>> sean: that's our time for hannity stay with the fox news channel for continuing coverage on the california wildfires throughout the night our prayers are there with the people in los angeles and surrounding areas. set your dvr and let not your heart be troubled. trace gallagher from l.a. is live next. >> trace: good evening it's

10:00 on the east coast and this is a special edition of fox news at night. and the most instructive fires in the history of california that is the new label given to the palisades fire as well as the eaten fire and californians are entering a second night of raging wildfires that have claimed five lives and destroyed over a thousand homes and businesses with some of the wealthiest areas in los angeles affected. and as push comes to shove southern california has a new fire burning in the hollywood hills. fire chief sig. knowledge that they do not have resources to battle two major fires much less another. >> we tried okay. [ bleeps ] >> steve's pet store has gone boxes gone.

l petrone everything in the neighborhood. altadena doesn't exist now. >> reporter: these are sparking a political firestorm revealing how unprepared leaders were for an event like this. >> we have zero percentage of containment. >> he ran california to a whole he let vegetation overgrow didn't help prepare the fire department to have resources they need. >> trace: as for the los angeles mayor here is what she had to say. >> do erie get cutting the fired apartment budget by millions of dollars mayor have you nothing to say today. and in the middle of the horror and active patriotism of firefighter claiming a flag poll to keep old glory from hitting the ground we will hear from victims and those fighting the fires in the next two hours. we have fox coverage as they are heading to the latest fire in the hollywood hills and we'll

join us in moments. christina coleman is live in altadena which is being ravaged but we begin with a national correspondent life for us in pacific palisades. jeff what does it look like tonight? >> i wish i had good news to report but the wind is picking up and we continue to see seems like this homes on fire throughout the pacific palisades. this is sunset boulevard it's one of the many stories thousands of them that we will be telling over the next couple days homes on fire like this one and spreading quickly you see the embers coming off the top of the house there when it happens the wind that picks it up it sends it to somewhere else that isn't on fire and it goes over and over again as a domino effect. you look at the power of the heat from the flames melting this car you see the mall -- medal in the ground from the heat of the flames and off into

the distance that is the main concern tonight as we stand out here in the pacific palisades it is fires coming down the hill the wind moving up there down here to the south and many of the homes as we drove in we would see them and think well that home is safe but now with the wind coming in and carrying embers down many of those homes are once again on fire. that is the story we will be telling out here tonight and with the night hours going on it makes it harder for firefighters here with a combination of how dark it is and visibility being low with the smoke and a strong wind that won't let up. >> trace: and firefighters out there are exhausted below get back to you throughout the net. the eaten fire that broke out during our coverage last night covers 10,000 acres spreading that fast. a very short amount of time now

claiming at least five lives. here is the latest on that fire. it's an up-close look at the eaten pyre fires to what are you see in? >> it's devastating as you can see immediately flames gripping through this house. it's existed more than 40 years i spoke with a gentleman who told me this belongs to the parents of his childhood friend and you could tell he was emotional. just watch it fall apart there the roof just collapsed. firefighters were here moments ago working on this house and within seconds as you read at the entry of the fire flared backup. flames ripping through the roof of the house. the fire broke out around 6:20 in the evening field by strong wind in the area and has since burned within 10,000 acres

sadly it's claimed five lives. 750 firefighters are working to put up this fire and it's damaged more than a thousand structures. it's one of many homes we passed by and you saw house after house and it was heartbreaking. we saw cars burned and they had to leave behind all their belongings leaving behind the memories and again the firefighters working hard tirelessly around the clock. the eaten fire breaking out in altadena north of pasadena yesterday evening and the scorching more than 10,000 acres and declaiming five lives a very devastating. >> trace: thank you we will get back to you it when we can.

let's bring in our local fire chief. we just got to the eaten fire last night with 10,000 acres and matt finn is making its way to the los angeles. the fire chief has already acknowledge they can't fight two fires much less three. what do you do chief do you break up resources to try and limit them to get things spread out. what's the remedy? >> as large as the metropolitan fire departments are. when you get in situations like this with multiple large wildfires nobody can do it at all so we rely heavily we don't just rely on our neighbors but ultimately if there's not enough resources through that and through the compacts we have with other states. there are plenty of resources heading into southern california right now. and we certainly need them.

what's taking place is historic. >> trace: in 24 hours went from 2900 acres to around 16,00. in that span have you ever seen a fire explode like this? >> a look at the acreage and that was a large fire and more importantly the number of structures lost. many times it takes incident management teams and those managing the fires to get an accurate total. the fires probably larger than what you're being told right now and the eaten fire i happened to be there i grew up in altadena and they had a brother who is trapped last night and they ended up responding up there to drive through the devastation. i've done this for around 47 years and i have never seen this

level of devastation i saw this morning. it is unfathomable. it reached areas i would've thought never happened. >> trace: when you're told and like many of the firefighters are told they are out of water what is this strategy. how do you go about fighting a fire with no water? >> your hands are tide rate. water is our number 1 tool that's what we bring to the fight. there is a lot of issues. and it's all about rescuing getting people out of harm's way then you get into suppression mode but if you don't have access to water you are largely debt. you might have water tenders were an ability to get from ponds and pools in those things and your hands are tied.

and thank you so much for joining us and to i know you're busy. and they are there to anchor the 4:00 p.m. show to get a first-hand issue in the devastation not only in the pacific palisades and just how fast they're able to move. >> want to give you an idea how fast the fire was moving in the early hours and how it was burned all the way down. it was 70 miles per hour this is the pacific coast highway just north of pacific palisades that was devastated. let's look at the fire vehicles going across the road and the fire came home and it crossed over and this was burned in half

and the oceanfront homes here and this is still on fire. not a lot of water in the area so as you go down the line there isn't really a lot fire crews can do to protect the rest of these homes. and with the oceanfront home and million dollars of oceanfront homes and as far as the eye can see it is home after home. just destroyed and burned to the ground. this is malibu and at the crux of the fire hasn't gotten even area. just moving in that direction and the wind is changing coming out of malibu moving back into the pacific palisades heading to santa monica with more evacuation notices for santa monica tonight so you see this constantly shifting a pattern that they are trying to go after. let's bring in the victim of the

fires jessica rogers and you lost two of your homes in the pacific palisades. you weren't living in the homes at the time but it has to be devastating. >> it's beyond devastating. i was living in one of the homes. i had to evacuate with very few pieces of clothing on me. very few items taken out of the homes. what i wanted to say in the last 48 hours is the message of hope. we have friends going in and there is footage not presented to everybody in homes decimated the village gone and everything has gone. and it truly is devastating and for the pacific palisades.

it's unbelievable to look at. you wonder how long does it take before they go back there. before they go to the market. >> as the president of the residents association the last two days i've been making calls helping to remove people from homes and the elderly and people he had been into homes we rescued a horse today and we are here to say that whatever it is we will unite and others with unity working closely with council and that the unity coming together and building back and we are here to say the devastation is not on we need to support each other. >> trace: i know you're looking at me but this is the video you took great. this is your video you took of

your homes and when you first started looking around and you go back to the homes. what were you thinking? what is it you do. what is the first thing you do. do you call insurance, was the first person you call? >> i first called my friends and neighbors. just to say and let them know their home was burnt down and then another neighbor and telling them their home burned down to my next message was we all have love in our hearts and nobody can take that away from you. as long as we can support each other which really matters in this life before we pass is the love in our hearts and the relationships we create this devastation we will overcome it and we will recover from this today. >> trace: a very strong woman we appreciate you coming on. best of luck to you as to be heartbreaking for you to see those images again and again on

national television. you and your neighbors kelly fight for this. coming up we take you back to the palisades for latest updates on fires burning more than a day and a brand-new fire burning in the hollywood hills. we just got two of the fire in eaten in the rose bowl was just a week ago. it was joy end and now you look at fires and images like this. los angeles has changed forever in the past 27 hours. we will cover the breaking news next. from vicks. >> ♪ ♪ that's why visionworks makes it simple

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>> trace: continuing coverage

as you can see altadena there the eaten fires above 10,000 acres from last check which means fires are exploding the wind is still high and the number is likely to raise significantly on the right side you see pacific palisades a few miles from where we sit here and at the fire is still burning there. wind is higher in that area because they are going up the mountains and getting momentum as they go up. so far the acreage of there is above 11,000 acres more than a thousand homes just in the pacific palisades burning to the ground including businesses and the village area which is the very heart at the area there and what you don't see on the screen is the hollywood hills. they have a brand-new fire that is growing by the moment. matt is on his way when he gets their life we will bring it to you. let's bring in an energy and

environmental legal fellow steve malloy. we talk about the fires as you see there we talk to the fire chief about running out of water and the says you can't fight fire without water. we've had two of the web-based years in california history over the past two years and yet firefighters go to put out the fire and the palisades and the fire phase you drew aren't able to pump water up what's going on? >> a lot. i mean you guys might have full reservoirs but of course the problem starts with the sacramento river valley reservoir. yet the delta smelt there and there is 100 billion gallons the year that doesn't go to southern california because of it instead of going to southern california it goes out to the pacific ocean. it's a lack of reservoirs ten years ago californians voted to

have more reservoirs but because of environmentalists and the cost which is because of environmentalists as well you can't have the reservoirs when you get to the palisades they had 3 million-gallon tanks and when those got emptied there was no water left and that's what happened yesterday. the whole thing is a cluster and until they start prioritizing real-life compared to environmentalists fantasies is like climate change i'm afraid to say we will see more this. >> it's interesting you talk about the vote that happened a decade ago about trying to build more reservoirs in the state of california to hold more water it passed they are collecting money for it but they haven't built a single thing they collect and take our money they haven't built a single thing in the decade it reminds me of the bullet train it's a reservoir to

nowhere. and then there's clearing up the land rate. santa monica mountain it's mostly chaparral which is a type of overgrowth. and it exploded in the last couple years because it was a very wet year. this year is dry season and a dryer than normal. you have these strong santa ana wind coming through and that there was a spark nobody knows where the spark came from all of a sudden you have they ascend it's a lot like what happened in maui. august 2023 right. to me the problem there was really that the government not only did they not take care of the land but they failed to warn everybody and they ran out of water which happened here the weather service provided these

warnings over the weekend and a lot of people didn't hear about it and got caught off guard. it's been a disaster. >> trace: you look at the five deaths in that area and it's because these people got out too late they just didn't get the warning they thought they would get. that's what the description is. great to have you on the show thank you sir. and coming up another look at devastating scenes a growing number at devastating scenes in the pacific palisades. pasadena and altadena and now we're arriving on scene in the hollywood hills with a brand-new fire burning there. we will bring you all of this and more as we continue breaking news coverage on the fires in los angeles. that lasts and lasts. that's my babyyy!

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>> trace: those 150,000 people under evacuation orders as the fire continues to burn. we have new information on this with jeff. >> reporter: the wind is getting stronger as we get deeper into the night and as we do a bit of a drive around the pacific palisades we see images like this one. if you are watching at home during the each home tells a story. this was somebody's dream. the american dream a place they had memories and now the fire has taken it away. we will hear a lot about that over the next couple of years as we understand the impact of the fire. just talking about how hot the fire was this was an suv which is melted metal it came off of that truck right onto the ground there liquefying. the thing we will watch tonight is what's up in the hills in the

pacific palisades. the fires coming off of the top of the mountain there being carried by strong wind and embers. the smoke as well working around the clock as we see a lot of police officers as well. dangerous conditions now with no containment on the fire. lord knows what we see in the morning when the sum -- of the comes out on this one. >> trace: a great comment. thank you jeff. and here's a look at our visit in malibu earlier today the reason we did this today as we wanted to give you an idea we've shown pictures of pacific palisades and its well warranted because the destruction is unprecedented we talked about the eaten fire and altadena and pasadena. another well warranted situation. not much coverage in malibu which got hit very hard in the

early morning hours overnight because of the really came down fast and hard so could you imagine living in an oceanfront house were the water goes beneath the house. you spend millions of $ only to see the house burned down because of a wildfire. look at what we saw tonight. >> a bit further up the road in malibu a couple miles from pacific palisades i wanted to show you how hit and miss the firestorms are looking behind me you can see the oceanfront homes on the water that are still fully intact but as you come down here few hundred yards you look at the hill over here but sought across the pacific coast highway you have a home untouched and as you go down the hill you have homes burned to the ground. i want to show you because it's interesting. you have a life guard tower there nothing happened to it untouched and then you go down

here and you walk down with me you see this car burned out. what's amazing however is you see homes untouched and burned and then you get down here close to the water. this is malibu and this is tens of millions of dollars of homes and you get down to the rocks near the ocean. you just see nothing but devastation down the coast. you look at the homes over here all of them down the beach for almost three quarters of a mile burned it to the sand. he apparently was stunned and that's bring in a los angeles fire captain now. captain i know you're on the phone now being threatened by fire and you are up in the hills in the pacific palisades. i'm wondering what are you seeing up there when you had to

get on the phone. what are you seeing and can you describe the situation? no. okay so we lost the captain but we're in the process of trying to reconnect with him. the pictures we are looking at in the palisades as well as the eaten fire are stunning. what we learned as we go throughout the day and evening what we learned about the fires is that there were a couple things that propagated flames. one was the high wind we talked to meteorologists all day long they expected last night as we hit the air that was supposed to be peak time and it would go for nine or ten or maybe another 12 hours. by 9:00 in the morning they thought the wind would calm down somewhat. but that's when the wind in the areas of the pacific palisades

and the eaten fire were as high as that they were in the middle of the night. they had a wind and altadena at 98 miles an hour. can you imagine trying to fight a fire in a category taught to a hurricane height that's what happened let's get back to los angeles fire captain who is again in the palisades up in the hills there trying to negotiate a couple of areas what are you seeing captain? [static] >> trace: we lost him again. we are trying. i guess the theme of this as i was telling you we believed at the wind would calm down this morning we sent crews to the base of malibu because they got hit really hard. there were people in a homes in

on the clips above duke's which is a very famous restaurant in malibu. there's another one in orange county and southern california. there was a duke's and people came in with the burns on their bodies as they were apparently trying to stay up and they hills and fight for their homes and got burned. we don't know the condition of those people but it's an indicator of how long because it was a cliff walk down to get to the duke's taking them some time to get down there they weren't in bad shape but they were burned and trying to fight for their homes. we went up to malibu today to get a closer look to see what exactly had happened to parts we haven't seen much of as the firefighting efforts were heavily focused on as you see hollywood hills there is a live look at our fox affiliate. one thing we've see and that is

rare there as there's water drops. you see the flames looking like redlines in the middle of the screen and at the top of the screen you see them conducting water drops in the hollywood hills now which actually is unseen in the past couple of days with the wind so high. it is a good indicator that in the hollywood hills area the wind is low enough that two things can happen. first of that these helicopters and planes can get up in the air and fly. second of all they believe the wind is at a pace or a windows speed for when they dropped the fire retardant or the water that it will hit the target. most time when the wind is so high you don't hit the target which is why they don't fly the planes. in this case there is a believe they can put it out. we haven't got numbers on how much acreage is burning in the hollywood hills and how many homes are burning but we will keep tabs on that.

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the air. you look over here on the right-hand side of your screen in pasadena that's the eaten fire. pasadena and altadena they've lost lots of homes. authorities will say they've lost dozens or hundreds of homes they won't go as far to say that it's in the hundreds were several hundred but it appears when you talk to residents on the ground that will be the outcome that's where she is live with the latest from the fire. what are you seeing? >> it's absolutely devastating out here i am watching a house burn down one of many in the neighborhood that has been destroyed as i speak i talked to the firefighters here like if there's a chance or why you guys aren't going in there and they say it's a risk assessment the way the flames are moving and how quickly the fire is burning through the structure they say it's just not worth it to go in

there and try to put this fire out. now this is the eaten fire it started yesterday altadena as well just north of pasadena in the evening since burning more than 10,000 acres and five people died from this fire just devastating more than 750 firefighters out here just trying to get the fire contained it says 0% containment now and taking a look above me there you can see the embers of there there were thousands of them shooting up from this fire into the dry brush and with the strong wind who knows where they will land and that's part of the problem. embers moving in l.a. county starting fires in different areas with thousands of personnel and hundreds of firefighters working to get control of right now. trace? >> trace: last night we were told by firefighters they were moving a thousand feet per

second which is why those homes on the ocean caught fire so fast there was no defense against it. we'll get back to you as the news warrants let's bring in this california resident group. we talked to a woman earlier who lost her home trying to get different perspectives as well and rabbi i know that you are talking with people who lost their homes and as a rabbi what do you tell them. how do you control there's consult somebody who lost their home and has no idea what the future holds when they rebound? >> the first thing is you ask how to help. we are here and sobering california we hear from family and friends first is to be practical is there any ways we can help you before doing any sermons right. for families and parents you are with kids. a bunch of refugees what you say

to them. you say thank you to the first responders hopefully you see the parent crying you explain the emotion they will try to hide it right and whether it's the synagogue or the church that burned today talk about faith explain to kids and importance of community in real life not just on social media. it's a rough time i say spare the sermons just try to be there in a practical way then we can come back together as a community it's not the buildings it's the spirit of the people who will rebuild. >> i'm like you i worry about the children my worry how the children will take this mentally and physically you don't know sometimes for a lot of years how they process this. >> every child every family unit will be different but with tv and social media and friend seeing burned down after the initial glee at so my whole

world is coming apart. that's where parents might be grieving who asked to step up and play that role and to use it as an opportunity. as a way to share what they are feeling and then come together whether you are a christian or or muslim rc we have all stripes in california. community hope and faith. >> trace: and anthony your children were affected, both in ms. -- middle school in the palisades and your son is supposed to go to high school next year at palisades high school which suffered not disk directive damage but it's interesting. >> it's a lot of advice there in terms of plans and everything it's a day by day planned in

terms of where they go to school tomorrow will it be online because their schools that shut down in that area. but in terms of plans of my son going to what is a pretty historic high school in the los angeles area known for its academics as of now that's out the door but our safety is the most important thing. i'm happy the men and women got my case out of -- kids out of there and got them to safety. >> trace: yap in the truth is the kids here right they went for covid-19 and lost schooling them. now they are in the same bandwagon again we don't know the mental repercussions for quite some time about it. >> a good point to because my kids are finishing elementary school they went from a pampered environment elementary gives you to this uncertainty and when things are finally getting on track a couple years after the pandemic they go through this. we don't know but what we can do is just be supportive.

>> rabbi any advice for him and their kids. >> don't pamper them, don't hide the truth but help them and make them a part of the process to help rebuild the community. >> trace: thanks to both of you best of luck. we check back in with our reporters on the ground in los angeles to give you the latest update on the new fire breaking down in the hollywood hills. this has officials concerned. more next. you don't have to settle. ask your gastroenterologist if switching to rinvoq is right for you. it's one of the latest treatments from the makers of humira. rinvoq works differently than humira and may help. rinvoq is a once-daily pill that can deliver rapid symptom relief, lasting steroid-free remission, and helps visibly reduce damage of the intestinal lining. rinvoq can lower ability to fight infections. before treatment, test for tb and do bloodwork. serious infections, blood clots, some fatal; ...cancers, including lymphoma and skin;

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we told you about the new fire raging for the hollywood hills they are calling the sunset fire and telling residents they must leave and fast. matt leifer us on the phone is on the scene what are you looking at? >> there's an active fire and am watching it move north from runyon canyon this is an active fire and we could see the glow of the fire lines with the dry brush around here surrounded by fire apparatus and police vehicles numerous firefighters on scene or here right now and we see shoppers in flames above with the evacuation should be adhered to in this area it's a

threat to any structures or homes in this area and from either antigen point i would say the scale of this fire and the pace it's moving is not comparable at this moment to fires we saw along the pacific coast highway. it's an active fire the wind is blowing very strongly so we know that the wind it can carry embers and land anywhere in and around west hollywood. we will keep you updated. >> trace: we bring in our california panel. we have lisa crause, a local dr. huntington beach attorney and michael gates. and she was silent for 45 seconds the mayor didn't say a word about anything. >> how long was the ride from ghana back to the city that elected her mayor.

her pr team in social media and marketing team couldn't come up with a fluffy comment to make silence was deafening and i think we need to play that on repeat when she runs for reelection. >> trace: here's a resident who was evacuated from fox news. >> you don't know where my mayor was when this was happening. nobody told us where to go or what to do i didn't have an evacuation order. i love the fire department and our fire personnel but we need more where were they. >> trace: zero guidance michael. >> we elect officials to take care of these situations and be prepared. it was made a priority to focus on being a sanctuary city and the priority to combat homelessness and hasn't addressed those she went to washington, d.c., and got 22 million for illegal immigrants. we have folks here devastated by

the fire and fire hydrants are dry and unmanned. she cut $18 million from the fire department budget. a complete lack of prioritize asian and a wrong focus. and win the fire chief was asked if they were prepared for the said they didn't have the resources. >> and you see the impact of that. the job of government is to be prepared for low probability high-impact events. we don't have the atm or be team in charge. we are going to have an earthquake at some point and when that hits which it will could happen tomorrow or ten years we don't know but it will do you want this team in charge. no, and right now these guys have failed repeatedly. i don't think they have any standing to be in power. >> trace: very quickly around the horn here because trump warned newsom about this years

ago. >> a lot of us have been awarding the state of california about this for a long time. the year i moved here in 2014 voters said we need to be filling these reservoirs and make sure we have water treatment facilities in place. making sure we are sustainable and jerry brown did nothing, gavin newsom did nothing. these are clips that should be on repeat if he decides to run for president. >> i would have vice president trump that when he takes office what he should do is claw back the 22 million funding from los angeles and illegal immigrant report that karen bass wants to award to immigrants and redirected to people suffering from the fires. >> trace: how we did you deal with the fire? >> we are back in the house tonight we hope things go well. >> trace: we are back at the top of the hour. no middleman. no folks in suits

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america's late news, "fox news @ night". again, breaking tonight, the most destructive fires in the history of california, that is what they are now calling the palisades fire and the eaton fire. and californians are entering a second night of raging wildfires, many of them are out of their homes having already been evacuated. the players have already claimed 5 lives, destroyed well over 1000 homes and that was an early count. and some of the wealthiest areas of los angeles, and now push comes to shove as southern california has a new fire burning in the hollywood hills. fire chiefs have already acknowledged that they do not have the resources to battle two major wildfires, much less a third. we have matt finn at the new fire and hollywood hills that has reached 20 acres. what is it looking like there? this is the first report we have seen in this area. matt finn, show us around. >> reporter: trace, we got on seen a short while ago.

a bit of good news, i spoke to la fire and they tell us that this fire right now appears to be within their control. they are not calling it contained but you can see the glow and the glare from the fire line basically inside run you and canyon. it is very windy out here so we are seeing emperors flying around just like in the pacific palisades but i can report that what i'm looking at is nowhere near the scale and the speed of the fire in the palisades last night. however there is a mandatory evacuation in and around the area. people absolutely should be abiding by that because unfortunately anyone of these embers we know could fly up into the air and land anywhere. what we are seeing right now appears to be a fire that is within the control of la fire. they are not using the word contained but they do not seem as urgently concerned about this as they were with the fires over the pch. there was a lot of fire apparatus around here, a lot of fire vehicles, police vehicles

got a large number of firefighters ready to combat the fire. you can also see the choppers and the aircraft above. a bit of good news, hard to believe that we are reporting on yet another fire here in los angeles. mind you i am miles and miles inland from the palisades in the malibu area where those players continue to burn and destroy structures tonight. we are now in lent the hollywood hills, the famed runyon canyon trail way, that's where this fire is building. tons of homes and businesses at the foot of these hills and beyond on mulholland drive, that's a we got here, a lot of homes up there. obviously still a dangerous scene but if there's any good news to report, it's that the fire seems to be within the control of firefighters. >> trace: we are hoping firefighters are correct on this one. we will get back to you in moments, thank you. the eaton fire which broke out during our coverage last night now covers more than 10,000 acres and has taken at least five lives. christina coleman is live with the very latest on that fire. christina, what are you seeing?

>> reporter: hello trace. i am seeing a fire ripped through this house. you can take a look there, the flames just destroying this building. i'm told this house has been around for more than 40 years. i spoke to a gentleman who told me that the parents of his childhood friend lived here and, you know, clearly thank goodness they are gone, they are out of here, but take a look at their home. it is being destroyed. this fire sadly has claimed the lives of five people has scorched more than 10,000 acres insert broker yesterday. it is 0% contained. as of now, 70,000, more than 70,000 people have been impacted by either evacuation orders or warnings in the area due to the eaton fire and it continues to burn out of out of control. just driving here, just driving through this neighborhood was such a sad scene. use all row after row of burnt

homes, destroyed buildings, there's been more than 1000 structures that have been damaged or destroyed from this fire. and you see the cars, the vehicles that have obviously been left behind. just a very sad situation. again, firefighters working around the clock to get the fire under control. again, it is at 0% containment as of now. firefighters have a lot of work to do. >> trace: a lot of work left. christina coleman live on the scene, thank you. "fox news at night" was in the field today. one, to anchor the 4:00 p.m. show, and to get a first-hand look at the devastation in malibu. we have been kind of framing this as a fire by fire. we get live pictures, you see the hollywood hills there, you see the pasadena fire, the eaton fire, you see what's happening in the pacific palisades with the palisades fire but we did not see a lot of video coming up of malibu. one because pacific coast highway for the most part was

shut down because the fires were so bad. we wanted to get a look, wanted to show you what those oceanfront homes look like, what it looked like right on the ocean and how fast that fire moved. >> i want to give you an idea of how fast the fire was moving in the early hours. you see this hillside here, how it was burned all the way down. the winds were 70 plus miles per hour. this is the pacific coast highway. right now we are in southern malibu, just north of pacific palisades that was devastated. we will let the fire vehicles go across and we will walk across the road. the fire came down this hill and then it crossed over pacific coast highway. you can see some of the power lines here. this poll was burned in half. as you walk over here you can see the oceanfront homes. this one is clearly still on fire. there's not a lot of water in this area so as you go down the line there's not really a lot that fire crews can do to protect the rest of these homes.

but if you come over here you can see the ocean and the oceanfront homes. multimillion dollar oceanfront homes. and as far as the eye can see down here, it is home after home destroyed, burned to the ground. and this is malibu, where the crux of the fire has not even gotten to yet. >> trace: those are the homes that celebrities lived in forever, they are right there. you can see them as they drive up the pch, the homes are right on the side and the front of the house, if you've ever been in them, is on the water. the ocean actually comes underneath the house, that's how close they are. to see them burnt down to the sand is a site. we will take you further into malibu as the show goes on. meantime let's bring in orange county fire chief as well as los angeles fire department captain. gentlemen, thank you. chief, the la fire, the la county fire chief has pretty much acknowledged that la does

not have the resources to fight these fires, especially two massive fires at a time. we are looking at a smaller fire but still a third player is now burning. clearly the resource issue needs to change. >> i would say this, when the winds blow like they do, historic in terms of velocity and duration, there's no fire department that is capable of having enough resources to battle one of these fires and contain them themselves. we long realized that for decades and we depend very much on the mutual aid system. when there's a fire in orange county, i reach out to the chief in la city and the chief in la county and they sent me resources. what week cannot handle beyond that, we go to the mutual aid system and get those resources. the challenge is we don't get them here fast enough. when the winds are blowing like we have all seen and homes are being destroyed, again there's

very little we can do even if we had another thousand fire engines. >> trace: and captain scott, if you go up in our commanding crews and trying to tell people what to do and you find out you are low on water or you find out that the fire hydrants are not producing water, what do you do, how does the strategy change when you are fighting a fire? >> i will get to that in a second. one thing i would like to piggyback on his you have shown an amazing array of the devastation. to make this really simple to your viewers, what we want them to know right now, if you live in a brush area be prepared to evacuate and evacuate early. that is one of the biggest problems that we are having right now. as the chief mentioned, no fire department is going to be able to put these claims out when we are having 100 mile-per-hour guests. that is just not there. back to your question, yes, we have had some challenges with water pressure, particularly in

the pacific palisades fire. i talked really close with dwp today and we tried to figure out what they can do to help. so they did fill the available water storage tanks, including three 1 million-gallon tanks that are in the palisades area. but it's really this simple, it's going to be impacted at the higher elevations. it's hard to get the pressure up when we are using so much water. it's made for domestic water supply. you are turning on your faucet and taking a shower, not pouring huge gpm's to fight countless structure fires. it's going to take an extreme demand, it's very difficult to refill them in time and so we have to triage those homes. do you have proper brush clearance? if not, good luck. >> trace: something chief that you would also recommend, the clearing of the brush? we talked about this earlier, we were on the air last night and

they were saying the fire was at 2900 acres and now you are talking about 11,000. it's a pretty good clip and i know the wind is pushing that but also the brush. we had very wet years over the past couple of years and you see this brush, you see it's very green, it's very high and then all of a sudden we have seven months where it's dry and that brush is very hot and very dry. >> i think the estimates on size are actually pretty conservative right now. i think you will see those go up. what we share often, an effort captain scott share the same, is that a lot of people don't realize that we went through many years of drought before we had those two years you are talking about rain. once the southern california chaparral dies, it's generally drought resistant, but it cannot survive more than three or four years without the water it needs. all that did is still on those hillsides, gets mixed in with

the green live brush that eventually dies. so that also contributes to the rapid spread that we are seeing out these fires. so let's not forget, we went through nearly ten years of drought. that dead vegetation is still on the side of the mountains. >> trace: a very good point. captain scott, when the wind is down, i mean we are clearly -- on the left-hand side of the screen, that's video. the winds appear to be dying down a bit tonight. does the strategy change or is it all hands on deck to try to get control of these things now? >> the wind dying down greatly assists us. last night was horrific. we had to ground our aircraft which it just becomes absolutely too dangerous to fly in, the water coming up of the bottom is absolutely ineffective to hit it's target. he gets vaporized. so today because it's gotten last, our aircraft is really making some strategic pinpoint drops. that's why our hollywood hills

fire that's burning right now underneath the hollywood hills sign and near the 101 is we are getting a decent handle on it. it's about 20 acres but you go back to yesterday and we knew that if we did not catch a fire within the first 20 minutes, it's going to go to thousands of acres and that's exactly what happened. we are getting a little bit of a low but we have a lot of fire burning out there. >> trace: i'm wondering chief, when will we find out how the fires started. you would think by now we could trace the origin. >> you would think so but it's a little bit more complicated than that. once they have identified that point of origin, those arson investigators literally sift through, you know, every grain of sand, everything that may be out there. we really don't know. it's not a matter of -- i hear this all the time, that we are not being transparent. it's not that at all, it's just we want to be absolutely sure before we voice a determination.

>> trace: yeah. chief, we appreciate your time, captain scott, thank you so much for coming on. good information. coming up, victims of the los angeles wildfires join us live onset with their stories. that's coming up next as you are looking live at the hollywood hills. they are telling us it's 20 acres, a very small fire right now, but in these winds and these conditions small fires as we have learned over the past 35 hours, small fires become very big dangerous deadly fires. we will keep our eye on this and the other two fires as we continue breaking news coverage on "fox news at night". of the fires in los angeles. ♪ ♪ ally philosophize about it, there's one thing you don't have enough of, and that's time. time is a truly scarce commodity. when you come to that realization, i think it's very important to spend time wisely. and what better way of spending time than traveling,

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>> trace: continuing our breaking news coverage of the wildfires in los angeles. at least six wildfires are currently burning right now, ravaging the greater los angeles area. the latest one igniting in the past hours. this one in the hollywood hills, called us onset fire, threatening the historic hollywood entertainment district, prompting urgent evacuations. meantime, the major palisades and eaton wildfires covering a combined 26,000 acres. remember last night we were talking about hundreds of acres, now we are talking about thousands and thousands. it continues to grow. 0% containment. officials say they do not have enough firefighters to battle all the blazes but their efforts are clearly heroic nonetheless. our next guest have felt the impacts first hand. california residents... thank you for coming on. you evacuated your home in santa monica last night, was it a process, how was it, was it frightening to not know if you were going to come back and see

your house again? tell us what happened. >> absolutely. i was starting to get calls from my friends, are you okay, because i did not watch the tv during the daytime. i was working in downtown santa monica and i'm just coming back home and i'm seeing the crowds just 90% -- the ground 90% lack and i'm seeing that palm trees come to the ground. i may need to do something and the people started to panic. >> trace: was it the right move? >> i think so. i can feel the air that is kind of coming into my lungs and it's impacting my breathing. >> trace: it's interesting because jessica lost two homes in pacific palisades. a different feeling. you have conclusion, as awful as it is. what's next? >> right now we have an

opportunity for justice and accountability. we have an opportunity for los angeles to change the system of failure. our county has taken over our emergency management system, they took it away from the sheriff's department in 2020. it's time for accountability and justice, it's time for los angeles to stand up. we are all hurting right now and it is time for us to stand up and fight back for our homes and for our safety. our city has wasted billions of dollars on what they call a humanitarian crisis, when what they have done is stolen from the safety of our residents. >> trace: and a lot of people, rabbi, you've talked about this, a lot of people you've talked to have lost homes. you are trying to guide them through this but it's not easy. >> i think the first thing to do is to not just say it will be better, everything is going to be great. the first thing you need to save as someone, how can i help you? here in southern california we have a lot of people with no family, no close friends, they

need help. find out what that help is and see if you can be of assistance. and then you can go into the aspects of reassuring, reconnecting and bringing up if you will connecting to the spiritual values over the temporal. but when you lose your home, it's not a time for initially talking about spirituality. you have to be there in a practical way. >> trace: anthony, you have two students, two children who are in middle school in the palisades. middle school did not suffer any damage or significant damage but the high school did and your son goes to high school next year. there's going to be an adjustment. >> yeah, and it's going to be huge, you know, i think we kind of a lot of times we as adults kind of forget about what kids are going through. these are very emotional times and they are already going through so many things just do to their growth process. so something like this can be

mentally and emotionally taxing and tolling on young children. my son is 14, my daughter is 12 and they were at the school when the fire broke out. it was an issue with them getting down the hill, you know, to a safer area. i think -- thank the firefighters were getting them there but it's been a process. when you have kids you worry about your kids than yourself, you know, and that is one of the things that i, you know, just want to imprint, that we need to think about the children and see what we can do to make sure that they are safe first and then from there we will handle all of the property and other things that's lost. my heart goes out to people, but they can be replaced i think. >> trace: is that the anxiety of having to leave your house or the waiting after you leave your house that is more painful? >> the anxiety of going to sleep was pretty severe because you

just don't know. i completely understand, i have kids. all of my kids friends, we went to the palisades back to the school being burned right now. all of our friends and families are being impacted. the trauma -- i'm a therapist actually, so it's very ironic as a therapist watching this ptsd developing in a community as a therapist. we need care and we need help. >> trace: yep. you talk about the system failing, the emergency system failing. do you think this prompts change, do you think that we see change or do we just kind of fall into the same? >> i want you to know that i have changed overnight. waking up to homes being destroyed and children's memories destroyed will change a person and i will tell you that every single resident right now who is having to be evacuated, who is watching these fires, who has lost a home or who is in

fear of losing something like this will immediately reestablish their priorities and absolutely this is a time for change. hope is the key to creating change and los angeles, i cannot say that this tragedy is a gift, but what i can say is it is going to force us to the reality of what matters most, our children, our future, the future of the communities we love, and what we have built in the past and what we are already to build together and what we have been doing for the last 48 hours and we will continue to do so until everybody is taken care of. >> trace: how would you respond to that? >> i think of two statements laid -- by simon wiesenthal. number 1, hope lives when people remember. secondly, freedom is not a gift from heaven, you have to fight for it every day. >> trace: very true. anthony, the same thing, as the rabbi was saying you also have to talk to the kids and you have

to talk to your kids because that is the most important thing. we have no idea post covid how these kids react it -- reacted to covid until we found out a few years later that the information was not good that we were getting. now there's another disruption. >> and that is the thing, it's a lack of kids not having normalcy, some type of plan. most people know that that's what kids attach themselves to, the stability and things like that. that stability is interrupted in something like 100 year it -- something that hasn't happened in 100 years with the pandemic and now a fire it so close to them. these things will take time to heal and we will find out the effects later on. now i take the advice of the rabbi. i think jessica has made a good point, that the kids do have some memories and i think that's what we've got in the end, memories. >> trace: even the children in north carolina because of the hurricanes, the big hurricanes in the summer, the children are displaced as well and some of these areas.

the same thing, they need constant encouragement. thank you all, best of luck to all of you and thank you for coming on. up next we will check back in with our brave reporters who are out in the field in and around these fires throughout the los angeles area tonight. as we continue our breaking news coverage on the fires in los angeles. ♪ ♪ years of hard work. decades of dedication. committed to giving back. you've been there, done that. and you're still here for more. so now that you're 50 or older, and at increased risk for pneumococcal pneumonia and ipd be proactive with capvaxive- a vaccine specifically designed for adults to help protect against pneumonia and invasive disease caused by certain types of pneumococcal bacteria. capvaxive is the only vaccine that helps protect against the strains that cause 84% of ipd in adults 50 or older compared with up to 52% by other pneumococcal conjugate vaccines.

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i'm standing basically in the middle of the famous runyon canyon trail. you can see the grid of los angeles behind me. below these hills is west hollywood where the mandatory evacuations are. the fire itself, the fire line is moving and expanding within the runyon canyon area. la fire telling me and you that they feel like they have a hold on this thing, that they've got a handle on it, but there are winds and we are seeing the flames and embers being spread by the winds. unfortunately we know that the winds have been a very consistent factor in the fires here in the los angeles area over the past two days now. so there is no telling what can happen out here but fortunately fire telling us that they feel that they've got some control of this one here in the west hollywood area. if you are in this area or under the evacuations, please take them seriously. what we think is happening here, the aircraft above us is likely

getting water from the lake hollywood reservoir. not far from me is the famous hollywood sign. off in the distance. is not lit up right now, it's beneath that line of lights on that hilltop there. we are seeing aircraft going back-and-forth in that area and coming back and dumping water on the fire so the aircraft you're likely getting water from the reservoir which is beneath that sign. we will keep you updated from the west hollywood area. back to you. >> trace: please do. matt finn live in the hollywood hills, thank you. more than 150,000 people now under evacuation orders as the fires in los angeles continue to burn. the national correspondent jeff paul is back live in pacific palisades with new information on that fire. jeff. >> reporter: trace, despite all the firefighters, we are seeing out and about in the pacific palisades, this fire it still 0% containment. a big part of the reason why is this, scenes like this. looks like an apartment complex and i don't know if you can hear

it, i'm going to stop talking for one second. we think that is possibly a gas line that just exploded joe shortly before joining you on air. this is just one of the hard things that firefighters out here are facing. not only the fire but the things that are burning inside, possibly exploding. you can smell the natural gas in the air. either smells like propane -- propane or natural gas and you can hear that kind of hissing. there was an explosion earlier but this is what we are seeing all throughout pacific palisades. you see a house that's on fire and then you will see downwind another one start to set on fire. it's this constant back-and-forth that these firefighters are trying to put out some of these fires before they further spread. but once they get somewhere, another one starts and we have those strong gusts of wind that are still picking up as we speak right now. it does seem like the fire has

laid it down just a little bit, as they typically do in the evening hours. we did not see that last night. it seems like it's laying down a bit but again the gusts of wind continuously pick up and start fires just like the one behind me here. >> trace: unbelievable. jeff paul live on scene at pacific palisades, thank you. at least five people have been killed in the eaton fire and officials. there could be even more. christina coleman is back live from altadena, california. christina. >> reporter: hello trace. we are reporting from this deadly fire, pacific gas & electric ted cruz out here moments ago looking through debris to make sure there are no gas leaks. also plenty of embers and small hot spots in some of these homes that have burned down. some of the debris here. that's what firefighters are concerned about. they do not want these embers and hot spots, they don't want them to spark and start an even bigger fire in the area. the eaton fire is at 0% containment.

it broke out yesterday in altadena just north of pasadena. more than 750 firefighter personnel working around-the-clock to try to try and get this fire under control. since it started yesterday it has scorched more than 10,600 acres and again, five people have lost their lives from this fire. i know we are looking at this debris here,'s house that burned down, but across the street, just as i was reporting the previous hour, across the street i'm watching another home completely burnt down. i mean it is just absolutely devastating. so many people in this community, this tight-knit community starting their new year off with this tragedy. again, this fire continues to burn out of control with those erratic winds sparking up these flareups so we will continue to monitor this but again, just another community devastated by some of the wildfires ripping

through la county. back to you. >> trace: christina coleman live on scene in altadena. back to you as the news warrants. questions are being asked of governor gavin newsom about what the state could have done to lessen the devastating impact of these fires. we will have more on that in moments. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ >> trace: let's get to the politics of all of this, the blame game has begun with many saying california officials like governor gavin newsom and los angeles mayor karen bass should have been prepared or better prepared for a tragedy like this. let's bring in "washington examiner" commentary writer. it's great to have you on the show. interesting, i was reading your article and it's talking about the california conflagration is not a natural disaster but gavin newsom's disaster going on to say california has not constructed a new major reservoir since 1979 meaning that even though local reservoirs were reportedly at capacity before the palisades fire, dozens of fire hydrants in the coastal city are completely out of water. it is interesting that we talked about this with a guest earlier, california ten years ago, 11 years ago voted to capture water. we paid money, they've been taking money to capture water.

haven't captured an ounce of water in those 11 years. >> it's the same deal as the bullet train. remember that went to ballot almost two decades ago at this point. with the reservoir situation, you saw it specifically with the palisades fire, where the fire department said that they had three separate water tanks with 1 million gallons of water each that were gone by wednesday morning. this fire started on tuesday. now you have six separate wildfires. avenue some will blame the santa ana winds, karen bass will blame the santa ana winds. the santa ana winds have been happening for centuries. dry, arid, windy and warm conditions have been part of california since before this country's founding. native americans used to do 4 million acres of controlled burns per year. under newsom, the number is at about 96,000. at our last estimate. 10% of the 1 million he promised

in 2020. >> trace: exactly right. i don't know the exact numbers but you are right, the number was extraordinarily high and it was kind of mandated and now it's almost nonexistent, the whole practice is almost nonexistent and that leads to this buildup. they have warned us about this brush build up. a fire chiefs, the firefighters warned us if you live in a brush area, it ready, be prepared because you are at some point going to face a brushfire and it could be severe, tiana. >> and it's not just the controlled burns and the total absence of them. recall that those environmental reviews that all the left-wing organizations like to push about it on an extra 4.7 average wait time to conduct a controlled burn. one scientist -- once scientist realize one is necessary. but also the water issue. is not just reservoir capacity but at a state-level the fact that gavin newsom is still trying to protect this delta smelt, the random fish in the central valley, so water cannot

pass through the state, so you wind up in this scenario where you are a stone throw away from the pacific ocean without enough water. the good news about this fire that is emerging in the hollywood hills is that it looks like the wind has slowed down just enough that they are able to do these water drops. that is why we are seeing -- we can't say it's contained but it isn't blowing out of proportion the way the palisades fire it did in a matter of hours. really we have to hope god is on our side because government is not. >> trace: tiana lowe doescher, great to have you, thank you for your time. you see the pictures on the right-hand side of the screen, that's from -- tv and los angeles. today we went to malibu, we were anchoring the 4:00 o'clock show on fox news channel and we wanted to get a closer look at malibu, especially the homes right on the ocean. if you've ever driven up the pacific coast highway, you would know that those homes on the left-hand side as you go north, you are like wow, what would it be like to live there with the water actually rolling beneath

the house. today we got a closer look at a lot of homes that did not survive this fire because of how fast the fire was moving. watch. >> a little further up the road in malibu, a couple miles from pacific palisades and i wanted to show you how hit and miss these firestorms are. if you look behind me over there, you can see all of these oceanfront homes on the water in malibu are still fully intact. but as you come down here, maybe a few hundred yards, you can see on the top of the hill over here across the pacific coast highway, you have a home that is untouched. then as you go down the hill you have homes that were burned to the ground. i want to show you this because it's kind of interesting. the pacific coast highway, you have a lifeguard tower. again, nothing happened to it, untouched. then you go down here and if you walk down with me, you can see this car burned out. but what's amazing is you see

homes untouched and you see homes burned and then you get down here as you get close to the water. this is malibu, these are tens of millions of dollars of homes and you get down here to the rocks near the ocean and you see nothing but devastation all the way down the coast. look at these homes over here. all of them, all the way down the beach, for almost three quarters of a mile, earned to the sand. -- burned -- let's bring in tonight's california panel, california g.o.p. delegate roxanne houck, california g.o.p. associate delicate, and former democratic u.s. senate candidate. we were in malibu, you were in the palisades. you just can't get it out of your bloodstream, covering fires. some of the pictures that you took, this is breaking news, the hollywood hills, we have some of the video that christina took

today, you were up there. why did you go up and what did you see. >> i don't say this lightly, it was a war zone. you think it would be getting better today as winds tapered off because yesterday was when we were looking at up to 100 mile-per-hour wind gusts but still in every direction you are looking you are seeing fires exploding and erupting. house over here on fire and over here and you are hearing those explosions and i was going down sunset and it's a very narrow road. all of a sudden you hit a big thick wall of smoke and you have to turn around and it's a very precarious situation. i understand why it was so imperative for people to get out so quickly and it's just i think when people return and see what's happened, they will be truly shell-shocked. you see the images on the news but being there, it's truly so devastating and the communities will need to rally together to move past this. >> trace: it's awful. that smoke is so thick. my hair is smoke filled.

elizabeth, clearly you are interested in this because this is the area you represent so it's interesting for you, it's fascinating, also horrific. >> it's devastating. the pinnacle of this dystopian nightmare that we have all been living in los angeles is the moment that our brave firefighters aim to their fire hoses at people's burning homes and no water came out the end of it. that is the symbolism of all of the failures of our leadership from the state, local, county, all across the board, a failure of leadership in their policies. >> trace: it's interesting roxanne hoge because we played some sound -- actually we did not play sound because you did not say anything. karen bass was asked at the airport and 45 seconds it was awkward because you would not say one word. when she did finally speak she said the following here, watch. >> we are actively fighting this fire and this is a time for

vigilance and action, not speculation. this is a time for us to come together united to protect ourselves and our families, and also each other. what we are seeing is the result of eight months of negligible rain and winds that have not been seen in la in at least 14 years. it's a deadly combination and i've been in constant contact with our fire commanders on the ground and our partners at every level of government. >> trace: the other deadly combination is leading the grass grow and letting the brush grow and not capturing the water that could help put out the fire. >> don't forget leading the hobos filled with fentanyl camp in those areas and that's when it gets windy and they light fires to keep themselves warm. karen bass is grossly incompetent and clearly they could have texted her that message that she could have read to someone in the elevator, but let's not forget the women of the view, as i call them "the 5"

little queens who are the los angeles county board of supervisors. karen bass, horrible as she is, is only in charge of the city of la. the county is what's on fire. that is 10 million people over 4000 square miles and those women, most of them, are more concerned with getting pickles the drag queen to redo your kids. >> trace: one of the things they talk about is a lack of resources. even the fire chief and la county is like we don't have the resources to cover this. you talk about the guard, i know you are a new member, congratulations on that. >> thank you. >> trace: there could be held coming. >> there is and it's a huge honor. i'm a recently sworn in warrant officer of the california state guard, they assist the national guard which was activated earlier today, thank goodness because they are going to provide a huge help in this firefight. they are providing 400 military police who are on their way right now. arriving as they speak. they are coming from all over the state. they have a task force about 200 ground crews that are trained,

they've been on the eaton fire and will continue to firefight as needed. thirdly, they have these aviation assets which are going to be huge in fighting the fire. ten helicopters, two c-130s and it could not have come at a better time. >> it really could not have. trump warrant on the joe rogan showed just a few months ago about the water. he said listen, i went to gavin newsom years ago and said do you have a drought? not really. they need to get their act together on this. >> absolutely. we all know about the water. we haven't build a water reservoir since 1979. even though we funded it. we haven't build a second desalination plant because the california coastal commission would not approve it. 50% of the rainfall and snowmelt goes into the pacific and we have no means to capture it for times like these when we really need it. >> trace: is anyone going to be held accountable, that's the

question. about 35 seconds, roxanne. >> sadly no, as long as the public sector unions are who run los angeles and california, it seems not. but this time maybe a little different. i want to point out one last thing that i would like to see, all the people saying the wealthy in the palisades got the wealthy in malibu. people losing their entire homes, history and possessions, i don't care how much you have in your bank account. >> trace: it is devastating when you lose something like that and to point fingers at people who have done very well and have beautiful homes and lost them is not the way that we should be handling these fires. thank you all for coming on, we appreciate it. our coverage of the los angeles wildfires continues at the top of the hour. stay tuned to "fox news at night" as we continue breaking one of the biggest stories to hit southern california in decades. ♪ ♪ that sor vapocool drops? it's sore throat relief with a rush of vicks vapors. ♪ vapocooooool ♪ whoa.

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it's midnight on the east coast this is a special continuation of america's late news fox news at night. the most destructive fires in the history of california is what is being said about the palisades fire and at the eaton fire with californians entering a second night of raging wildfires are declaiming five lives destroying well over a thousand homes and businesses in some of the wealthiest areas in los angeles. and as you see alive on the screen a brand-new fires burning in the hollywood hills. matt is there live with the latest on it. matt? >> it's hard to believe we are covering another fire in the l.a. metro several rows away from the palisades where we were earlier tonight there's some good news here in the hollywood hills. from our vantage point we are looking north down into runyon canyon. the fire is largely under control l.a. fire tell me on the

scene and you on air that they have a handle on the fire looks like a lava flow right now lots of embers unfortunately the wind is pretty strong out here right now as you and i know it's been a huge factor in the use fires over the past two days. of the embers have been blown around here which is not too reassuring so if you are in the area of the mandatory evacuations do abide by them because anything can happen and once again this fire happening in a densely populated area at the foot of these hills is the hollywood entertainment district the west hollywood area. the auditorium where the oscars are isn't far from here it's a populated area of los angeles. anything can happen if one of these embers were to blow into one of the more popular areas but l.a. fire say they have a

handle on this we've seen aircraft above us going back and forth to the lake hollywood reservoir a small body of water beneath the hollywood sign and they are going back and forth bickering of water and dumping it on this area. we will keep you updated on the runyon canyon fire here. now to the national correspondent jeff paul live in the pacific palisades. what are you looking at jeff? >> i don't believe the feeling is the same as hollywood. i don't believe the firefighters feel they have any sort of control of the fire in the big reason why is seems like this. here's an apartment complex era big one starting as a small fire like most do and it's literally been exploding you hear those pop send a little while ago we heard a loud explosion. you could smell either natural

gas or propane and that's what firefighters are up against into the night not just smoke invisibility being bad but they had fires which are so unpredictable you could be on one block for 30 minutes and no fire is burning. you come back like we did and that there is a huge apartment which is on fire. we did a little bit of driving around. the fire has calmed down a bit as fires typically do in the evening. nothing like last night but as you can tell the wind gusts are very strong out here still and firefighters have their work cut out for them. this is what we've seen all night firefighters and police officers out here trying to scour the area and get ahead of the fire. we will see what it looks like in the morning. >> thank you jeff. the eaton fire which broke out during our coverage last night covering more than 10,000 acres taking at least five lives.

christina coleman is in altadena with the latest. christina? >> we will be reporting live from a deadly fire all night long we drove around the neighbourhood and saw house after house so many of them just gone. absolutely devastating you see the debris and the steps people were walking up just days ago now it's covered in debris. five people lost their lives in the fire burning over 10,000 acres, 750 firefighting personnel are just working to get the fire under control. it's at 0% containment and there's a lot of firefighters driving in the neighbourhood looking for hot spots and small fires to make sure they don't spark into larger ones. it's not as windy as it was last night but there is still wind and it's erratic.

it's causing these embers to just fly in the neighbourhood but that's what firefighters are concerned about they are working around the clock here the fire is 0% containment to and just moving this master down the smell of the smoke is strong. it is going to be a lot of time for people to clean up this area and the grieving the emotional impact that it will have on so many people here finishing off the holiday break returning from christmas break many kids going back to school for a single day and they are back home their schools evacuated or closed down as crews work to get the fires that are out of control in l.a. county. the eaton fire one of them 0% contained 10,600 acres and five

people losing their lives from the fire. thank you christina. we bring in sean doran and fabian herrera. thank you for both coming on. captain when you see these fires go from 1200 acres yesterday to around 11, 15, 18,000 acres what you think? >> it matches expectations with the historic wind event and red flag is that. when we compound the dry fuels we have that we've talked about for years with incredible wind categorized as historic wind we see them make massive runs and the devastating losses we are seeing our hearts are with the communities affected we are proud to be up there with the

partners. >> speaker-01: fabian over to you and when you look at the fires you see how almost impossible it is to see the window there. what are you thinking what are your thoughts on what happened in los angeles county over the last couple of days. >> my thoughts are with the people of los angeles and the people of the palisades. right now we are just focusing on saving the lives that is our priority and as mentioned it's a difficult fire because of the historic wind event. mainly wind driven and a lot of feel has been growing over the last year with the excess rain and there were areas where it's a difficult terrain to fight them. there is been challenges with the wind and smoke blowing creating visibility issues so it

has had to be minimized because of those challenges. that said we are continuing to prioritize helping those stock in these scenarios where they can't get out. people in evacuation zones, some of those people with limited mobility. >> speaker-01: and we've seen senior centres that have done great work getting people out and into safer areas. when you see people that are reticent to leave their homes is that where the injuries come in and the deaths or is it just not getting the notice in time what you think of that? >> in regards to that and the

palisades we haven't had fatalities. we are unaware of the number of civilian injuries but we do know that numbers will probably be high. now as far as them not wanting to leave. i can't really speculate on whether it's at them making choice on their own or not getting appropriate warnings but the appropriate warnings were sent out. everybody gets those on their phones and some people choose to stay in. in some cases where there are injuries that are people really did wait beyond those orders. captain back to you and when you're fighting this fire. what are you advising crews to

do. do they have to back away or is it a change in strategy. >> i can't speak to specific challenges. every fires do -- so dynamic in nature with decision-makers in that moment and they take advantage of the resources and apparatus on scene to adapt and overcome. >> speaker-01: is there a change in strategy as the wind picks up and slows down. is there a mile-per-hour things that you look for these think maybe it's time to get the assets up there again or is it something where it's over 60 miles per hour there isn't much you can do to fight these things? >> situational awareness is paramount not just for firefighters but also for those in the decision-making process for the strategies. they work with air operation

sections and the national weather service to get the reports to make those critical decisions. as you can imagine our best combination is air assets supported by boots on the ground engines with the hard work you see going on in the ground. they work in tandem. >> trace: i when you go into rescue people as you and your teams do. do you worry about the wind and the embers. is it a race against time to get these people out before the buildings just go up? >> me personally i'm not going out there to rescue folks but the crews going out there it's definitely a race against time and they do have to assess their safety compared to extricating people who are choosing to stay there and sometimes they don't

want to leave even if somebody is coming out there to rescue them. >> trace: and captain as we go forward in the days and weeks ahead do you think this will make policy changes. will things change because of what we have endured over the past couple of days? >> i like to think no matter the situation challenges and success get reviewed and we find opportunities to improve our processes and learn from one another. i can't speak to specific fires in los angeles although i know the fire service in general rights itself on learning from what we've done and where we can improve. these fires as was mentioned earlier in your segment are challenging with the wind alone. you throw in the terrain and the historic a dry fuels we've had that get covered up by green get

grasses that come and go seasonally. it is a recipe for fires to have a quick a leg up. so preparedness and assistance for communities to be really prepared and evacuate. execute a plan instead of develop it last minute that's what we stress that understanding the community and fire service and first responders were a team in this fire safety effort. >> trace: thank you for the analysis on that. fabian herrera thank you for the work as well our next guests have felt the impact's first hand. these residents of all experienced bad things because of the fires and jessica we talked about it losing to homes in the palisades and you do wonder going forward what is the worry. is the worry rebuilding in getting insurance. is it saying may be you decide

to leave go someplace else. >> i have to be brutally honest in the last 48 hours i have not worried about what's going to come. i've been focused on saving people's lives making sure people get out of their homes. making sure we save pets and take care of children and staying positive and sending out messages of hope and opportunity to our community. building community that is what i'm thinking about right now. i can't worry about the future i have cloves on me and food in my belly and people supporting me. i'm able to ask for help and everybody in our community needs to be brave and ask for help. i had people helped deliver my daughter underwear and socks at my hotel. we need to band together and get help. >> trace: and when you moved your children and talked to them what do you explain to them. what you tell them around what's

happening. >> my children are in boarding school they were here so they didn't experience this. they called me to check on me. it's a different dynamic say needed to make sure loved ones are aware that we are aware of the situation that we do need to evacuate. it's unpredictable. >> trace: and you think it was the right decision? >> absolutely. >> any other case with anthony who you have to talk to those children when they wonder dad what do we do what's the plan. do you have a plan did you layout things saying i need a plan to tell these kids was going to happen? >> you need a plan even if you don't know what that will be but i tell you what the plan should be you take inspiration from the strength of individuals and it don't rely on anybody like

karen bass it's people like jessica who will rebuild the community. i tell my kids things like that independently we will be strong we are a family we will grow from this just like the pandemic and we will be much better. when you look up at the hill and you see the fire where you know your kids school is and you get back down. to get that done. >> and as long as the kids are healthy the kids are safe building back all the rest of that stuff as we talk to people years after their homes are burned and sometimes it's terrific that led to a new life in the end. and politics makes their way into those types of things did gavin newsom on day one take swipes at donald trump off the get-go taking a couple swipes that gavin newsom and return.

and there was a new truth social post and one of the must be of a parts of the united states it's ashes and gavin newsom scum should resign that was all his fault. what you think. >> as much as i'd like to make it nonpartisan. safety isn't a partisan issue. it was an issue for all sides. what i will say is that i agree. and karen bass should resign gavin newsom should resign as well as every single member on the board of supervisors who have taken away our emergency services from l.a. county. while they are added they should completely eliminate the entire -- system that's been broken into politicized and absolutely wrong. we the people of california and

it residents all the united states need to stand up and hold these people accountable for the crimes they have done. it's regular citizens like us who watched the entire city get decimated. why? for political nonsense should there be accountability and consequences for things that went wrong in this response? >> for sure. it's been going on for every year and are we are intelligent enough to predict what's to come and it should be prepared and we haven't done that. >> anthony main consequences things need to change because the response here by all accounts... >> absolutely and the ideal that this can be on the coast next to one of the biggest oceans in the world with water and that they don't have enough.

that's enough to say they should be held accountable to something. >> trace: we were down in malibu and i saw the oceanfront homes ones that you watch driving up the pch and wonder what's it like to live there as you're already on the water in juicy water coming beneath the house and you would think they would never ever be worried about burning down because they have water coming under their house and yet dozens of those homes burned to the sand and we witness it. and you're like wow that something never seen before. jessica, anthony thank you all. the question is how did the fire hydrants run dry in california at the worst possible time. was it a problem with the water pressure or problem with not having enough water. more after this.

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♪ ♪ >> trace: breaking news on the right side to your screen. you see studio city, california, what we saw in the commercial break was a house explode if you will. this is part of the fire that matt was covering in the hollywood hills but studio city is 5 miles from there so it's possible or likely that the lineup fires fires we were showing you extended down and in the embers that picked up and moved during these events caught fire so now we aren't saying it's two separate fires but it does look like the fire we've been calling the hollywood hills fire expects band and to studio city where you see more action down there and a house exploded in another burned. there were telling matt earlier they believed they had the fire contained in that might still be

the case but at the very least some wild embers got loose and you can see how they are fighting a new area in the fire as we told you all day. it's a very fluid active situation and the embers move very fast and are very hot and very dry. let's bring an legal fellow steve great to have you on the show we talk to you about it before but why does california not have water to fight the fires. >> well, it starts with a hundred billion gallons they spill into the pacific ocean every year because of the delta smelt water that could go to not just california farmers but downstate to various cities and that would increase the water supply. they need more reservoirs. ten years ago california there was a referendum and voters

voted for more reservoirs. despite taxes to collect money nothing's been built. you get down to a place like the palisades they aren't ready for a big fire like this. they have three separate 1,000,000 tanks of water and then there's nothing. california passed a decade ago a measure tech capture water they are paying for in a didn't materialize. >> because environmentalists right they don't like a development and more water means more development, more people and more farming they don't want any of that so they will block it. >> trace: it's being paid for though. you talked about legality like the bullet train but were paying for this thing we are paying billions in getting nothing in return.

>> since 2012 even paid a carbon tax for the cap and trade system and the wildfires have burned up and omitted more co2 then was saved by the cap and trade system. paying billions of billions for nothing. >> trace: what's more important to clear the brush or get more water. >> both you need to do everything. it's a once-in-a-lifetime event with huge wind that came through and it just happened to be dry and there was a spark rate. you need the water to put out the fire but also i don't know how much it would help in this specific fire but most california wildfires which occur on public lands because of overgrowth. a failure to manage that growth as well. in santa monica it's a little more difficult but it can be

done. it's not just one thing it's everything. >> trace: a compendium of things and that's the case. thank you for your expertise steve. thank you sir. and studio city on the right hand of your screen there and has burned well over 18,000 acres now and of course you have the eaton fire in the pasadena area and with thousands, more than a thousand homes in the palisades. that could be as many said the most devastating fire in the history of los angeles. thank you for watching breaking news coverage on this expanded addition of america's late news i'm trace gallagher in los angeles over to bill now.