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special breaking news edition of "hannity." i'm tammy bruce in for sean. so tonight, terror in new orleans. just after 3:00 a.m., an apparent islamic extremist named shamsud-din jabbar, was behind the wheel of a white pickup truck lloyded with weapons, potential explosives and festooned with an isis flag. when he drove around police barricades and on to bourbon street, where jabbar rammed into a crowd of revelers celebrating the new year. after crashing jabbar then exchanged fire with police and was killed in the shoot-out but not before he was able to murder at least 15 innocent people. while injuring dozens of others, including two responding police officers, but according to the authorities, jabbar did not act alone. as police are now on the hunt for a range of suspects and are investigating multiple possible other explosive devices placed around new orleans. here now with the very latest from new orleans,
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garrett tenney is with us. garrett. >> yeah, tammy. one of the top priorities for investigators right now is determining whether or not jabbar acted alone in planning out or carrying out these attacks because, if he didn't, that would mean there would still be the possibility of additional attacks like the one we saw this morning. one update we-to-do have along those lines, in our reporting, is that investigators had been looking at surveillance video from earlier that showed three men and one woman, who appeared to be placing impro vialsed explosive devices around the french quarter. we are now told, sources telling our own david spunt, that police interviewed those four individuals and now believe they just were bystanders who happened to look suspicious. that being said, we do know bomb squads have searched the french quarter and detonated multiple i.e.d.s that were left in the area.
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also, right now in houston, houston, texas, just a few hours away, a swat team from the f.b.i. and local police have surround add house on the north side of the city. we are told that house is in some way connected to this morning's terror attack and that they are concerned there could be explosive devices inside that home. so police have been clearing out everyone who lives nearby before they move in. we know the 42-year-old suspect lived in houston at some point but, again, not clear if this is his home or the home of someone else who is connected to him. we also want to show you this video, showing the beginning of this attack, and it is hard to watch. you can see this white truck jumping a curb into a crowd of people on bourbon street, right in front of a police car that was blocking the entrance, before taking off down the road, plowing through the crowds of people who were out celebrating. then this other video shows the moments right after the attack, looking down on
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bourbon street from a balcony where several lifeless bodies are laying in the road. people who were celebrating moments earlier are running around trying to figure out what to do. the death toll right now stands at 15 people, and more than 30 others were injured, and all day the coroner's office has had vans coming out of the scene, bringing those bodies out throughout the day. just this past hour, we saw them bring out the final of those bodies. this is still very much an active crime scene here. they are asking folks to stay away. again, as you mentioned, in part because of concerns there could be potentially additional i.oh d.s that were left in this area that police simply have not found yet. i.e.d.s. tammy? >> horrible story, garrett. thank you very much for your reporting all night and all day today. still more questions obviously than answers. for more details from washington, let's now bring in david spunt. david?
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>> reporter: president biden is at the presidential retreat at camp david, but tammy, he has been receiving updates from the highest levels of law enforcement, the f.b.i., d.o.j., d.h.s. and other intelligence agencies all day today. he gave an address to the american people from camp david just a few hours ago. watch. >> president joe biden: reported to me that mere hours before the attack, he posted videos on social media indicating that he was inspired by isis, especially the desire to kill, desire to kill. the isis flag was found in his vehicle, which he rented to conduct this attack. >> reporter: that 42-year-old suspect also served in the military, specifically in the u.s. army, even deploying to afghanistan for almost a year in 2009. authorities continue, tammy, to go through his social media and all known contacts as they believe others are well aware of his plans in advance. now meanwhile, the man who's moving into this white house behind me in less than three
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weeks, president-elect donald trump put out a statement on social media earlier today that reads in part as follows: "our hearts are with all the innocent victims and their loved ones, including the brave officers of the new orleans police department. the trump administration will fully support the city of new orleans as they investigate and recover from this act of pure evil." the president-elect, in that statement, also said that criminals coming in are far worse than the criminals we have in our country, end quote. now, after there was some earlier reporting the suspect may have had a connection to the southern border, it turns out the truck, though, was spotted in eagle pass, texas, a border town, back in november. but with a different driver. but to be clear, this suspect was born in the united states. the president, expected to come back -- president biden expected to come back to the white house tomorrow to get more updates. it's possible he will speak again about this as more details are unveiled. tammy. >> all right, david. thank you very much. appreciate that. now tonight, authorities are
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also investigating another potential act of terror after a rented tesla cyber truck exploded in front of the trump hotel in las vegas. marianne rafferty is here with the latest details on that situation. marianne? >> good evening, tammy. just a few hours after that deadly terrorist attack in new orleans, the tesla cyber truck exploded and caught fire outside the trump towers in las vegas. a short time ago, elon musk posting this on x: we have now confirmed that the explosion was caused by very large fireworks or a bomb carried in the bed of the rented cyber truck and is unrelated to the vehicle itself. all vehicle telemetry was positive at the time of the explosion." sheriff kevin mcmayhill saying the truck exploded just before 9:00 this morning, injuring seven people, reportedly minor injuries, and killing the driver. mcmahill saying the tesla truck seemed to take the brunt of the blast with the glass front doors of the building still intact. this new drone video revealing the evidence in
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the back of the truck. >> so those are gasoline canisters. they are camp fuel canisters and large firework mortars. video, as you see that, it looks like the exterior of that truck is completely intact as it sits there. the fact that this was a cyber truck really limited the damage that occurred inside of the vale. >> law enforcement is investigating a number of leads but have not identified the person inside the vehicle. past the valet section of trump tower an hour prior to the incident and then returning and stopping at those front doors. the vehicle was stopped for approximately 15 seconds prior to the explosion. president biden, addressing the nation earlier this evening, reiterating that the incident is being investigated at the highest levels. the investigation is ongoing and we do expect to learn more in the coming hours. tammy? >> tammy: all right, marianne. yes, every minute, there's something new. thank you for that.
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appreciate it. now let's head back to new orleans, where we are learning even more details about today's terrorist attack. joining us now is the governor of louisiana, governor jeff landry. sir, thank you very much for being with us. obviously it's a horrible day for your state, for the country, and i appreciate you taking the time with us. you know, as we're all digesting this, through the day though, news keeps changing with what it is we know, what we don't know, but one thing you've done is declared essentially a state of emergency. can you tell us what that does for you, what it allows when it comes to response and even recovery and your initial thoughts you want to share with the nation in the midst of this? >> yeah. i think first and foremost, we want to remember that there are families mourning out there. there are victims still fighting for their lives in hospitals in new orleans. we've got two brave police officers, one that i believe is going to be released tonight, and one that
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hopefully will be released tomorrow. those two officers not only put their life on the line but certainly helped to eliminate and ensured the elimination of the threat, which could have been a lot worse. today we did sign an emergency declaration that helps us bring additional federal, state and local resources into the city. tonight, general freelieu brought entire company of military police officers to aid our louisiana state police and f.b.i. in securing the city, that's 100 military police officers that will be on the ground, in addition to sheriffs around the state who have offered deputies to come into the city to help us further secure the city so we can put the sugar bowl on tomorrow. >> that is something people thought originally you could do it tonight but clearly with the word that there perhaps were accomplices and unexploded or unfound
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i.e.d.s. but now some reports indicating the people they thought were accomplices were not. can you tell us anything more about what you and your state law enforcement knows about the security fthere are more people being sought if that was a mistake earlier on when it comes to looking for others who were involved? >> you know, tammy, it is an ongoing investigation. i know that people are desperately trying to get answers. i try not to offer speculation. it's counterproductive to these types of investigations. i will tell you that i have been speaking on an hourly basis with the f.b.i., not only here in new orleans but in washington, d.c. as well. they have been pouring resources into the city as we speak. more resources will be coming throughout the night and into the morning. those resources are twofold. one, to continue and complete this investigation as quickly as we can and get the public the answers that
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they're looking for and, two, to again secure the city as we put on a sugar bowl and notre dame and georgia play at 3:00 tomorrow. >> tammy: can you tell me, now, what new security measures are you implementings for the sugar bowl that weren't already being planned? we know that there was an issue with blockades for bourbon street. a lot of cameras there at bourbon street. i know that's going to help you. but that was an issue, when you were repairing some and were getting the area ready for perhaps more permanent security efforts. so what are you doing that was not originally planned for the sugar bowl? >> well, i'd rather not get into specific details, but what i will tell you is that we're looking at increasing the footprint, certainly making -- expanding the road closures throughout the day tomorrow. look, i think it's important to remember that the only way to really protect people from evil is to crush it, and the one person who knows
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how to do that is the incoming president, donald trump. and i believe that his nominee, christie gnome, understands that as well. i look forward to inauguration day so we put in place policies where we're putting handcuffs on the bad guys instead of our law enforcement. so again, look, i think that -- i feel very good about the direction that this investigation is going. i appreciate the f.b.i. and the resources that they're sending us. and we feel confident that we can put the game on tomorrow and get the city back up and running. >> good. well, we, the nation is praying for you, for people of new orleans, people of louisiana. what you've touched on is that leadership makes the difference, that americans look to leadership. we've already seen it from president trump and yes, 19 days before we have this change. governor landry, good luck and thank you very much for informing us here tonight. and again prayers out for you and everyone there. all right, now for more reaction and analysis, former f.b.i. special agent and fox news contributor
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nicole parker. been doing a great job much she's everywhere today. fortunately for us with great insight along with israeli special operations veteran aaron cohen and former nypd inspector and fox news contributor paul morrow, also someone who we've been relying on a great deal here today. nicole, let me start with you. we know that there is of course movement into louisiana, into new orleans. there seems to be, as we should expect with this, a little bit of contradictory information. with now the news that the supposed associates might have just been suspicious people. are you expecting this, in fact, to have a bigger footprint than just one lone wolf, or do you think that it's reasonable to think that it was just this one guy who was activated to do this particular act? >> tammy, that's a very great and important question, and obviously root now with the reports, you know, we had an f.b.i. assistant in
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charge who got at an official press conference and said they don't believe this individual was individually responsible. i do believe this was very well orchestrated. however, it was carried out very well orchestrated. we are focused on what happened in new orleans, rightfully so. my condolences go out to the 15 victims and their families. we cannot forget them. but i think also this story out in las vegas, we can't, you know, forget that either. i don't think it's an odd coincidence that in two different locations there were two cars that were rented out of state in both instances that were driven to a different state with explosions or, you know, wreaking havoc on, you know, society. again, i'm not saying that there is a definite link there but it is important to note. tammy, one thing i would like to bring up as a former f.b.i. agent, i left the f.b.i. there seemed to be a lack of focus on what the f.b.i. should be focused on and there is, you know,
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information out on the internet that is discussing a diversity agent recruitment event that occurred july 17th and in new orleans f.b.i. area. and, you know, that's not very comforting to americans right now as we are looking at this massive terrorist attack that occurred there. not saying that there's a direct link but the f.b.i. must be focused, all hands on deck, on the mission at handled. anything other than what the mission is is a distraction. in my opinion, a diversity agent recruitment event is a distraction. i worked the parkland school shooting. similar incident. christopher wray was in the f.b.i. miami division one week before the parkland school shooting and then the day after the execute shooting there was intelligence that said the f.b.i. knew about that shooter. i would like to see the f.b.i. focus all efforts on fighting crime and stopping terrorism and not focusing on diversity. it is a distraction and it is dangerous to the american people. >> tammy: it does. it sends a message, excellent point. paul, let me come to you because we just talked a bit
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ago with governor landry about the leader ship and the signaling that hams. you can anticipate how perhaps the city's going to respond or not respond or leadership is weak or if people are going to be easily made even more afraid. so it comes down to the messaging of that, the presumption that cities or certain police departments or the f.b.i. is not ready for this any more and that there isn't any leadership. you've been in new york during a number of issues, another episode very similar to the west side highway incident in 2017. a truck, mowing down dozens of people with an isis flag, a very similar footprint and messaging. what is your thought as we've now learned so much more through the day here today? >> one of the things we have to recognize is that, at the end of the day, it very often comes down to the local police departments to secure events. while it's the remit of the federal government to collect information from the high side classified side, push it down to those who need it, use the jttfs to
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inform those assets, at the end of the day it's going to be uniformed cops who are out there, the mayors, the police chiefs who are going to be responsible for putting together the prophylactic measures we need to keep things safe. now the unfortunate news is that you can never make things 100% safe. even in the incident thaw referenced, the new york city west side highway, was going for the halloween parade. couldn't get to it because of measures nypd had taken. he called inaudible and went to the west side highway and wrought havoc there. he found a way to do it. you do have to say to yourself there should have been maybe some more cognizance here of the fact the bollards were not in place, that this was going to be a very large event. rose bowl's up coming etc. and i have to say -- and, look. the blame game can come later. let's find out what happened now. but i have to say that press conference did not inspire confidence. the chief of police comes out and starts talking about fire is cleansing and all this stuff.
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>> weird, yeah. >> not a time for poetry. this is a time for telling us, are the bad guys out there and are they going to be apprehended? >> i have to say, aaron, the press conference out of las vegas was much more -- was very clear. they showed video of what was inside the tesla. there was i think blunt conversation about the nature of what had happened, being clear about what they didn't know and what they wouldn't discuss, but at the same time, you know, we've got, like, this strange -- i don't believe in coincidences when you talk about complex criminality here. truro was where both of these individuals, or at least both of these trucks, were rented. that is like an airbnb in a way for car rental. it's a peer-to-peer rental framework to where you're taking someone else's car and then bringing it back. when i think of the al-qaeda magazine that used to exist, where you could have
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instructions that go out to a variety of people. does this sound like perhaps the kind of things that would make terrorist attacks work in this new year? >> well, tammy, it appears to have worked here, and the fact that a lone wolf terrorist, who's clearly connected to isis, was able to, two weeks after the magdeburg car ramming terror attack, take a vehicle, drive it through a giant terror -- or through a giant new year's event in new orleans on bourbon street, and run down and kill 15 people with a stolen a.r. type of weapon i believe it was a 308 and a stolen glock, leads me to believe here that we have multifailures in our counter terrorist capabilities, and i want to point out what nicole said. there's a serious d.e.i. problem. clearly it hasn't just affected the secret service. it affected the f.b.i. as well. two, no intelligence sharing.
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three, where were the bollards? i think now is the time to point our finger because we have a serious problem in this country where an individual can go rogue, become radicalized and nobody in the federal government knows anything about this guy? nobody knew that he had stolen weapons and nobody knew that he was on his way to go commit an act of terror so that's a multifailure terror attack and we need to start getting in front much these. we need to start being proactive and it's time to stop messing around because those are real humans who were killed. those are real stories. we need to get in front of these again. >> tammy: this has been predicted. obviously hundreds of the terrorist -- you know, known terrorists or suspected terrorists on the watch list, into the country. millions of others who were unknown might not be on anybody's list. >> that's right. >> tammy: this is in a way inevitable. thank goodness things will change in 19 days, and even now with trump's leadership. it's got to start happening. everyone, thank you so much on this very heavy news day.
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[ ♪ ] >> tammy: welcome back to "hannity." on truth social, president-elect donald trump called today's terrorist attack in new orleans, quote, an act of pure evil. the perpetrator was a u.s. citizen from texas, but according to outgoing f.b.i. director, the threat from terrorism across the country is nearing an all-time high in part because of biden's border crisis. joining us now with more on how to improve our national security -- there's so much -- incoming czar tom --
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border czar, czar in general. tom, i'll make you the czar ofring. tom homan is with us. you know, you've got a lot on your plate. everyone we know is praying for new orleans. they're praying for you, president trump, everyone coming in, marco rubio much it's a whole team of people who now are going to have this country's back, thank god. but when you see this -- and biden's statement, three minutes long, not really encouraging, very strange kind of statements about, you know, who he was and that he was an american like that. it's very strange because now we have millions of people we don't know who they are. hundreds of people regarding the terrorist watch list, people who are dangerous who are roaming about. what do you think this says? is this going to be a normal occurrence or is this just the burst of a couple of rogue terrorists or coincidences? what's your take so far today? >> no. more is coming. i think both these incidents,
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las vegas and new orleans, they're both going to be u.s. citizens. >> they're both going to have recent foreign travel. they both were on a suicide mission. neither one thought they were going to go home and i think you're going to see isis affiliation on both of them. but, you know, the president bragged today, you know, this is u.s. citizen, american. he shouldn't hang his hat on that. let's remember just a couple months ago we arrested eight people from tajikistan new york city, philadelphia and l.a. they were planning a terrorist -- a russian type terrorist event here in united states. likely the intel community caught them before they did it. let's remember, two men got aways, known got-aways. border -- people monitor 80 countries. sponsor terror. under trump, we had 14. so i wouldn't hang his hat on these attacks being done by u.s. citizens. it's coming. even christopher wray who had very little respect said the southern border has the
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biggest national security he's ever seen. >> tammy: the inspiration of it. i think that was the al-qaeda magazine name. it's an inspiration for people. just the fact that there seems to be no one at home. no matter who you are or where you're coming in from, it inspires the bad actors. it's like, if you want to get something done now, this is the time to do it because no one's at home and you know trump is coming in 19 days, and that seems to be something that people -- the bad guys are concerned about, as they should be. >> well, look. they've been emboldened. look what this administration done. first of all relaxed sanctions inside iran. gave them billions more dollars they can fund terrorism. you see marches down new york city. streets of new york city, college campuses of people carrying isis flags and asking for the death of america and we allow this stuff to happen. this administration's tooken a weak stance on this stuff. southern border i'll mention
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again. tomorrow, i guarantee you this week they're going to continue to release thousands of people from the southern border either through the cpp1 app. fly them in from cuba, nicaragua, venezuela and haiti. border -- release thousands more. nothing's going to change tomorrow. this administration's not taken action against the criminal cartels and terrorists organizations or trying to secure our southern border. you can't have national security if you don't have border security. i don't know they -- i don't understand why they don't get that. i mean it's common sense. >> tammy: you know, and this is -- people are thinking about, you know, the nature of who comes across the border as you've mentioned. there's dozens of other countries, other than mexicans. o.t.m.s, as they call them, from china, from tajikistan, right, cuba and we're flying them in. it's a remarkable statement, without any vetting at this point. it's almost like a
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deliberate unforced error. like, you want this dynamic in here, and it's frightening. what will be some of the first day -- we always wonder what president trump will do on his first day for you, what is your first-day agenda? what are the first things you need to get rid of and do? like the app and dealing with some of the elements at the border. what's on yours fir -- on your first day agenda, first week, first day? >> i think day one, president trump's going to secure the border. i think at the same time we secure the border and we do that by ending ridiculous programs. chmv, cpp1 app the way it's being used now and catch and release. if you cross the border illegally you're going to be detained either that or removed. the law is clear. if you enter this country without proper documentation, you shall be deep tained. that's what the statute says. -- detained. not maybe. you shall be detained and that's what the trump administration will do. president trump is committed to that. we're going to start the
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biggest deportation operation ever seen. right out of the gate we're going to concentrate on public safety threats and national security threats. that's why i get angy when i see governors and mayors saying they're going to prevent this happening. >> tammy: exactly. >> remove public safety threats from the community? >> tammy: i mean that's it. it is their own constituents using them like pawns in an environment that ruins everyone's lives. this kind of crime, nobody knew who's -- all these people injured and the 15 murdered. we don't care about their political party. we don't care about whether they're black or white or gay or straight. they're americans or perhaps they're visitors. they're people having a good time. it transcends all of that and that's i know what you're focused on, what president trump is foe us -- cussed on as well. the 20th can't come soon enough. thanks for joining me tonight. for more reaction let's turn to former acting d.h.s. secretary chad wolf, another
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man who has been in the front line, who understands the nature of this -- really it's dangerous enough, chad, that america and that we are a free country. people can come in and visit us. [chuckles] some people are just, you know, mass murderers. already, the human condition. and then we've, like, poured gasoline. the biden administration's poured gasoline on this fire in this world, on our country. what is your -- when you see these two separate events, the tesla truck in vegas, the situation in new orleans. we had a few weeks ago a car ramming attack at a christmas market in germany. we know that, you know, there's attacks going on all over europe. what do you see now for the next 19, 20 days? is this the beginning of something more or is -- and do we just have to wait it out until trump becomes president? >> well, thanks for having me. look, i don't think this is
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the beginning nor the end. we're in the middle of it and we just go back to certain statements made by security officials including the f.b.i. director who talks about a heightened sense of threat environment that we have been in now for well over a year. and yet the biden administration is not rolling out any new security measures, as tom just indicated. their posture along that southern border remains the same. they do not change course, knowing that threats continue to come across that border each and every day. and while, you know, the new orleans perpetrator may have been a united states citizen, we don't know what kind of help he had. they're still looking for other suspects, whether they came across the border or into the country illegally in some manner is still yet to be determined. so i think all of this is very concerning, because the american people i don't think are being told the truth by their federal government of we've got a heightened security environment, threat environment, and we're just not taking the security precautions that we need to be.
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>> tammy: you know the first statement, one of the first statement from the f.b.i. in new orleans this morning, as we've all heard and have talked about, is that it was a statement -- determined statement definitive it was not terrorism. now, you can't know that, but what's interesting now as the day's gone on, we know that they saw the isis flag. and so you had the mayor at least being transparent saying yeah. it was terrorism. when you can draw that conclusion based on the style of the attack and frankly, right, the isis battle flag. what seemed to me the f.b.i., like with the fort hood dynamic as i'd mentioned earlier, that they tried to characterize as workplace violence. that's what obama tried to do. are we still -- clearly we seem to still be in that mode that their initial reaction was to deny that this was what it was. >> yeah. that initial reaction obviously is wrong. it's baffling to me that any member of the f.b.i. would
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come out and say such a thing when clearly that's not true and obviously the road support from the american people who are already skeptical of the f.b.i. and they should be because of statements like this and others that they have made in the past as well. look this also points to another -- obviously there's some issue that we have at the department of defense. we now have a couple of decades of experience where you have army soldiers here committing -- becoming radicalized and committing these type of terror attacks and they don't seem to be focused on it and you have to ask the question, because in 2021, the d.o.d. went after white supremacists inside the department of defense. >> tammy: right. >> have they taken their eye off the ball? i think have you to answer yes in this case. >> tammy: yeah. great point. on so many social issues seem to be obsessing the military, and now we've got -- we still are dealing with the nature of who's coming out of the military and their attitudes and if they've been rad clied. thank you so much for joining me, sir. i appreciate it. coming up senator bill
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cassidy will join us with more on the security and intelligence failures in new orleans and what we can expect moving forward. we'll be right back. stay right there as "hannity" continues. advil liqui-gels are faster and stronger than tylenol rapid release gels. ♪ also from advil, advil targeted relief, the only topical with 4 powerful pain fighting ingredients that start working on contact and lasts up to 8 hours.
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[ ♪ ] >> tammy: all right. welcome back to "hannity" tonight. a major security failure is causing concern across new orleans. as it turns out, barriers protecting the french quarter from a vehicular terrorist attack were not in place last night as officials were in the process of replacing the city's safety infrastructure ahead of the super bowl. unfortunately, shamsud-din jabbar was reportedly able to breach the temporary barriers with ease and wage terror on new orleans. joining us now, louisiana
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senator bill cassidy. so, you know, we spoke -- thanks for joining me, sir. we spoke with the governor. i broached this a little bit, but it seems that, you know, some of the most -- for americans watching this, it was a very basic kind of thing that you would have up, and yet we were also focused on new year's eve in new york. i've argued for quite some time that we get a tunnel vision thinking that new york is the only target, whereas in fact every great american city, every walk of life in this country needs to beware. what are your thoughts after a day like today? >> tammy, you nailed t.people say eoh, my gosh. the super bowl's going to be in new orleans. i tell them it doesn't matter what city the super bowl is in, you've got a lot of soft targets and it's going to be relatively easy for someone who's motivated and creative to hit those. new york of course after 9/11 they're still aware of it but other cities perhaps
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not so much. you just assume you block the street and people won't drive on the sidewalk. turns out wrong assumption. that's what the guy did. that's how the guy killed 15 people. but you nailed it. it's every city that has that -- that should have that concern now. >> tammy: and just i think a few weeks before, if not a month maybe in november, but there was a shooting at a parade in new orleans. the new orleans p.d.and the state, the city, they understand. there's been a violence issue. so this wasn't, in a way, out of the blue. and that's, i think, what breaks the heart. new orleans people love new orleans. it's a special city for americans and for people around the world. the video that we've been seeing, a woman standing in shock. video from a balcony and she's standing in shock over what would appear to be a body that we have blanked out. but the lives ruined, the lives ended, the lives ruined that will never be the same. it's the kind of thing that
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isis and al-qaeda thrive on and thirst for. and we should be able to protect, you know, soft targets. we do worry also but we want to be a free country and we don't want to, you know, ruin people's fun, and then we've got the sugar bowl tomorrow. what are your thoughts about the degree of security that should be there? >> first let me start where you started. i think you're absolutely right. any time there is a street festival in a city, you're going to have soft targets. any time you have large groups of people kind of crossing from one side to the other. i'm in washington, d.c. one day and they're having a parade july fourth a few years ago or something like that, and there's just people lining the streets. someone highly motivated could have come in and caused damage. by the way, d.v.has closed circuit tv all over the place. the police would be right there. but there was 300 police officers in the french quarter last night. >> tammy: yes, true, true.
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>> a highly motivated, creative person couldn't stop that. now that said -- and again you nailed it, too. in a free society, in a free society, we give up a little bit of security because otherwise, who wants to go from one checkpoint to the other? but every now and then you pay the price for that freedom. al-qaeda hates our freedom. >> tammy: the inspiration that comes from the defund the police movement, the demonizing of law enforcement, the lack of leadership at the federal level, the open border whether you're coming across the border or not. there's so many messages that america doesn't care about itself. you know, just like in new york. yes, the police are everywhere, but we've had a guy pushed under a train just yesterday, a woman set on fire in the subway. there's messaging, it seems, sir, for people who are ready to tip over, you know, the assassination attempts on president trump, that do it because nobody cares.
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won't leadership make a difference here? >> it will. by the way, way back when, there was an essay or a study a broken windows theory. >> tammy: right. >> and it found that, if you tolerated little crimes, you ended up with big crimes that followed. if you didn't tolerate the little crimes, the big crimes didn't come as much. so if you tolerate a little graffiti, you get a lot of graffiti. if you erase it as soon as it comes up, you stop getting graffiti. >> tammy: yeah. >> society point being leadership needs to say that we're not going to tolerate the crime, that the soft on crime district attorneys, wherever you are, need to be replaced. the blue state, the blue cities that have been soft on crime, they're paying the price. and i think we're getting bigger crimes because of it. i can't say this wouldn't have happened this. guy was, you know, very activated by isis apparently. >> tammy: sure. >> but a lot of our other crime problems can end. >> tammy: yeah, indeed. a lot of work to do but we are ready to get going on that. sir, thank you very much for joining me tonight.
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[ ♪ ] >> tammy: welcome back to "hannity." tonight, americans are on edge and rightfully so, after more than a dozen were killed and dozens more were seriously injured by a deranged terrorist. joining us now, fox news contributor sara carter, the host of tomi lahren is fearless on outkick. tomi lahren. she's got the same name as her show. fox news contributor charlie hurt. tomi, let's start with you. what are your thoughts after a day like today? >> first of all, my thoughts and prayers go out to everybody that is impacted both in las vegas and of
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course in new orleans. i can't imagine the hurt those cities must be feeling after a day like today. but i'd also like to say, after watching this coverage today, the average american is really frustrated and i'll tell you why. our entire nation is a soft target when you've got an absentee president who seems like he's on a perpetual vacation comes out and gives us a statement, doesn't answer questions and just scuttles off into the corner. then you've got an open border where you allow millions of people in four years to come across largely unindividual and disperse into the shadows. our whole country is a soft target when you allow people to go into the streets of new york hours after a terrorist attack and preach about a global ent fada revolution? talk about a soft target. we've opened ourselves up for this and i hope this is a giant wake-up call. january 20th is coming but i fear for our nation and we'd better get back on track. >> tammy: thank goodness. american people, we kind of saw what was happening. we understand this is a risk for an open society and,
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tomi, as you've said, there's no leadership. sara, you're always focused on the border. we see this as a core point about our security but this guy's an american citizen, right? this is about radicalization in every aspect of our our country and our infrastructure. >> absolutely, tammy. and we shouldn't feel secure. i'd have to agree with tomi because we are a soft targ. our entire nation is. i've been covering the border for more than 20 years. i spent a good portion of that overseas in the war zones in iraq covering islamic state as well as covering taliban and al-qaeda in afghanistan. that's where i spent a lot of my time. on top of covering narco terrorists. we are a soft target. we just become very at ease. we forget they are out there, that we have. >> anne:my willing to target us. we have an f.b.i. that has not done its job. we failed to share
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information between our bureaucracys and we've missed many, many points that could have led to the cap turl of these people. nadal hassan was a perfect example. in the u.s. army in 2009. he was radicalized. he was a therapist. he comes into the center and begins to shoot people at fort hood. thirteen people dead, dooz -- dozens more wounded. january 20th can't come soon enough. that i agree with but we have to realize we're all a part of this and remain vigilant. >> tammy: yes, we do. charlie hurt, your thoughts, sir. >> i agree with all of that. most -- i think it's kind of interesting to listen to some of these officials try to bandy about the fact that this perpetrator, this terrorist attack is an american citizen and somehow that makes it different. i don't think that it -- if
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anything, if you ask me, it makes it worse. i think that it reveals just how pernicious this evil ideology is that he and a lot of other people hold and, you know, their number one target is the united states of america, as you point out, tammy, because we are an open society, because we're a society that values freedom and believes in the goodness of people and the ability to sort of operate in and tolerate one another and have differences and work through them. but this ideology is so evil and so demented and it's so at cross wise from everything we believe as a country. the idea that this guy could have lived his entire life in america and then served 20 years in the military and we didn't ever figure out that this guy was a ticking time bomb. >> tammy: yeah. >> and that this guy was plotting something like this, and then you have a president of united states and the f.b.i. that
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repeatedly talks about how the biggest threat, terrorist threat to america is white supremacy. it's like no wonder this happened. >> tammy: we've gotta go. but i just remember donald trump wiped out isis and here they are again. all of you, thank you so much for joining me tonight. more "hannity" after the break. stay with me can neuriva support your brain health? mary. janet. hey! eddie. no! fraser. frank. frank. fred. how are you? support up to seven brain health indicators, including memory. when you need to remember, remember neuriva.
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." [ ♪ ] >> that is all the time we have left more this evening, thank you for being with us, stay with the fox news channel for continuing coverage of the terror attack in new orleans and i want to thank sean and everyone for having me tonight. and remember, terrorism's meant to make you afraid. my new book is meant to help you overcome that. "fear itself," wherever books are sold. thank you, everyone, i'll see you next time. have a great night united states of america is still the greatest country on a special edition of jesse watters prime time. i'm
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