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bream. johnson gets right or to control of washington. courts are working together the potential to be one of the most consequential congresses in the history of this great nation for. >> ushering the next trump error with tomorrow's election certification. >> are blessed to be alive a grweregrateful but not happy prs to your terror attack on the bidens policies under the microscope raising concerns over the government's ability to secure upcoming large-scale events. >> do not just respond to the last attack, and to >> the next one. >> adam smith the top democrat on armed services and louisiana senator bill cassidy what this means if trumps defense pics are not confirmed swiftly? then it. >> jimmy carter lived his life not by his words by his deeds for its undependable flex and the life and legacy of our 39th president as lawmakers recall his humble beginnings, it deep faith and life of public service for it all right now on "fox news sunday."

♪. jacqui: help lo from fox news in washington. a look at the headlines. millions of americans are dealing with a major winter storm moving across the midwest right now along the interstate 70 corridor. it's heading for the mid atlantic states earning heavy snow in the blistering cold temperatures overnight tonight. several states have declared states of emergency. here in washington congress as it will convene despite the storm congressional joint sessional, 2024 presidential electoral votes v vice president kamala harris will certify her own loss to donald trump. congress tightened and clarified the rules for that procedure after the events of generally six, 2021. while that is going on president biden the first lady will visit new orleans, four days after isis inspired terrorists plowed a rented truck into pedestrians early on new year's day killing 14 and injuring dozens more.

inminimum reaction from louisiaa senator bill cassidy first-team coverage with nate foy from west palm beach and lucas tomlinson covering the white house response to the terror attack. lucas, let's argue. president biden for his little child to new orleans is 15 days remaining in office biden has pledged to keep up pressure on terrorist groups. courts relentlessly pursue isis and other terrorist organizations where they are. they'll find no safe harbor here. the isis inspired a rampage on bourbon street that killed 14 people wound and dozens more, critics said biden for years and downplayed the threat posed by islamic terrorism. >> according to the intelligence community terrorism from white supremacy azimuth lethal threat to the home on today. the isis, not al qaeda white supremacist. >> we asked for too long for

this nation. what dowhat is that poison? white supremacy throughout her history has ripped this nation apart. what is not clear biden is change his mind. >> thank you everybody that's it. i was into the new year end the fbi says 42-year-old u.s. army veteran shamsud-din jabbar plowed his rented pickup truck with an isis flag attached to bourbon street before being shot by police prior to the massacre he placed two bombs and ice chests along the route on his way to new orleans from houston where he lived recorded a message to his family saying he joined isis earlier this year. he divorced for the third time in 2022 louisiana attorney general says new orleans must bolster security before hosting the super bowl next month. courts are going to be answering a lot of hard questions that also gets ready for a super

bowl. >> security has been beefed up around the white house ahead of jimmy carter state funeral president-elect trumped inauguration. a second layer of fencing has just been added to pennsylvania avenue this weekend. >> lucas tomlinson at the white house, thank you. to west palm beach and nate foy carbonate trump transition, nay? >> president-elect donald trump hosted italian prime minister last night alongside his pick pr secretary of state, marco rubio. with just over two weeks until inauguration day the president-elect is already working to ensure the leadership apparatus that he wants is in place in washington d.c. ready to implement his agenda. >> coordination president trump and his adin his administratione going to create a leaner, faster more efficient federal workforce. >> house speaker mike johnson won reelection after prisonlike donald trump made phone calls on his behalf will golfing and west

palm beach. >> president trump is hitting a 500 of the time we talked red very good discussion how to advance the trump agenda. >> trump posted michael be a great speaker or country will be the beneficiary. trump warns of looming democratic attempts to block his cabinet pics. defense secretary nominee face armed services committee generally 14th trumps pickford national intelligence will meet tomorrow with senator mark warner the top democrat on the senate intelligence committee. >> they work very well as you know. i think were going to do very well for incoming national security advisor mike walton says is important trumps cabinet pics confirmed calling the presidential transition a moment of vulnerability. the terror attack to new orleans raises additional concerns. trump blames president joe biden for rising radical islamic

terrorism and violent crime in the country. in new york judge merchan you will avoid prison time in his upcoming prison time. trump disputed his criminal conviction on truth social writing quote never falsified business records. it is a fake maid of charge by a corrupted judge. trumtrump and attended sentencig virtually or in person he has not said which one he will pick quite yet. his team is looking forward to what they call a victory rally at capitol one arena which holds 20000 people. it's going to happen on the eve of the inauguration on january 19. the next day president trump will be sworn into the white house for second term. >> nate foy reporting from west palm beach. thank you. louisiana senator bill cassidy. senator, thank you for being here. >> thank you precook senator fbi

dhs counterterrorism warrant a potential copycat attacks after what we saw in new orleans. there are several large-scale events from the super bowl in new orleans to inauguration and d.c. it is enough being done to prevent something like this from happening again? >> i can promise you everything is going to be done. they do not want to look bad. and to comment more poorly they want to protect the american people. you have to recognize that wherever their so-called soft target street festivals and say there'essay this potential for something bad to happen. i would encourage the american people to be alert report things that look the thing terrorists what to do which is to say i'm too afraid to live in freedom. no, you got to be bold to live in freedom and that's the best we can counterterrorism.

jacqui: senator, the city of new orleans spent $2.3 billion to harden infrastructure after the fbi warned in 2017 the french quartequarter was vulnerable tos casualty event the mayor said malfunction shortly after they were installed they were down for repairs ahead of the super bowl they're being replaced. so when that attack happened there were police vehicles acting as barricades, listen. >> we indeed have a plan but the terrace defeated it. the very next day that superintendent admit additional barriers on hand she did not know they existed. forty-eight archer barriers designed to stop a 5500 truck going 60 miles an hour. police superintendent did not know what resources she had to protect the most vulnerable site in the city. should she face the consequences for that?

>> everything is you laid out is as you said it, absolutely there has to be leadership at the top of leadership failed as you describe it absently there has to be consequences. , end of story. i think we will have a complete review of everything from top to bottom. at that so he ends up shaking out completely she should be replaced. >> the police and put out the archer barriers the day after the attack to reopen bourbon street. meridian rapid defense a group the company that sold them to the city in 2017 said they are the strongest mobile barriers in the world. the ceo said quote not only did they not know they had them, they did not know how to describe them. even now in the pictures i have seen the barriers are not set up properly because the wheels are still down. what is your reaction to hearing that? >> of us who we are preparing for a super bowl there is going to be a mardi gras before then.

very quickly this city needs to implement everything it needs to do to take it to the next level. i will say our governor has had the state police going down there is a multi- parish, multi- regional task force which is going to provide security. i feel comfortable that when the super bowl comes it will be an incredibly secure environment. i went into the sugar bowl is an act of defiance. >> you could not believe i'm sorry. i don't think at the take it over. you need to have a plan that's credible reviewed by outside entities they say yes, this is good. then you do every thing you can to make sure it's implemented correctly with ei a third party guaranteeing implementation. i think is very doable. >> present bible visiting new orleans tomorrow to meet with the victims families. when you asking for in terms of

federal support? >> first, my gosh. how can we not feel for both the families of those who died but also those who have been injured and their families. in terms of federal support i think one i have learned in medicine, as i'm a doctor in medicine when something bad happens amen a family wants tow it doesn't happen again. the loss or the terrible thing that happened these contribute to a greater good. the best thing the city, state, the federal government can do is do their best to make sure this does not happen again. what we can do as a people's make sure we do not live our lives in fear or terrible live bravely. and support the same as however they need. i'm very proud of the medical teams in new orleans are going to be providing first-rate care to all of those victims. which is impractical. >> has renewed focus on the

first swift senate confirmations about delays we are hearing might slow that down. republican sources told the hill hellyou've got to the ethics paperwork that fbi done that's taken longer than it should have they should know better this is a lot to do with the way the transition team is s set itselfo operate. is this a potentially a self-inflicted problem for the trump administration? >> oto do it there was delay getting the documentation signed in terms of allowing the sharing of data. it's always easy to look back 20, 20 oh my gosh than should have been different. i cannot comment on the exact process. i will emphasize to get this done as quickly as possible, getting the right person and the in theright position clearly is important. i would take us not just for domestic issues but it's a dangerous world out there also for the international environment. >> pete hegseth confirmation hearing is next week abc is reporting the senate armed services committee is requesting

additional information from veterans organizations a previously led and from the california d.a. who declined to bring charges following a 2017 sexual assault accusation. are you aware of any delays that might bungle his timeline? >> i am not. by the way this is due diligence the senate has in the constitution advice and consent process. the fact this is being requested is not in and of itself is a silly anything bad. something good in the fact the sun is supposed look of the qualifications of the person who is nominated and then and conconsentthey agree these are e at the senate is doing its job, that's a good thing. >> she met with headsets are you a yes for him? >> i still have to see that process but one, we had a great interview presented the interviews we all knew about in the press he had a water he had a response for them is there with his wife he explained after

that he served in the war his life was messed up and now it's better. i get that. i would also like to review the data the information being requested for that's part of fully inventing someone but pete did a great job in injury with me. jacqui: your camille be overseeing rfk junior's hearing that there are some reports democratic senators jon fetterman, bernie sanders might be giving him a nod of the support. how were they faring among democrats and your committee? >> i have not spoken to them about it i just do not know. i will meet with them this coming week. i look forward to the interview. i agree with him on some food safety at the altar processed food is a problem but vaccinations he is wrong on. and so i just look forward to having good dialogue with him on that. >> yesterday, speaker mike johnson made clear to house republicans it is trump's

preference to do one reconciliation package rather than to get the 2017 tax cut extension done along the border piece because of those narrow margins in the house. are you on board with that approach? >> i better be. the president said he wants it and mike johnson says is going to do it, all spending bills originate out of the house but they will dictate the action. as regard to strategy, absolutely true. they're very narrow margins of got to get it right. i suppose after that look at the votes they've got in the house they figured that's the best way to get it through but not going to dispute mike johnson i think is doing a great job ray cox is a bit of a reversal serves in the senate that dictates what happens in the house. >> spending bills once more began in the house. whatever chambers have the greatest problems and mike has a margin after three people leave for the cabinet of one i don't

there's been a house of that strict of eight margin willing to one reconciliation bill those three people who were leaving to go to the cabinet will be replaced and the margin will be a couple more not much but a couple more. there may be something very practical in mind there too. >> always comes out to the math thank you, senator cassidy appreciate your time this morning. talks terrific attack in new orleans is sparking questions about the biden administration homeland security strategy. democratic congressman adam smith joins us live to discuss at the white house put enough emphasis on terrorism, that is next. i got the power of 3. i lowered my a1c, cv risk, and lost some weight. in studies, the majority of people reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. i'm under 7. ozempic® lowers the risk of major cardiovascular events such as stroke, heart attack, or death in adults also with known heart disease.

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>> domestic terrorism from white supremacist is the most lethal terrorist threat in the homeland. >> most dangerous terrorist threat to the homeland is white's primacy. jacqui: present by his longtime claims under new scrutiny in the wake of the new orleans attack critics argue the president has downplayed the isis threat put it focus on a white supremacy concerns. join me not washington congressman adam smith but thank you very much for being here this morning. >> thanks for having me appreciate the chance. sir, throughout his presidency biden believed white supremacy was the greatest threat to the homeland. but two months before the last remarks that you heard u.s. intelligence community released its annual threat assessment report. it painted a much different picture. the document mentions a russia 98 times. china 93 times around 46 times. north korea 25 times. there were 15 mentions of

racially motivated violent extremism. white supremacy was mentioned only once. did president biden have his produce wrong? >> had no. that was president biden's intelligence community that issued that report. whatever couple of clips you may have picked what the president said he think the emphasis of his justice department, of his intelligence community is homeland security department was on precisely with that report you just read said it was. it understood the broad threat environment that we face. it's best to try to confront that threat environment. >> the fbi told congress suspect in the new orleans attack shamsud-din jabbar was not on the radar. they did not have any intelligence on him. he was is not someone they were watching. do you believe at all the prespresidents a belief that whe supremacy is the greatest threat to the homeland impacted directives that were sent down to federal agencies? lexis was an individual who had no links are no public links to

isis. he was to radicalize in the space of the last nine months primarily at stuff that happened is personal. cooks nine months as part longtime too. >> he did not join a group. i do not believe this there is a terrorist attack when trump was president by a radicalized islamic terrorist in florida at a military base. do i believe trump was not paying attention? no. but i hope this makes clear to the incoming trump administration is the depth of the threats that we played face from a variety of different organizations. again all outlined in the report you read from biden's intelligence services saying we got threats from a whole bunch of different places and the lone wolf attack which has been talked about a long time for individual w is not on anyone's radar. what we need as many to support local law enforcement. we need to support the fbi. the justice department to do their level best to find as many of these as possible. understanding and you have heard this before at the terrorists only have to be right months.

that is a huge challenge we face. i will hope we will come together as a country to meet that challenge and not try to turn into a i a do ridiculous pt is an argument based on who is the president print happened under trump. happened under biden let's work together to try to make sure it does not happen again. >> told fox this week that jabbar joined in the military to try to find some direction in life he spoke to us off-camera. listen to this. him being in more trouble finding something to set it straight, to ground him. he was looking for some type of guidance to help in his life. >> both e the new orleans attacr and the man involved in the cyber truck explosion in las vegas had military backgrounds. you are the top democrat on the armed services committee are you concerned at all about the problem with our service members falling prey to radicalization? >> i am concerned with the

problem of the radicalization of the people in our country in general. it's happened to people who did not serve in the military. i think to paint a broad brush of service members is uniquely vulnerable to this type of thing, that's somewhat democrat into the people who served in the military. >> we believe there are enough services supporting them. >> that's was going next. i do not will be able to oh my gosh the military is full of all of these people because that is an exaggeration, it's wrong is not fair to the military. we do have to do a lot more i believe the guilty mental health issues that people in the military base. ptsd and others there's a lot of advancements have been made in recent years. a lot of new treatments certainly is something we need to emphasize to make short service member's get our support and help. the terrorist attack, the number of suicides been done by people in the military are completely unacceptable any greater attention. >> it is a terrible issue.

moving on the first fbi spokesperson who addressed the public after this attack gave wrong information about the case. take a listen to this. >> we will be taking over the investigative lead for this event. this is not a terrorist event. >> we now know that junior agent was only speaking because her boss special agent in charge of new orleans was on vacation. fbi headquarters was so upset they sent the deputy assistant director from d.c. to take over this. do you believe duncan's statement eroded investigation she face any consequences for that? >> i do not know about that. it was clearly a mistake. this happens all the time something comes out, people reach conclusions like that. experienced investigators should know better than that without question. i am not in charge of discipline within the fbi but clearly i was a mistake that should not have been made to. >> at a minimum should policies

be made to make sure senior officials are on hand during major events like new year's eve, the sugar bowl, the super bowl? >> that is quite possible in particularly when you have a period of time when you can suspect a threat, absolutely pick. >> do you believe the federal government is doing enough to secure large-scale events coming up like a inauguration? trump also plans to hold a rally in d.c. the night before inauguration but is there sufficient security for that? >> i believe there will be sufficient security we see it going up all the way around here already. but look, it's a huge challenge. we need to take v it very seriously because incredibly we live in a time when people are radicalized by old large variety of different things and the threat assessment that you read earlier, or russia in particular has really stepped up their hybrid attacks in a variety of different places across the country. we need a heightened level of security for all these events for. >> new congress has been sworn

in. minority leader hakeem jeffries made some headlines with this. take a listen. >> it is okay, there are no election deniers on our side of the aisle. >> in 2018 jeffries wrote the more we learn about 2006 election the more illegitimate it becomes. america deserves to know whether you have a fake president in the oval office he doubled down in 2020 he posted keep pouting, history will never accept you as legitimate president. what changed? >> i think a lot of democrats made mistakes and complaining about the election i remember it vividly i was on this network he said he won, he won the election let's get over it stop talking about it. there's a lot of people in a lot of different places i do find interesting fox news only concerned about election deniers. it seems like the republicans took that whole thing a little bit more seriously in terms of storming the capitol. in terms of doing all kinds of reference to actually stop the election as opposed to issuing a couple of comments.

people get emotional about elections. nobody should try to stop an election for being certified tomorrow, snow will it will be certifying president trump selection. you will not see democrats stand up and protest you will certainly not see them storm the united states capitol to try to stop at certification. we accept the election of president trump we will do our best to work with him going for barbara i would argue that this never covered all sorts of election deniers across the spectrum. but, do you expect any of your colleagues to put up any challenges tomorrow a when the election is certified? what. >> i don't know for there's a lot of us. i don't think so but gosh, go back to 2000 i think 2016 there was one house member democrat who protested the election then did not have a senator so did not go anywhere. there's a lot of us but i can tell you 99% of democrats this is the way the election went out and were going to go work with the new government. 365 just 30 seconds of the

speaker held onto the gavel. it did take some muscle from trump. how are democrats going to work with the incoming administration to make sure bills get pass and government functions? what is going to be hard. the biggest counsel in that budget reconciliation process house republicans are meeting this week to try to figure that out. promising to cut taxes, not cut spending is going to be tough. but we will work with it. jacqui: congressman adams thanks her being here we appreciate it. president biden honors more than a dozen people at the white house of the presidential medal of freedom. we will as the panel at the present was trying to send a message with some of his selections, next. complete nutrition you need, and the flavor you love. so, here's to now... now available: boost max!

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there is a long list. a number of them were prominent critics of trump. you think biden was trying to send a message with this list? >> yes but i think most presidents do print going to surprise everybody by saying i think it's good hilary clinton got this award. not a lot of novelist and fiction writers get the award but t the hilary clinton campain financing created or the greatest works of fiction in living memory and the steele dossier. despite it being total fiction in enthralled the prince and the intel community and federal law enforcement for years i applaud her for that work of fiction i'm excited about the work she does in the future on her totally fictional presidency. >> is going to go somewhere else but i've got a lot marie say something because really came in hot this morning i love it. my friend mary catherine brought the 2025 energy up. all presidents do this for donald trump gave medal of freedom one of his top donors prettbut he gave it to a bunch f sports athletes and people like

tiger woods this is what presidents do. there are number of people like josé andrea's across the political aisle who may be a critic of the trauma people admire for his work providing food and places and found their natural disasters in the u.s. and around the world. a lot of people we can plot on this list i think joe biden was nice and the way he did this. presidents do this, all of them do. >> dug the president also gave live liz cheney and bennie thompson presidential citizens at medal for that work on the january 6 committee. do you see a jab at trump on its method or with that? works potentially so. again this is what presidents do. a good example that we we can o back to obama, certainly a lot of obama supporters gave as well. a lot of this is business as usual but i was just in asheville, north cohen over the break i saw that work has a andres world central kitchen did up close it's still really bad out there as thrilled to see him honored. but what i saw also it was the

president who made the first trump the candidate who made the first trump administration happened, decorated by the person made the second trump administration happened there's a certain poetry to that. >> poetry is one word for it. [laughter] >> moving on the present is drawing some bipartisan criticism for blocking the sale of u.s. steel to japanese company that ceo blasted this decision saying president biden's action is shameful and corrupt. he gave political payback to a union boss out of touch with his members while harming our company's future workers chinese communist party leaders in beijing aren't dancing in the streets. mario, did the president play it right into china's hand with this decision? what could the impact be here? >> i am not sure this is one of the rare instances of biden and trump agree on.

trump has said he would be opposed to the deal. a couple of things going on here both domestically and in foreign policy wise. pennsylvania is a key battleground state. unions are involved. both the parties are vying for the union for joe biden's called himself the most pro- union president of all time. there is that. the other thing is the national security apparatus for the current president soon-to-be former president were split on it. there was a school of thought this undermined tla japan with 50000 some troops there as well. business is business there is a risk where anything can happen in steel is a vital material for us. let's excuse me, maria, i'll ask you because your experience at the state department. how much is this one hurt the u.s. relation with japan?

>> we can believe the reporting just allu alleges that it's jake sullivan, the top national security officials said their support a in the prime minister wade and sent a letter that's a rare step to take a lot of the workers one on this deal to go through pretty promises spent almost $3 billion shoring up u.s. steel which has had a lot of problems they pledge to adhere to the united steelworkers contract. this is one area joe biden's personal and political feelings about unions, the steel industry, really took hold over the national security argument which i do not like what national security threats are used to justify these kind of decisions because i just do not think that threat is they are. and neither did the national security. >> marie highlight something that's an interesting dynamic for typically what would seem the biden white house as they

are incredibly disciplined on not having it leaks. office of the fact every white house staff are thought to bite it was capable of doing the job for four years as a good example. we have heard a lot of dissension from within the admsration on this and the secry of state to rob emmanuel the japanese ambassador to japan at that's really rare in the situation. it shows what a political mistake this might been provided in part because i want to ask it mary cap on one specific question. but it of manipulate in the process in pursuit of a political and the wall street editorial board said this could have some far-reaching consequences. they said mr. biden essentially redefining national security to include economic nationalism which will introduce many new gates for political interference. unions and corporate competitors now know they can use as a another political lever to block investments they do not like it. is this going to send a chill to foreign investors? >> it rationally would it send the messages will be much harder

to get to the process and you are not looking up the normal al barriers in the normal things. it comes to economic security part of this, one of the things reports sites is a possibility of less u.s. steel output. do what else would cause less steel out but if they don't get infusion of capitol they need to survive as a company then you get much less u.s. steel output. >> there is a concern from investors, economists u.s. steel could be sold off, piecemeal in a bankruptcy. do you believe there is any argument that could win in court? both vowing to challenge this. what to think the other panelists have alluded to is something that's quite a possibility they both are correct threatened to have some type of legal action. we don't know what comes out in discovery at all. the facts before this fact befod been a black box in previous administrations. and e-mails, communications et cetera on how this came about.

both the trump and biden are we witnessing a swing towards protectionism in the u.s.? the more we meet at that place. donald trump got a lot of labor support as we have seen. joe biden has positioned himself as the most prolabor president we've ever had. not terribly surprising on an issue like this they would be in agreement. >> and maria, at what cost is this happening? as mario mentioned the other company whose bidding for this came up short. u.s. steel is sort of in the lurch? >> this is something donald trump future presidents will have to deal with. mari also alluded to covid and the fact there was this idea in the last five years we wanted to bring more of our supply chain. more critical industries back to the united states. most of us agree in general

that's a good thing for number of reasons. but the world has globalized. this company, u.s. steel, it needs cash. there have to be ways for foreign companies to invest in american companies economically, and our country and around the world to protect american workers and our supply chain there has to be a way to thread that needle and it felt like this deal was possibly one of those ways. pledging union contracts for example. pledging to invest in this company that congress, all these folks are going to have to deal with. this idea we go back to protectionism, close our doors and shut out the rest of the world is not reality. american companies and workers will suffer if we try to do that. >> one of joe biden's court promises was alice, i am with you but i'm a rational actor you

can work with me this really puts a damper on all that talk we have heard from day one for the by administration. >> it was surprising. it seems like they knew that. they signed off on an arms deal the same day they killed the sale here. so we will be right back, panel per believe it there for just a moment. up next "washington post" cartoonist calling it quits after the paper refuses to publish her drawing that was critical of her employer. we will discuss that decision.

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jacqui: walked back president trump learned this week when he will be sentenced in his hush money case in new york.

we are back now with the panel. mary catherine, judge denied trump's request to dismiss the charges against him and setting up sentencing for just 10 days before inauguration. he signaled the sentence to be on conditional discharge. meaning no jail time, no fine, no probation. why go this route? what's it feels like at this point everyone is making the donuts on this case. they are showing up to do the thing. the thing was not to serve justice the thing was to interfere with his ability to be elected at present i do not believe the former farmer was e latter. this apart is just going to the motions and finish it out did not work out that way. he was convicted though should not just go away.

trying to thread the needle here again of the sentencing him it's not so were going to get rid of your sentence because you were convicted. making clear he could not put him in jail. he needs to do things because he is president. a lot of the american people feel like there should not be get out of jail free card that you can do anything as president too. you can commit any crime they just go away by that sits uncomfortably with people so the judge of the right thing here. >> .howdy th.heavy thing peoplet this? >> by and large do not want to pay much attention to it. there is so much more going on donald trump is a benefited from so many charges happening people find it tough to keep track of what's going on with the witch. one thing under biden donald trump have in common, not a lot they both can fairly say the only reason this happened is because of who i am and my last name. a lot of the public feels that way for both of them but that's one of the things that's an advantage for trump here. >> mario what is the likelihood trump can stop the sentence from

happening or successfully appeal it or somehow prevent you from going through? >> as of right now. that's what they are deliberating on. maybe to be punted to look furtr down the line. maybe it makes its way to the supreme court to doug's point i don't think americans are paying attention to this at this point he won the popular vote he got all the things in this election he did not in the previous one that he won at this point as well. it's just whether he wants to expunge his record whether or not he was to spend that time in a courtroom. have some of his attention and divide it with his executive responsibilities. >> mary catherine in some way the judge is trying to deliver on an image of a trump being sentence? that is something to happen. >> he is but again his power is somewhat limited in this area to the extent it could be

politically damaging and people would pay attention. if he went to a hard on trump and this became an issue as he continues in his presidency. it would be a damage to democrats not to republicans are trump at this point. >> was a response to that? >> i think there are a lot of democrats that felt how could so many americans vote for someone who had been convicted of a number of charges, who had been accused of a many more things, election interference, sexual crimes, these were things, doug is right voters did not appear to care about them. they reelected i think it should matter even the voters don't seem to care about it through judicial process should not be different because he is president. i think if you commit crimes you should face consequences we have a system and our country where there are rules, there are norms, there is guidance at d.o.j. about that. a lot of people are frustrated he has been accused and convicted of so many things and it just as it never broken

publicly. >> the clock the thing different was the last in a think different was a novel charge that was a felony created out of all these non- felonies that were passed the statute of limitations. one of the people reasons people did not care about this they clock this is what was different for. >> democrats got their own way on this a little bit. we often heard donald trump should not be reelected because he is a sexual predator okay fine for the next sentence was coming at a rally in philadelphia bill clinton voters heard that. >> than the last part on that is the packaging of this particular case as opposed to some of the other ones that were dismissed. when i speak to democratic strategist the fact it was labeled as a hush money case. that gives the inference this is a personal matter for it whether or not you believe with the behavior that was alleged there, this is a personal matter and should be played out in court as

opposed to election interference is what bragg tried to say that it was at a certain point. >> on a much lighter note to the "washington post" cartoonist pulitzer prize winning cartoonist quit her job say in the paper has refused to run her drawing that depicted amazon founder jeff basu who own the paper groveling to trump and said it's a very first time in her career she has had a drawing killed because of who her pen was aimed at. most employees would not publicly criticize their boss the person who cuts the checks. but should it be different for the press? >> we have seen this play out i'm a member of the press obviously. we've seen this play out over the last cult six -- eight weeks may be a little longer going back to the "washington post"'s decision not to endorse a candidate with the some of these philosophical questions being raised.

the cartoonist said this is never happened before. you take your editor at his word it's duplicative of coverage that they have other opinions that they have as well. not sure where this shakes out. >> to your point, doug, the editor david shipley said he made that decision himself he wanted to avoid repetition he said a story had been published on the same topic already. are you buying that? >> any time your boss, especially if your boss is jeff bezos everyone in america is probably bought something from. it's an enormous influence that he wields there's going to be questions about this. one thing i find interesting in this is we see so many stories about newsrooms being decimated throughout the united states whether their big newspapers, or small newspapers. i admire anyone who has the courage of their convictions to say i am out of here. but editorial cartoonist is not really seem to be a growing industry and america right now. so it may be really tough to

find that next phase of employment based on that. >> for me a thousand charge the editing process i'm not even is not duplicative to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest is something the art bank attention to it when they would not have paid attention to the cartoon and the first place it gives you more credibility. like so many more people seen the cartoon now. i don't believe the editors excuse i think we have already seen the "washington post," other media outlets other business leaders preemptively try to kiss up to trump and mark zuckerberg's getting a lot of criticism going to mar-a-lago. owing to prime the pump's before he becomes president which is what happens often when there are leaders who want a business leaders and the media to give fealty to them. too not criticize them. to be on their team. this is part of trumps mro. i think there is a disturbing

trend we see people preemptively giving up their voice or power to try to please trump and not be that independent voice and not provide the other point of view and that is a very concerning trend for the next four years and continues too. >> less than 30 seconds left we are beginning the week long funeral services for 39th president. mario, your final word for the panel on his legacy and achievements? >> he is criticized for maybe his record, is present the maven have the best presidency. but also just many of the things he did minorities for example, getting them positions in the federal government. elevating them putting more wetlands on africa his humanitarian deeds after he left the office holds so much weight. jacqui: very important we will be remembering him this week thank you panel, see again next sunday thanks. your leaky life of the carter center in atlanta america repairs to say goodbye to its 39th president. we will have the latest on preparations for his services. that is next.

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♪ ♪ if. jacqui: welcome back. jonathan serrie is live at the carter center in atlanta where former president jimmy carter is lying in repose. >> reporter: good morning to you. inside the carter center, the atmosphere is quiet and yet joyful. after all, this is the celebration of a 100-year-long life well lived. in fact, we spoke with one woman

who traveled all the way here from minnesota. >> everything from his work in the boundary waters to work for people with disabilities and really just defining what you do after the presidency, i think, is pretty amazing. so i wanted to come and say thank you. >> reporter: on the drive from the former president's hometown of plains, georgia, to atlanta yesterday the motorcade carrying the casket made a brief stop in front of the georgia capitol building where mr. carter served as governor in the early 1970s: the former president was very intentional about having his body lie in repose if at the carter presidential center which houses his international nonprofit that monitors elections, moderates peace talks and eradicates disease. on tuesday the former president's remains will travel to washington, d.c. to to lie in state in the u.s. capitol rotunda until a state funeral on thursday morning at the washington national cathedral.

later that day mr. carter's body will return to his hometown for a private service at the baptist church where he used to teach sunday school almost every week and then later that day his body will be interred next to his aboved wife, rosalynn, of 77 years under a willow tree on property where the two two had lived for many years. jacqui: we're grateful for his service to our nation. thank you very much, jonathan serrie. and be sure to tune in for our live coverage as the nation says good-bye to our 39th president. we'll bring with you all the key moments. that's all for this "fox news sunday." we'll see you next weekend. ♪ guy: thanks, guys. ♪ if. maria: good sunday morning, everyone.

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