were, you know, how many on the phone, but i think and i've spoken to some of the friends of the family that are helping with the services, and my team is

working with his family and others to see to it that he is remembered appropriately here in the united states and around the world. there's a process going, going through that will take a little time to set up this. i announced earlier today we were going to do a major service in washington, dc on behalf of him, but that's a that's a formal procedure that's underway. so i'm sure we'll be talking a lot to the family between now and my main contact is chip. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> president trump to take from president carter decency. >> decency, decency. everybody deserves a shot. everybody. can you imagine jimmy carter walking by someone who needed something and just keep walking? can you imagine jimmy

carter referring to someone by the way they look or the way they talk? i can't, i can't. you know, i think at the end of the deal here is that one of the reasons why we look to buy the rest of the world for the bulk of our, our nationhood. we've laid out what our values are. we've said we believe it's not just in the declaration. we hold these truths to be self-evident, but there's a feeling the rest of the world looks to us, looks to us. and he was worth looking to. thank you very much. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. that was the president of the united states reacting to the death of one of his predecessors, the 39th president of the united states, jimmy carter, dead today at the age of 100. biden, speaking movingly, at times very

personally, about jimmy carter. he called him a statesman and a humanitarian. a friend of his for over 50 years, biden said he referred to the 39th president as a man of character and courage. he made reference to that very long marriage between president carter and his late wife, rosalynn, roughly 77 years of marriage. and he said that jimmy carter led a life of meaning and purpose, faith and humility, and the word that he came to over and over again was decency in describing the man. jimmy carter, who we lost and were mourning here today. and to that point, lisa boothe. i want to bring it out to the table. you told us a story, a personal story that someone in your family had an interaction with jimmy carter that i think plays into what we just heard from joe biden. >> yeah, i was talking to my dad before the show like i normally do, and he was telling me a story about how he was flying from d.c. to atlanta, and jimmy carter was on his flight, and jimmy carter was known to fly commercial with his wife. and so my dad said, what he did is he went all the way through the flight and

shook hands with everyone on the flight that wanted to shake his hand. also took selfies with everyone who wanted to take a picture with him. and my dad said that he thought to himself, you know, this man is a class act. what a classy thing to do. and so, you know, of course, we want to remember that legacy of him being a good and decent man and wanting to be with the people. >> that's such a great story. and it also shows the complexity of politics, right? i mean, we could be after each other one minute and then the next minute something tragic like this happens, and it gives us a moment to reflect on our nation and the people that have served this country. like president carter. it allows us to put our differences aside and find that kind of common ground. i think, where we all connect and that's such a beautiful story. and, you know, guy, when you talk about their marriage, i mean, 77 years. i mean, that's that's just unbelievable to me. like you'd never see that anymore. so this really is a moment to remember all the good things about president carter and that. and i think, doctor siegel, what makes our nation so great? >> you know, i've talked to the

carter center a lot. i've done a lot of work with them. and the first question i ever asked them is, what role does president carter play here? and they said, he's our friend. he's involved in everything. and guy that is not a photo op. when he's banging those nails into those houses. that's what he did. he was hands on just like on that plane all the time. >> and he did that into his 90s. yeah, right. he was out building homes for poor people around the world into his 90s. that is just amazing. and, you know, sarah, i can't help but think about the faith aspect of this as well. jimmy carter, a devout baptist, a sunday school teacher. i think it's inextricably linked to that decency that we keep hearing about. >> oh, absolutely. i mean, and i think that that faith is part of the american people. it's like you said, you know, in his 90s, he's building homes. it gives us hope for all of us. you know, like we're going to get older, get older with grace and do your best no matter what. >> joining us now by phone is former white house deputy chief of staff under president george

w bush and fox news contributor karl rove. karl, you go back to when he was president and you were starting out in those days. tell me what you think president carter's legacy is. >> well, first of all, i met him when i was in my early 20s, and i happened to be walking through the old washington national airport in 1975. and he he was walking through the airport as well, carrying his suit in a suit bag over his shoulder. and i introduced myself as a young staffer at the republican national committee. and he chit chatted for a few moments and talked about his bid for the presidency. he was going to run for president, and he gave me his business card as governor of georgia and asked me to keep an open mind with, you know, sort of a laugh in his voice. and i wish i'd kept that business card, but you we've today talked so much about his decency, and this was a reason why he was elected president. the country was bitterly divided. our prestige had been

hurt in the aftermath of watergate. people did not believe in the presidency. and here was a man who of enormous faith and character, who promised to restore honesty and dignity to the white house. and he did. and it was a reason that the american people turned to him a relatively obscure one term governor of georgia. and he beat gerald ford, who succeeded richard nixon in the white house. after nixon's resignation. and he did that. he did restore our confidence in the presidency. now, he did some remarkable things. the peace accord between egypt and israel, the deregulation of america's airlines and telecom and railroads and other things that have been hidebound for years. and he and he did play a remarkable role in reestablishing an emphasis on human rights. his talk about the dissidents in the soviet union, and about the right of all people to live in freedom,

helped bring about the end of the cold war and the fall of the soviet empire by giving him moral authority to america's efforts, which were taken up by his successor, ronald reagan as well. so a lot of lot of good things. obviously, the economy was not good during his time, presided over double digit interest rates and double digit unemployment and double digit, you know, interest rates and as a result, you know, we got ronald reagan in large measure because the economy was so bad. and then after leaving office, he lived a life of service and compassion for the next, you know, 50 some odd years. >> carl, thank you so much for joining us tonight. great to have you on this story tonight. thank you very much. >> you bet. you bet. thank you. god bless the carters. >> god bless the carters. coming up on the big weekend show details on a capitol hill battle that could jeopardize president elect trump's day one plans for america.

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bundles. >> this is a fox news alert. former president jimmy carter has died at the age of 100. fox has told the former president is expected to lie in state at the capitol rotunda before a funeral at the national at the washington national cathedral. joining us now by phone is fox news senior congressional correspondent chad pergram. >> chad, well, we're thinking that the former president will lie in state in the capitol rotunda around january 6th, january 7th. usually, presidents who passed on, they lie in state in the capitol rotunda. 12 presidents have lain in state in the capitol rotunda. the last was president george h.w. bush. that was in december of 2018. there are some exceptions to that rule. richard nixon did not lie in state when he passed away in 1994. some of his family members did not think that he would be. some people thought that people might come and attend. this would not be respectful, respectful to the former president. and the same

with harry truman. he did not lie in state, you know, either, but pretty much most modern presidents, they lie in state. and what they usually do is this is a big ceremony where you have usually a horse drawn carriage bringing in the casket. they lie in state. there's usually a lot of dignitaries, foreign leaders who come to celebrate the life of that president. i mean, i was certainly there when president reagan died in 2004. and you had, you know, leaders who were very emblematic of that period. you know, margaret thatcher, who was the prime minister of the united kingdom, mikhail gorbachev, general secretary of the soviet union. come. and so we would expect some sort of a similar demonstration, this time with president carter. i will say that there might be a little bit of a complicated situation, because january 6th is when they are supposed to meet in a joint session of congress in the house chamber to certify the electoral college. and they have deemed this to be a national security event. and if you're dealing with that, and

now they have to wrestle with, are they going to allow the public to come into the building, you know, to give their respects? that's usually what they do. or do they delay that by a day or two or does that look a little bit different? we just don't know. but this will happen sometime, probably just after the first of the year. >> after president elect trump's day one plans for america might be in jeopardy if a house speakership battle delays his certification. current house speaker mike johnson faces a tough road ahead. house democrats say they're united against him, and at least one gop congressman has said he will not vote for johnson if they think they're somehow going to get a more conservative speaker. >> they're kidding themselves. we can't get anything done unless we have a speaker. >> there will be no democrats available to save him or the extreme maga republicans from themselves. >> i'll vote for somebody else. >> i'm going to keep my options open. >> we just got to make sure that we get the best person for

the job. >> i'm losing confidence with each day. johnson has to do his best to start finally showing that he's going to do what he says and not just continue to try and make deals with hakeem jeffries. all this is going to do is delay us. >> it's going to delay the certification of president trump's election. it's going to delay the start of his of his first 100 days in office, which is the most important. >> fox news correspondent. fox news correspondent matt finn is live in west palm beach, florida tonight with the latest. hi, matt. >> hi, sarah. this friday, january 3rd, when the republican controlled congress reconvenes, it has the constitutional obligation to select its next speaker of the house. the current speaker, republican mike johnson, needs a majority, 218 yes votes. as chad pergram always says, it's about the math. however, indiana republican congresswoman victoria spartz says she's not sure who she'll vote for. kentucky congressman thomas massie says he will not vote for johnson, and there is speculation pa representative scott perry could challenge

johnson. now, you may recall back in 2023, the house took several days to vote on a new speaker in what's considered a worst case scenario if the house does not have a speaker on january 6th, it would not be able to certify november's election that donald trump overwhelmingly won. today, president elect trump took to truth social to slam the previous speaker of the house, kevin mccarthy, for raising the debt ceiling, writing the extension of the debt ceiling by a previous speaker of the house. >> a good man and a friend of mine from this past september of the biden administration to june of the trump administration, will go down as one of the dumbest political decisions made in years. there was no reason to do it. nothing was gained, and we got nothing for it. a major reason why that speakership was lost. now, california democratic congressman ro khanna says he's not worried about this speakership vote. today. he told fox news he believes november's election will be certified. >> we're going to certify the election. >> i plan to show up to the

inauguration. it's not about president trump. it's about honoring the american people. and we've got to get past this thing that everything has to be partizan. you know, when i put forward a proposal of common sense on h1-b reform, i had people on my side saying, why are you doing that, ro? let the republicans fight, let them destroy each other. fighting. that's the wrong approach. we're americans first. we've got to be solution oriented. the american people just elected donald trump. now, two legal experts published an op ed suggesting how democrats would be able not to certify president elect donald trump on january 6th. it's just a theory that has been floated around. back to you guys. >> thanks so much, matt. guy, what do you take what do you make of this? i mean, we were talking about this before the show. he can only lose one vote. i mean, mike johnson, this is going to be he's between a rock and a hard place, and so is the president. if he can't get the speaker back. >> yeah. so the math is chad

pergram talks about is 220 to 215, right? a very narrow majority, at least on paper, but with some of these absences. right. with some of these vacancies, three of them, that gets your number down to 217. so it's 217 to 215. there's no margin for error whatsoever. so i understand some people making noises about keeping their options open. what option are we talking about. is there any viable option other than speaker johnson. and if there's going to be a long, protracted issue here, not only could there be a complication, as we just heard, involving the january 6th certification, there could be a real threat to president elect and then president trump's agenda once he takes office. and that is something that he is going to be, i think, very adamant about. he wants this drama behind him by the time he takes the oath of office. absolutely. >> because he wants day one to start getting work done, and he can't get work done on day one if they don't get this taken care of. you were talking about cori mills. we were joking around about that. here's the other name he is, but he is the

other name of someone that's not all in. >> mike lawler from new york now is saying, let's get this over with. what guy is saying? but a lot of the hesitation comes from the bill, from that spending bill, which included $100 billion in defense aid, to disaster preparedness aid, which didn't necessarily need to be in a bill that was intended just to keep the government open. and that got president trump incoming. president trump off. but we need a speaker. guy is right. we need a speaker. >> kicked it down the road. right, lisa? i mean, they kicked the cr down the road now. now what happens come january if we can't get mike johnson back? >> well, and it's a tough time because you're talking about mid-march. that's going to be within the first hundred days of president trump's presidency. and he's got big things he wants to do. so that does give democrats some leverage in trying to renegotiate that at that time. because, look, we have majorities in the house and the senate, but they're not large and they're not filibuster proof in the senate as well. so that's going to create it's going to give democrats some leverage and create some

complications. i will say i've worked on capitol hill when john boehner was there, and also for a little bit when paul ryan, there's always going to be grievances against the speaker. but what we saw when kevin mccarthy fought for his life with those 15 rounds before getting the speaker's gavel in 2023, they're very specific policy demands that were taking place, capping discretionary spending and a motion to vacate, making it easier to remove the speaker. i've not heard those specific demands with speaker johnson here. i think there are legitimate concerns with him, particularly the way that he handled the cr and sort of not being forthcoming with his fellow republicans. you know, i had congressman, some congressman joked that i didn't even know i was getting a raise originally. right. so that's communication and transparency, but, you know, we're about to find out. >> so if you're a betting person guy what do you think you have to or out. >> i think you bet on johnson because there is no alternative that really makes any sense. and i think a big difference between sort of that drawn out mess that we saw with kevin mccarthy and this time was that was during the biden

administration. right. so we had divided government, a democratic president this time around, the president will be or incoming president will be donald trump, and he will not be some shrinking violet on the sidelines. right. he's going to want, as we've been talking about, a at least somewhat functional house of representatives, at least nominally controlled by his party up and running. by the time he wants to start getting some of these bills into the ether. >> so maybe trump, president trump should come out and speak then maybe at this point. yeah, well, that's the other thing. johnson should go down to mar-a-lago or get invited there. >> well, and there's also this. and real quick, i'll say even republicans had a trifecta in 2017. they failed initially to repeal obamacare. and that was with a large margin in the house. and we're talking about small margins here. so it's going to be interesting. well, now to this, with just 22 days left until president elect trump returns to the white house, mexico is taking steps to prepare for his mass deportations by launching an app that allows mexican migrants to alert their relatives and the nearest consulate if they are detained by u.s. immigration agents.

meanwhile, we're continuing to see more heartbreaking scenes unfold at the border. you're looking at two migrant kids right there who have been abandoned. they're only five and nine years old, both from el salvador. during the biden administration. we've even seen babies being thrown over the border wall. sarah, obviously, i've got to start with you on this. you've spent so much time at the border. what have you seen? >> i mean, this is enormously frustrating for me because these children, we see them every single day and i would see it personally. i would talk to them. there were so many times i ran into children that were being brought across the rio grande, you know, by a smuggler with only a little number in their pocket and saying that they're trying to reach a mother or a father. but i got to tell you this, lisa, one of the biggest issues i have with this are a lot of parents that are paying for these smugglers or families or people that we don't even know. we don't even know if they're the appropriate guardians, if these children are being abused, but they're not being charged with crimes. if you and i let a criminal take our child across three countries, you

know, and then expect that child to not be harmed, i mean, we would probably be talked to by authorities. we might be arrested, but that doesn't happen under the biden administration. they were hand delivering these children to people that they didn't even know where their appropriate guardians. so and they weren't even charging the families that were paying for these children to come across the border with smugglers. so to me, i mean, that's a crime against humanity. it will obviously stop under president trump. this is something that tom homan has made a priority. i just spoke with him the other day. it said it's going to be one of the top priorities to not only locate the children that have been lost in our country over 350,000, but to ensure that those children are no longer delivered to criminals, i think all of us came from immigrants at some point, but we came here legally, and we are supposed to have borders. >> this is a public health crisis as well, because diseases are spreading around the country as a result. i love the tough talk coming from tom homan and president trump, and

i believe they mean every word of it. people that are here illegally that crossed porous borders should not be here. there should be remain in mexico, should be returned. >> guy very, very quick. >> maybe the mexican government can spend less time developing apps for this sort of thing, for like emergency apps for their citizens and more time securing the border because they have not been, let's say, a consistent partner as they need to be. and that might change starting next month. yeah. >> all right. president sheinbaum will pay for that issue. >> all right. well, don't go anywhere. or extended two hour edition of the big weekend show continues at the top of the hour. stay with us. >> if you have heart failure or chronic kidney disease, pozega

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leaving the white house, he received the nobel peace prize in 2002 for his advocacy on human rights and democracy. fox news anchor bret baier takes a look back at the very long life and legacy of jimmy carter. >> hi, jimmy carter, do solemnly swear after the political trauma of watergate, jimmy carter's squeaky clean baptist background appealed to many americans as if to demonstrate there was a new way of doing things in washington. >> he began his presidency on a frigid january day in 1977, walking instead of riding the length of pennsylvania avenue from the capitol to the white house. the first president ever to do this. born in plains, georgia in 1924 to peanut farming parents, carter attended the naval academy, earning the rank of lieutenant in 1946, he married rosalynn smith and returned to plains in 1953 to run the family farming business. it was there that carter developed an interest in

politics. he was elected state senator in 1962 and governor of georgia in 1970. i am a candidate for president when he announced plans to run for president in 1974. carter was largely an unknown, but he managed to win his party's nomination and edge out incumbent president gerald ford by just 2% of the popular vote, one of the closest margins in recent history. president carter's greatest triumph came in 1978, when he brokered marathon diplomatic talks between israel's menachem begin and anwar sadat of egypt. the resulting camp david accords ended years of fighting between the two countries. >> we've got to stop crying and start sweating, stop talking and start walking. stop cursing and start praying. >> the late 70s were a time of oil shortages, high unemployment and double digit inflation. carter worked

diligently to solve these problems, but the economy slipped into a recession, then an event that would dominate the remainder of carter's presidency. iranian militants captured and held 52 american embassy employees hostage in tehran. unable to negotiate their release, carter ordered a rescue mission which ended in disaster. eight american servicemen died when their helicopters collided in the iranian desert. >> americans in iran were mistreated. >> in 1980, voters rejected carter's bid for a second term. and to add insult to injury, on the day he left office, the american hostages in tehran were released to the new reagan administration. carter returned to georgia and through his nonprofit carter center, remained active in efforts to promote peace around the world. his efforts were successful, and he garnered more respect after he left office than while he was in it. despite countless controversial statements in

recent years, including calls for the u.s. to legitimize the terror group hamas, which is openly committed to the destruction of israel, he helped convince haitian military dictator raoul cedras to relinquish control of the island nation to elected leader jean-bertrand aristide. he monitored elections in nicaragua and helped end a standoff over inspection of nuclear facilities between the u.s. and north korea. carter was often seen with hammer in hand, building homes for the poor as part of his continuing support for the habitat for humanity project, he wrote countless books, including one book of poetry and a memoir. in may 2002, carter took his first, but not last, trip to cuba, the first american president to visit in more than 40 years. he called for the u.s. to end its trade embargo while challenging fidel castro to institute democratic reforms. later that year, the former president won the nobel peace prize for his decades of

untiring effort to find peaceful solutions to international conflicts. during a trip to the middle east in the summer of 2009, an alleged assassination plot by an al qaeda linked group was uncovered. though the president's aides said they had no knowledge of the plot against him. in the summer of 2010, carter traveled to north korea, successfully securing the release of an american citizen who had been sentenced to eight years of hard labor after allegedly entering the country illegally. upon his return, carter advocated the need for a comprehensive peace treaty with the isolated country, arguing pyongyang was ready to talk and that the u.s. should come to the table. carter didn't hesitate to criticize the only other living president to be awarded the nobel peace prize, denouncing president obama for carrying out widespread drone strikes and warrantless wiretapping. he also said the obama administration waited too long to respond to the rising threat

of isis. just months later, carter announced he had melanoma that had spread to his liver and brain, tackling the diagnosis with a measure of faith and fortitude. through his cancer treatment, the former president remained active, continuing his charitable and religious activities. >> i don't know what the results will be, but i'm ready for whatever comes. >> months later, he was declared cancer free. he continued to hammer away at his charitable work with habitat for humanity all the way into his 90s. >> i feel like we always get more out of it than we than we put into it. although we work sometimes very hard and overwork on occasion. >> and in one of his last major public appearances, made a show of bipartisanship, joining four other living presidents at the funeral service of george h.w. bush in 2018. second chances james earl carter thrived on them. >> i've had a wonderful life. i've had thousands of friends

and i've had an exciting and adventurous and gratifying existence. >> and over time, americans developed a renewed appreciation for a man who resoundingly lost a reelection bid. this gentleman farmer from plains, georgia, who rose to become the 39th president of the united states. in washington, bret baier, fox news. >> bret, thank you for that. leaders around the country and across the globe are reacting to the death of president carter, including president biden and president elect donald trump. lucas tomlinson has more on this. he's live in saint croix in the u.s. virgin islands. good evening. >> well, good evening, guy. president biden interrupted his vacation not only to issue a statement about jimmy carter's dying passing, but he also made a statement within the last hour. this is what he said. >> never give up hope. never give up hope. i mean it from the bottom of my heart. so much

negativism out there. i know you're tired of hearing me say it over the last four years, but, folks, there's nothing beyond our capacity, nothing beyond our capacity. if we do it together. i mean it. i mean it. and he believed it. >> and president elect donald trump issuing a statement earlier saying, quote, i just heard the news about the passing of president jimmy carter. those of us who have been fortunate to have served as president understand this is a very exclusive club, and only we can relate to the enormous responsibility of leading the greatest nation in history. the challenges jimmy faced as president come at a pivotal time for our country, and he did everything in his power to improve the lives of all americans. for that, we all owe him a debt of gratitude. melania and i are thinking warmly of the carter family and their loved ones during this difficult time. we urge everyone to keep them in their hearts and prayers. and it's notable that president biden, of course, is less than 20

years younger than jimmy carter and spoke earlier about he was the first senator to endorse jimmy carter when he ran for president in 1976, and later as a 35 year old senator in 1978. he was the first to warn jimmy carter that that ted kennedy was going to try to primary carter. and it's notable guys have history perhaps could have turned out differently. of course, the iranian hostage siege in the u.s. embassy in tehran plagued the carter administration for 444 days. it did not end until president ronald reagan took office, and president carter had ordered a rescue operation to rescue those 52 americans in tehran. very different situation, by the way, in london, when the iranian embassy was seized in april of 1980, just weeks after that failed u.s. rescue, iranian arab group terrorist group seized the iranian embassy and margaret thatcher, newly elected prime minister. she ordered the sas, the

special air service, in there, to put an end to that siege. after six days, it was successful. it boosted her iron lady credentials. so you have to think how history could have been different. but one thing for sure, president biden, president carter, who many see both as has failed one term presidents, it was the economy that failed him. but president. president biden certainly felt a moral obligation not just to issue this statement, but to interrupt his vacation here in saint croix and offer some words to the american public. >> guys. all right, lucas, thank you very much. and biden was mentioning that there was a friendship there for 50 years that he enjoyed with former president jimmy carter. and with us now is our colleague here at fox news, justice correspondent david spunt. and david, good evening to you. it's my understanding that you knew former president carter on a personal level. tell us about that and how you believe carter will be remembered. >> hi, guy. it's good to be with you all. i did know president carter, and i knew him because i was a reporter. my first job was in columbus,

georgia, almost 20 years ago, and plains, georgia, where he lived his entire life. even after he left, the white house, was in that market and used to watch our television stations. so he would call in and ask football scores on friday nights for local high schools and give football scores that he had been to, games and whatnot. i got to know him almost 20 years ago, interviewed him several times. just a gentleman, someone that, you know, after he became president, could have gone anywhere he wanted in the world, but decided to go back to plains, georgia. he and rosalynn carter, as you heard in bret baer's piece, married in the mid 1940s. jimmy carter was the only president to go and graduate from the naval academy, and he taught sunday school. and that's how i got to know him by attending his sunday school services at maranatha baptist church, which eventually turned into an interview. but he taught sunday school for decades and would meet people and smile and talk

to them about bible verses and got to know them that way. and to me, that was very notable and humbling. >> hey. hi, david. this is sara carter. i have a question and it's regarding, you know, president trump's statement that he just made and he said, you know, this is a very exclusive club. and, you know, it's a very difficult these are a lot of challenges that are met with being the president and running one of the most, if not the most powerful country in the world. talk a little bit about maybe how president carter is as far as an example. you know, post-presidency, a lot of people look at, you know, his presidency and very critical of it, but they look at his post-presidency and say, you know, look at how much he did afterwards that made such a difference. and, and also that type of relationship that we see between the presidents. >> certainly notable. sarah. and great question. i mean, this is someone that after he became president, he decided to go back to plains, georgia. and

it's not unusual for a president to go back to their home state or wherever they may want to go after they leave, potentially the most stressful job in the world. however, jimmy carter continued to help eradicate guinea worm, a disease that plagued the continent of africa for years. he built homes for habitat for humanity. he traveled the world. he helped release. he went to north korea to secure the release of a hostage. i mean, this is someone that worked into his 80s, into his 90s. i believe the last time i saw him was at his 91st birthday party in plains, georgia. in person. i kept in touch via a mutual friend afterward, but he looked great. and this is right after he announced that he had brain cancer. and he beat that. and he hung on. and he hung out to be 100 years old. and the relationship that he had with mrs. carter, rosalynn carter was, was truly incredible. i told a story earlier, and she was born in 1927. he was born in 1924. his mother, lillian

carter, was a nurse and i believe helped either deliver or care for rosalynn carter's mother. so jimmy carter first met rosalynn carter in 1927 when she was an infant. and, you know, they obviously got married many years later, but was with her until she took her last breath last year in 2020 3rd november 2023. so quite a story. but i think the point is, is that he he kept in touch with other presidents and kept in touch. but it wasn't about keeping in touch with other presidents. it was about being back to his roots and being in plains and helping people with habitat for humanity and the carter center, and traveling and always working. the man worked nonstop. >> david spunt, thank you so much for those reflections and your personal experience with our 39th president, jimmy carter, who passed away today at the age of 100. and with us now to further discuss jimmy carter and his legacy specifically, is fox news senior political analyst brit hume. brit. it's great to see

you as you look back on this extraordinary life that spanned a century. what comes to mind? >> well, it was he had a long and consequential life, to be sure. >> what i remember most, because i was a reporter in washington at the time, was that he had quite a quite a difficult presidency, and it was not, politically speaking, a successful presidency. >> he encountered inflation on a scale that was so great that the new federal reserve chairman, whom he appointed, paul volcker, found it necessary to raise interest rates to levels rarely, if ever seen before. the economy slid into recession. people were totally disenchanted with the economy and with the president, who they felt was responsible for it. that was that fed very much into his loss in 1980, as did the situation with the hostages in iran who had been taken, as has been mentioned, for, you know, they were ultimately taken for four, 444 days. try as he might, carter

could not get them out. and as has been noted, they were released the day that ronald reagan took office. so he left the presidency. he was beaten badly by ronald reagan in 1980. but there was a major and very consequential achievement for which he deserves enormous credit, in my view. and that was the camp david accords between israel and egypt. i remember they were hammered out at camp david under his under his watchful eye. and anwar sadat of egypt said afterwards, when people were talking about they'd be called the camp david accords. he said, they know they should be called the jimmy carter agreement because he had worked so hard to get it. and of course, that was a real breakthrough, that that agreement between egypt and israel, which stands to this day a major achievement, indeed. >> you know, brit lisa boothe here, we heard president biden speak earlier and he talked about how he was jimmy carter's first presidential endorsement in 1976. and what's so interesting is there are so many parallels between the men, their presidencies and also

their electoral losses. >> well, there are indeed. and i think, you know, at this moment, i you know, i know a lot of democrats and, and liberals think that president biden had an enormously consequential presidency. he did not achieve, in my view, anything on the scale of the camp david accords. so he does not have anything like that to point to. but he was president. biden was was affected so strongly, as was president carter, by the economy and particularly by the plague of inflation, it can be argued, i think, pretty successfully, that president biden, by the spending that he and his party engaged in in the early stages of his presidency, those those things were responsible for the inflation. i'm not sure. while carter failed to solve it, i'm not sure he was quite as responsible for what happened during his term in terms of the economy, as president biden certainly was. i might add a personal note, if you don't mind. there was a stage in president carter's term where he got a kind of a reputation

for being mean. you know, he was pretty tough when he resisted the challenge from president, from senator kennedy. and people were going around saying that down deep that despite his religious faith, which was real and despite his commitments and character, that he was had a mean streak. well, i met him once when he and gerald ford, who, of course, the man he had beaten for the presidency, were they were out on the lecture circuit doing what were called debates. they were really discussions. i moderated one and introduced him to my daughter. he, carter, could not have been more charming. yeah. remarkable. took her both her hands in his. he was. he was incomparably friendly. >> all right, brit hume, we really appreciate your time this evening and those thoughts and some really good perspective on a night where a lot of americans are thinking about the life. and, of course, now the legacy of america's 39th president of the united states, jimmy carter, who passed away today at the age of 100. brit, again, thank you so

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>> one democrat is slamming her own party after they passed over aoc. for 74 year old gerry connolly to represent them on the house oversight committee. take a listen. >> we are really stuck in our old ways of doing things, which is you get there by seniority. and so if you've been there longer, then you get the post. and i don't think that we fully sit there and say who may be best equipped for this moment. >> speaking of seniority, biden reportedly said he thinks he would have beat trump and regrets dropping out of the 2024 race. i don't know, lisa. i know you have a point to make on this. we are. we're all kind of shocked when he said that, but what what do you think? do you think he would have won? no. yes. >> no. i mean, if you look at the real clear politics average before joe biden dropped out, you know, he was doing worse against donald trump than than trump, against kamala harris. i mean, there was an argument to be made that maybe joe biden would have done better in

states like pennsylvania or michigan, that kamala harris was disconnected from those. but, you know, regarding the comments about today's democrat party, i mean, aoc and this more progressive wing of the party, they have consumed the establishment democrat party. i mean, today's democrat party. you look at some of the crazy things like green new deal or, you know, men and women's sports and mutilating children's bodies in the name of, you know, transgenderism. and so, you know, those policy ideas are the ones that have taken over. and, you know, democrats didn't have a messaging problem or anything like that that they've been saying this election cycle. this was a rejection of their ideas and what they stand for, right? >> this had nothing to do with age. this was rejection of ideas. and they want a younger crowd. but we have the squad. and the squad was what america was voting against, just like lisa said. green new deal woke ideology. all of this was turning off the majority of americans. guy. i mean, do you think this is i mean, it's a non-sequitur. i mean, it wasn't about age so much as it was

about policy. >> well, i think nancy pelosi obviously believed that aoc in that perch would be a liability for the party because she was working the phones behind the scenes to boost connolly. i don't think it was like a generational solidarity thing. it was we want to win and making aoc and some of the hard left people even bigger faces of the party, i think pelosi decided probably wasn't a great idea, given what just happened in the election. and i just want to say one thing about biden. these reports, at least that he is, and they're plausible for sure that he's out there saying, oh, i would have won this thing. i regret dropping out. he was forced out, obviously, right. this was not something he wanted to do. i do think it's fantasy. i mean, that debate on june 27th, after the first 20 minutes, the election was over. it was done. he had stayed in the race. the democrats understood that, which is why they went with a really flawed and unimpressive alternative in kamala harris. but joe biden would not have gotten better over the course of the campaign. he would have probably gotten worse. and i think that the margins would have been more damaging for the democrats if he had stayed in.

>> absolutely. doctor siegel, what about the health issues? i mean, even democrats have come forward and have said, look, he just wasn't healthy enough. he was not healthy enough to run again, and he wasn't healthy enough to be president. i don't think he should have even been in office. >> that's the elephant in the room. and i agree with everything lisa and guy just said. by the way, lisa's right that the democratic party has gone off the rails and awoke direction. they don't have their way. they don't have their leadership. but the real elephant in the room here is and every american is thinking this, what were you doing for four years? doctor mark siegel was saying in 2020, he doesn't look right. he's not walking right. he ain't speaking right. so we're left with the word obfuscation. four years in office when we don't know what was going on behind the scenes. american people don't like being lied to. they don't like things being hidden from them. so they're not going to vote for that group. absolutely. >> the american people were being told, don't believe your lying eyes. and we didn't buy it. cheap fakes. exactly. cheap fakes. exactly. jimmy carter, the 39th president of the united states, has passed away at the age of 100. hundreds of

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capitol rotunda for eight days. joining us now by phone is iowa senator chuck grassley. good evening. senator. how you doing? great. how are you, chuck? very good. tell me what you're remembrance is of jimmy carter. >> well, i think that adjectives like compassionate, simple decency, humanitarian, his. >> i remember i think he restored decency to the white house after nixon's resignation. i think he'll be remembered most for camp david accords. maybe most people won't think of that. but that's what i think of because it brought peace that still exists between israel and egypt. it was extended to jordan, and i think it opened the door for the abraham accords under trump so that for other arab nations,

even though it's not a peace agreement, relative peace and business arrangements with israel, i think we have a safer middle east coming up because of what he started then. i don't think he gets credit for those things, but i sure give him credit for it. and while he was president of the united states, i didn't have personal relationships with him except formal events at the white house. but after he was president, he asked me to go to nicaragua with him to monitor the elections at that particular time. i forget the year that, but i couldn't go because of things going on in the washington, d.c. at that time that i couldn't go with him. but he called me personally and asked me to do it. and then in 2008, he called me and asked me to participate

in a meeting. of diverse baptist groups gathering in atlanta. and i did there go there and speak. and i had personal conversations with him and his wife, and he's a very decent person. >> senator grassley, sara carter here. it's so nice to be able to talk to you about this because you have that relationship with had that relationship with president jimmy carter, one of his legacies will be camp david, as you mentioned. but what are the lessons learned from his presidency? because many of the same issues we're facing today are very similar global issues that he faced during his presidency. >> well, i think most of what he lost the presidency on was things that he can't be completely blamed for. the arab oil embargo was driving up the price of gasoline. we had the

iranian american hostages being held. we had the russian invasion of afghanistan, and then we had runaway inflation that was instigated by decisions of the of the federal reserve board and the inflation that, that the fed was fighting was really caused by nixon four years before, when he did a stupid couple stupid policies that led to the hyperinflation that carter got blamed for. >> senator grassley, lisa boothe here. so you were first elected to the house in 1975, just before carter took office as president. what was it like to serve in congress during that period of time? >> well, as a freshman congressman and i was there for six years, four of them while he was president. i think that we had some things that we

wouldn't normally assign to a democrat of accomplishment, a great deal of deregulation. i mean, you think of it, trump's going to do some deregulation, but for the big things of doing deregulation of the airlines and of the trucking industry and the railroad industry, that's directly the incident instituted by the carter, by president carter and his cabinet at that particular time. and we still are benefiting from that as consumers today. but when you hear about carter being the worst president before biden, you wouldn't think any of those good things would come. but i think he ought to be given credit for by consumers today for some of the decisions he made on deregulation. senator grassley, great to have you with us tonight. we really appreciate it, sir. and thank you for all your great service

all these years in the senate. thank you for joining us. god bless you. goodbye. god bless you. let's now bring in former white house speechwriter bill mcgurn, also on the editorial board of the wall street journal. bill, you wrote an amazing column in 2015 for the journal called missing jimmy carter. talk to me about that. >> well, i'm not so sure i want to be held to words i wrote ten years ago. >> but look, i was never a fan of jimmy carter. i was firmly in the reagan camp. >> i think reagan delivered what he had to. i remember the gas lines. i remember the inflation. i look back at my parents putting six kids through college with inflation raging. it was crazy. and i remember, you know, i remember the overseas disasters, the hostages in iran. but as senator grassley says, looking at jimmy's record, jimmy carter's record, there's little more heft there. he's often compared to joe biden. but

jimmy carter did deregulate the trucking and airline industries. i believe little in finance as well. that was a big step for america. also, when he realized there were mistakes, the inflation he appointed 1979 paul volcker to the fed. and the tight money is, you know, when you're running for reelection, you really don't want tight money. and i think that was his decision that put the country ahead of him. at the same time, after the soviets invaded afghanistan. and jimmy carter said he was shocked by the move, he earned the mujahideen. so he started kind of the breakdown of the soviet empire that we know for later. so he has some real achievements and some real moves that put the country ahead of his own interests. >> bill, it's guy benson. you look at some of the numbers associated with jimmy carter. 100 years of life, 77 years of

marriage, 444 days of that crisis that really consumed the latter part of his presidency, and i think really weighed on him, as history has shown. and a lot of the writing about that time, when you look back and you're starting to assess not just the politician, but the man himself as well, on a day like this, what what do you think of what comes to mind? >> well, i think he's a well-meaning individual, took his faith seriously, had a lot of initiatives. i tend not to agree with them. you know, specifically his foreign policy initiatives like the middle east. they seem overly hostile to israel. so i'm not sure i would agree with that. i'm saying he had a difficult time as president a lot because of his policies, but it did start to reverse some at the very end. he didn't get credit for it, but he started to reverse them. he had a very rich life, you know, 77 years of marriage is nothing to sneeze at. i'm

married like 33 years and people think that's a big achievement. and i'm not even halfway there to what jimmy carter had. so and he also went back to live where he grew up, you know, like cincinnatus returning to the plow. so there's it's a very complicated man with a complicated story. and he did a lot in his, in his life, and he saw a lot. >> bill. bill, i really appreciate you're joining us, by the way, that column you wrote ten years ago, you did talk about all his mistakes and how he admitted them, and also signing the strategic arms limitation treaty. huge, huge thing. and you wrote about that too. really great to have you on. thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you doctor. >> you bet. officials may say crime is down, but the nypd is reporting a record number of injuries this year. why? some officers are blaming migrants for the violence. you don't want to miss this. don't go away. >> the fox nation holiday sale is here. there's only one thing

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patrol. but think of all the known gotaways, the people that got into this country that just disappeared into the fabric of america and then came into new york city by the tens of thousands, the roosevelt hotel, i can't even tell you how many times i went down to new york to cover stories there. and i would be talking to people, security just outside the hotel, and they would say, you can't even imagine what's going on in there. we've got, you know, serious issues of rape. we have burglaries. we have people that are entrapping others into their hotel rooms. and that's the reason why they kept reporters out. that's the reason why they kept people out of the hotels. and also they it wasn't just new york city. i would love to see the stats across the country in areas where we saw large groups of migrants just being left in cities, especially sanctuary cities, where the police had to face it on their own. they didn't have the help of the state. >> does this give trump political cover when he does move for deportations? because it's a lot harder to say no

criminals should be staying here in the united states. >> yes, he was elected. he was elected to do this. and the fact, i mean, it is hard to get, i think an american's blood boiling faster than watching someone who has no right to be in this country assaulting a police officer. right. and it wasn't one thing here or a cherry picked incident there. it was over and over again. and, sarah, i think you're exactly right. it wasn't a coincidence that so much of it happened here. it happened because of the policies. you had illegal immigrants saying there is a sanctuary policy in new york. i'm going to go there and the word gets around. you can you can commit other crimes and they'll put you right back on the street. of course they're going to show up. >> well, this is why president trump is so adamant with president claudia sheinbaum of mexico and with others and saying, look, you're going to take people back. we are repatriating them back to your nations, and you're going to take them back, or we are going to hold you accountable. and that could be financially, economically. and i mean, and not only that, there's a health issue.

>> well, well, this is part of the public health crisis, because the other part of this story is that they're homeless. i've gone with lawrence jones and interviewed them outside of the roosevelt hotel that sarah is talking about, and they're homeless and they don't know where food's coming from. they don't have medication, they're angry, they're sleepless. and so then they become violent. they're violent when they're crossing the border, and then they're violent in new york and other cities against cops. and by the way, you've seen them buzzing around on scooters, too. they're hitting people with these scooters that they get. and as guy says, it's really, really something that gets your blood boiling, that they're attacking our police officers who are trying to keep things safe here and are overworked also. >> absolutely. and when regular citizens are under threat as well, like we saw in the subway, it is infuriating. and it is absolutely wrong. >> we have a shelter system here, by the way, which we can't. it's overflowing because of this. >> absolutely. doctor siegel, now to this. the white house is finally responding to the photos that were released showing biden and his son, hunter, during a 2013 trip to

beijing. here they are with president xi. they also met with hunter's chinese business partners. these photos prove the president was not telling the truth about this all the time. i mean, this is so infuriating. >> i did not know he was on the board of that company. i've never discussed my business or their business. my sons or daughters. i never discussed a single thing with my son about anything having to do with ukraine. i have never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings. i have never discussed with my son or my brother or anyone else, anything having to do with their businesses, period. >> that's straight from biden's mouth. the white house is now saying, quote, this trip, which occurred over a decade ago, is old news. house republicans already wasted years and millions of taxpayer dollars, proving that the president was not in business with his son. it's past time to call it a day. house oversight committee chairman james comer is now warning the deep state.

>> how many people in the federal government knew that joe biden was lying? the cia knew the irs knew the fbi knew they need to be held accountable. the national archives not only have they sat on those pictures, and they were only released because of a lawsuit, and they're going to have to explain themselves as to why they obstructed our investigation. i want to work with kash patel. i want to work with with all the new trump cabinet secretaries, that where we can hold the deep state actors accountable because the american people have lost confidence in the government. >> you know, comer is absolutely right when it comes to this, lisa. one of the big issues is the national security aspect of this. we have a president sitting in office that was conducting deals with president xi and adversary of the united states with his son, you know, making money off of this. and by the way, i mean, maybe you can answer this question, but he actually pardoned people within the chinese government, a man in

particular, connected to the to the family of president xi, who had more than 10,000 photos of children that he had that were sexually abused children on his laptop, on his laptop. he pardoned this person. so i think there is a lot to be said here, and there should be a full fledged investigation 100%. >> look, we know that he sold america out, but what exactly did he sell besides access? right? what foreign policy decisions were based on the money that went to line the biden family pockets? and we're talking about countries like romania, china, kazakhstan, ukraine, russia, enemy nations like russia and china as well. and it infuriates me that trump, president trump, faced an impeachment over having conversations expressing these concerns with ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky. it also infuriates me that trump faced investigations with accusations that he was in bed with russia when the biden family has been in bed with russia, well, reporters couldn't report on it. >> the new york post was having a difficult time. miranda devine, right?

>> yeah. listen, i can't get past the ukraine point and the point that that trump ended up getting attacked for this. but burisma holdings, you know, when he was vice president, when biden was vice president, he was assigned by obama to keep track of ukraine. right. and hunter biden is getting paid $50,000 to work with burisma holdings, a gas company with no background in that whatsoever, who believes in the united states that he was incurring influence there? biden directly? nobody. >> well over 50,000 a month. >> right. >> and the guy a month. >> right. and, i mean, we even had people that had come and testified. i mean, tony bobulinski was a whistleblower on the family. >> it is so insulting to see this statement from the white house where they lie and deny, lie and deny. and then here's the photo like, well, it's old news. i mean, it's just the gall of that drives me crazy. we played the montage of some of the lies from president biden. i would just add two more on the presidential debate stage in 2020, in front of tens of millions, he said. the laptop wasn't real. it was from

russia. and he said his son made no money from china. false and false. >> not only false and false, we have 51 plus nine, you know, intelligence officers that signed off saying that that was russian intelligence. and, you know, president trump is coming into office. and i think the most important thing that he can do right now is to remove the security clearances of those that knowingly lied about this issue, whether that was hunter biden's laptop and others within the bureaucracy, whether that's the fbi or cia or even the nsa that absolutely knew they were lying. well, you know, americans rightfully distrust their government. >> i mean, the government has given us ample reason to not trust the government between covid, these lies about joe biden's health, the biden family business dealings, lies about that. so what president trump needs to do, or we hope he do, is just mass transparency, as you're pointing out. just be honest. put it all out there. let us all know. >> so great. great point lisa. such a great point. don't go anywhere. a special 2025 edition of the big four is

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you're up. >> my big story for 2025 is the road to making america healthy again. now, ignore when president trump has that mcdonald's hamburger. for the rest of us, he's saying, and for himself, too. i hope we have to change our food, because food is medicine, and if you eat the wrong food, you end up with problems like obesity, which is over 45% of american adults right now. and that leads to the diseases i treat in the office high blood pressure, diabetes. we have to stop this now. we've got to get the chemicals out of the food. we have to eat food that's healthier. that's what rfk jr is trying to do if he gets approved. i'm all in on this. okay, guy. >> all right, so my story is the incoming republican congress. and we've talked a lot about the drama in the house and the speakership fight and all of that. and that's going to be extremely important. we've addressed that over the course of the long show tonight. i also want to focus briefly on the u.s. senate, because republicans will have this 5347 majority.

and for the first time in many years, the leader of the party in the u.s. senate will not be mitch mcconnell anymore. it will be john thune of south dakota. so a new era in the senate for republicans. how is that going to look? how is it going to be similar or different? and i think it's really important to hit the ground running for the republicans. start nominating those judges immediately to fill vacancies. there's been a lot of damage on that front, i think, done by biden and the democrats these last four years. now the republicans can start just rubber stamping qualified, good conservative judges, and that's something that can really get going on day one. >> and i think everybody is going to have their eye on that, that's for sure. well, here's my big story of 2025. it is the ongoing crisis at the southern border. and the migrant children who have gone missing after crossing into the united states. if there's anything i can say to everyone is like, this is going to be the biggest story of the year because as tom homan, our borders are, puts out and puts forth the policy that president trump has assigned him to do. i think right alongside that with the deportations is going to be

finding these 350,000 plus children that have been lost by hhs into the fabric of our country, finding them and rescuing them. and even if it's only one child, we've got to do it. we've got to live on principle. look, that does it for us. we'll see you next weekend. remember to always dvr if you can't catch us live. happy new year. sunday night in america with trey gowdy is up next. you sure look fine. >> friday i got traveling on my mind. first you love me, and then you say it's wrong. you know i can't go on believing for long. but you know it's true. it's. you only want me when i get over you. first you love me. then you get.