[cheers] ♪ ♪ this is my one resolution. >> griff: good morning welcome back to the second hour of "fox & friends" very special new year day that was the scene in times square a few hundred feet from where we are right i guess early this morning. thankfully that's not the scene there now. most of those people have found either breakfast or a bed because it was pretty quiet out there when i came in this morning. >> nicole: there were still a few people out and about. i would say definitely united qd down. clean up crews making their way through. didn't have that smell of urine that usually welcomes me every morning when i come in.

>> griff: you mention the clean up crews. our hats off to the sanitation folks. really quite remarkable as someone who has been in times square as a reporter. to watch literally moments after the ball dropped the crowd started dispersing because thessalonians they have been there 12-plus hours. the sanitation crews come in and by the time you get a cup of coffee you will see clean streets and nobody does it better than new york in terms of being not only putting police last night went off without a hitch. no incidents of note. also the clean up to return times square to the way it normally is. but it was quite something last night. and it's a new year. we made it. >> 2025. here we are. >> griff: i got a feeling. >> you and the rest of the world. every poll shows people are more optimistic and excited for 2025. earlier when we were talking about resolutions we asked our fox viewers what are your new year's resolutions and the emails have been pouring. in the first one from bill in

florida. my resolution don't talk about it. just do it. i like that,. >> joey: that's exactly right. brian says all slate clean to let go of any anger or animosity i have towards anyone, very stoic there. and we appreciate you, brian. >> nicole: especially after a meeted political cycle it would be great to come together 2025 and put the past behind us. >> joey: ron is on the winning side easy for him to say. >> nicole: you never know. >> griff: bill says this my new year's resolution is to stop profiting but i'm considering prophet procrastinating considering putting it off until february: >> nicole: email them to friends@foxnews.com and we may read them on air. we are still working on our

ourselves. >> griff: whatever you are doing, go big, all in. elm abrasion brace the energy that's in this country right now. embrace the positivity, the optimism, we're seeing it at mar-a-lago. we are seeing it with this incoming administration. i think really measure because i'm getting older. >> this is a moment in time where you say this is it. live in the now. take this energy. take the belief in yourself and go all in, go big. no matter what your resolution is. diet, saving money, whatever. just all. in. >> nicole: i'm going to go the opposite. i like baby steps. i think that it's important to kind of do little things every single day to live a happier, healthier life. one of the big things that i really like doing are trying new things, learning new things. 2024 i learned that junk and pickleball. and work 2025 being better i'm considering learning a new

language gets the brain firing. >> griff: what language. >> nicole: i already speak spanish, english. the easy thing would be italian. i am italian. it is romance language piggybacks on spanish. i'm taking suggestions. >> griff: what about mandarin. >> nicole: that's commitment. >> joey: talking about learning a new language i'm still learning english, maybe my resolution to be a little bit sharper on english. for me it's real easy. i want to take more risks and aggressive about things i'm going to do. people hear that he is going to start a business no, for me that might be walking down a hill without a handrail. i will take more risks and gets more aggressive on things. somebody who has no problem taking a risk or getting aggressive on things is about to be the 47th president of the

united states. donald trump. new year's eve he was more reflective. >> friends and family. we are all here tonight. thank you all very much. it's a great honor. and we are are going to do a great job as president. we are going to do a great job as president. [cheers] make it better than ever before. the country will be better than ever before. so thank you all for being here tonight. it's a record night in every way and we really appreciate it. very, very special people. tremendous friends. thank you all. >> joey: there you go. thanking his friends and family. as he often says, letting folks know we are going to make it better. >> griff: interesting in his toast we're going to be a great president. we're going to make it better. really the connection he had in the maga movement which was the voice of the people that's as we saw the election results popular and electoral vote evident he connected with the americans hey

the country industry going a wrong direction we want it to go a different way. in this toast whether he intended to do it specifically or not kept that connection he had with them and the mandate that he believes he has now for the country. >> nicole: speaking of the mandate. earlier this week giving his endorsement for mike johnson and again talking a little bit last night, one of the things he is doing is putting republicans on notice, you need to get behind and you need to make sure that by the time i take office, that we are able to move forward because republicans have always been their own worst enemy. just thinking about last year and we had to have a stalled congress because they had 15 votes just to get mccarthy in. as we know that didn't last very long and didn't go well. i think by endorsing speaker johnson he is saying you need to get this done. you will not delay me and all the progress that i have promised to the american people. >> joey: the thing that people need to remember that his agenda is not conservatism. the agenda is america first populism. all that infighting that is

happening among republicans over the conservative movement doesn't really effect him in the way that he is trying to prosecute his own agenda, which is to make the border close you had, make the country safe. push the economy forward. and this is him speaking on his endorsement of speaker johnson. >> looking forward, i think we are going to have great time in washington. i think we are going to great great support. people like him. almost everyone likes him. others are good too. they have 30 or 40 people that don't like him. that's pretty tough. >> are you calling members on his behalf? >> if ceary. i think really we are going to have a great time. we are going to get a successful vote. is he a good man. is he a wonderful person. and that's what you need. >> joey: brings a very pragmatic approach he is the one that kin with. there are others, 30 or 40 people don't like them. he doesn't weigh in on how the budget is passed or something if

they need to fight over. at the white house level, give me the money i need to go do the things i want to do. griff griff here is the problem 48 hours away from the 119th congress coming into session. the first thing they will do is vote for speaker. we already know how tight the math is there is 219. you need 218. 219 republicans, # 18 to pass. we already know that thomas massi doubled down even with the trump endorsement he respects the incoming president but yet is he going it vote against johnson. and you have a handful of thin sitters representative victoria spartz and tim burchett hasn't committed how he will vote. this is either posturing by wish list of some things they want. some cases a committee assignment which is a bit selfish considering the g.o.p. disarray that would unfold if

these members put their personal agendas aheaded of the grader good. if you do anything resembling what we saw last time 15 votes over four days throw a wrench in quickly getting to the agenda. that president-elect trump wants which is the border, the tax cut extennation and the debt cereal and all the other things. we are going to learn a lot come friday midday about exactly how that is going to go. >> nicole: very narrow margin and all it will take victoria spartz was to vote for someone else, it could stop the vote. if she votes herself present and everyone else votes for him, except for massi then it would go through. as you said there is still a couple on the fence. there are going to be mean tweets if this vote doesn't go through. >> griff: we will see where that goes. meanwhile a fox news alert. a new year's tragedy unfolding in new orleans earlier this morning. >> nicole: multiple people are

dead and at least 30 have been hospitalized after a car plowed into the crowd. >> joey: chanley painter joins us now. chanley, what do we know so far. >> it is a developing story. but we have confirmed at least 10 penal are dead after a car drove into a large crowd celebrating new year's on c canl and bourbon street. at least 30 people had to be hospitalized this happened on undowntownedly one of the busiest nights of the year the sugar bowl taking place later today. still a huge police presence at the scene. including the fbi, the coroner's office and the mayor also said to be at that scene looked outside and body were on the floor. will louisiana governor jeff landrieu posting on x. horrific act of violence took

place on bourbon street earlier this morning. please join sharon and i in praying for all the victims and first responders on the scene. i urge all near the scene to avoid the area. and like i said this is developing. we are constantly checking my phone with updates as we are learning from new orleans po police. >> griff: frightening stuff a lot of great times at mardi gras. the mindset is las vegas. all in, all party. it's interesting, louisiana governor jeff landrieu tweeting out i urge all near the scene to take precaution and cleertd area. which can sometimes a little difficult in a city used to partying and horrific tragedy unfolding as you look at images of the crime scene happening

literally hours ago. >> joey: we talk about new york city and crime and what happens on the subway and things being randomly punched or shot. new orleans has been hit by what we call a crime epidemic. in 201 i went to the sugar bowl and walked around but bon street the entire french quarter i didn't think twice about it. a bunch of football fans, nothing felt unsafe or dangerous or even, you know, bad in any way. and then by the time i revisited at a different time of year in 2022, i was told hey, you wanting to stay in the garden district and don't be in the french quarter at night. that's how much it had turned to the worst. here is a tragic example of that in new orleans. >> nicole: the city has hit bad with tourism e.p.a. and covid lockdowns. they had a hard time recovering. people traveling and being there for festivities. looked like absolutely

beautiful. heard bore this story, so many questions, is this a drunk driver that inadvertently went off the road and accidently hit. when you started hearing about the gunfire and realizing this probably was intentional that has killed 10 people. 30 still in the hospital. we don't know if any more are going to die. it's devastating and not news that you want to bring in the new year. this is the reality that cities all across the r country are facing. high crimes, economic instability. people are not in a good place, which is why looking forward to 2025 people are beginning to feel hopeful. promises that president-elect trump is making and the plans that he has for the country on how to get crime under control and. >> griff: thank goodness that law enforcement and first responders were working and able to respond. we know so far at this moment, a developing story 10 dead, 30 hurt after car plowed into a

crowd shot into crowd. we will bring you more as we get it. all right. moving on. r.f.k. jr. could reshape american diets in 2025 if is he confirmed as hhs secretary, dr. saphier explains why seed oils have become a target for r.f.k. jr., health influencers. >> nicole: can i say one thing i'm so happy about sitting on the couch with both of you guys is listening to you guys say oil. can you say it one more time? i love the southern accent. >> griff: going to say oiling. do i have an accent is it he does. he is rubbing off on me. >> joey: first time the show has gone off the rails in 2025. new special and he talks about he steals so many of my jokes in that. we have to have a word. when you talk like me and sail oil and foil. you have to make fun of it because people don't know.

>> griff: oil. >> joe: we can't make that noise. like we can't like oil, i can't go up to back down too much. >> nicole: we digressed. >> griff: i'm reporter and anchor and have the word oil in the prompter how many other times and think about never time now that you said that oil, cotton seed oil, grape seed oil. >> nicole: no right or wrong way that's how you do it. r.f.k. jr. i'm very excited about the make america healthy again movement. obviously talk talk about this for years and see to cece momentum behind it is thrilling as a physician and mother. one of the big things that r.f.k. jr. has been speaking about that he is against are seed oils. he is saying he is not going to go and take away mcdonald's and burger king and everything else. he wants to change the way that the foods are prepared. specifically, when it comes to seed oils.

canola oil, corn, cotton seed, grape seed. you can see them all on there. people ask why are seed oils so bad? they are highly refeigned. there is a lot of chemicals involved in that process, they bleach, deodor rise it. strips all the nutrients from it. while there are omega 6s. we want to have omegas in our diet why i recommend eating walnuts and salmon. when you have too many omega 6s you get from seed oils causes imbalance and lead to inflammation and lead to autoimmune diseases, arthritis, cancer and other things. when you are thinking you are having omegas to help your heart health you are actually causing inflammation that can leads to poor heart condition. my recommendation what i always cook with extra virgin 08 live oil. also use avocado oil and even

butter. >> joe: he says beet beef tall low. is that bad not use lard. >> nicole: not all the harmful chemicals. everything in moderation. that's okay. i cook with butter all the time because, listen, you don't have to be a health expert. don't have to be a new tuition expert we all could be doing better be. >> griff: expert come in. meanwhile more "fox & friends" just ahead.

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scene. >> griff: the driver reportedly got out of the vehicle and fired a weapon. police are said to have returned fire. no word at this point on the suspect responsible. louisiana governor jeff landry posting this moments ago on x saying horrific act of violence took place on bourbon street earlier this morning. please join sharon and i in praying for all the victims and first responders on the scene. i urge all near the scene to avoid the area. this is a developing story. we are waiting to hear from the new orleans police superintendent. maybe the mayor. we will continue to bring you the latest on this as we hear more and the fact that you have the sugar bowl just later today, the georgia playing notre dame. a lot of people are in this town and this horrific incident has happened. canal and bourbon for anyone who has been to new orleans knows that is just -- it's like times square. it's a very central part for tourists to come as first

responders police still trying to sort out how who are risk tragedy occurred on new year's eve was this intoxicated driver who went off the street inadvertently and accidently hit people. the fact that there was some gunfire exchanged points away that maybe this was intentional. obviously that's going to raise the threat level to the sugar bowl game later on this day. i think we are looking forward to the press conference to getting more answers. right now still a lot of questions. but, it is devastating that 10 have been confirmed killed. 30 are hurt in the hospital. we'll don't know if there will be mortality fatalities, looking forward to a press conference as soon as we can get some more information. >> joey: just a reminder of how much faith we put in each other when we go outside our home and have celebration in a city that does never year multiple times a year from mardi grew sugar bowl.

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♪ >> griff: now to a fox news alert. new year's tragedy unfolding in new orleans. >> nicole: at least 10 people dead and 30 hospitalized after a car plowed into a crowd. >> joey: chanley painter joins us with what we know so far. >> chanley: we just learned one new orleans police officer is among the 30 injured after a car drove into a large crowd celebrating new years on canal and bourbon street. this all happening just hours ago. on undoubtedly one of the busiest nights of the year with new years and the sugar bowl taking place later today. right now there is still huge police presence at the scene, including the fbi, the coroner's office and the mayor is also reportedly at the scene. now, the driver reportedly got out of vehicle and fired a weapon. police are said to have returned fire. but no word at this point on the suspect responsible. they heard loud banging and

looked outside and there were bodies on the floor. jeff landry posting this on x horrific act of violence took place on bourbon street earlier this morning. please join sharon and i in praying for the victims and first responders on scene. i urge all near the scene to avoid the area. >> this is a quopg story but we are waiting to hear from the new orleans police superintendent soon in a press conference. we will continue to bring you the latest as we learn more, guys. >> griff: all right, chanley painter, bring us more as you get it. this is terrible news to wake up to. new orleans emergency preparedness office which tweeted out an hour ago on the nolo ready people live in the city can emergency preparedness calling it a mass casualty incident on canal and bourbon street saying get yourself away from the area as we await to hear from the officials at the press conference that police

presence continuing to massive. 10 dead, 30 hurt. situation you hope never hans. we'll don't know what the motive was. we don't know who the suspect is and why this happened. we do know that it is a detective situation for city known for parties have the sugar bowl later and also they do a new orleans news day parade, we will see what happens. meanwhile we have the new orleans press conference here where authorities are giving us an update. let's listen. in. >> headquarters if that changes we will let you know and for 3:00 p.m. with that we will get our group behind us to assemble. as i said, we will have three to four of our leaders speaking. we won't be able to take questions because we are still actively investigating this situation and with that we will bring our group out to get assembled. let's get in position for where you are. we just heard a spokesperson for the marital that we are about to have -- >> griff: yeah. so as we wait for that.

obviously the spokesperson with the mayor's office trying to get we see this police superintendent waiting there. and i guess mayor cantrell as well. hopefully will give us update on how something like this unf unfolded. >> joey: three of us on our s seat: yesterday was a known large crowd gathering around the country and around the world: intoxicated, and, you know, swerved into a crowd and came out angry. terrorist incident? the possibility. some sort of clarity as these people get ready to step to the microphone. here we go.

>> mayor. remarks. >> thank you. >> >> thank you. good morning. first of all, we do know that the city of new orleans the city of new orleans was impacted by a terrorist attack. it's all still under investigation. you will hear more after me; however, i have been in direct contact with the white house, with governor landry and, of course, a union find commands who is present here. what i'm asking at this time our prayers for those who have lost their lives in the city of new orleans in addition to that i'm asking the public to stay clear. to stay clear. 8 blocks around but bore street. stay clear from bourbon street 8

blocks around ask chief kirkpatrick to give you update. you are then going to hear from our agent in charge relative to the fbi. so at this time cheer kirkpatrick. >> thank you. all right. >> i will give you as much of the information as i possibly can update. we will give you just the basics this morning. all right? we had this event started at about 3:15 it did involve a man driving a pickup truck down bourbon street at a very fast pace and it was very intentional behavior. this man was trying to run over as many people as he possibly could. it was not a dui situation.

this is more complex, more serious, based on the information we have right now. with respect to numbers. we have right now and as you already know, this could change throughout the day. we do know that there are 26 injured people who are at umc hospital. we know we have four at tempetourrow. four at auctionner baptist. one at tulane. even as i i was walking out the door oncology firmed additional people taken to other area hospitals, possibly on the east side. we will give you as many correct numbers as we can as the day progressives tragic as we know we have 10 people that this man

killed on bourbon street many that is why we do not want people on bourbon street today. wherever you see yellow tape please do not violate. this tape is an order to protect and stabilize the scene we have information to a certain degree of demographics those in the hospital right now. we do not know at this point how many could be tourists versus locals but from the information i have right now it seems the majority are locals versus tourists what i also can tell you this man, this perpetrator, he fired on our officers from his vehicle when he crashed his

vehicle two of our officers have been shot. they are stable and we will give you an update on them. i have yet been able to go to the hospital. i will be leaving here for us to go visit our officers. we have called in every officer that we have. we have so much appreciated our partnerships who have also offered us staff. last night we had over 300 officers out here. and because of the intentional mindset of this perpetrator who went around our barricades in order to conduct this, he was hell bent on creating a carnage and the damage that he did. because of the nature and indices that we have on the scene and we have enough information that the fbi will be

taking over this investigation. and, with that, i am going to be asking -- this is the assistant agent in charge. this is agent duncan. special agent duncan and he has taken over this case on behalf of us and the fbi. as always, we will be in partnership with all of our partners but agent duncan, if you want to have a few words for everybody. >> thank you, ma'am. good morning, my name is alissa duncan i'm the special agent in charge for fbi new orleans. as chief kirkpatrick said we will be taking over the investigative lead for this event. this is not a terrorist event. what it is right now is improvised explosive devices that was found. we are working on confirming if this is a viable device or not. as chief kirkpatrick said, we are asking everyone to stay away from bourbon street. specifically from canal street

to saint ann's. that is my ask. once again, stay away from bourbon street, canal street, all the way to saint ann until we can figure out what is going on. our goal provide additional information at the 11:00 a.m. press conference. thank you so much and we will be in touch. >> yes. i will say that we want our community and our visitors to continue enjoying. there is so much to enjoy about new orleans and we are going to make sure that our routes and superdome are safe today for the game. and, we had this tragic event. and we are sorry, again, to everyone in our community. but we do want you to go about the day as we say. just stay away from bourbon. okay? >> could you elaborate on the device? you did say something about a device. >> we actually are not going to be taking questions this morning until we have more information. that's why we will give you an 11:00 briefing so, until then,

please hold your questions, we will give you everything that we possibly can. okay? so, 11:00. we will see you at the headquarters and we will go again from there. okay? >> were the. >> the devices confirmed? >> thank you all. we will see you at 11:00 a.m. >> joey: two things coming from that that we all sat here and note. two things, seems to be an active hazard. there are ieds or homemade bombs on scene. and, two, griff. the mayor called it a terrorist attack. the police chief said this was intentional, based on what we know, and then the fbi agent, which is suspicious enough that the fbi has taken over this soon, she got up there and said it was not a terrorist attack. makes you wonder if d. she misspeak? trying to make some sort of distinction here? >> griff: just heard from the mayor of new orleans cantrell

along with police superintendent and now the special agent in charge of the fbi. the fbi now in the lead of this tragedy and you point out rightfully so, joey, that there was conflicting information in the update they just gave not taking any questions, which really they should have because the mayors one of her first words this was a terrorist attack. and, of course, the superintendent of the police department there saying that this individual was, quote: hell bent and then the fbi special agent in charge duncan taking the lead saying that there may be ieds, something you are familiar with in this city so we really need much more information that appears there is not going to be another press conference for a few hours. we will continue reaching out to find out more. >> nicole: again, we are a little confused. the mayor came out and immediately said this is a terrorist attack. the superintendent kirkpatrick coming out saying this was intentional. this male at about 3:15 a.m. was

driving as fast as he possibly could down the street and tried to hit as many people as possible and then, upon crashing his own car, started firing upon officers. hitting two of them in the hospital, according to the superintendent they are in stable condition right now. 26 injured have been sent to university medical center, which is a level 1 trauma. several others baptist and tulane. the information is 10. joey, as you point out you have special agent duncan hot superintendent said because of the way that this was performed that the fbi is going to be taking over does lead us to believe they are leaning towards a terrorist attack. special agent duncan immediately says this is not considered a terrorism event at this moment but then goes in saying that possible ieds. >> joey: let's talk about what they did tell us. this was not a dui.

not a drunk driving veering into traffic. police superintendent was speaking she said this was intentional based on what we know. is that information they are getting from the perpetrator himself? they said it was a man. that's another detail. is this information from him about his intent and who he is? is this based on his identity? we don't know is he live or not. >> this is something i want to point out with the information they just gave us. this is a tactical maneuver called complex ambush. i want to walk you through what that means. create mass casualty and disruption and chaos with your first action, which is to drive into the crowd and blowing up a convoy. next step take out as many people as possible usually with a firearm. that's exactly what he did. the third step there that makes this more tactical and a complex ambush is this idea that you have some means of continuing the destruction even if you are taken out. that's what these ieds are. when you put this together it

becomes a very tactically planned out why or how or w whos it coincidence or terrorist? we don't know. that's exactly what this is. in military and law enforcement you train for these scenarios and when these events come together and you realize that this was not just intentional but planned out, that's when you probably do need the fbi. let's check this person's identity. let's find out who this vehicle is registered to. let's see are there other -- i'm not trying to add in to this speculation, but the concern is if this person did this last night are they connected to other people looking to do it in other places? >> griff: this occurred just over three hours ago. we know from the timeline they said about 3:15 a.m. listen the folks are confused now because you had conflicting messages with the mayor coming out right away saying terrorism. and the fbi without context saying it's not considered a terrorism event. en in a city where a lot of

people will soon wake up, learn this news and plan to go to the sugar bowl or go out to the new orleans, knee yearens day and the concerns there could be imbureau advised guesses. lt. randy sutton served 24 years with the las vegas police department. i believe we have got him on the line now. randy, as you wake up and learn. >> '6" several reaction. my reaction when i first began hearing about this report and familiarizing myself was terror attack. first thing came to my mind was so similar to the attack in germany christmastime where the individual ran his vehicle into the crowd there when i listened to the press conference that was

just given there. i got to tell you a little bizarre. the mayor coming on saying terror. the police chief coming on and sasaying what she said and tellg everybody to have great time today assistant to the fbi saying it's not a terror attack and taking over. let me tell you something if this was not a terror attack, the fbi would not be taking over this case. then you listen to the fact that there were ieds involved, they did not say anything about the suspect. they didn't say -- they did say he shot two police officers did they shoot him? take him into custody? what happened to him? i'm taken aback by the brevity of this press conference and then the kind of distorted information between the different leadership.

>> nicole: are are things you anticipate these crowds and what do you think happened? >> you heard that they had 300 officers attached to the bourbon street area. anybody who has ever been to new orleans during any type of mardi gras or party, you know, new orleans is a very, very sophisticated city when it comes down to law enforcement response to large crowds. they know what they are doing. they have handled large crowds for years and years and years. so they are not strangers to handling large crowds, but they also are very cognizant of the fact that they want to -- they don't want to inhibit the crowd, so they don't block off the streets per se. with large barriers as we have

seen in other areas. so, it would be almost impossible, unless they set barriers up. concrete barriers to stop a situation like this when you are using a vehicle as a weapon. >> joey: randy, you make a good point. they came out early in the press conference and said this was a terrorist attack. that was backed up with this is very intentional with what we know and then both from the superintendent and the fbi agent you have kind of a change in tone almost immediately and this idea of go out and have a good time and fbi agent saying we don't know if she presidents spoke. we are not saying she did. we are curious saying this is not a terrorist attack. if you all of those words face value and put them together, you start to form the idea that they know this person was doing something intentional but they don't have reason to believe it's connected to other threats. can you pull that away from this or is it just so convoluted you can't get near it?

>> yeah. at this point, we can't make any decisions about here is the only difference between, you know, a mass murder and terrorist attack. is there an ideology attached to this? >> joey: motivation. >> if this was a mass murder attack, which clearly it was, it can't be terrorist related. it can be terrorists related but it doesn't have to be. the suspect is what is key determining whether it's terrorist or not. the fact that the fbi is taking the lead in the case is a big indicator. >> griff: well, as we look like now, you are seeing new orleans along canal street. just after 3:00 a.m. canal and bourbon street. this tragedy unfolded. an individual who we do not know what his motives were. randy, it really does, furthering the point you are just making. so we know from the superintendent, particularly the police superintendent, that the

individual was hell-bent. that it was an intentional mindset as joey sort of laid out for us. it was a multi layered create the chaos and then carry out the second punch. if it wasn't terrorism, what would it be? >> the only other thing it could be is a deranged individual that wanted to commit mass murder. this has all the earmarks of terrorism related attack if you don't know don't say anything to the public. what was just created here by the state and by the fbi was that grew more. conjecture.

because of the in what was just told to the public by the city and leadership of law enforcement. >> nicole: the conjecture can insight panic. when they started to mention that there may be ieds present and stay 8 blocks away from the center. people waking up in new orleans and hearing this and maybe in close proximity. all of a sudden they may think potential victim of explosion if one of these devices go off. a lot of comments they made but left a lot of questions. and i think could really leave people feeling unsettled. >> >> i would absolutely be unsettled. i would stay so far away from that area. as far as the chief telling people to go have a good time today. >> joey: yeah, that was just strange. >> what are you thinking? >> joey: yeah, real quick. i want to make sure that we are explaining to our viewers what we are discussing here. there are some semantics over

what is terrorism. there is definition are you trying to enact political change? then there is this idea are you just trying to terrorize people? i think really why this matters is that someone who was inspired to go create terror on his own or is he inspired by someone or is he working in concert with someone? and i would imagine, quickly, you would handle those two scenarios differently. >> absolutely. and here's the i shouldn't be as critical as i am being right now. in a dynamic situation like this. where you have a mass casualty, you know, information and then disseminate it in a form that that is understandable and legitimate it's a challenge perspective of the mayor and chief of police and -- here's the thing.

>> griff: it is a challenge with a lot of unanswered questions, lt. randy sutton. got leave it there. thank you for joining us for your insights and tragedy unfolding in new orleans. we will bring you more on this story right after a quick break. ♪vacc arexvy does not protect everyone and is not for those with severe allergic reactions to its ingredients. those with weakened immune systems may have a lower response to the vaccine. the most common side effects are injection site pain, fatigue, muscle pain, headache and joint pain. arexvy is number one in rsv vaccine shots. rsv? make it arexvy.

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