will return to his hometown for a private service at the baptist church where he used to teach sunday school almost every week and then later that day his body will be interred next to his aboved wife, rosalynn, of 77 years under a willow tree on property where the two two had lived for many years. jacqui: we're grateful for his service to our nation. thank you very much, jonathan serrie. and be sure to tune in for our live coverage as the nation says good-bye to our 39th president. we'll bring with you all the key moments. that's all for this "fox news sunday." we'll see you next ♪ ♪ ♪

♪. mark: hello america i am marking turn to this is "life, liberty & levin" sunday. thank you for being here. two great guests represent of michael waltz soul with a national security adviser in former u.s. navy lieutenant liet commander, founder of american islamic forum for democracy and cofounder of the muslim reform movement. before we go to our guests, we have this judge in manhattan who says were going to do a sentencing next week of donald trump. and i am very disturbed by the legal analysis by defense counsel, former prosecutors who say okay, look this may not be a great thing but it gives trump the opportunity to appeal. what are you talking about? donald trump is an innocent man. he did not commit any

misdemeanors pretty did not commit any felonies. not a new york state, not at the federal level, not anywhere. he was subjected to a stalinist trout that violated at least four of his constitutional rights under the bill of rights of the federal constitution. what are you talking about? we have a judge and a prosecutor who timed this case to try to stop a trump from getting the nomination right before i think it was super tuesday throughout the primary process and the general election he was forced to go into that courtroom. a gag order for a presidential candidate. we sit here and say well, at least now we can appeal, peel ware, new york? that's not a risky proposition is it? the new york gulags is where you want to go if you don't want justice you are republican or conservative. this was a runaway train. still a runaway train 10 days

before an inauguration this and guy merchan and acting state judge owes no jurisdictional authority and a phony case of this sort to begin with. who decides were going have a sentenciatsentencing hearings be writes this 18 page decision that i read, barely literate. let me suggest you probably had some help from a kook law professor but nonetheless it does not matter presidential immunity for criminal process were sitting president does not extend to a president-elect. once he rules on sentencing there is an appeal process part of the criminal process donald trump a beat president that appeal process will go on throughout his presidency be stuck in new york. he says only the president has the authority, the chief executive, a president-elect is not approved a president-elect is not. so what is he trying to do here? smear donald trump all along his

presidency per exec of the department of justice and the 2000 memo said it is a huge problem at the federal level. that is you cannot have a sitting president with the stuff hanging over his head and undermines his effectiveness. at undermines his representation of the american people with foreign governments. merchan knows exactly what is doing he is responsible for this whole thing. president-elect immunity retroactive immunity he concocts these ideas that the president's lawyers are pushing for president-elect immunity and retroactive immunity. no they are not. essentially he does not seriously address the supremacy clause. why? if he did he would be out of business. he had no authority whatsoever to oversee this case it should've been dismissed immediately. but do not worry we are told by defense lawyers, we are told by former federal prosecutors, lo look, unconditional discharge. no incarceration. no incarceration?

at this clown excuse for a judge try to put donald trump in prison or an ankle bracelet or anything of that kind what you think would happen? the department of justice would walk into the front door of the supreme court take up the case immediately and rule against this guy and put him down. he is evil. not completely stupid but he is evil paid that's w for that's wt do it that his wife note finds, no penalties that's what trump does not have to show up in person because he does not want the case to go where it ought to go to the supreme court of the united states. this is interfering with the presidential election it is interfering with the presidency. it's interfering with an inauguration. that's federal and every way and we are stuck. we are stuck in a new york state court. he says this provides with finality sounds like a legal analyst. so we can appeal. here's a guy who sets the fire

and says i'm putting out the fire so you can get on with your life. and then he basically addresses but ignores most of the most pertinent point of the department of justice and that 201,973 memos for a want to talk about this bro what to remind you as a few things as painful as this might be. a complete set up of an innocent man. we are supposed to sit here and say okay, they attacked the federal judicial system. they attacked the state justice system. they attacked our primary electoral system of the federal level but they attacked the federal electoral system and now they are attacking the office of the presidency will donald trump is president but it's okay it could've been worse. what are these guys talking about? bracket charger president trump with a low-level misdemeanor for which the statute of limitations it already run. nobody was ever charged with in the first place he accused trump of falsely reporting

nondisclosure agreements like a hush money. every press organization that calls it hush money has entered into nondisclosure agreements. it's a nondisclosure agreement it's the nature of doing business, that's what it as he earned added 33 counts by charging every entry in the books as a separate crime so we have 34 crimes. since the statute of limitations had run bragg increase of violation from the misdemeanor to a felony, how did he do that? bragg claimed president trump's real goal was to commit a different crime thereby reviving the misdemeanor statute and then converts it into a felony. talking about undermining felonious act which he really would never describe it everybody knows a federal campaign law but why wouldn't you say so? because he has no jurisdiction and neither does merchan on a federal campaign issue. later bragg claim there were other state crimes election law

crimes and other misdemeanors to statute of limitations had run. there were no laws there were no former prosecution their way out of the way lane with federal law but don't worry trumka now appeal they can gulags that it's a state york judicial system there is not another character new york i've been able to find your prosecutor combine crimes like this. what with being alleged not violate laws. the former bradley smith was to testify as an expert witness in a trial and said this does not violate federal election law. but judge merchan excusing acting state judge conflicting democrat hacked rogue george merchan her preventing her from testifying. even at this point is illustrated by the prosecution the underlying crime was a federal election connected crime, why? because bragg had no authority to prosecute a case the basis of

which was a federal campaign law violation. the judge had no authority to adjudicate. until the very end when it was too late for the defense to do much about it. think about all of us the nondisclosure agreement were never a campaign contribution under federal law. there is no underlying criminal violation. these misdemeanors could not be resuscitated let alone turn into felonies let alone turn into 34 felonies. there was no jurisdiction for the d.a. no jurisdiction to pursuing the case or holding a trial. merchan conduct during the was openly and grotesquely stall as he repeated angrily ruled against legitimate motions by the defense against most of their arguments he ruled against

legitimate objections during the trial often angrily admonished the lawyers in front of the jury to send them another message he berated key defense witnesses pretty cut off testimony at narrow and directed the testimony of defense witnesses. meanwhile bragg's witnesses coultalkabout anything they wan. sex, sexual allegations, their views about campaign election laws being the experts that they were, they were not experts they could go on and on pretty much about anything they wanted. that was not probative it was prejudicial a basis for reversal right there but it did not matter and it stacks up. stacked at the presidential testimony salacious allegation and hope hicks testimony she had worked also with president trump with candidate trip she had for conversation president was present about wood about the payments when they're being made and so forth not because they

were criminal but because she had those conversations trump was president. also we have madeline testimony madeline testimonyon how the prs checks we have immunity decision by the supreme court so rather than hold off the case while the court's ruling on relative to us will not lemur the courthouse churned by was full speed ahead is a first win of the box wanted to be the first one out to try to cripple trump. defeat drunk. imprisonment trump. in acting state judge. but do not worry, mark, everything is okay. now trump has the ability to appeal the new york appellate courts. he rules and said even in this 18 page a preposterous writing the other day, while i am not convinced that it has anything to do with immunity, that was all personal stuff. all personal stuff? the whole case is based on personal nonsense and allegations. the jury instructions was a

further abomination. most appalling merchan told the jury you do not have to agree with the underlying premise. you have three choices, multiple choice it is a multiple-choice test. how do you defend yourself and it's a multiple-choice test what crimes your allegedly committed? giving the jury in manhattan of all places the ability to pick and choose merchan set up trump in every way he could every step of the trial this was in a courtroom you had a judge, you had a jury in a prosecuting a defense counsel. but so what? that was for looks what actually took place was a disgusting attack on our justice system on the state and federal level. you can choose whatever crime you think. so we have a violation of the fifth amount, six the men, ate the moment, 14th and emma, violation of the sixth amendment, in violation of due process the fifth, defendant has

a right to the process to a pror being charged with. so we can defend himself and his lawyers can competently represent them but this is basic stuff that goes back to the magna carta's 1000 years old except in judge merchan's courtroom. the supremacy clause which she discussed precious little in his 18 page bs document the other day. supremacy clause there is a lack of jurisdiction from merchan and up federal case even though there is not a federal case. but that's the hook they hung their hat on federal election laws and the added federal tax law what is an d.a. and new york and acting state judge in new york adjudicating underlying federal crimes? that's where they need the ball right to the end they gave the jury multiple-choice question rather than said it's federal law because they would be out of business. merchan blocked key test of him

bradley smith like i mentioned. no federal election law was violated about note federal election law was even involved while allowing michael cohen multiple convicted felon to give all of the opinion he wanted the violations of federal election law which she is no expert by the way the business entries were not false they were actually accurate and they were not made public. the nondisclosure agreements were not unlawful federal campaign laws were not violated in fact they were not triggered. indeed the nondisclosure agreements were entered as business expenses in 2016. reports were not followed to 2017 to how could they affect the 2006 election? they didn't rely on the judge filing after filing and i say this with the greatest amount of respect, relying on this judge who did this purposefully who

created this entire scenario. who abuse the rule of law at the federal and state level like we've never seen before. to keep filing motions with him in the hopes he will dismiss his own baby, his own frankenstein was absurd from day one. he orchestrated this travesty. he is a conflicted judge. to go to him, to get help from him was never going to happen. that's why it's repeatedly stated the matter should be raised directly with the supreme court get it out of this chain try to get to the supreme court get it out to the supreme court to take the path there is no path to take. butch bush versus gore late

great ted olson on behalf of the bush campaign filed what he called an emergency appeal. even called a kumquat these are common law asserts its assertive mandamus or something like that with the court knows what you are doing for this no official name for these things because they are not statutes. call it whatever you want you get it to the supreme court you give it the opportunity it takes for justices to decide if they're going to take up the case or not. i mean i could write the brief case after case after case of violation of federal authority, federal jurisdiction violation of federal constitution violation of the position to the nicest department of justice. the attempt to damage in fact cripple incoming president or presidential cam that, it is all federal and the violations of the due process clause, equal protection clause of the fifth amendment the sixth mm of the eight, the 14th from the violation of the federal constitution and has splattered

all over the place this wasn't a local case or a state case these are two left-wing phones want a prosecutor elected one astute judge. doing what they do to appeal to the manhattan population. screwing the country, 49 other states the electorate and we have a landslide victory for president trump he is still involved but don't worry's not going to send him to prison. try it, pal, just detroit sued the federal court studio. the department of justice for half a century's taking a position that basically what merchan is doing is never to be dumped the federal level let me ask a question you think the department of justice position will be you can't interfere with the federal executive branch of the presidency unless you are d.a. or state judge then you can interfere that all you want, really? a d.a. in the state judge can destroy the construct of the

federal level? the reason the department of justice is never written a memo on this no one is ever contemplated it before we have 15000 or so d.a.'s offices around the country should we just leave this as it is? at least trump can appeal within the new york system. what about the office of the presidency what about the federal constitution? what about all of these issues that have been breached, that have been violated? just leave them out there for the next presidential candidate to have to deal with? yes, right. now, i hope the new york appeals courts and those judges have some sense. maybe they will. does anyone really expect them to come through with one 100% correct decision on donald trump? it's not just the state judges in new york. it's a federal judges in new york. look what they're doing to rudy giuliani america's mayor 911. they are destroying him.

look what they did that in this libel case of donald trump, another federal judge. and now, look at the state judge in new york. this is a federal constitution that involves an electoral system. it involves our constitutional system it involves the federal law i'm sorry, i admit i've never been a defense lawyer. at the rabbinic prosecutor i have spent 45 years fighting these guys litigating is the irs and the epa. litigating against every federal department litigating against radical left-wing groups and so forth and so on. i takes a different kind of mindset to fight these people. not litigation paint by the numbers. school choice, we one that landmark legal foundation. bill clinton being held in contempt we felt that complaint in arkansas years ago epa held

contempt for destroying records, we did that. i can go on and on and on. sometimes you are representing somebody or woul when you are commenting on a case don't be so defensive. don't worry about a loss. you don't do that in football. you do not do that in any sport. you do not do it in the military. go on the offensive. the worst thing supreme court could have said is we are not interested in this case and you will be right back where you are. let me tie the supreme court said it wasn't interested in this case, it would bear the brunt of what it decides. because this is not going away. this is not going away. the floodgates have opened. this is not a great day for donald trump. donald trump is an innocent man. what merchan is doing is trying to brand him a convicted

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terrorist attack in new orleans. there's going to be more of them. we have had open borders. foreign governments and terrorist organizations are trying to influence people in our country, american citizens to support them. this is not simply homegrown. their home grown but influenced by foreign events in foreign individuals. is there something the national security group, your group will be able to do a little bit more aggressively, little more comprehensively to include this in the national security umbrella? >> absolutely. first, let's just take a step back the terrorist, isis, al qaeda, they did not get the memo that the biden administration decbiden administrationdecided s over. they have absolute infiltrated our borders. they are in the united states they do not know that we have a full picture of how many cells are here and how operative they

are. we do know isis didn't get the memo the southern border is wide open for them infiltrated people across. we had earlier this year thankfully eight isis operatives rolled up scouting out sites in three different cities as part of a larger group of several hundred that ice i isis smuggled across. at least according to their still trying to track down. what will we do under president trump? i bet you, you will see it day one executed by stephen miller, my good friend close the border. shut it down. close it off. and then we begin kicking out the people we can find. arresting others and starting to clean this mess up. this is absolute under the umbrella of the national security council and stephen miller is homeland security

advisor will have a leading role. mark: the other side of this coin is the money pouring into here for the faculty at her colleges and universities. the indoctrination of american citizens for this guy in new orleans was an american citizen. as a red light radicalized by he was reading isis stuff online there pouring money these terrorist organization the terrorists tastes iterrorist tar country to influence our country. isn't this something that also needs a very carefully worked looked at? >> click to or absolutely write what i described day one, week one, month one activities. shut down the border. start rounding these individuals up. make sure we have an accurate internal intelligence picture of the fbi to counterterrorism. and which kash patel, when he was confirmed, if he was confirmed will be doing along with pam bondi if she is

confirmed. that's day one stop the bleeding really stop making sure the right posture abroad from a surveillance counterterrorism special operations standpoint. finally look at the broader issue of radicalization. the department of education, state, local, federal. all of those pieces to look at we have mosques, individuals, universities, professors, you name if tha it that pose a threo the united states that are radicalizing individuals to harm the united states. that's the medium-term broader effort will absolutely convene will get to the bottom of it president trump has been loud and clear that we are not going to stand for babel being here in the united states a break. >> even marcus you mention on your show people here on a student vita visa with the

privilege to study at our universities, you do not get to than protestant radicalized. you are going to go back home really fast. mark: one 100% and there needs to be on all hands on deck born agencies. there is no clean line of demarcation whe of the counterterrorism, funding terrorist states they are reaching into our schools. they are reaching into our military. they'rthe reaching into the pen. these things need to be addressed in my view they are not being addressed. using people to allow belly dancers and stuffe

to "life, liberty & levin." mark: welcome back america. michael watts incoming security and tremendous choice it would just salute the president for that. let's talk about the middle east. president trump leaves office pieces breaking out like we never saw before we talk about abraham accord around there not spit in the wrong direction saudi arabia it was working to do with israel. these guys come in the biting regime burn everything down for the fun the iranians. they fund the plo that pa israel needs peace cease-fire the bestie can just say i know how to do this.

my question to you yes to the trump administration more forceful in attacking and defeating these terrorist? are our enemies too? >> you are going to see a complete philosophical wholesale very vocal about it. problems in the middle east not from tel aviv. we are going to stand by and support our greatest ally in the middle east. and values standpoint. thankfully because of the leadership the courage of the

israelis and the israeli people we now have a decimated hezbollah we have an regime that has fallen. we have ironic and the weakest position it hasn't been 1979. align with our ally israel. we are going to rely goal fare of states with israel and opposing iran's aggression were going to maximize pressure were going to do even do everything we can stop them from selling illegal oil. funding the war in ukraine through russia this is the exciting part once we get the abraham accord to back on track but the next step of peace and prosperity we can start talking bigger deals, rail, data

centers, energy, pipelines, fiberoptics really start stitching together in a meaningful way the economic, the vitality, the diplomatic to peace and stability. that makes the historic disagreements that have just kind of existed and been perpetuated. the leave goes behind. i'm really excited about it. mark: you are your passion is fantastic. and so is his. yoyour complete disaster worldwe

funding the enemy in many cases undermining the united states military and so forth and so on. >> you are right. our military has been getting worn out shooting a missile after missile after these ragtag bunch we are going to get that under control. the foreign policy establishment here and around the world that repeats the same old talking points year after year after year is a disruptive leadership that got us the abraham accords. it's them coming back in this going to continue it. that's something everybody gets behind us on a partisan issue american leadership issue i can be more excited as her coming and it really god's honest truth. mike will also want to thank you my friend but thank you for everything you did of the green

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coventry direct today at the number on your screen, or visit coventrydirect.com. mark: welcome back america my good friend zuhdi jasser and cofounder of the muslim reform movement. which i guess is my point. we saw what happened in new orleans and isis and al qaeda and the rest of these murderous enterprises. they are influencing and trying to influence as many americans as possible to do their massive killing and do their really this whole fusion of the marxist islamist element it's happening in our country right in front of us, isn't it? >> it is this a massacre really

lays a bear not only we have a mentality right now in america, and generate 20 cannot come soon enough. ultimately a quarter of the world's a population of muslims we have to look at where they are in history which is 1445 years old as a religion. with not gone through an enlightenment process. we need to reform of a mosque and stage. we south abide administration, blm movement, radicalization of the far left. we have at red/green axis knocks a quarter of the world's population that is muslim but can be radicalized and that jihadism this a political islam that stretches from the islam republic of iran to the egypt comment to our universities. but also the ccp the neo- marxists on the left have been radicalizing the far left blm movement making terrorism and violence cool as a result hamas has been endorsed to the point

you and i did not see when we were talking on 2008, 2010 when i began testifying to congress about our need to have a program of islamism. not this generic mindless and violent extremism. but countering the ideas. sr's a quarter of the world but three quarters of the world that lives under tierney that hates america's anti- americanism is driving this but we need solutions and solutions cannot come fast enough as they will in a few weeks with a president trump or when you start having a strategy of promoting an offense of a pro- american pro americann start to push back against the viral ideology that infects mines. >> and yet with the woke is him, the embrace of the marxist left, particular in the democrat party in the media. pro americanism and this assimilation into americanism and people who come here is just not happening right now. president trump wants to push

back on that but it's going to be quite a task, isn't it? >> not only the security element of ceiling we need an offense. when the forward threat coming through our country but also our domestic threat. if citizens like jabbar that harbor in our anti- american look at the great appointment like kerry lake to the voice currently the voice voa should be the voice of america first. that is what it will be under kerry lake where we have ideas pushed out of americanism so we can start to take back that bandwidth of liberty and freedom. look back at reagan he never fired a bullet against the soviets hadn't destroyed the global ideology through things like the u.s. information agency, radio for europe and otherwise. our domestic is so great to see some like elon musk working with the president. platforms like x and others are

where the jihad he cool get spread it spread in our universities. we are going to build the counter that by beginning to have an unabashedly pro- american mindset orchids like my children are looking at the only thing we would ever die for it is america. we do not to die for islam we don't to die for anything else but understand as america goes the rest of the world goes and that is why we need a new ideology push fourth of forth of americanism against political islam and the red/green axis. mark: whom we come back zuhdi jasser live student site care, students for justice in palestine part of the groups all across the united states but all of our college campuses. enormous influence on our media paid these are effectively i would argue front groups for the ideology. they get an enormous amount of money much of it from overseas. where is the fbi? where is the cia where is the department of homeland security? i agree with the 1000% but we

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mark: welcome back america we are here with doctor zuhdi

jasser. cofounder of the muslim reform movement. i guess you are a pariah in many places many mosques people were a mosque were the is a radical y towing the parishioners do not talk to the fbi if they talk to you. go to care. isn't care part of the problem? is wendy's front organizations that and so forth? >> their world view is it world view were anti- semitic and they hate freedom and liberty. they hate free speech. the left, the biden ministration obama 3.0 has been fueling the rise of radical groups like students for justice in palestine. they look at islam is not an idea that needs reform needs modernization, they look at as a

race bait racialized at that look no further than the white house counterterrorism that was just published two weeks ago three weeks ago on their website basically said they have done great counterterrorism by exposing islam a phobia. this is what our enemies say. they suppress free speech and create blasphemy laws anti- blasphemy laws by suppressive apelike might group the muslim reform in the form for democracy but we have for the trump administration a ready-made coalition called the clarity coalition. clarity stands for champions of liberty against the reality of islamist tyranny. people can see 50 -- 60 different leaders across the west that are looking to save the west and be on the offense. this is where our resources should go. not helping our enemies radicalize her students on campus and be anti- american anti-semitic. but help advance americanism, advanced freedom, free speech. we saw in covid free speech was shoved under the carpet we could

not even speak out for our healthcare and individual rights. this is where we are taking we are group of muslims, former muslims jews, christians people live in but religious freedom and this is where i think the trump administration can help lead not only as we seal the border but create a pro americanism. >> is is so crucial what you are saying. it is actually very exciting. i have known you a long time i know you been involved in these efforts a long time. we are now going to have a president who can embrace these efforts. they help promote and give voice and give official sanctions to people like you in organizations pro- american pro liberty need muslims like you who are out there and reject the terrorists

and the terrorism. in fact i suspect you get a lot of threats from these groups, don't you? >> absolutely. they know what the real threats are which are the ideas of liberty and life as you know. and ultimately this is their biggest threat to their existence. israel is fighting on the front lines against a radical groups and we are fighting here domestically at universities, against a collectivist tribal mindset of identity politics ann dei woke is in. ultimately we need a strategy a whole of government approach to work with those groups who believe in free speech for all of all and to begin to say we are not afraid we are courageous to say it needs reform. as they have to save the west and move forward in a whole of government process. let me know you are just terrific. i want to thank you for what

you're doing. it's crucially important. god bless you my friend. >> god

>> welcome back america. i want to take a few seconds to go gradually the house republicans. the majority for acting like a majority for getting behind mike johnson. i would think president trump for doing what he did as well. ladies and gentlemen, we don't have two minutes to waste the country is under attack, overseas and domestically. we see it we all see it, let's get our act together, house divided can't survive, but to be house united and get our agenda together and principles together limits to feed the enemy. i will see you "life, liberty, & levin". ♪ ♪ ♪