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daughter lost her house and the fire so my heart goes out to them. no water in the palisades. the infrastructure has been a big problem around here and it's where we should spend money. i do have an issue with that. i'm sure she got on the first plane coming back but having nothing to say once you got here. i don't know if it was edited like that. >> jesse: not a good luck. >> we need to keep it up. another fire started in runyon right now. dennis and glad to talk you into everything's okay thank you and thank all the firefighters. >> sean: welcome to hannity a fox news alert southern california is on fire.
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it's a nightmare come to life with city neighborhoods engulfed in flames fueled by high wind and unmanaged brush. they are struggling with water shortages and fire hydrant failures all over the place as well as lack of manpower and as of this hour 0% of the fire has been contained and evacuation zones have been extended into santa monica which has a population of 90,000. the city's mayor, democrat karen bass missing in action until recently while enjoying a overseas trip in ghana and coming up tonight we have full team coverage on the ground including jillian michaels will join a straight ahead. jillian lived in los angeles and now is in florida. she was helping a mother evacuate yesterday her children were also forced to flee their home. her old house which she sold in
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2021 burned to the ground and that she also lost her previous home to a fire in 2018. in a minute you'll hear from adam as well was forced to evacuate his home a few hours ago but first here now on the ground in los angeles with the latest is matt finn. terrible situation there tell us of the latest the latest is another fire breaking out near the hollywood hills and runyon canyon. our understanding is planes are doing water drops on that fire. i'm standing on sunset boulevard in the pacific palisades. behind me there are structures which are burning and the retail corner plaza here burned to the ground in front of our eyes today. los angeles fire was trying to put it out at one point then they stepped away and we seen
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residents and structures across the palisades burning throughout the day today a charter high school a lot of people were asking us about we saw in the past hour it was still burning and there are a lot of hot spots here in the pacific palisades. this fire is far from over in that unfortunately the wind remained steady. so when you have these buildings continuing to burn they carry embers and that's a huge fret tonight. sean? >> sean: matt we are praying for you we are praying prevalent in california including the firefighters and those risking their lives battling these flames. this isn't snot a rural area this is the city of los angeles the second most populated city in the country and is also one of the wealthiest and the highest taxed areas in the world. because of its dry area climate, wildfires always pose a massive risk. there's lots of drought in south
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california. i lived there for five years the city seemed totally unprepared. this city's mayor was absolutely nowhere to be found as the crisis was unfolding. she was in ghana and it took a lot of time to get back to los angeles. when she did arrive the mayor had no interest in answering any questions. it's beyond outrageous take a look. >> do you owe citizens an apology for being absent when their homes are building. do you regret cutting the fire department budget by millions of dollars being mayor. do you have nothing to say today nothing to say to the citizens today. elon musk called you utterly incompetent are you reconsidering your physician? madame mayor do you have absolutely nothing to say to citizens dealing with this
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disaster. no apology for them. do you thank you should have been visiting ghana when this was unfolding back home. that's a real mayor of the people but the mayor and governor newsom and the federal government all failed the people of california much of the dried varnish across all of southern california and they have a science called forest street. you have control the burns and prevent fires from happening. the l.a. fire department is understaffed and underfunded. the mayor increased the library
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budget 15 million while simultaneously cutting the fire department funding by $17.6 million that was only a couple months ago. the mayor also touted recently 400 million-dollar handout from the biden administration that they allocated for green environmental efforts at the port of los angeles. on top of that they spent another $2 million and they can't afford to pay firefighters knowing that wildfires like the one you're watching on your screen are common? meanwhile the fire chief prioritizing her departments time and funding for dei, the water management and infrastructure in southern california also being a huge problem with firefighters across the city encountering malfunctioning hydrants as part of the city running out of water and because of the environmental
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regulations their capitulation to the environmental movement is designed to protect a rare fish species, billions of gallons of water dumped into the pacific ocean instead of being stored in reservoirs for emergencies like this and several months before the election donald trump predicted that this was a disaster waiting to happen take a look. >> they said we have no water and i asked if they had a drought and they said no. the reason they have the water is it's not allowed to flow down it has a natural flow from canada up north more water than they could ever use and in order to protect a tiny little fish. of the water up north gets routed into the pacific ocean millions of gallons of water gets poured. the forests are as dry as a bone that could be rerouted not only
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is it dangerous but billions of dollars they spend a year on forest fires that wasn't his only warning back in 2018 during his first term with governor newsom standing beside him president trump urged the state of california to manage their forests and cut back the brush. common sense the science of force to take a look. >> you will get all of this cleaned out and protected take care of the floors of the forest very important elected other countries where they do it differently and it's a whole different story. i was with the president of finland who said we are a forest nation and they spend a lot of time on drinking and cleaning and doing those things and they don't have any problem.
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so i know everybody is looking at that sadly his warnings fell on deaf ears and the people of california are suffering but this was a disaster brewing for many decades. you can go to school and get a degree in forestry this isn't complicated science and deep blue california. one party has all the power there is no oversight or accountability. catering to radical environmentalists over people safety for decades. they can have limited control burns and brush removal which is the kindling for these fires just like when they denied you might recall we are in the san joaquin valley and they were denied thousands and thousands of acres of farmland and water they weren't allowed to farm in favor of a little fish we went to out and it covered that
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story. it's not even in endangered species but they gave the water to that in not the farmers. there were no reality checks and their one-party rule. here's detail on the experience as a young man when he tried to apply to the l.a. fire department listen to this story. >> i couldn't find a job i walked to a fire station in north hollywood i was 19 living in the garage of my family home my mom on welfare and food stamps and asked if i could get a job as a fireman and they said no because you are not black hispanic or a woman we will see you in seven years i went to a construction site and dug ditches and pick to garbage for the next seven years. then i got a letter in the mail sent to my father so seeing your time has come to do a written exam for the l.a. fire department i took it and i was standing in line and had a young woman and color behind me and said just out of curiosity when
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did you sign up to become a fireman because i did it seven years ago and she said wednesday. >> in the near future when it's contained there needs to be a reckoning in california not just southern california but we do pray for everybody impacted by the devastating fires raging across the city in here with more we have adam carolla himself with us who like so many in southern california were forced to evacuate his home not long ago. how close was the fire to your house? >> it may have been in my house i don't know i am in malibu right now near the coast near pch and many structures around me almost all the structures around me of burnt. so i still haven't gotten confirmation whether my home is
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there or gone. >> sean: not a good feeling let's go to the story you told we have similar blue-collar roots you wanted to be a fireman. basically you're told to be contacted in seven years into happened you go in and show up and tell the story again what actually happened? >> the letter went to the old house i lived in for my dad's home i was a construction worker for seven years but i figure i would take the test on a whim it was on a saturday i stood in line know is asking others around me when did you sign up they so thought it was bizarre i signed up seven years later when i asked the person behind me who is 5-foot nothing she said three days ago. >> sean: what is your reaction as the mayor was in ghana comes
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back asked a lot of questions we just played her nonresponse. is that her answer to the people of los angeles losing everything? >> that's how we are city officials are left-leaning and deep blue they get angry if you ask them substantive question they are not even used to asked those questions because the medias in their pocket. and they don't even know how to react without the question is asked. >> sean: are there efforts you know of in southern california to actually have control burns any efforts you know of to remove the brush which is the candling for fires like what we are watching tonight. >> we had a major fire in malibu three and a half weeks ago.
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this wasn't three and a half years ago or anything. this is ongoing as an issue and gavin newsom likes to say it's year-round because he wants to talk about climate change so he is aware of it and they want to blame everything on climate change but it's really there in the action that's we are in this predicament. >> sean: why are they so reluctant to use known practices that work removing the brush and the debris having control burns. where does the reluctance come from are they afraid of endangered species if they are doing this for the environment that sounds great on paper but i would imagine the skies over los angeles and the pacific palisades aren't exactly the healthiest in the country.
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>> first things first the second donald trump said to clean up the forest that's when you knew it wouldn't happen whatever he says we do the opposite he wants to build a wall on the border we want to tear it down he likes ivermectin we say go way we reject everything he does so, yeah, and the state is run by a handful of environmental lunatics like the coastal commission it's eight or 12 unelected people deciding what goes on in the entire state it's how it's always been lunatic nut jobs running everybody else into the ground. >> sean: so the odds are high you lost your house today? >> a coin toss at best. i've seen the footage of houses around my house that burned to
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the ground there is some hope my house is still intact but if it is it's a miracle. >> sean: unbelievable. the fact the government would put environmental concerns and allow an environmental disaster in its place is unbelievable to me. any message for these elected officials anything to say any last words? >> yes, you will lose a whole lot of votes if you don't get it together people you have to understand malibu the palisades santa monica these are deep blue progressive cities who bow and fund-raiser money and bend over backwards for these people but they don't have a house anymore because of you. so i would get it together. >> sean: i don't know i don't have faith in the people of
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california to turn the state read anytime soon but i pray for the people of california you and your neighbors and everybody. i hate seed people's lives up in flames like we are watching today. godspeed might friend we pray for everyone out there. joining me know his fox news contributor leo 2.0 along time l.a. resident. let's get the reaction to all of this. i don't want to politicize things but our first concern has to be the people in their property and their livelihood. we don't want it going up and fire and could this have been everywhere and potentially prevented? >> i wrote a book about this my mission to rescue the golden state and save a nation all of it is preventable and i'm in the same boat as
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adam carolla. i don't know where my home is standing. it's half hours away from where did i live there for 24 years got a notice and i should be prepared to evacuate. as poor management to poor water management mismanagement a budget and the fire chief concerned about dei putting together a three-year program and all this stuff is preventable. with shortages or man-made. entirely preventable over and over again had a chance on running for the recall election and they said over and over again stop republican takeover. and not doing a good job on schools or water retention anything. with 10,600 acres now gone and well over a thousand with five people dead let's get the
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reaction is everything is unfolding before our eyes here. >> you can't deny how political this is. this is my evacuation clothes that's how i've been dressed all day and i've been living right next to santa monica. and it's clear as possible. i saw them give an idiotic press conference and 28% don't have water. 200 why is she in africa. why she on a tour it makes no sense they can tell you right now that dei nonsense they support that stuff will end january 2025. to have dei and have social justice in the fire department. this is ridiculous zero containment after two days and
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no intention of putting out those fires. this is crazy as people are on pins and needles i've never in my light time watch politicians allowing the city to burn like this only because they get elected over and over again. citizens you need to wake up this is ridiculous. >> sean: i had no idea your home was in jeopardy that's unbelievable to me what do you make of outgo ahead. >> i'm right next to santa monica near the fox news bureau and were on the border a santa monica right next to the pacific palisades so i'm in striking distance and it happened last night when our power went out then it got restored.
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we are in a danger zone and these politicians are taking victory laps i'm sick and tired a 15 height and 20 people standing in front of a microphone trying to take credit for a disaster. gavin newsom is a disaster as is karen bass. if trumps it is hot they say cold if he says yes, they say no it's ridiculous. they don't want to do it's in the best interest of the people. >> sean: what's your reaction she comes back from ghana and has asked questions and she wouldn't give any answer at all whatsoever. >> she was attending the inauguration of the new head of ghana. i wonder whether a she will attend the inauguration of trump and this is on the feet of democrats there hasn't been a republican elected in california in 20 years they have super majorities in the senate and super majorities in the assembly to pass whatever job killing
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stupid job training deal they want without any republican input whatsoever. it's a result of the republicans and people need to wake up the people they editorialize in favor of every left-wing policy you want we got millions of people who have left california average it's two times that of the national average and we have a huge unfunded pension all because of the way these democrats have mismanaged the state for decades. now to point this is been going on a couple of days and we are at 0% in terms of what is being contained with the fire. 15,000 acres and made a mistake we have five people dead and thousands of homes burning to the ground and it seems like there is been zero forest management by the government at
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all. zero. none whatsoever is there anything are there any controlled burns are there ever cleaning out the brush does it have to do with environmental reasons from my view obedient environmental disaster. is it that they are concerned about endangered species. what is the rationale what is the reason behind not practicing the science of forestry. >> it's not a priority to the far left i want to be clear as possible. this state is hijacked by the extreme left. remember the socialist mayor who said castor was a great guy. they deny responsibility by yelling out climate change i've heard that before the show it's climate change. that's alive. it's poor management on the part of the democrat. they don't look at fire prevention.
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it's a basic forestry as a priority. it's climate change and ev mandates and preventing oil drilling. it's dei which is so sickening what does it have to do a putting out fires you've got a city fire chief who thinks that's the number 1 issue its insulting and you know what i blame voters and i blamed the media. you thank national b media is biased local media kiss the ring at the democrat party they do nothing they don't ask the right questions. >> sean: it's moved him to the hollywood hills in santa monica. i mean how bad can it get. >> where i lived him frequently without power this morning i had power my neighbor didn't. as i just said i got a notice that i should be prepared to
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evacuate so it could get worse. they are absolutely right i blame the voters. i went to a restaurant had a long conversation with a bunch of liberals they agreed with me about crime and force mismanagement the failure to retain water and like you didn't vote for me did you have a conversation with a republican and they said no, they live in their bubble they been indoctrinated to believe if you are republican it's essentially a four-letter word it doesn't matter how bad gavin newsom is or how bad democrats are republicans are racists. if you're a black person you are a sellout. the writer called me a black white supremacist that's how bad the media is in california. >> sean: if the wind keeps up really go to the hollywood hills is santa monica next how far and wide will it spread.
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>> you been in california for a long time these winds are historic is impossible to sleep at night impossible to close her eyes. you don't know what direction the wind will take the fire we know and you can show the number again ladies and gentlemen zero containment after two days with alleged resources coming in. joe biden talking about his granddaughter not talking about the people in the city. they don't care. >> sean: sorry that both of you are going through this and sorry about all the people in southland's having to live for this as well again i believe it's a very preventable. make no mistake what you are witnessing tonight out of california is catastrophic here is a small example of what the past 24 hours have been like take a look at this.
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>> it's like driving through itself down here. >> you need to evacuate. >> we have a couple let loose over there were tracking is managed as we can. >> the fire is moving so fast and exploding because of the wind it's so intense. >> you good. >> that's not going to do anything. >> you're talking with people
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you have lost their homes. here of more the former mayoral candidate and businessman rick caruso who is with us. this was an issue in the campaign we know the mayor was in ghana and we know she came back and was asked questions we know she refused to answer any questions what is your reaction. >> first of all thanks for shining a light on this it's an incredibly devastating time in the city entire neighborhoods and is watching what you put up on the screen doesn't even paint 1% of the picture entire neighborhoods being wiped out in los angeles. and we've got brave firefighters risking their lives to fight these fires but with the palisades fire they were standing there with hoses with no water on them.
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hydrants were dry and firefighters were complaining demanding water and it was the most devastating and unbelievable see in to watch somebody's home and businesses and burned to the ground and a firefighter can't do anything about it. we've got a leadership issue here and tough questions that need to be answered and we need to get to the bottom of it. >> sean: how do they even put it out i mean to every firefighter out there god bless all of them putting their life on the line here. especially with the santa ana winds blowing. and the most shocking thing about this is that there is no water. the hydrants had no water how is that possible? >> two things came together it's possible to answer your question because you have mismanagement
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price for. >> will you make of the mayor cutting 17.6 million from the firefighter budget while simultaneously getting a 400 million-dollar grant from the federal government and additional $250 million to make the port of los angeles environmentally safe or up-to-date or whatever and green i don't know what they were trying to do there. where your priorities? >> the priorities in the city are a problem. every city number 1 priority should be the health and wellness and safety of residents. so fire paramedics and police that needs to be on the top line of the budget and that's where resources should go. this city has been underfunded for years. we have fire stations in the city of los angeles that can't
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open and be used as a don't have the funding prior to them reducing funding further. it was an insane move to do that and if you talk to firefighters privately they will tell you they haven't had the resources to fight major fires in the state. we don't have the resources to deal with the homeless problem or the drug problem. the number 1 fire station in the country is a los angeles fire station number 11 and it's the busiest because it deals with people overdosing on the str streets. >> sean: if your elected different what would you have done differently in the lead up? >> first of all you clean the brush second of all you make sure the infrastructure is working. you put the right leadership in place making decisions you put the protocols in place and to be honest i would actually be here i wouldn't be out of town i
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wouldn't be out of the country on a world tour. i think leadership starts first and foremost with showing up then you make good smart tough decisions. our prayers are with the people in your city and i hope the people wake up and hopefully elect more responsible government down the line. this shouldn't happen. firefighters lives are at risk they don't have water to put these fires out and as of now zero containment spreading into the hollywood hills and is spreading into other areas like santa monica. no control of this at all whatsoever. thank you rick. and earlier tonight president-elect donald trump and the first lady made a visit to the u.s. capitol rotunda to pay respects to former president jimmy carter. they will also be at his funeral tomorrow.
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trump also met with senate republicans to get a head start on implementing his agenda. joining us now is the senators from missouri and it's good to have both of you. some of the best teams but i guess josh we start with you. first of all my sources tell me the meeting was phenomenal and that the agenda was pretty much agreed-upon my sources say it was lighthearted and funny, serious on the other side but in a good way and that the only question was whether you do it in one bill or two. where do you stand on it? >> we should do with the president wants to do there and your sources are right it was a great meeting and what stood out to me is he's got the country so energized again a sense that america is back on the move that we are done apologizing for our past we talk about the panama canal why did we ever
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give away it why do we apologize for being a strong great country with trump we will start standing up and reclaiming our history reclaiming american greatness any talked about getting the panama canal back getting the country and the move opening up energy production closing the borders doing all that in the first day and first hundred days for sure. people feel the energy and momentum. >> sean: what is your take senator and what are your thoughts on a better strategy is it to go with one bill or two bills or what what you think is the right answer? >> josh has already it was like a triumphant return in quite frankly the greatest political comeback in american history. he had a standing ovation and was clear i spent time with him on the campaign trail and it was clear about what he wanted to do. secure the border and be energy development and once an economy that works for families and to
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be respected around the world. republicans are committed to getting that done and it's important that to get some wins on the board for them so having reconciliation packages is in the weeds but giving him a win on the border and with the deportation plan i thank you will see a flurry of executive orders to deliver on what he talked about in the campaign that we will deport the criminals in this country illegally. we want to make sure they resources for the military and for us to be energy dominant and in a last gasps of one of the worst presidential terms in history from joe biden on his way out he just locked up about $60 trillion worth of revenue with the offshore drilling ban and trump will come in and done
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do that so we can be energy dominant again but i think we ought to get a bill done early and get it done in the summer time. let's get some points on the board here. >> sean: will it get done and how quickly will it get done. >> it will get done and they just selected him with the decisive mandate and members of congress no the person they are looking to lead his donald trump. they voted for trump's agenda so you will find all republicans senate and house will get behind the agenda do with the president wants to do. the american people gave confidence in us to get the job done so we need to deliver close the border to energy production back online get the criminals off the streets once get tax relief for working families lots to do and it's time for us to get after it.
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>> sean: as wildfires continued to rage across los angeles county tens of thousands of californians were forced to evacuate their homes and on monday a friend of this program jillian michaels was in l.a. helping her elderly mother evacuate and back in 2018 she lost her home because of a fire in california and the home she's holding california also burned down last night so both homes she owned when she was in california burned it within five years and had to rescue her kids. she was an outspoken critic of gavin newsom and his policies and is calling on the governor to resign for his leadership failures during the disaster and put up a post online that said resign anyway she is the host of keeping it real our friend jillian michaels we are sorry about what you're going through. to me this is so preventable and know you're out in l.a. taking
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care of your mom and you had to evacuate her in your kids this all just came down on you pretty quickly what happened? >> it's continuing to come down i've been on the phone with my wife i relocated my mom taking her to west hollywood a fire broke out at runyon canyon my kids were relocated with my coparent over to altadena in the house they went to just burn down i don't mean to make it political but at the end of the day this has been so grossly mismanaged with regard to forestry and the water reserves in california that it should be criminal. i am outraged i have friends losing their homes people running for their lives begging for water its disgusting and we do know yes of course california has a problem with wildfires we have the santa ana winds and there is dried by -- ultimately though you can mitigate the
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situation with better management of forestry and water reserves and better preparedness. gavin newsom knew about it and said so in his own press conference and yet the national guard was called in a few hours ago. how many people were evacuated or lost their lives. sorry i'm just so madame outraged for people. >> sean: you should be. did you ever see controlled burns knowing this has always been a possibility out there. did you ever see dry brush removed did you ever think they would run out of water and the mayor would come back from ghana and have nothing to say to the people of los angeles. >> i grew up in california we did controlled burns and somewhere after the early 2000s that they slow down and
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they came to a stop. and they got into control and creating poor air quality and here's the thing. haven't we learned already controlling a burn and having it potentially get out-of-bounds is far less dangerous than what we are seeing right now and what we saw a few months ago when norther and malibu burn down. what we saw in 2018 and see year after year after year. talking about the water where do we begin? how about when californians voted on proposition one and put billions towards creating new water reservoirs. not one of those has been completed in a decade. how about the fact hundreds of billions of dollars go with one family in particular that has a big farm for pistachios and almonds. and the they donate to
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gavin newsom's campaign. how about them being neglectful in 2018 of being responsible for the campfire. donate. the list goes on and on. why weren't the reservoirs filled. why weren't the ones ordered in 2014 built why is it not. and then you have people up in arms about the fact we're diverting water because of an ecological issue. >> they are putting in the ocean. >> needs to be redirected to urban areas and i appreciate the need to protect the environment but win people are losing their lives and homes i thank you need to reassess your priorities. >> sean: they cut the firefighter budget months ago 17.6 million and allocating
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656 million for environmental causes at the ports of l.a. and i'm sorry with what you're living through and i pray for you and everybody else in the southland and i can't believe you have to live through this. unbelievable times. godspeed it is devastating. moving to the hollywood hills and santa monica and we have nothing but other incompetence all the way around. when we come back we will get a live update from the wildfire devastation in california and check in with governor gray cabot straight ahead. but it's been a few dog years since she was able to enjoy a smile of her own. good thing aspen dental offers affordable, complete care all in one place. and new patients without insurance get 29 dollar exams and xrays. plus 20% off treatment plans for everyone. loving our patients unconditionally. it's one more way aspen dental is in your corner.
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meant in east palestine and hurricane heavily in and people in north carolina and georgia and tennessee and elsewhere biden did show up for the disaster in l.a. with gavin newsom but only because he was 30 and los angeles and his remarks didn't inspire much confidence whatsoever in his leadership ability take a look. >> president joe biden: it's astounding what's happening. and we got a notification yesterday and today we weren't sure but the good news is i'm thankful. >> congrats. anyways the president-elect donald trump was slammed biden untrue social no water in the fire hydrants this is what
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joe biden is leaving me thank you joe here is to texas governor gray cabot. also they leave wide open borders you been dealing that for four years. >> missing in action joe biden. he has a habit of doing this at disaster sites remember when he was at the mall we fires in hawaii talking about a fire on his property he always tries to inject himself into a disaster someone else's dealing with and to raise his great grandchildren at a time you see homes blurting down is outrageous. what's needed is what president trump delivers. joe biden needs to stop giving money to ukraine and provide it to north carolina in this case california helping out fellow americans and securing the border instead of sacrificing america for the well-being of other countries across the globe. when trump gets back into office
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he will do what joe biden failed to do which is secure the border our biggest disaster is some more than 11 million illegal immigrants crossing the border many of whom are criminals allowed in by the joe biden administration and when they do deportations in two weeks there will be a rapid change we will have a restoration of security on the u.s. border. >> terrorists murderers and gang members there and we don't know how many ever where they are how do we find them governor . >> the reality is it's very easy to track down those with a criminal record the biden administration is just failing to do so. they will be able to go through entire jail systems in the u.s. we in texas have identified thousands of people in our jails ready for deportation and we will work with the trump
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administration to get it done. that said one thing we expect is increased activity by dangerous gangs trying to cross the border it will take ongoing efforts by texas in the trump administration to make sure we arrest those criminals and prevent them from entering the country governor you been fighting the battle alone the good news is help is on the way and it can't get there soon enough. we will takenarr a break moreis hannity straightn' ahead. crucial to new technologies. we're here, right by your side. [title: ontario, canada] [title: ontario.ca/partner] [title: paid for by the government of ontario]
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>> sean: that's our time for hannity stay with the fox news channel for continuing coverage on the california wildfires throughout the night our prayers are there with the people in los angeles and surrounding areas. set your dvr and let not your heart be troubled. trace gallagher from l.a. is live next. >> trace: good evening
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