we aren't restricting the ability of the industry to communicate on the internet. we're not preventing minors from having access but a design change to the websites and the applications. the industry is arguing a violation of first amendment of the providers of information but also the people that want to consume that information. i think it will come down to what happens at trial. >> molly: the hearts of parent and safe of the kids and mark smith, thank you for your insights. greatly appreciated. happy new year. >> happy new year. ♪ >> bryan: time for resolution. my resolution next year is to be a better cook. i need to get on that.

"the faulkner focus" is next. >> big political intrigue to close out the year. house speaker mike johnson in a tough re-election bid. president-elect trump endorsed him for house speaker but he is facing hold-outs ahead of friday's votes. i'm rich edson in for harris. massey says he is not voting for johnson. several other house republicans say they have not decided. here is a few of them. >> i'll make up my mind on friday. i will talk to mike and maybe president trump even and discuss some ideas and issues that i have. >> if speaker johnson wants to be speaker, then he needs to have a plan and commit to the plan not like what he did last year. >> i do want to speak with the speaker to see what his plans are. there are some issues that i think need to be worked out dealing with the budget issues. >> rich: madeleine rivera is in washington with this story.

>> good morning, rich. some house republicans are willing to buck president-elect trump despite saying he would have the final word whether house speaker mike johnson stays or goes. johnson says he has been on the phone the last few days with some of his critics like congressman massey, victoria spartz and roy that they share the same goals as they head into 2025 with the presidency, senate and house in hand. >> we have to stay united. if we do we can bring about this america first agenda quickly and deliver for the american people so they see results early in the year. we have a lot on our plate. i'm confident we'll be able to get it done. >> he says republicans are looking to get started on a number of things right away. budget reconciliation and x the ending trump's tax cut and the border. they can't get anything done without a speaker. despite trump's endorsement the quagmire johnson is facing hasn't changed. he needs the support of 218

lawmakers to keep his role if all 434 house members vote. that means he can only afford one republican defection. here is gop congressman mike lawlor on mornings with maria and very critical of a potential fight over the gavel. >> on par with the removal of kevin mccarthy in 2023. it it is idiotic. personal petty grievances and the reality is you don't have to love the speaker. you don't have to go to dinner with the speaker but you have to work with him. the fact is we have a very small margin in the house and there is no room for error here. there is no room for egos to take hold. >> johnson's allies argue no one has come forward and doubt among trump and other members if anyone else can reach the

necessary 218 votes to win. >> rich: madeleine, thank you. in "focus" now guy benson, fox news contributor and host of the guy benson show on fox news radio. happy new year to you, guy. i want to just get started very directly here. do you think speaker johnson will get this done? >> i think he probably will. the math is even harder than we just heard there for madeleine because of some of those vacancies. the republicans have no margin left. if massey will vote for somebody else, the margin is 217 to 215. because of those three vacancies that will be filled months from now. he cannot, meaning johnson cannot afford to lose one more republican congressman. i do think because there is no viable alternative, because you are not really hearing any specific demands from some of the hold-outs for the most part and because none of them aside from massey have come out

against johnson. they're saying i'll wait and see and i want to have my conversations, i think probably especially with the boost from president-elect trump johnson gets exactly 216 votes on this thing and barely crosses the finish line with one hold-out. but if the map changes for some reason, if that calculus moves or shifts or one or two people decide they are unsatisfied or can maybe extract some concessions if they have this thing and drag it out for a while, then it could get messy and ugly again for the republicans. which is not how certainly president-elect trump wants the new year to start off as he prepares to take office. >> republicans in the house had tight margins over the last couple of years. this isn't the first time they've dealt with issues like this or the first time this conference hasn't had a speaker fight. this is the perspective from the "wall street journal" editorial board. house gop speaker test arguing that quote defeating mr. johnson would send the house into

disarray and to what end? some members may be holding their votes in reserve to angle for better committee posts in return for voting yes. that's the trouble with the house gop. too many members are looking out for themselves rather than the larger political good. the narrow majority gives them more leverage than they deserve. you know, guy, what about the argument against that that speaker johnson did not deliver the type of spending bill, for example, that the conference really wanted? >> the vast majority of the conference voted for it, right? there are hold-outs but the overwhelming majority of house republicans voted for the spending bill. a few different bites at the apple. no one was happy totally with the perfect final bill. it was not a pleasant experience as these things often are not but, i mean, as our colleague chad pergram always fixates on the math is the math. politics is a team sport. when you have more of a cushion in your majority some of the

colorful characters out there can say i'll go in front of the cameras and demand this and go on local radio station and say that. fine, but when there is a lot of incentive and a lot of leverage for even one or two members to mess with the whole process, the question becomes okay, is the greater good for the party and the interests of the party, is that going to prevail or win the day or are some of these personalities going to take over? a key difference between this time and the last few times we've seen the big speaker up heave always in the last few years for the republicans, donald trump. trump was out of office. joe biden was president at the time. it was divided government. the stakes seemed a little bit lower. donald trump absolutely does not want a bunch of drama leading into his inauguration because as the republicans keep talking about, they have a limited window with this unified government. they want to hit the ground running. they cannot do that if they don't have one shoe on one foot with the speakership.

everything sort of freezes at that point. >> rich: it is not like we're talking two years, you have the first 100 days and housekeeping to do and raise the debt limit, still have to fund the government. figure out your speakership fight and next year or technically still the year after 2026, everyone is off running for re-election. >> yep. you have one what they call reconciliation package where you can get something through the senate with certain specifics adhered to without being subject to a filibuster, a possibility maybe of a second reconciliation package in the year before you get to that mid-term election year. that is a limited time window with very small margins especially in the house and the question is, what are they going to do with those opportunities? are they going to make the most of them and then go back on the campaign trail talking about fulfilled promises? or will they squander the opportunities and let the democrats run around in 2026

saying the clowns can't govern. put us back with a check on donald trump. republicans will make that decision in the next few weeks. >> rich: starts in the next few days. immigration quick. federal, state and local spending is up on immigration and states caring for immigration my grants. ice has ended two programs that provide social services to those here illegally. taxpayers footed the bill. the agency told lawmakers that one of them brings immense cost with little improvement. it was designed to keep non-detained illegals compliant with enforcement but only worked 2% of the time. the other meant to help young illegals was deemed not cost effective. arizona sheriff has this to say. >> the billions of dollars we've spent over the last four years to address america's second. we have to put america first to

address our own people in this country. >> rich: democrats at least in the campaign over the last few months have pulled back from some of the immigration language they had during the bulk of president biden's term. do you think this is just a five month aberration or is change in the democratic party when it comes to immigration? >> maybe not among the democrats but at ice there has been a change. i think this is recognition leading indicator there will be a new administration in town, a new sheriff so to speak running things at the very top and donald trump and tom homan as well who used to run that organization. i think a lot of americans, rich, actually look at the story that you just highlighted about the pausing or ending of these two benefits programs. the organization, the agency that was facilitating those benefits has the word enforcement in its name, right? immigration and customs enforcement and yet they are doling out basically benefits and rewards to people who reall

acknowledge are in the country illegally. i think a lot of americans who may not pay that close attention to the nitty-gritty details of immigration policy look at that and say it's crazy especially if the data shows that these benefits programs were also very costly and ineffective. it is a lose, lose, lose for the american people. those two things have been stopped and i would imagine we'll see a couple more big changes and reforms very, very soon. >> rich: you still don't have it necessarily at the state level. california is having an argument with itself as are many other states. >> of course, you have a federalist system. and different states want to do things differently. gavin newsom and katie hobs want to flex and pretend they'll lead the resistance leading to a political future. the american people spoke clearly on the border crisis. job one coming up for the trump

administration. >> rich: thank you for joining us, always appreciate it. >> you bet, go devils. >> first place, by the way. another report that president biden believes he would have won the election and is fighting to define his legacy with three weeks left. some democrats are defending his time in office as successful. critics argue the opposite. >> i think he will leave office in disgrace. >> in the short term he will be remembered by the sense of buyer's remorse. >> if harris loses most of the way biden will be remembered is the guy just in between the trump term. >> rich: security blanketing new york city gearing up for the biggest celebration of the year. people are already staking out spots for the ball drop in times square as those around the world are already saying hello to 2025. hong kong welcoming in the new

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[cheering] >> rich: countries in the east already ringing in the new year, australia, new zealand, japan celebrated the start of the 2025 year as we count down here in the united states. our biggest celebration times square in new york city. nypd says it continues to operate under a heightened threat environment ahead of tonight's celebration and operating since october 7th this

israel. it is expected to draw a crowd of 1 million people. police are employing drones and under cover officers, dogs and boats. >> we have been operating in a heightened threat environment since october 7th and we remain vigilant. the public can expect to see a tremendous amount of police resources across the city and in the area. our drones will be deployed overhead to monitor the crowds in realtime and watch for any suspicious or unusual activity. >> rich: alexis mcadams is live at the party in times square, hi. >> no major party. hours to go right? people lined up since very early this morning. the good news is the weather is great right now. there is rain expected later tonight. people will need to put that into their plans. this comes as you mentioned there will be more than a

million people right here in times square for this huge celebration tonight and the nypd along with updating regular security plans for months watches what is happening across the country and around the world looking at what happened in the christmas market attack in germany to update this plan. >> there are persistent high-risk target and so frankly our new year's eve celebrations around the world. which is why we put so much emphasis on all of the resources that are here focused on keeping this city and this event safe. so it's calibrated to what is happening overseas. >> so we talk about this every year. the nypd has had so many huge events this past year and protests and everything and they're used to what is about to happen with big crowds. undercover units mixed in. no credible threats. security is a top priority talking bomb sniffing dogs and drone units patrolling the crowds. state agencies are also involved and look at the airports,

bridges, tunnels and the mass transit system that is expected to be packed. lines have been forming since early this morning. these people are smiling and don't mind the wait. people from all across the country and across the world are waiting to get a glimpse of the ball drop. once you are in the secure area you can't leave to go to the bathroom or you have to stay or wait all over again. >> not that you can jump the line and go back into the pen. you have to get online with everyone else accessing those entry points in times square and they don't recommend you leave. >> people are excited. you saw in the video. it will be a different waiting for eight to ten hours in those pens. they can't go to the bathroom. i don't know if they will jump for joy. if you have plans, i don't know what you are doing, i will save a spot but you can't leave once you get in, okay? >> rich: don't think i can make it. they might be smiling now but 12 hours and 39 minutes from now

let's see. alexis mcadams, thanks so much. >> rich: president biden with less than three weeks left in the white house. another report this week he believes he would have beaten president trump if he had stayed in the race. they spoke with dozens of associates around him recently and tell the outlet biden is spending his final days in office looking back at his career and reminding people of his achievements. the journal's headline biden exits battling for his legacy and believing he could have won. the 82-year-old president is spending final weeks in office telling war stories and avoiding criticism. critics are not optimistic for his legacy. >> i think he will leave office in disgrace. hunter biden pardon was disgraceful. he will be remembered largely for inflation and for the disastrous afghanistan pull-out. >> a lot of voters feel like they did not come away from

these four years with a world that feels more stable, economy that feels better. in the short time buyers remorse they weren't getting the biden presidency they were hoping for and why we have donald trump coming back. >> rich: jessica patterson, and david carlucci. thank you for joining us and happy new year to you. david, i want to start with you. when democrats went around president biden in 2020 they wanted him to beat trump and banish him to political wilderness. now an interlude between two trump terms. >> as we 2025 and the biden presidency in the rearview mirror people will remember the good things that president biden did. they weren't easy to do. one of the biggest investments we've seen in terms of renewing our economies here in parts of

our country that haven't seen that job growth in decades. and so i think it's easy to blame and have policies that might fit on a bumper sticker. as the trump campaign now turns into the trump presidency i think you will see a lot of these issues and a lot of talk about buyer's remorse saying a lot of these things were done under president biden. even congressional members republicans concerned about things like the chips act that have hundreds of millions of dollars going into their district and you have donald trump talking about just repealing all of it. and what we'll see of donald trump is that he has to govern with a scalpel and not an axe if he wants to be effective. that's what president biden did and might not be flashy or might not be the personality that everyone wants but the policies he will be remembered for that will make his legacy seem fonder as time moves on. >> rich: some of that spending according to "politico" hasn't quite made it out yet.

$42 billion of broadband service has yet to connect a single household. 7 1/2 bill to install electric vehicle chargers coast to coast. 47 stations in 15 states. is not addressing government efficiency, will that catch up the biden legacy? >> i don't think it will. what most people will remember is the disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan. they are going to remember the inflation that affected so many families and spread them so thin. they'll remember the wide open border if you'll remember was not a scaffold. it was an axe with executive orders on the first day. energy costs again executive orders on the first day. this is what people are looking forward to in 2025, a reversal of many of these biden policies. those are the things he will be remembered for. >> rich: david, was there also a failure just to maybe be a little more honest with the american people when it came to the border being secure, when it

came to inflation being under control for that time period? and even when you talked about afghanistan, any time you would ask about the specifics of the withdrawal we needed to withdraw, not that it was a complete mess. was there something missing here? >> look, these are hard things to do. joe biden did it. he talked about withdrawing from afghanistan. so did donald trump. but only one of them actually did it. so joe biden's legacy is full of these very hard decisions, things that are not popular on the left or the right. but are important for the future of our country and our economy. i think if we look very closely, of course we could find problems in this very large record that joe biden has. but that's true of anyone. when we look at it from a big picture, we'll look back and say yes, we were in despair, we were coming out of a pandemic. everyone was prognosticating we would be in a recession or maybe

a depression. we turned that around and now we have record highs on the stock market. look at your 401k and it is doing well. are there dark spots around the world and in this country? of course there are. that will continue under donald trump. that is why we're all going to get behind him and hope he does the right thing? just saying that all these policies are bad and do away with them are nonsense. here in upstate new york we have $1 hundred billion commitment from micron because of the chips act. you will find situations like that play out over and over again in congressional districts, most of which are in red states. i think the rhetoric will hit a hard stop once donald trump takes office and actually has to govern and not have policies that only fit on a bumper sticker. >> rich: final word, jessica. when you look at some of the things the president had to face, we were coming out of the pandemic. there was inflation around the world. are some of these things just

impossible for any president to manage? >> no. i think he could have taken some of the very phenomenal things that president trump did and continued them. he chose day one with executive order res whether the board are that ended up being one of the number one issues facing americans today, the economy, inflation, all of these things president trump was working very hard before the pandemic. i think president biden would have done well for himself if he had continued some of those policies like with energy. >> rich: jessica and david, thank you for joining us this morning. >> happy new year, thank you. >> happy new year. >> rich: something fishy going on in america's restaurants. lab-grown seafood made from fruit. major food companies think it is the wave of the future. many in the media don't appear to have learned their lesson mocking and insulting millions of trump supporters before they made him president. president-elect still at it.

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>> rich: an 1th hour, unprecedented legal fights and assassination attempts that sent shock waves through the nation. >> happy new year. >> 2024 kicked off with just two weeks to go before the iowa caucuses. as the new year began. >> we'll stop at nothing for this country. >> trump won >> well evict crooked joe biden from the white house. >> democrats stuck with president joe biden for now. >> donald trump's campaign is about him. >> the 46th president was also busy with his day job. >> i'm happy to have been able to forgive these loans.

when we realize we relieve americans of student debt they're free to chase their dreams. >> resolution is adopeded. >> this isn't a high crime or misdemeanor. >> mitch mcconnell announced he would make way for a new top republican in congress. >> it is time for the next generation of leadership. >> biden's state of the union address was a high point for the president. >> you are the reason we've never been more optimistic about our future. >> donald trump a low point found guilty of 34 counts of falsifying business records. the first president ever convicted of a felony. >> this is bigger than me and my presidency. >> then it was hunter biden convicted on three felony gun charges. >> this case was about the illegal choices defendant made while in the throws of addiction. his choice to lie on a government form. >> weeks later at a debate

president biden hoping to shift attention back to him did just that. perhaps not how he intended. >> look, if -- we finally beat medicare. >> i don't think he knows what he said either. >> the debate fallout and pressure from democrats to step aside. less than a month later biden was out and vice president kamala harris was in. >> i love joe biden and i know we all do and we have so many darn good reasons for loving joe biden. and i have full faith that this team is the team will be the reason we win in november. >> all part of an election year summer full of drama like none other. an assassination attempt during a trump rally in butler, pennsylvania. trump introducing his running mate at the rnc convention. senator vance of ohio. harris countering with her

nomination tim walz was her vp pick. >> we have a chance to make her the next president of the united states. >> they had one presidential debate. memorable. >> the springfield they're eating the dogs. >> while he was golfing in florida a second trump assassination attempt was foiled. >> we need more people here for security. and we never seem to get that. >> the final weeks of the campaign polls tightened. >> this race will come down to just a few thousand votes probably. a handful of states. it will so close. >> election day a red wave. >> experiencing a range of emotions now. >> for trump victory meant a flurry of cabinet appointments. president biden prepared to wrap up his decades-long career in politics including a presidential pardon for his son. >> the new rage item this season is a pardon. >> heading into 2025, more

changes are on the way. inauguration day is january 20th. trump is vowing on day one to make a big splash with a flurry of executive orders. stay tuned. in washington, fox news. >> rich: farm to table is looking a lot more like lab to table. investors are betting lab grown products catch on with customers. one food company partnered with chefs to bring fish free scallops and more to a major city. we're in chicago with more. hi, kelly. >> hi, rich. from start-ups to the big guys like tyson we're looking at the future of food and now as you mentioned lab-grown food could be that next step in what we eat at our dinner table. take a listen. >> what if i told you that this is not real tuna? >> i probably wouldn't believe

you. it looks real. >> it looks scary. >> based here in chicago is the only company in the world using cell you lows, a fiber found in fruit to make a seafood alternative. it uses fermentation to grow the cellulose like brewing beer. the co-founder says a big reason for the push is the environment and to help rebuild our oceans' eco systems. >> i thought it would have this magical experience at the great barrier reef diving underwater and it wasn't. it was shocking just to see truly dead corrals in the ocean. >> prices are on par with market prices for the real thing. $26 a pound fortune yeah and $28 a pound for scallops. right now aqua's products are used in dishes at a famous

restaurant in chicago. >> something exceptional that will be coming more accessible and popular. this will be the philosophy of a lot of companies and restaurants. >> 70% of seafood is consumed outside of the house and restaurant grade product is what they're focused on now. the food is not meant to be cooked as you may have noticed. those dishes were raw. if you ever get a chance to try it. rich. >> rich: kelly, thank you so much. appreciate it. this new year it is out with the old and in with the cold. dangerous temperatures in store for millions of americans. we'll tell you where the bundle up. plus many in the media are now saying sorry for how they covered president biden. critics not buying it. >> they themselves, i would argue, don't even believe what

they were saying. that was the narrative and what they were to say. it was their propaganda to defend the administration. >> rich: polls show trust in the media now at an all-time low. can they turn things around in the new year? joe concha weighs in next.

>> rich: it will be a frigid new year for millions. a polar vortex has the weather models screaming. it could go well into florida. adam klotz is at the fox weather center. >> big, big, big change in the next couple of days. if you are in a spot where it's warm, enjoy it. you look at the national temperatures already . eastern side of the country abnormally warm. a lot of spots in the 50s there. almost unheard of. obvious line in the middle of the country, colder air behind it. that will be spilling into the rest of the country over the next couple of days and one round after another as ultimately we'll see real cold air settle in. the forecast for this evening. anybody who wants to get in. the cold air settles in. the weather maker as far as rain moving across the midwest.

it will be running up across new england and get into the mid atlantic as well. for folks trying to do the ball drop in new york city looks soggy this evening. forecast for the new year's day again big weather maker lingering here in the northeast and across the pacific northwest. otherwise the colder temperatures. minneapolis is the spot to pay attention to. obviously a place where it typically is cold this time of year. that's where we're centered and the round one we'll see of this cold air sweeping across ultimately the midwest getting into the mid atlantic. round two behind it will push further to the south. you are talking about more folks getting in on this really cold air talking about january 6th. early next week that real cold air settling in and primes us then for ultimately a third blast of cold air ground air already cold and then we see round after round after round. this probably the most significant of those numbers you'll see freezing temperatures

getting down to the gulf states and staying cold here for several days. obviously any time it's this cold you have to watch low pressure systems. a little early to know where these might go but the air will be there so we'll see probably rounds of snow and ice, something to pay attention to for the first half of january anyways. >> rich: thanks so much. >> undercover and under reported would be to me joe biden's obvious cognitive decline that became undeniable in the televised debate. we should have much more forcefully questioned whether he was fit for office for another four years. which could have led t primary for the democrats. it could have changed the scope of the entire election. >> rich: conservatives angry about the comments. critics say they ring hollow. one posting true self-reflection would demand the question why was that? most legacy media are democrat

propaganda. after actively engaging in a cover-up of biden's cognitive state legacy media is now attempting to rewrite history. daily caller piece summed it up. rather than take a principled stand on journalistic ethics ignoring the cognitive decline of joe biden, she lamented her and the media's lack of scrutiny lost their chance to run another candidate. others claim they should have done a better job. >> i should have pushed harder earlier for more information about joe biden's mental and physical well-being. >> they did a good job of hiding it for a long time. journalists, i put myself here. we should have been pushier. >> rich: american's thoughts on resolutions for the media. >> tell us the truth. >> true coverage of everybody. >> tell us the truth. >> be fair. >> they need more honest.

>> accuracy, being for the people not themselves. >> american people want to hear the truth and sometimes that isn't what they're hearing. >> rich: recent polls show 69% say they have little or no confidence at all in the news media. joe concha is a fox news contributor and joins us today. thank you so much and happy new year, joe. do you think that this soul searching, do you think it is mostly regret about how the president was covered or it is a regret they didn't manage to push the president to move aside a little earlier? >> it's patently phony, rich. after the fact. i couldn't believe crawford's comments when she said that joe biden's cognitive decline only became apparent to all of us at the debate in atlanta in june. it's been apparent going back to the campaign of 2020. the reason why the biggest scandal in modern presidential history, call it for what it is

underreported. media organizations like cbs news refused to report what was right in front of them. they didn't have to dig, just watch and listen to biden, or they bought into the insulting deepfakes narrative pushed by the white house. listen to these headlines that came out back in june before that debate quote, misleading biden virals go viral. examining the impact of cheap fakes on the 2024 race. that's called gas lighting and it was intentional. all in an effort to defeat trump at all costs, don't believe for a second that journalists were duped to believing biden was fine. we all saw biden shaking hands with the air after speeches. all saw biden 50 year political veteran not knowing how to exit a stage or wandering off during photo shoots or claiming he had talked to leaders dead for nears. the brain turned to apple sauce

many years ago. no partisan outlet could convince us otherwise. >> rich: do you think there has been a sense as politicians are beginning to age a sensitivity talking about politicians as they get into their 80s and are still running for re-election? >> i think we could at least have a conversation around term limits, for example. or in this case joe biden couldn't be terminated but he will be 83, 84 years old at the end of his term so maybe this is something where we should as journalists demand for physical and mental tests to be done to see if they are still up for the job. that's at least fair. depends on what ledger you have next to your name, d or r whether those things are truly explored. >> rich: comments from don lemon tore into trump supporters after a republican debate over a

migrant visa program for skilled workers. >> oh my gosh, i love this. now you are finding out you dumb [bleep] idiots. you are figuring this out. you are so bleep student and you deserve it. you are so dumb. jim, it is hypocrisy. could have been co-operated because you are in a cult because stupid maga brain and don't get it. how stupid and dumb are you? >> rich: not the first time we've heard similar rhetoric. >> you could put half of trump supporters into what i call the basket of deplorables. [laughter] right? [cheers and applause] the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic, you name it. >> the only garbage i see floating out there is his

supporters. >> rich: 77 million americans voted for trump this time around. he beat harris in the popular vote by 200,000 ballots. first republican candidate to win since bush in 2004. joe, this is also just bad politics, no? >> yeah. that's the thing, rich. democrats used to be the party of working man and woman. now they sound like elites when they talk down to people like this. you want to go after donald trump or any republican, fine, fair game. but when you start going after their supporters, all 78 million that may turn people off. you would think people would have learned from what happened in hillary clinton. one of the biggest moments in the 2016 campaign when she went after trump supporters like that. it was a rallying cry and the biggest unforced error we've seen and we saw the comments from joe biden referring to trump supporters as garbage.

trump drove the garbage truck. don lemon talking about how stupid trump supporters are. that's what desperation sounds like. the kind of desperation from a guy begging for anyone to pay attention to him. he let the bail down. we were told he was a serious journalist asking serious questions without fear or favor to party. he has a show on youtube channel. 10,000 people watched. you could put a kitten playing yarn up. goodbye 24. >> rich: thank you for joining us and thank you for watching "the faulkner focus." i'm rich edson in for harris, "outnumbered" is after the break. this isn't a spa. (laughs) that's a rule. meanwhile, at a vrbo—

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