rick: all right, what are we doing? go. rachel: by the way, she was a former cpa, now she's a zumba instructor, and she lost 60 pounds. whoo! rick: this got really hard. so much more difficult. [laughter] wait, yeah. see you tomorrow. david: fox on top of the new orleans terror attack the probe a ramping up as new evidence is

uncovered. and how the the city is hit with hits first lawsuit in the wake of that attack. reaction from louisiana attorney general is here. and that dramatic battle for the gavel might be over after mike johnson is reelected house speaker. but does the rocky road it took to get there signal trouble for republicans' very slim majority? house freedom caucus chair andy harris is with us and new york republican congressman mike lawler. they will weigh in. plus, what a new york judge is suggesting about president-elect donald trump's sentencing only days before his inauguration. and a live look from georgia as the first phase of president jimmy carter's memorial services begin today. welcome; everyone. happy weekend. i'm david asman, and you are watching "fox news live." we begin with madison scarpino in new orleans with the latest on the new year's terror attack and the if first lawsuit that's been filed.

madison. >> reporter: yeah, good morning, david. a local law firm representing one of the survivors of this attack says that if -- the nopd and the city could have prevented this tragedy. it's going to be filing the lawsuit on wednesday, if we're told that this could be the first of several lawsuits filed against the city. now, the firm says that the people impacted by wednesday's attack deserve answers, and their lives are now forever changed. the firm says in part, quote: the evidence will demonstrate that the act of terror perpetrated by shamsud-din jabbar was both foreseeable and preventable. jabbar exploited the nopd's gross negligence resulting in a horrific act that is now etched into the archives of our great city's history. because of the negligence of the nopd and the city of new orleans, 14 innocent lives were lost, and the city was warned something like this could happen. for years several security

reports said french quarter crowds are a risking for mass casualty events. we know that typical barriers that are in place here were not because of super bowl preparations. and the fbi is now returning to jabbar's houston, texas, home. we're also learning jabbar set fire to his new orleans rental property to conceal evidence. and the fbi says bomb-making materials were found in both locations. meanwhile, the fbi and dhs sent out a joint bulletin to 18,000 law enforcement agencies nationwide warning those to be hyper-vigilant of copycat attacks after the one here in new orleans. and, david, we are expecting there to be several vigils today, and then on monday we now know that the president joe biden and the first lady are expected to be here to mourn with survivors and families of those who were killed. i'll send it back to you with. david: madison, thank you very much for that. well, how was this suspect not on the radar, and how could

something like this be prevented in the future? the let's ask former fbi investigator bill daley. so many problems with this investigation. of course, before the terror attack there were problems, but the first person from the fbi, the former agency for which you work, was a fbi special agent who definitively said this was not a terror attack. obviouslying that was a terrible thing to have said before the evidence was in because it did turn out to be a terror attack. is the investigation back on traffic -- track specifically with the fbi's role in it? >> i actually do think it is on track, and it is unfortunate one spurious comment by one representative of the fbi said that when with, in fact, there was evidence that was coming on the heels of that which suggested with a flag at the back of the vehicle that it wasn't. put that aside for a second, the investigation is continuing. in fact, you talk about early

warning signs. it appears as even below the surface here that there were no early, early warning signs perhaps. perhaps. there is a trip of his to egypt in 2023. we're not too sure about why he went there, how it was funded, who he met, if it was for pleasure or other nefarious purposes. so they're investigating that. however, as far as the other things, david, different than in the past was people see this trail of bread crumbs, this kind of leakage, as they would say, in the behavioral analysis world. only hours before he actually committed the act things were posted so it doesn't appear at this point there were early warning signs that would have put him on the radar, watch list or would have caused for someone to interviewed seed. david -- intercede. david: the first reports suggested there were co-conspirators. i know the fog of war, you hear a lot of misinformation during those first few hours.

but this was such specific information about how these co-conspirators were allegedly planting ie dereks. where do you think that came from? because it, clearly, didn't pan out. >> yeah. unfortunately, david, i think, as you said, kind of the fog of war. and the press conference actually hearing what was suggested both by the bureau, by local law enforcement that, in fact, there were some other people. i think what gave credence to that was the fact that there were these ie dereks -- ieds planted around the city. it appeared to be orchestrated with regard to preparing the ieds, having a weapon that he used to assault police with as he got out of the vehicle. so a number of things in place kind of suggested there may be other people that gave him some type of support whether there on the ground, during the incident or preplanning. obviously, right now that appears the not be the case and appears to be kind of a lone wolf actor. something unfortunately, david, now almost a quarter century after 9/11, we're still

fighting, we're still concerned about inspired people, people being directed by foreign terrorist organizations and, unfortunately, the fight needs to continue. david: absolutely. it's been about that long since i've known you, bill, and it's amazing how much as has changed but in some ways still terrorists can always find a way to get many if there. it only takes one mistake for them to get in and do their damage. bill daley, great to see you, my friend. happy new year. to capitol hill now where republican mike johnson has been reelected as house speaker after running into some opposition early on in the voting process. chad pergram breaking down the dramatic battle, as he always does, on capitol hill. chad. >> reporter: a new speaker, but there was drama. house speaker mike johnson won on the first ballot, but three members held out. thomas massie of kentucky voted for majority whip tom emmer. keith self of texas supported byron donalds. and ralph norman backed jim jordan of.

however, a phone call from president-elect trump compelled self and norman to change their vote. >> he just said mike johnson is the only one that's got the support among the body to become speaker. we went into meetings. meeting off the floor, and i said, mike, are you going to give us specific examples of fighting for the things we we mentioned? will you give us your word? he said, yeah. >> reporter: the vote underscores how tough it could be for the go gop to manage its majority, that could cause problems passing the agenda. >> this is going to be a long family road trip over the course of the next two years and a period of time of narrowly divided government where we have a 2-seat majority and sometimes possibly less. >> reporter: johnson told lawmakers it's time to get to work. >> in recent months we've witnessed something happening, something that's really remarkable, a political moment in our modern history, a groundswell of americans from every state, race and religion

who now demand that we put the the interest of americans first again. and and we will. [applause] we will. >> reporter: house republicans traveled to fort mcnair in washington for a set of meetings about using a special parliamentary tool called budge reconciliation the pass their agenda. reconciliation deals mostly with spending and taxes, but it can bypass a senate filibuster: david? david: chad, thank you very much for that. the house free come caucus backing -- freedom caucus speaking out saying they did it for president-elect donald trump. republican chair andy harris, who is also a physician -- about which more later -- joins me now. congressman, thank you very much for being here, appreciate it. what exactly was it about that phone call from the president, the president-elect, that convinced the holdouts, the rebels to come onboard? >> well, it was more than just a phone call, it was that mike johnson convinced us that he is going to make some structural

changes into how the republican congress works so that we can more certainly advance the president's agenda. we all knew the president was onboard with mike johnson, but we had to hear that there were going to be some changes to how business was done that'll make it much more likely we can get all the republicans onboard for the president's agenda. david: now, was this kind of a foreshadowing of the way things will work for the regular business of congress as we get going on january 20th? that is, president trump, if there's something that he decides needs to be changed in the process, he'll make the phone calls and do due diligence and make it happen? if. >> that's right. and if he should. i mean, he was elected with a mandate, won all the a seven swing states. obviously, americans are sick and tired of what's going on on the southern border. they wanted are relief from high gas prices, from terror threats. they want us to move ahead, and the president's going to move us there, and he's going to do what it makes to move us in that direction. that. david: well, there's one thing

that people have been hearing from the president-elect, and i'm dig in particular of our friend -- thinking in particular of our friend larry kudlow. what he wants in terms of the reck sill illinois -- reconciliation bill, he wants one big, beautiful bill where you have not only the border security issues, but also the tax extensions. is it possible to get all of that in one reconciliation bill as the first order of business? >> well, it can't be the first order of business. it took us months to do the first tax cuts bill nine years ago. the bottom line is if that's what the9 president wants, he's going to of to wait for the summer to get ironed out. there are a group of to us that support breaking it up into two pieces, the first where we give the president the monies that he needs to secure our southern border and start deporting illegal criminal aliens. finish. david: but, congress bank, when was the last -- congressman, when was the last time we had two reconciliation bills in one year? if i'm not mistaken, it was back in the '90s, wasn't it?

>> we actually had two attempts during president trump's first term, but they were obamacare and, ultimately, the tax cuts and jobs act. this would be very different. this would be taking one little piece out, passing it quickly. the president needs appropriations in order to to begin securing our southern border. buying back the wall that this administration sold off, things like that. the president needs some funds now, and that's the quickest way to do it, and that's the way, again, a group of us think we should do that. safing the large big, beautiful bill til the summer when -- because it will take time to iron out. david: yeah. but, you know, at the end of this year those, that 2017 tax bill which was enormously successful not only in terms of generating more economic activity, but it made $1.5 trillion in extra revenue that came in as a result of the economic activity. that the expires at the end of this year. if you get dangerously close to that expiration date and taxes

go up in the beginning of 2026, you're going to have a tough time keeping the house. >> if quell -- well, my prediction is they won't go up. and, honestly, if you separate them into two bills, you can actually work on both bills con currently. you know, we can walk and chew gum at the same time although sometimes it doesn't seem that way in congress. we could do it, and we could deliver that tax a package well before the end of the year, but we -- we do have to get border monies and perhaps even national security moneys into this administration d 2k5eu david yeah. but we also -- americans voted not only for border security, but even above that was more money in their pockets, and small businesses in particular need to have that assurance. going forward. i want to the switch gears though. as a physician, i'd like to know what you think about what rfk jr. has planned for the health situation in this country. he wants to make america healthy again, as he said, but one of those issues is ads on television for drugs. do you support that this vision

that he has? >> i support a lot of what his vision is whether it's, again, removing hose ads from the television the -- those ads from the television. look, you can get that information from your doctor, you don't need it from madison avenue. and the other thing that we need to do is we need to stop spending america's hard-earned taxpayer dollars on junk food in the food stamp program, for instance. it's crazy. on the back end, we're paying to treat diabetes, hypertension, and on the front end we're buying the foods that we know lead to that. david: and very quickly, one of your colleagues, former colleagues at johns hopkins, marty makary, dr. marty makary, is going to be the head of the fda. what do you think about how he'll do there? >> i know dr. makary from when i was at hopkins. he's a very intelligent person. he -- i think he'll do a great job there. again, he will help deliver part of rfk jr.'s make america

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david: president jimmy carter's family is gathering at the sumter medical center as the first phase of his memorial services begin. david spunt is in plains, georgia, where the motorcade is going to be heading. david. >> reporter: hey, david. about 10 minutes away from boot motor cead -- motorcade will begin. the presidential seal on the side of the hearse that will carry the body of the late

29th -- 39th president of the united states. there's several hundred people behind me that have been gathering to get one final look at their hometown hero here, jimmy carter. want to show you a live look at jimmy carter's boyhood home in archery which is a small, little village about 5 minutes from here, and that is where he grew up. he grew up there, he grew up on the farm. he was the only president to go and graduate from the u.s. naval academy. studied under the famed add more rickover and could have had a distinguished career but chose to come back the plains, georgia, to help his father's peanut business after his father passed away. jimmy carter is plain, and plains is jimmy carter. people here for 50 years have been used to seeing media here at different events, but this may be the last week where they see a lot of media in the future. still, people are celebrating many a way to honor jimmy carter. as you know and as you'll be mentioning soon about the the

habitat for humanity, jimmy carter built homes for years and got to know another man here who was local, millard fuller. both love loved plains and habitat for humanity and helping people. david? david: thank you very much. president carter is remembered not only for his time in office, but also for the volunteer work he did after leaving the white house which david was just talking about, especially with has been at for humanity. my next guest worked side by side with carter building homes around the world for 15 years. a habitat for humanity ceo jonathan reckford joins me now. jonathan, thanks so much for being here, really appreciate it. how did president carter first in -- get in touch with the folks at habitat? >> he met volunteers and staff who came to his church. and then the inflection point was actually in 1984 he did some local volunteering, but the world really found out about habitat for humanity when he and mrs. carter and a bus withload

of volunteers came up from south georgia, slept in a church basement and spent a week rehabbing a tenement building on the low lower east side of manhattan. no one had ever seen a former president of the united states behave that way, and that started what became a 36-year run of the carters going somewhere in the world every year x. that brought so much attention to the cause and need for dean, affordable housing -- decent, affordable housing. while most people think president carter started habitat, that's not true, but he put it on the map. david: yeah. he spotlighted it like nobody if other. and he was hands on. a lot of celebrities give live lip service to various charities. god bless them, that's good to do so, but he loved to do the work, right? i mean, were the folks at habitat surprised by that? >> you know, knowing him, i don't think so. finish he had that depression era, incredible work ethic, and he's a skilled carpenter as

well. he took it very seriously. and for him, when we were on the site. it was all about building a great rouse for the -- for the house -- david: jonathan, forgive me for interrupting, but i do just want to mention what's happening. this is the casket of the former president leaving the medical center there in americus, georgia, and we will continue to cover it. go ahead, i didn't mean to interfere with what you were saying, jonathan. >> no, not at all. what i was saying is he would always say, look, we're here to work, and we're going to have a great time. but let's be clear, if you come up and ask for a photo, you're not working, i'm not working, and the person holding the camera's not working, so we're not going to do that. he would also at the end of the week do a photo toe with each of the houses, and he would sign a bible and give it the each of the homeowner families and spend a little time with each family at the end of the week.

i think that connection and that feeling of community were a big part of what kept the carters coming back every year. david: until what age was he still a hands-on helper with what you were doing, building these houses? >> you know, it's pretty amazing, the only thing that stopped him turned out to be the pandemic. his last build with us was in to 20 the 19 in nashville, tennessee, and he was 95. we built the the week of his 995th birthday. david: unbelievable. >> he was legendary, it was really sad. the morning that build was supposed to start, he pell and if hit his head and had to get stitches, and he showed up and said i'm building. he came to the build, built every day with a bandage on his head and a black eye. that was such an image of servant leadership. david: by the way, for those who wish to live a long life, and who doesn't, very few people don't wish to live a full life, i mean, this shows that if you have a purpose and if you, if it's a hands-on purpose, it really can help you live a

longer life and a happier one. >> i think the data's actually overwhelmingly clear that purpose, faith and relationships are actually the key drivers to the a long and happy life. david: yeah. as i believe it was mother angelica once said, she said the key to happiness is not think, it's -- thing, it's a way of life. and i've got to say certainly after his presidency, he had that way of life. by the way, they're giving me -- telling me to run, but i just, final question, is there any other public figure who can replace him and what he did for the habitat? >> you know, there's no replacing president carter. but i think the good news is because of his incredible example and and all the people he has inspired, you know, habitat was helping understand of families when he joined. we've now helped over 62 million people. david: wow. >> the great news is his legacy will be the continued work in country after country. david: yeah. god bless him. god bless the the work you do, jonathan reckford, and we thank

you so much for being here. thanks a million. as we will follow president carter's mote motorcade as -- motorcade as it stops by his boyhood home. so much more on this throughout the hour. and then louisiana's attorney general is coming up on the terror attack investigation. what went wrong and what is her reaction to the first lawsuit having been filed against the city of new orleans? that's up. if

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♪ ♪ david: well, we are going back to georgia. that is the slow moving at this point funeral cortege of the carter family. this is from the phoebe sumter medical center in am if ericus, georgia, going the to various spots along the former president's life. of course, plains, georgia, will be the endway. you're looking live now at the

phoebe sumter medical center where any minute the former president's motorcade is set to depart for the hometown of plains, georgia. the 39th president remembered for his time in and out of office. my next guest had the opportunity to meet president carter on several to occasions over shared love of country music. dan rogers is the executive producer, seniorer vp of the grand ole opry, and he joins me live from the iconic music venue. what a pleasure to talk to you. i've got to say, the grand ole opry, isn't it exactly the same age as the former president, 100 years old? and i'm just wondering, so that means that the president through his entire life, essentially, grew up with the grand ole opry. >> so we were able to to honor the president last october for his 100th birthday and, believe it or not, just last night we kicked off our official 100th birthday celebration, our

official date the will be 11/28/25. so for a bit there, we were both 100 years old, and it was a real pleasure to honor president carter last october. david: he grew up listening it the -- to it. i'm a lifelong blue grass fan, by the way, bill monroe, doc watson, the real kings and queens of country music were on grand ole oply. then you had comedians like minnie pearl as well, the great median. she was the woman with the big old hat on her head which still had the price tag hanging off of it. it was a whole show. and they did it on radio. they actually described the scene on radio pretty well. that's what jimmy carter grew up listening to to. >> yeah. he knew the opry from it early days when, frankly, radio was new to today when he or anyone

around the world could reach into their pocket, pull out their phone and if listen to the opry almost seven nights a week wherever you are in the world. so really jimmy carter's life parallelled that of the opry from, you know, a small beginning to really being known around the world and making a difference around the world. david: now, as a result of watching it on t, i picked up a banjo and have been a lifelong banjo player. did he pick up any instrument to go along with his joy of country music? >> i have never heard of that. larry gatlin was asked that the other day and said he didn't know about it. but -- and i don't think that's the case in that anytime president carter talked about music, it was about his and his wife's appreciation of music. david: well, if anybody if would know, it'd be harry gatlin. by the way, is larry and other musicians getting together this week? i understand there's something going if on tonight and will be

for the next five or six days in memory of the former president, right? >> so tonight we'll, of course, have an opry performance, and we'll be dedicating a the performance of the grand ole opry the president jimmy carter who was a great opry fan and talked about the opry lots of different places he went. it was the our honor to host him here for the final time when he was here in nashville for the habitat for humanity build where, of course, he was a part of building 20 the homes for folks in our community. after that week of hard work, he and mrs. carter came and celebrated the the week that friday night if here at the opry and were entertained by the likes of emmy lou harris and -- david: you just mentioned one of my favorite country singers of all time. [laughter] god bless. well, if there's any way to enjoy life after a hard day of working, it's with the grand ole opry are. thank you so much for being here and have a wonderful week.

we look forward to what comes out of the opry coming up this week. thanks a million. >> thanks so much. david: absolutely. well, lawmakers making a new push for swift confirmations of president-elect donald trump's national security team in the wake of that deadly new year's day terror attack in new orleans. fox's nate foy is live in west palm beach, florida, with a lot more on this. nate. >> reporter: hey, david, good morning. a big win for president-elect donald trump yesterday after helping secure the house speakership for mike johnson. but coming in the days and weeks ahead are more fights to confirm his cabinet picks in the senate, particularly in roles related to our national security, as you mentioned, after that terror the attack in new orleans this week. here is trump's incoming martial security adviser mike waltz. national security adviser. >> this is why getting trump's cabinet in is so important. this is a moment in transition of vulnerability, and president trump is going to project -- because he is -- a leader of

strength. the narrative that we project on day one will be just as important x that's having our people in place. >> reporter: so coming up if ten days, david, trump's pick for defense secretary, pete hegseth, face the public questioning from are if u.s. senators. this will be the first cabinet confirmation hearing. but other picks to watch include tulsi gabbard for correcter of national intelligence and kash patel for fbi director. florida senator rick scott urged republicans to unite behind trump's picks. >> we have got to get his team in place because something's got to change. the american public has completely lost trust with hair federal government. especially -- their federal government. especially the federal law enforcement agencies. >> reporter: so trump the himself said this week republicans need to be smart and tough. he warned that democrats are going to try all sorts of the tricks starting very soon, but republicans must not allow them to do that. now, trump is also reacting on truth social today regarding the upcoming sentencing in his new

york criminal case that will happen next friday. he is reiterating his innocence saying that he did not commit any crime and that he was politically persecuted by a corrupt judge who was doing the bidding of the biden administration's department of justice. we'll send it back to you, david. david: yep, it's called lawfare. nate, thank you very much for that. coming up, the new year's day terror attack in new orleans, a lot of questions mounting. louisiana attorney general liz murrill's first reaction to that first lawsuit that has just been filed against the city of new orleans: and we are continuing to follow former president jimmy carter's motorcade as it is set to arrive in front of his boyhood home in archery, georgia, and will then make its way to atlanta as the nation way to atlanta as the nation remembers the 39th president. if thanks for swingin' by, carl. no problem. so, what are all of those for? ah, this one lets me adjust the bass. add more guitar. maybe some drums.

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♪ ♪ david: president carter's

motorcade will be a arriving in plains, georgia, shortly and stopping by his childhood home in archery, which is sort of in the same district, where bells will toll to honor him. how will history remember his presidency? his time in office was with marked by camp david accords, the iranian hostage dry sis and a strug -- crisis and a struggling economy. craig shirley interviewed the president during the 1980 presidential campaign, is and he joins me now. craig, great to see you. i want to read something, a lot of people say what could donald trump and jimmy carter have in common if well, the president-elect has mentioned that and is honoring jimmy carter. he says the challenges jimmy faced as president came at a pivotal time for our country, and he kid everything in his power to to improve the lives of all americans. for that, we we all owe him a debt of gratitude. i think that was not only generous, but it also pointed to

the fact that kind of like today, a lot of americans at the time had sort of lost in government. this was in the shadow of watergate, 1976. we had a couple of years since president nixon had resigned, but we still didn't have a lot of faith in our government. so there were parallels to that time and this one, no? >> yes, i agree. but also, david, i think we have to remember that we are a great country, and because we're a great country, we also have great problems. we also have great solutions. jimmy carter came along at a time, you know, we had 17 long, horrible years starting with the assassination of john kennedy, continuing with the loss in vietnam and the failed presidency of lyndon johnson, watergate, as you mentioned, richard nixon and then gas lines and high inflation. he came along at a very bad time in america, and he was, you know, some men are overwhelmed by times, some men make their

times. he was, unfortunately, he came to washington with the best of intentions. he was going to reorganize government, he was going to cut taxes. he really came -- became somewhat of a populist conservative in 1976. david: yeah. >> but he was still overwhelmed by events in many ways. david: you know, it's interesting you mention that, because even some conservatives will grudgingly credit the former president with the fact that he was a deregulator. he did carry that through even to the end of his presidency. i mean, he appointed a guy named al khan to head up to a -- a horrible agency called the civil aeronautic es agency that was a price control for airlines, and he sort of told al khan because i used to know him, he passed away, but he said president carter told me that we want to get rid of this bureaucracy. so he kind of gave a blueprint to the doge committee, right? >> you're absolutely right. we also deregulated trucking -- david: yes. >> -- which led to the teamsters

endorsing ronald ray garre -- reagan for president many 1980. david: but it was largely viewed, the presidency, as a failure. of course, it was a one-term presidency and for good reason. the economy was in the doldrums. we had stagflation at that time. >> right. david: then you had the iranian hostage crisis which was really the nail in the coffin of his presidency, no? >> yes, i agree. but, you know, david, the one thing we need to mention, the one really significant if contribution of this presidency was the introduction of human rights to the national, international debate and equation. before carter's presidency, foreign policy was judged by national borders, war, peace, trade, things like that. carter was the first one to the put sunlight on human rights abuses especially by the soviet union with their gulags and psychiatric hospitals. and if he embarrassed the soviets. but it was a great thing he did

because now human rights are always or part of the foreign policy equation. and it's to jimmy carter's credit that he introduced that to the equation. david: i don't want to disagree with you too much because you're absolutely right on that. i remember pat dare yen when was the first human rights coordinator in the state department, but it did lead to a certain peeve fit at -- peevety at times and one of those was trusting the sandinistas in nicaragua, and that led to years, even decades, even now daniel ortega's running that country. so there were pluses and minuses to that, no in. >> absolutely. there was naivete when it came to his trusting of foreign leaders, not backing the is shah a strongly enough in iran and other examples. david: yeah. but i am glad that a we're all gathering, the in particular remembering the days after his presidency. he did more to honor the presidency in the 40 years after

his presidency many would say. but it was -- he was a very good man in many ways, and we do honor him today. >> yes. david: craig shirley, thank you so much for giving us your perspective. i appreciate it. the motorcade is set to arrive outside of plains, georgia, in just moments. we will take you there live as it happens. and a lit little later on, speaker mike johnson holding on to his gavel last week, but it didn't come without a fight. new york republican congressman mike lawler on what is next. that's coming up. [applause]

♪ ♪ cade david former president jimmy carter's motorcade making its way through plains, georgia. out will be pausing -- it will be pausing outside his boyhood home in archery. they're both kind of in the same district. in archery you will hear a bell toll 39 times. after that, it will make its way to atlanta. of course, he was the 39th president, thus the ringing. david spunt is in plains, georgia, following the movements. david, what's the latest? >> reporter: well, jimmy carter is plains, and plains is jimmy carter. several hundred people out here to watch this motorcade, the body of the former president, the 39th president of the united states, passed by just moments

ago here on this main drag in plains. you can see right here plains is a small town. plains is a town that welcomed jimmy carter back after he was president of the united states during that one term in washington. i want to show you a live look right now at his home in archery, his boyhood home, i should say. archery, as you mentioned, it's maybe five minutes away from here, but this is his home. this is where he grew up, and this is where you see members of the national park service standing by ready to to honor him with a bell tolling that will toll 39 times to honor the 39th presidency of the united states. at that point the motorcade's going to continue on to atlanta, david. it's going to take a few hours. they're going to stop in some other little towns on the way that had significance to and rosalynn carter, the late first lady. then governor brian kemp will step outside of the capitol and pay his respects, and then the motorcade will continue on to the carter center in atlanta where the 39th president will lie in repose for the next

several days before flying to washington, d.c., and then there'll be a ceremony if at the national cathedral. before that he'll lie in state inside the u.s. capitol for a couple of days. then after the national cathedral, the body will be flown back here to georgia, and he will have one final ceremony if at the baptist church, a church that he helped found, and then he'll be laid to rest on his property with his beloved wife, rosalynn carter. david? david: david spunt, thank you so much. my next guest befriended the 39th president while working with him at the boys and girls' club of albany, georgia. the former ceo marvin laster joins me now. i know his relationship with the boys and girls club goes back decades, but you were summoned to see him just relatively recently, back in 2018. you were summoned the go to his house. explain what happened. >> absolutely. thank you for having me on the show, first of all. and my prayers go out to the

entire carter family9 and the plains community. i was summoned by at that time his secretary, miss peggy. i got a phone call one friday to say, hey, are you available to meet with president and mrs. if carter at their home today? and i said, absolutely. i only have one caveat, can i bring my board president along with me, and they agreed. we went through our secret service check, and we pulled up and got to the front door can of the house k and he opened the door, and he said, hi, i'm jimmy carter. i'm like, jeez with, i know who you are. [laughter] you don't know who i am. so we went into the house, and we stood in what i would call the living room. and my board president and i looked at each other, we were unsure where to sit. and he said you can sit anywhere in here but don't sit right there because that's where roz-in is going to sit. [laughter] -- rosalynn. and she came in with her notebook and pad, and we began to have a conversation. because up until that point the club had been shuttered for a

new few months. he was interested in bringing the club under our umbrella and roping it. and he was willing -- reopening it. he made it very clear that he was willing to do anything, just about anything, to ensure that that club was reopened and that the doors would never close again. david: well, that's -- >> he made a some primeses to mt day, and i made some promises to him. david: the long and short of it was he kept his word, and you are still in business, correct if. >> absolutely. he kept his word, and prior to my retirement, i got a chance the see him in june of '22. we reopened the pool at the club, and i went -- he summoned me to the van that he was in, and i said to him, you kept your promises, consider this all of my promises kept, and and we had a great laugh. and we took our customary selfie together. david: i must say say it wasn't just jim maine carter. as long as she was alive,

rosalynn was always by his side, and she was a part of all of his projects as well, no? >> absolutely. they worked hand in the hand. they were not just lending their names as honorary chairs to our board, but they were actively engaged in meetings. they would come to every meeting. and she would take notes, he would ask questions. and i'll never forget the night that we actually installed them as honorary chairs of our board. he was a part of a class that included our superintendent of schools in dory county, the police chief of montezuma as well as u.s. federal judge leslie abrams gardner. and as soon as they took the oath of office, i reminded them that they were duly installed and had all the rights and privileges of board members. and the next item on the ahave general da was the approval of the annual budget, and president carter made the motion for the budget -- david: wow. >> judge abrams seconded it, and i stopped the meeting and

said -- david: hey, marvin, i love you, but we are going to give a moment as we listen to the toning of the bells in archery, georgia. this is the boyhood home of president carter. it's going to ring 39 times for our 39th president. let's listen. [background sounds]

[background sounds] david: 39 times for our 39th president of the united states, james earl carter, who died last week and is being honored if his hometown of archery, georgia. that was his boyhood town.

he later on just moved less than a couple of miles from there to plains, georgia, which is also where they're going to be honoring him. david spunt is in plains and, david, you've had a little time there to talk to various people. the thing that really stands out among jimmy carter, so many former presidents have just gone on to -- oh, i'm sorry, we've got marvin lester still with us. you're perfect. in some ways you're better, because you've spent your whole life down there. i'm sure it surprised you when you first saw them, former presidents are usually multimillionaires who spent all their time trying to become richer with various speeches and celebrity events. that didn't describe jimmy carter at all. he really stood out, i think not since harry truman have we had a former president who was as plain as jimmy carter was, right? >> absolutely. he was known to walk the streets of plains.

he would come to board meetings for boys and girls club, that was not uncommon for him. he did a lot of things he didn't want people to know about. when i think of him, i think of the word humility. no kid that attends the jimmy and is rosalynn carter boys and girls' club has obey a fee because unbeknownst to anybody, he was paying it secretly. he and and miss rosalynn are. and out of the 5,000 clubhouses that boys and girls' clubs of america has throughout the united states on military installations abroad, only two are named for former presidents, the herbert hoover club in st. louis and the jimmy and rosalynn carter unit in plains. and the difference between those two is that president carter physically built his club. finish. david: you know, as a former boys club member myself, i grew up in washington, d.c., but i gotta tell you, i'm very proud of the work that he did. and service the -- i can't -- it was, i can't tell you how wonderful my experience was decades ago growing up wit