♪ ♪ >> hello, everyone. this is "outnumbered." i'm molly line with tammy bruce, fox news contributor. lisa boothe, fox news political analyst. dr. nicole saphier, fox news contributor and board-certified physician and john yoo. uc berkeley law professor and former justice thomas' law clerk. thank you all. america is mourning the loss of jimmy carter, the 39th president passed away yesterday at the age of 100. he was the nation's longest living president. a national day of mourning and state funeral are set for january 9. both president joe biden and president-elect donald trump offering moving tributes to carter. from posting in part quote "while i strongly disagreed with him philosophically and

politically, i also realized that he truly loved and respected our country and all it stands for. he worked hard to make america a better place and for that i give him my highest respect. meanwhile, biden addressed the nation from his vacation in the u.s. virgin islands. >> jimmy carter stands as a model of what it means to live a life of meaning and purpose. the life of principle faith. his life dedicated to others. >> molly: the media appeared to seat biden's remark said a bit of an opportunity to get a dig at trump and biden seemed a bit eager to oblige. >> reporter: president carter. >> decency. decency. decency. everybody deserves a shot. everybody. can you imagine jimmy carter locking by someone and they

needed something and they just keep walking? can you imagine jimmy carter referring to someone by the way they look or the way they talk? i can't. i can't. >> molly: tammy, he was given the opportunity and he took it. the grin on his face. >> tammy: it's a shame that it's embarrassing for joe biden. he had the gritted teeth thing he does. i have said before on this program and other places and we know for 50 years joe biden has been a jerk. so perhaps he should take some of his own advice with what's happened to this country. there's an opportunity has president trump i think illustrated to be generous, right? be generous. the american people have made their decision. we are all americans. we are moving forward. we will disagree politically and philosophically. it's just a remarkable and shameful thing to watch but it is classic biden. this is what we've been seeing and it's partly what the american people don't like.

you might not agree with trump's style but biden is presented as being, as he was, the unifier and the nice guy, scranton joe. he's mean and he's a bully and it's a shame and it's embarrassing and it's unfortunate. >> molly: decency through gritted teeth. john, delighted to have you with us. thank you for being here as we look back on the life of the former president. your thoughts on the way the current president reacted. >> john: happy new year, everybody. so great to be with you. actually i think hearing those statements from president biden, it's part of us wanting to think better of president carter. president cardin didn't treat president reagan that way at the end of his time in office. carter was a good man, smart man both before his presidency and after his presidency. you might disagree or agree with him. i think the american people knew he was doing his best and he had the future of the country at

heart. he, like biden, had i think a failed presidency because they were both defeated by inflation. they were both defeated by foreign policy challenges, with carter, it was the iranian revolution, the hostages, soviet union on the march although around the world. with biden, again inflation, undone by the middle east and ukraine of course in the war. both men were undone by the circumstances and hopefully will be followed by stronger, better leaders. reagan then anti-trump now. >> molly: beautiful tribute coming out. we see sometimes you take the bait i guess in the moment. >> in fairness they were undone by inflation and foreign policy but those were also decisions of their own making that created their political downfalls. it's fitting that joe biden is one of the first to endorse jimmy carter in 1976 because

they do share a lot of the same policy failures, economically as well as with foreign policy. as part of this misplaced document of embracing animation rejecting friends particularly in the middle east which led to the iran hostage crisis that went on for 444 days. if you're joe biden, your policies helped facilitate iran's involvement with the worst day for jews since the holocaust. the recent terror attacks in october, not too long ago. a lot of that was their own doing. the difference between the two men is jimmy carter will be known for having a level of decency for loving his wife for 77 years. for being, who flew commercial and took photos with people walking down the aisle, teaching sunday school at his local church after leaving political office. he will be known for having a failed president but a decent man. joe biden will be remembered for

being a failed present and in decent man. >> i was disappointed with a lot of people's responsible responses. a lot of people were saying we mourn his loss. even president trump and his post said i agree with him politically. can we take politics out and focus on human being? as lisa alluded to, he was about faith, family, and the american people. married to his wife are 77 years, taught local sunday school at his church. he brought the -- it's a huge public health issue. he brought the incident down by 99.9%. he lived with stage iv melanoma for years. this was a good human. people could focus on that. we don't have to say this is good, this is good, but. president biden did that. he said it with gritted teeth. it was upsetting to watch. it wasn't his handlers. it wasn't in a prompter. that's what he said.

he failed. he's going to continue to go out looking like a bitter old man. >> lisa: i think that's just being honest, right? >> you can be honest but it's not necessary in my opinion. when someone dies, you can say something positive about them or say nothing at all. that's what i teach my children. >> history is complicated and people are complicated. taking into account the complexity of all that and being truthful. i see your point but i see the point of just be honest. >> we can have conversations about his politics, they are excellent points and we can say negative things about them but in the moment when you're talking about someone dying it's not the time to talk about one's policies. >> molly: a man of faith, peacekeeping, humanitarian efforts. remembered for what he did post presidency. coming up, a new report claims president biden regrets dropping out of the race and thinks he could have been trump. that is next.

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♪ ♪ >> tammy: president biden reportedly expressing regret for dropping out of the 2024

presidential race. according to the report biden believes he could have beaten trump if he wasn't pushed out by his own party. lucas tomlinson is live in st. croix. that's lovely. where biden is spending the holidays. lucas. >> good afternoon, tammy. president biden's approval rating remains around 39%. it's been underwater since the hasty withdrawal from afghanistan but as you mentioned it doesn't appear to have stopped some of his aides. saying biden should not have dropped out of the race and saying the president thinks the same thing. the p says "biden and some of his aides still believe he should have stayed in the race despite the rocky debate performance and local numbers that prompted democrats to pressure him to drop out. biden and the aides have told people he could have defeated trump according to people familiar with the comments who spoke on the condition of anonymity, describing private conversations. aides say the president is being careful not to place blame on harris or her campaign." it's likely that would not have

helped his campaign, biden's reelection campaign, these newly released photos saying biden shaking ha hands and posing with chinese businessmen during a 2017 trip to beijing. biden has long denied any involvement in his sons overseas business dealings. >> i have never discussed my business or their business. i've never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings. >> i have never requested my son or brother or anyone else anything having to do with their businesses. >> many republicans haven't long claimed biden has not been triple with this matter including james comer yesterday. >> joe biden lied. he did introduce his son to all these chinese people. joe biden did meet with all these chinese people. they were wearing his family millions of dollars for

mysterious reasons. we knew it. >> white house reacting to these new photos saying "this trip which occurred over a decade ago is old news. house republicans wasted years and millions of taxpayer dollars approving the president was not in business with his son. it is past time to call it a day." hunter's lawyer responding saying there's nothing new here. ladies, gentlemen? >> tammy: thank you. great assignment you've got in st. croix. tough job. thanks, joe biden. what i find very interesting, lisa, this argument he could have won which is exclusively the statement about kamala harris. that's a statement about her. oh, he doesn't want to make a statement about her. that's the thing that does. it's interesting in that they believe that tesco and i believe

he would have been better. that's how bad she was. and yet he doesn't -- it doesn't mean he would have won. they are still putting the trump victory in this context as an accident because of the decision they made. what's your take on an? >> he won the popular votes of the american people were on his side. if executives listening, if lucas needs a break, i will gladly fly there and cover for him in st. croix. the american people, i have been saying this. this was a rejection of joe biden, kamala harris, the left but it was a choice for donald trump. the most important defining dates in the election cycle were june 27th and july 13th. june 27th was when donald trump ended joe biden square on the debate stage at cnn where it was so bad that even the media had to admit they were lying about cheap fakes, they had to admit joe biden did not have all his

faculties. july 13th, the manner in which donald trump survived the butler, pennsylvania, assassination attempt. americas needed a fighter and they saw that in donald trump. additionally it dispelled this notion that he was the threat to democracy because most people were thinking maybe the people trying to kill him are the threat to democracy. so no, i think joe biden one of loss by bigger margins. >> tammy: exposes a certain level of delusion. he asked about his remarks about merrick garland that he felt i was a big mistake. apparently he was convinced to do it. some of this article kind of gives a position that biden was actively involved in some of these decisions are was wandering around thinking about presidential theory and history and what should he do. clearly. >> john: that's my job. >> tammy: ron klain as of reportedly the one who pushed for garland but the argument was they didn't prosecute trump fast

enough and shouldn't had gone after hunter. still moves into confirmation that it was law fair they were relying upon. >> john: if you needed any proof biden was not mentally capable and should not have served a second term, it's comments like these. if he had read the nation write, read the people right, a transitional figure. he thought he was a revolutionary figure like fdr, lbj and he was intent on breaking all kinds of norms. l'affaire is the best example. how can someone think the best thing for the country would have been to prosecute your leading rival with all the powers of the federal government kind you. next the first time in american history that's ever happened. it's terrible for the country. he has opened up a cycle of retaliation that's going to undermine our politics for ye years. all those pictures we saw of him glad-handing with the chinese. congress and the u.s. attorney

should be all over that in the next of nutrition for that to me shows he's putting himself for the best interests of the country. talk about whether carter was a good president or not. carter didn't put himself before the country. it would have been better for him -- to say he would've been a better president and his mentally diminished state. >> tammy: it could be an argument that carter was perhaps the first example where aides and the left had moved into the nature of what the president would do and where they felt they were the president, molly, not the president. he handed over the panama canal, established the department of education and the department of energy. massive government expansion. leading to more spending, massive inflation. it's an argument there but here you've got, speaking of the photos of him with the chinese

associates effectively introducing them it appears, to hunter. it's one thing to say we have looked at his accounts and there was no money. but there's that power of being vice president and then president is what we have argued, i have argued, has informed that relationship. because of his position as president. now we know. >> molly: on the postmortem from its most a forlorn fantasy now. digging through this article. it's time to move beyond that and then when you see a photo like this coming out, it's a really remarkable photo. where the heck has this photo been question required wasn't this out when the house on the republicans were trying to get to the bottom of this. hunter's lawyer reacted saying that there is new here. >> which is true. >> the other side of the aisle could agree with that. we should have seen this photo long ago initiative and questions asked about it and answered about it. and there may be more questions

to come. to the extent reinvigorates what we have already known and what republicans have been alleging and looking into. >> tammy: this reminds the american people things were kept from us. even obama. keeping these photographs the national archives. this is not good for the legitimacy of the government, with the impact is, what the s presidency, when the times when hunter biden and his conne connections, president biden's mental and physical fitness. democrats are finding themselves. they're starting to point fingers. the harris campaign, the biden campaign, neither were prepared for the trump campaign. they acknowledged with the people were needing to hear.

president biden was posted via transitional president. he alluded that he would give a term and give it to the next generation. i don't know if it was narcissism or what it was. that's what happened. going to lose, they staged a coup, put in kamala harris. the democrats themselves rejected in 2019. they rejected her before republicans can. they have no one to blame but themselves. president trump ran an excellent can plane. it's with the people wanted. >> watching this play out in front of people which is usually -- also mistake. thank you, great stuff. president-elect trump's plans to overhaul the immigration situation sparking debate with republicans as his second term fast approaches, a live report on that is next. go-friends, gather!

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♪ ♪ >> tammy: president-elect trump's incoming immigration agenda is becoming more real by the day, thank goodness. and over the weekend he sided with elon musk over the largest visa category for guest workers in the usa which sparked a debate among republicans. matt finn is in west palm beach, florida, another horrible place to be right now, with the latest. >> here in west palm, president-elect trump has been holding some sensitive meetings with high-profile names, basically trying to get everyone on the same page for the first 100 days. the h1b visas, they created a little bit of discourse within the trump world with elon musk essentially leading the charge in favor of the visas, using some colorful language online, even responding to a user on x,

writing at one point "the reason i did america along with so many critical people who built basics, tesla, hundreds of other companies that made america strong is because of h1b. take a big step and blank yourself. i will go to war on this issue." vivek ramaswamy, nikki haley weyden, president-elect trump settled the matter telling "the new york post" in favor of the h1b visas. he will continue supporting h1b. highly skilled foreign workers access into the u.s., 85,000 at 200,000 plus per year. republicans and democrats say that the program is broken and should only be used to attract brilliant foreign workers. the visa should not give away every day jobs cano. >> you shouldn't have lower skilled things that could be done by american workers that kf

category in the united states. it shouldn't be for accountants or entry-level i.t. jobs. it should really be for exceptional talent. >> immigration is an all-around major topic. a judge order the biden administration to stop auctioning off large portions of president trump's southern border wall which it had been selling for pennies on the dollar and here in west palm beach top canadian cabinet members met with the trump team about our northern border. president-elect trump has been threatening a 25% tariff on canadian goods. if they don't fix what he calls a flow of illegal drugs and immigration into our country. back to you. >> tammy: thank you very much, sir. i think for us and we remember this, there's two points here. molly, first, i just mentioned in the other segment about public fights. we are in the transition.

he's really the acting president this point but to have this kind of fight in a way in the weeds is an unforced error. i don't like anybody disagrees that everything has to be revamped. all of us remember it like in 15, the stories coming out of companies, where are american workers or doing very well in their jobs, training their replacements who came here on h1b visas. these were not specialty jobs. people running the resort area there and disneyland and disney world and that was heartbreaking so there you are, you're losing your job and your training somebody who is brought in by in that instance an indian firm to take over. that's what we don't like. that's not the conversation we can have at this point. >> fascinating to watch this

relationship between elon musk and president trump. the big money, the big egos, when there would be a blow up. nursing the blowup between the maga philosophy in the elon musk philosophy. elon musk is not the owner of this view 25 philosophy. he's got this global interstellar galaxy. he wants to go to mars. i'm not surprised he's the guy saying i'm going to bring in any kind of talent that will get the rocket ship there and get a colony. it literally may be on a different planet. perhaps donald trump likes to have this voice that's out there. >> you want to have, to not sink into groupthink. you want to have challenges to points of view so you can have that conversation. usually you figure that out as you're going along. i don't know if elon musk remembers or thinks about how the american people responded to this issue and it's not that the h-1b visa idea is the mistake. it's how it's been exploited to

do things against the american people. >> president-elect trump gets the american people. i do think -- the importance of the h-1b visa program. it also does need overhaul. reading the x poster listening to ro khanna, it's very insulting to the american people, they are saying. they are saying don't give the low skilled jobs to the foreigners. the americans can do that. exceptional talent. it's not speaking -- the reality is this kind of reminds me of a little bit of affirmative action. right now company's can be incentivized to take these h1b visas because they can pay them less than they pay their american counterparts. they should not be incentivized to take a foreign applicant. what needs to happen is make it an even playing field, same pay, same everything. that will cause the americans okay, i'm going to up it?

who's the better applicant? education. what do they do? do it merit-based. it's a meritocracy. >> tammy: this is a worthy conversation to have but now it became like a food fight. some people express themselves differently than others. the american people know what the problems are and i don't think they want to feel left behind in this. it was important for president trump to speak up. i don't mind public conversations. obviously, i have them every day. isn't this a little bit of a problem? >> lisa: it's a personal issue for the different sides of the conversation. if your worker and for displaced by a foreign worker, an american worker and furor being displaced by a foreign worker, you have real concerns. if you are elon musk and h-1b visa has allowed you to stay in the united states, you think why would we not want more elon musks. the heritage foundation economists said over the past are native-born americans have

lost almost 800,000 jobs while foreign-born workers have gained over 1 million jobs. the labor market is turning into a temp agency for foreign workers in government bureaucrats. that's a concern. we've seen companies take advantage of h-1b visa applicants because they are tethered to them. it's indentured servitude. >> tammy: john, what's your take? >> john: i am a dissenting voice. i believe trump got it right. huge shortages of doctors, soldiers, first responders, nurses. we have to have a smart border policy. restore the rule of law, enforce immigration laws, build the wall up. then let in people who would you be to the country. i am biased. my parents came from south korea. i brought my 86-year-old mom with me. who can deny fox news to an 86-year-old? i brought her. but i wouldn't be here if it weren't for programs like this. i think we add to the country and that's the kind of people who should be getting these kinds of visas.

these stories of people training their replacement are terrible but i expect trump will reorganize the program. >> tammy: exactly. that's what has to be recognized. renovation, if you will, versus throwing out the baby with the bathwater. everybody, thank you. coming up, trump supporters are being compared to the trash. ( ♪ ) eggs make all our family moments better. especially when they're eggland's best. taste so fresh and amazing. ( ♪ ) deliciously superior nutrition, too. for us, it's eggs any style. as long as they're the best. eggland's best.

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>> lisa: officials in washington, d.c., are investigating a series of advertisements which target trump supporters. the ads feature a crosstown image of someone wearing a maga hat reading... the d.c. department of transportation is scrambling to get the edge down. they say this. this image was not created, funded, or authorized by the d.c. government and our teams are currently working to remove them. iif you see additional images like this, we encourage you to report them. we have seen the d.c. mayor muriel bowser concerned with the incoming administration and congress and inserting oversight over the district of columbia. take us to school, professor, about congresses constitutional authority. >> john: you want to go to berkeley? are you sure? i am moving to texas may be. come down there. this raises a really important constitutional issue. the constitution, our founders

did not want the district of columbia to be a state, didn't wanted to be a functioning democracy precisely for this reason. they didn't want people living in d.c. to pressure the federal government to try to get it should change his policies. the way they've seen it happen in london. we have a district that voted 90% for harris. it's the county of the highest vote total for harris the whole country. i think these ads are probably really popular in d.c. here's the difference between the two parties. biden and harris said they wanted to make d.c. state and give to senators and add it to the senate paired with trackable trump should do if he wants to shake things up as reconsider whether we should have home rule in d.c. or whether congress should live up to its mandate and take the city over again. i'm sure will be better run than it is now where people are probably putting up these ads and then carjacking on the side for fun. >> lisa: may be the citizens of d.c., the people who live

there, they are okay with these ads but d.c. authorities are saying we had nothing to do with it. do you believe him? >> they do have a logo. this brings us to a bigger conversation of impersonating an rep representing, the advancements of technology in ai and what are the repercussions. it's one thing to put up artwork somewhere, like graffiti and you could argue freedom of exposure and you quickly take it down but it's another thing to misrepresent that you are a government body. i would think we need to in the next four years we're going to start having to look at consequences for misrepr misrepresenting. >> lisa: that means 77 million americans are trash, right? that's what this is saying. will this dehumanization of trump supporter ever end? >> tammy: it won't but i'm glad trump now has his trash talk. i'll tell you it's remarkable. it still reveals the kind of bitter kind of craven framework

that feeds the left that no one is going to learn anything from the election because they don't feel they were mistaken. i do think there is an interesting difference when an obvious guerrilla art. i come from an activist background. this is meant to appear as though it's official and it's a statement that is like a subtle encouragement that certain kinds of people should be removed. one we've seen people be tipped over by rhetoric that is couched in a certain way or is kind of subtle, it doesn't matter. if they are going to tip over, they are going to tip over and that's the way to do it. keep it trash free. you've got to move people out of the way. they should be aggressive, criminally with this kind situation. >> lisa: these trash people come according to hich

obviously i don't agree, i voted for trump. they are about to be descending on d.c. to celebrate donald trump valuation next month for this upcoming month. they're going have to work together making sure everyone is safe and this goes smoothly. >> these ads are not very fancy. this presents the opportunity for president trump as he becomes president to counter program. he is really into that. as tammy mentioned. rolling up in the garbage truck in the orange vest. i can only imagine this offer is another opportunity to push back, defend his supporters. probably would be of more effective than ads scattered across d.c. >> i can imagine how many red hats are going to be there. >> whoever is behind these signs is not going to be happy. all right, coming up, more than a million people are expected to ring in 2025 at the iconic ball drop in times square. specialized technology and elite units, the nypd is deploying to keep everyone safe. that's next.

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>> molly: prep is well underway for tomorrow's new year's eve celebration in new york city. over a million people expected being times square to watch the leaders ball drop. the city is wrapping up security measures. we have nate foy live with more details. neat. >> hey, molly. a million people are set to come here to ring in the new year tomorrow starting at about 6:00 in the nypd and federal partners are insuring, sparing a resource, ensuring everyone has fun and no security threats emerge. doing everything they can. during large gatherings there are extra careful but the nypd commissioner says the israel-hamas or has the nypd on an even higher alert. >> at this time, there are no specific credible threat to the times square new year's eve celebration. however, we have been operating at a heightened threat

environment since october 7th and we remain vigilant. >> new york governor kathy hochul put out a statement that reads in part "as we gather in new york city to celebrate the start of a new year i've directed our state agencies to take all necessary steps to ensure that new yorkers and visitors can celebrate safely and peacefully." new york state police, national guard and the new york homeland security team will all be working together tomorrow night. one threat they haven't had to deal with before, molly, the emergence of the venezuelan gaming. federal agents raided a tda gang house in the bronx earlier this month. police say the gang is using migrant shelters to recruit new members but the nypd says it's making progress on this issue. >> some newly emergent threats, newly emergent crime patterns that we have again tried to combat very early and very deeply so that we haven't had

the entrenchment of some of the gang here in the city you've seen elsewhere across the country. this isn't a threat specific to new year's eve or times square. >> reparations for fun or also happening. take a look. confetti test drop went off without a hitch sunday morning. organizers say tomorrow night 3,000 pounds of confetti will fall here. some of it will include written messages from people who submitted them through a virtual wishing well. just moments ago, molly, they tested the ball drop. i'm going to ask my photographer paul to zoom in. with the sun it could be difficult to see him with a seven part of times square, he zooms in, you can see 2025 and then the ball doesn't look to be to illuminated now but there are 2,600 crystal triangles in there and it weighs 12,000 pounds. after tomorrow night that particular ball will be retired and they will have a new one for next year. should be fun. >> molly: thanks for keeping

us up-to-date on the sparkles and the security. millions are preparing to watch the ball drop, new survey revealing americans have some favorite new year's rituals. it found the midnight kiss, the country's top tradition followed by wearing your lucky color, keeping extra cash in your wallet, and lighting fireworks. what the heck. >> tammy: it's a ritual and tradition and it's something everyone can do. get in the bathtub and soak and relax. that's what i do. starting out through your completely relaxed and ready. to wake up rested. >> lisa: i did the new year's eve special for fox seven years ago. it was the coldest new year's eve since 1917. 10 degrees. i felt like chris farley. i had so many layers on but i didn't want to complain because i figured people were having fun. didn't want to hear us out there. one of the coolest expenses to be out there. i tried texting my parents

afterwards and i literally could not hit the right buttons because my hands were so frozen. it was amazing. >> what are you doing this year? >> i don't have plans. >> l>> tammy: get in the bathtu! >> john: i don't know when americans became so boring. all four of those things i do every day. [laughter] new jersey people should at least shoot a drone down. >> i'm new jersey person. >> lisa: i don't know if that's the best legal advice. >> i'm a jersey person and i have seen many drums over my neighborhood. i will be shooting any down this year. we don't have predictions. we cook a big dinner at home and i spent it with my family. we are going out tomorrow which is a little bit of a departure. still with my family. kiss my husband at midnight. >> happy new year to all. >> more "outnumbered" in just a moment.

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♪ ♪ >> last but not least, the diet coke button is coming back to the white house. >> everyone thinks this is very ominous. you see this? this is very ominous looking, because of the red button. >> what is a get you? >> it gets you a coke or pepsi. every time i press that, people -- >> i don't think it gets anybody a pepsi. president-elect trump's red button, which triggers a butler to bring him his favorite drink -- diet coke -- will return january 20th. get used to reside in the resolute desk, but it was removed by biden after he took office. john, you have been personally touching the diet coke button. [laughter]

>> i penned the button. i don't want to break executive privilege, but i have been to see trump with the button, and the diet coke came out. the first thing i think is will it leave a ring? the second thing i think is no one offered me a diet coke. but that's good because i want to coke zero anyway. >> did you push the button? >> kitty trump let me push the button. [laughter] >> rfk jr. is doing away with artificial sweeteners and preservatives. that might create another big twitter a battle. [laughter] >> renovation, not complete change. i guess dreams do come true. >> i would love a diet coke button. speak of button. >> ten seconds, great job. we all want buttons. thanks for joining us. happy new year. here is "america reports." >> president biden: i believe