scary when you can see the flames coming up over the houses two blocks away and you're just getting out of the driveway and the smoke and the ash is so thick you can't even see. >> it's a lot. but you know, nature wins. and i just saw a lot of friends homes go down. i'm luckily my place saved. >> we had people message us asking if their house is still standing. we had to tell them that it's not. >> so here. there are thousands of people all across los angeles county forced to leave everything they have behind. with fierce santa ana winds fueling the flames of several wildfires. and just when it looks like things couldn't get grimmer, officials are warning the worst is potentially still yet to come. we thank you for sticking with us at this late hour for this special coverage. i'm bill melugin. it is 1 a.m. in new york, 10 p.m. here in los angeles. and at least seven wildfires are burning as we speak right now here in los angeles county. five people confirmed dead. so far, though,

the l.a. county sheriff expects that number to go up and more than 1000 structures have been destroyed, most of which are out in the pacific palisades. that is where we're going to begin our coverage tonight with fox news national correspondent jeff paul. he's been live on the ground there all day long. jeff, we've been seeing some pretty harrowing images coming out of the palisades. it looks like a large portion or a majority of that city has essentially just been wiped off the map. >> bill, on our drive in, we took sunset boulevard from the brentwood area, and i can't describe it. it was just, as people have said, apocalyptic, just entire neighborhoods in the pacific palisades just leveled not one house standing, a couple trees, maybe a sign or two. and this is the scene we're seeing over and over again. we're seeing structures on fire. the firefighters are out here. they're trying to tame those flames. they're throwing water on it. but these strong wind gusts just keep picking up. and it's just like one step forward, two steps back for a lot of these officials out here trying to

get some sort of containment lines drawn up. at the moment, 0% contained. i think we're around 16,000 acres burned so far in here. and, you know, we've had people reach out to us as they're watching our coverage. bill, i know you're used to this as well with wildlife wildfire coverage, people asking, hey, can you check on my home? and that's the most heartbreaking part about all of this, is that each one of these houses, each one of these homes, that someone's entire life, that's all their dreams are in there. all their memories are in there. and every single one of these homes is burned to the ground, is going to tell a story. it's really tough to see when one house burns, let alone an entire neighborhood. you know, thousands of homes just burned to the ground. really tough. and for firefighters out here, i mean, they're having a hard time in the night. you've got really tough conditions out here. a lot of smoke, a lot of embers flying around. and then you've got those wind gusts that are just still picking up. they just really can't catch a break out here, here tonight. bill. >> yeah. the good news, if any out there is at least there

have been no deaths recorded in the palisades so far. unfortunately, that's not the case. we're we're about to head out to next. jeff. paul, we thank you for that live report in the palisades. we'll check in with you again shortly. but as i was just mentioning, the eaton fire out in the altadena area, the hills above altadena, that is where fox correspondent christina coleman is joining us live from tonight, where at least five people have lost their lives as a result of this fire. we just heard leslie marshall tell us earlier those people were actually in her neighborhood. christina, what are you seeing out there? looks like a similar scene to what we saw with jeff. yet another home still burning behind you. >> hi, bill. yeah. that's right. just absolutely devastating. there are so many homes out here that have just been leveled, like this one that you see behind me. it is one of the more than a thousand structures that have either been damaged or destroyed. and when you walk out, when i walk up here, you can see, like i'm seeing some hotspots up here. you got a smaller fire that is burning. this is what crews this is what they're worried

about. there are so many firefighters driving up and down these streets, checking for hotspots, checking for flare ups to try and ensure that a larger fire doesn't spark in this area, this eaton fire. it is at 0% containment. it sparked. it started yesterday around 630 in the evening, and it has been going strong ever since. the evacuation orders, the warnings. it is impacted more than 70,000 people. and as we've we've mentioned, five people have lost their lives in this devastating and deadly fire. and crews are continuing to search for people out here. i just heard this really large boom just seconds before i came on air. i imagine that is probably from another one of these buildings that have collapsed. again, just these crews out here, they have a lot of work ahead of them. even though it's not as windy as it was last night, it is still windy out here and there are plenty of embers in the air just floating every which way,

and that is what they are concerned about. so crews working around the clock trying to get this fire under control. it is at 0% containment. it is scorched more than 10,600 acres, more than 750 firefighter personnel are working to get this fire under control. and again, it has claimed the lives of five people. bill. >> and even as the santa ana winds slowed down, unfortunately, as we've seen over and over again with these fires, they're able to create their own weather, they're able to create their own wind. and that's part of the reason why we're seeing 0% containment is once these things start rocking, it's difficult to stop them. with all the heat and the wind they're able to generate. christina coleman live in altadena. thank you. well, these new wind driven wildfires are sparking almost constantly all across southern california. as it stands right now, we've got at least seven major blazes that are burning completely out of control. almost all of them. 0% containment. they include the hollywood hills fire, the eaton fire, the canyon fire, the palisades fire, the woodley fire, and the hurst fire that's out in sylmar. former l.a.

county sheriff alex villanueva is joining us tonight to shed a little bit of light on how first responders are tackling this crisis. sheriff, i know you got a whole lot you want to say about how you feel. some folks have dropped the ball with these fires, but just give us your initial thoughts over what we've seen over the last 36 hours. have you ever witnessed a series of fires break out like this in such a quick amount of time? >> no, you have to go back all the way to into the early 90s when you had the malibu and the altadena fires. in those days when we had those first fire storms and then go to the woolsey fire in 2018, i think is the closest thing. but this just the sheer size of it. and like you said, all these different fires are breaking out everywhere. the scope of it is really taxing on our first responders, our firefighters, both at the county, the city level, and all the mutual aid people that are chipping in. they cannot keep up with all the spot fires, and the wind is pushing embers everywhere, and there's so much fuel and that

that availability of the fuel and the wind that keeps driving, this is going to make for another long, long night for our our first responders here in la. >> so somewhere these city leaders, these politicians and local, you know, sheriff and fire officials are in an eoc, an emergency operation center. and they're watching all these live tv feeds showing chunks of the southland being incinerated. you've been in that eoc before. you were the sheriff. you've seen chaos play out under your watch with those riots back in 2020. take us inside that eoc. what's it like to watch coverage like that when you're the decision maker and who's in there really calling the shots? >> well, ideally it's your director of emergency management. is calling the shots. for example, the sheriff's department, the department operations center. your your sheriff should be there in command of the resources at his disposal. he's a mutual aid coordinator for both la and orange county. and with that, he has to interact with the california office of

emergency services. and he coordinates the resources that are going to be devoted to all the different fires that spread out in the entire region. and it is an ongoing process where you have so many different screens and a huge spread of different officials, and they're monitoring all the requests that are coming from all the mutual aid cities. and that gets funneled through the department of operations center to california oes and then sending resources, for example, the late arriving national guard, who should have been called yesterday. but they weren't for some reason. and then your preparation prior to this incident starting, did you pre-position all of your resources to be available to tackle this? once the fires were lit and preventative measures? are we out there in the wilderness areas looking at homeless encampments, potential sources of in, you know, igniting additional fires, for example, there's a lot of preventative measures that should have gone on. don't know how many did. and then are we

positioned to continue fighting this. and then now you have the fatigue factor setting in. you have firefighters working over 24 hours nonstop. you have now law enforcement working, approaching 24 hours nonstop. and the relief is not there to continue backfilling these people as you take them off the line. >> and i'm sure you've seen it. la city mayor karen bass getting a lot of criticism. she was in ghana when this fire broke out. she was there attending a foreign inauguration. she's the mayor of los angeles. and look, this this windstorm, these extreme wind, fire threats, they were forecasted days ago. and she didn't come back until this fire broke out. and she was traveling back as virtually all of the palisades was being wiped off the face of the earth. what do you think about the fact that the mayor of los angeles was not here in la, as the palisades was burning? >> well, she was not a leader. she was playing her old role as a congressional leader. you go

around doing these junkets around the globe. but when she needed to be were counted, was back at home overseeing the preparation for this event. and it was days in advance of the national weather service said, this is going to be a historic level of fire of basically fire like conditions with a high winds and over such a large swath of the region. and the fact that she wasn't here when she should have been. i mean, even if you're in the air and you realize this, hey, you know what? you tap and go at your local airport, you turn right around, you go right back. don't don't think twice about it. and that was a duly noted. >> yeah. and the mayor said during a press conference today, she got back to los angeles as fast as she could. and that involved using a military flight, which she said helped her maintain communication with her officials out here. but she's she's been taking a lot of heat and criticism for the fact that she wasn't here. former l.a. county sheriff alex villanueva, we thank you for coming on

tonight. hope you're well. >> you got it, bill. >> well, the biden-harris administration says it is taking action to support state and local response efforts here in l.a. county. president biden approving a major disaster declaration for the state of california on wednesday. but president elect donald trump says these fires could have been prevented in the first place. fox news senior national correspondent kevin corke joins us now. kevin, good evening to you. >> evening to you, bill. president trump and biden weighing in on the devastating fires in los angeles in very different ways. not surprisingly, mr. biden, who actually just so happened to be in the southland on wednesday for unrelated reasons, including the birth of his first great grandchild, said all the right things about receiving briefings on the ongoing effort to contain the blazes, calling the situation astounding and as if to underscore the seriousness of it all. late wednesday, mr. biden canceled the final overseas trip of his presidency just hours before he was set to depart for rome and the vatican, choosing instead to

remain in washington to monitor situations in california. meantime, president elect trump, who was on capitol hill wednesday to huddle with senate republicans about his upcoming agenda, wasted little time in blaming biden and california governor gavin newsom for the problems in the golden state, which he frankly has been warning about for years after previous fires in the state on the campaign trail in 2024, and again on truth social writing, quote, one of the best and most beautiful parts of the united states of america is burning down to the ground. it's ashes. and gavin newsom should resign. this is all his fault. he also said this. >> so what's happened is a tragedy, and the governor has not done a good job. with that being said, i got along well with him when he was governor. we worked together very well and we would work together. i guess it looks like we're going to be the one having to rebuild

it. >> meantime, congressional lawmakers fortunately got to work. in fact, they just reloaded fema's disaster fund. and that means a cash infusion. of course, that happened just before christmas. and you may recall, you had the double hurricanes that really bled fema's coffers dry in the fall. so it's believed that the new money means that fema will have the resources that it will need to address all the problems in california. too little, too late, say some, but every little bit helps. bill. >> yep. they're going to need every single penny of that fema money. kevin. thank you. live in dc for us tonight. well the crisis is already creating a big time political backlash. l.a. mayor karen bass, facing scorching criticism today for cutting the city's fire department budget by more than $17 million. she's also being scrutinized for being thousands of miles away in ghana when the flames broke out, something we just talked to the former l.a county sheriff about our next guest, california state representative bill sali, is calling on california governor gavin newsom to convene a special session to address this

disaster. he's kind enough to join us by phone now. bill, thank you for joining us. i saw you post on x earlier today that you feel newsom is too busy trying to trump proof california. you think instead he should be trying to fireproof it. explain your thoughts. >> yeah, absolutely. i mean, he has gone on this vendetta against president trump. he's called us into a special session up here in sacramento. he wants to put millions of dollars into fighting trump in court. and then you have the state literally on fire. now when we should have been spending our resources, our money, our time, our efforts to fireproof the state. so i'm calling on him to hold a special session so we can fireproof the state, not trump proof the state. that's the real threat here. and i'm calling on him to step up as governor of the state. there's no one to blame. the democrats have the governorship. they have the mayor's office, and they have a supermajority in the legislature. they are responsible. >> so how do you fireproof the

state? what does that entail? >> yeah. so actually i laid it out today, some of the basic things i talked to firefighters in my district. one of the biggest things they say is their ability to do controlled burns is severely limited in the state of california by environmental laws. they have to comply with sequa, which means they have to go out and do environmental impact reports before they can engage in any controlled burns. they say it's practically impossible to do it. we've republicans have proposed legislation to exempt these fire control burns from sequa. we've also introduced legislation to exempt the undergrounding of power lines from sequa. all those efforts have been stopped or vetoed here in california. and the reason that's important is we have to reduce the fuel loads in these wild areas, in the in the good seasons and the off seasons. so that way when stuff like this happens, you get these conditions. the fires aren't as big and aren't as devastating. and undergrounding the power lines is important as

well. a lot of these fires end up being started by downed power lines or coming into contact with trees or whatnot, so underlining or undergrounding them is a is a really important tool as well. >> did governor newsom call in the national guard too late? >> you know, they did everything too late. you look at a state like florida when they have hurricanes coming in, they deploy resources strategically throughout the state. they have evacuation orders. they're prepared for this. i don't see any level of preparation for this. i mean, where are the big firefighting aircrafts? where was the equipment? they know when an event has the ability to be this serious. and for the mayor to have waited till after the fire started to come back is unacceptable and inexcusable. and the governor showing up just with his hands in his pocket doesn't really help. i mean, they should have had these resources in place ready to go. and, you know, bill, i want to say this, this is really important to a budget is a reflection of your priorities. the governor has reduced the fire prevention

money in the budget by 80%. we went from spending $600 million in 2021. we now only spend 200 million. and our budget for state as big as california for fire prevention. meanwhile we're spending five $6 billion a year to fund illegal immigrant health care, 100 billion on a train nobody wants. a budget is a reflection of your priorities. they just don't care about wildfire prevention. >> and real quick 10s left, do you expect to get any kind of response from governor newsom or his team regarding your letter to him to fireproof california? >> you know what they respond to. they respond to the public pressure. so if the public makes their voice heard, they will respond. and ultimately, we answer to the people, state rep, we thank you so much for your time tonight. >> hope you're well. >> thank you bill. thank you. >> so we've all seen the images of these incredible water dropping helicopters out at these wildfires coming up after the break. we're going to talk to a friend of mine. he used to fly the l.a. county fire hawk helicopters, the ones that fly

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>> welcome back! the powerful hurricane force santa ana winds fueling these deadly wildfires are also creating incredibly dangerous challenges for the crews who are trying to put these blazes out. the strong winds have grounded. at one point, firefighting planes and helicopters at different times, which makes it obviously almost impossible for crews on the ground to try to get a handle on the flames. i want to bring in now retired l.a. county fire air operations crew chief and paramedic mike braun. he's joining us more to explain the challenges. mike, you were a pilot. you're retired for la county fire. you flew the

incredible fire hawk helicopters which fly at nighttime and they're able to drop water. you've worked a lot of catastrophic fires in your career, including the woolsey fire back in 2018. just give us your thoughts on what you've been seeing these last couple of days. >> yeah. bill, good evening to you. and just let me. i was a crew chief paramedic with the department. after 40 years in the fire service, i spent my last 24 years in los angeles county fire air operations as a crew chief, paramedic. and our pilots, along with the paramedics that fly in these aircraft, have really been challenged these last couple of days. with the fires going on, the firehawk aircraft is sikorsky. firehawk is a great aircraft and it's proven to be a workhorse in the in the mission of what we do. and seeing what happened last night was actually a first in in my 24 years when i worked there never happened when they grounded the aircraft due to

the winds. i know the leaders that made that decision and it was a it was a sound decision because those guys don't want to sit around and wait for anything. when we see this kind of devastation going on, people losing their homes, people losing their lives, it's devastating. we want to go out there and do our jobs, but thankfully they're out there right now as we speak, dropping water on these fires, trying to get a handle on them. and god willing, mother nature slows down these winds and they can get a get a handle on this. >> so in your career spanning several decades, last night was the first time that you're aware of that. officials decided to ground firefighting aircraft just because of the wind. >> yeah, bill, you can remember back when you and i were working the woolsey fire. i remember seeing winds in that particular fire at night gusting up to 74 miles an hour. and with the event that's going on right now at the 89, 90, up to 100 mile an hour wind recordings unprecedented in the

los angeles area. and historians are going to look back. i don't know when we've ever seen this type of an event and talk about how difficult it is for these pilots to work these fires when it's this windy. >> we've been watching some of the clips where the helicopters get over the flames. they get pretty low, they dump their water, and some of it either just kind of disintegrates before it hits the ground, or they got to try to aim, you know, 50 yards ahead of it and hope the wind blows it into the fire. just talk about the difficulty of making these drops when it's windy out there. you made these drops for 20 years. >> yeah. bill it's very difficult. and there's a it's a hazardous job. i mean, there's a lot of hazards just starting out when you're talking about flying at night on night vision goggles, you're looking at flying these aircraft in the wire environment. you're flying with other aircraft and other agencies. so there has to be a lot of coordination going on to avoid any catastrophic event when we get too close to each other, and then the

coordination with the ground crews over who's the priority and getting their drops and who's requesting them, we also have to prioritize, like i said earlier, that, you know, human lives and property are the main goals. and additionally, these helicopters that that are up there flying along with the fixed wing aircraft, they're doing great work. but you also got to remember these these aircraft are maintenance intensive. so we have a maintenance crew that's staffed 24 hours right now. that's that's taking care of these aircraft. so when one's out flying one's out being inspected, preparing the next crew to go out. >> and mike, we got 30s left here. you still talk to a lot of the crews who are out there working these fires. some of the pilots. what are you hearing from them? what are they saying about this wind event, this fire event, the last 36 hours real quick? >> yeah, i've been talking to them. i talked to him as early as a few hours ago today. and the conditions bill are something that i never saw in my 20 or 24 years of flying. and they're doing it and

they're doing it safely. so we'll just continue to pray for those crews to get this fire extinguished and put out. >> absolutely. they're doing life saving work and so did you for many years. we appreciate your service, mike braun, and thank you so much for coming on tonight. >> thanks, bill. have a good night. >> you as well. thank you. coming up after the break, we're going to head on over to the pacific palisades once again. that fire well over 16,000 acres, over 1000 structures destroyed, still 0% containment as it continues spreading its tentacles north into malibu and east into the hilly terrain. we'll take you there right after the break. >> touches of black. they say a lot without having to say much. they stand for elegance, refinement and prestige. even a little can go a long way, and though they're darker than the darkest night, they make you see everything in a new light.

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in the pacific palisades, where he's been all day long. jeff, what part of the palisades are you in in particular? and is the neighborhood you're in essentially just totally wiped out? >> yeah, bill, we're here along sunset boulevard, probably about a mile away from pch. so we're we're rather deep into sunset boulevard, close to the pacific ocean. and yeah, it seems like pretty much every other house is leveled. and in some areas, just entire neighborhoods burned to the ground other than maybe, you know, a few chimneys that are still standing. but one thing that we are starting to see are firefighters out here putting some water down on. some of these buildings that have been have been burning up pretty good. this particular unit out here has been every couple of minutes just watching to see what flames kick back up, and then they just throw more water on it. and i think the idea on this one, obviously the structure is likely a total loss. but they don't want this fire to affect other buildings

that are not on fire. you know, we've got these strong gusts of wind out out there right now. at the moment they've died down just a little bit. but they'll pick back up. they pick those embers up and it goes off. it goes onto another house and sets that on fire. so but it does seem like the sense of urgency right now. some of these firefighters are starting to kind of catch their breath. i still think it's a really tough situation for them, but they are. we're seeing them cruising around looking for things that are about to get, you know, set on fire or looking for buildings like this that were just completely out of control, trying to prevent other fires from sparking up. bill. >> and a bit of good news for the residents out there. we've been hearing about these widespread internet outages. people can't find any information out. elon musk actually just tweeted a short time ago that spacex is going to be providing free starlink terminals to people affected in these l.a. wildfire areas starting tomorrow morning, so that will obviously be a big help for folks out there. jeff. paul, thank you for that live report in the palisades. we'll

keep checking in with you throughout the evening. in the meantime, families are running to safety, pretty much grabbing whatever they can as they escape these deadly wildfires. so far, more than 1000 homes have been destroyed just in the fire. jeff is at over in the palisades as these fires are at 0% containment. fox news correspondent marianne rafferty is joining us live now with more on the emotional impact these fires are having. and, marianne, a lot of people are going to need a lot of help in these coming weeks. yeah, they absolutely are. >> and it's hard to find anyone that doesn't know someone who hasn't been affected by all of this. heartbreaking stories of loss also hope for thousands who are forced to flee fast moving wildfires, not knowing if they would still have a home left. standing at least seven out of control. fires continue to threaten thousands of homes and businesses. so far, five deaths have been reported in the eaton fire as it continued to spread. as the fires jumped from house to house, many people were trying to save their pets and their loved ones, many of whom had lived in their homes for many decades. also, some touching scenes unfolding of neighbor helping neighbor.

>> we've just been evacuated from this good samaritans car. you got it, dad. we're having to walk. this is crazy. there's a fire right? right outside our car. we got it. no, not that way. dad! dad! okay, dad. yeah, okay, i got you. he's very wobbly. okay, grab this pole. grab this pole. thank you, thank you. i'm going to get your walker. dad, hold on to that. okay? come on, turn around. you got it. keep walking down the hill. >> and many celebrities with homes in the path of the palisades fire could only watch helplessly as their homes were destroyed by flames. that includes actor james woods, who was posting images on x from his patio as his neighbor's homes burned around him. woods evacuated but had hoped that his home would be spared. >> it's astonishing that what happened during this experience was that we found out that none of us is a celebrity, none of

us is a poor person or a rich person, a democrat or a republican. we were just neighbors just really helping each other. >> and hundreds can only wait. still not knowing for sure if their homes are still standing as the fires continue to burn. >> and i can only imagine the agony of waiting and wondering if your if your home made it through it. you see the fire, you don't know if it's still there. i got a couple texts today from my friends that theirs did not make it. i know you've been talking to folks who are experiencing the same as well, so. >> and they're just devastated. where are they going to live? you know, and they've got children and, you know, lives. >> and like i said, a lot of people are going to need a lot of help. so hopefully the community will be ready to step up. marianne rafferty, thank you. more than 100,000 residents are still under evacuation orders as the la area wildfires are threatening nearly 28,000 different structures. we want to bring in now another guest. he's our friend who appears on fox very often, brian claypool. he evacuated from these fires. i believe you're near the one in pasadena. altadena area, the eaton fire. we're glad you made it out of there, brian. give

us. take us back to the first hours. when you first realized something was wrong and how that led up to your evacuation. >> yeah. hey, bill. >> great to be with you. >> yeah. glad we made it out, but. yeah. so, you know, last night, the fire was, you know, in the pasadena area. i live up above the rose bowl football stadium. so i live up on a hill overlooking the rose bowl. and, you know, i was driving home, i coached a high school basketball game. bill and i actually drove down the street toward the rose bowl, and i saw a fire, you know, really bad fire, like behind in the hills, behind the rose bowl. so i got this really eerie feeling, went toward my neighbor's house. we watched the news, you know, till about 130 in the morning, and it looked like that eaton fire was moving, you know, a little bit toward the east. right. and i live a little bit west. so i went to bed thinking, we're fine. right. and then about 5 a.m, i mean, it was just the most harrowing

experience, you know, police cars, fire trucks, knocking on doors like, you know, get out, get out of your house now, i mean it. i got to tell you, bill, i mean, it's surreal. i mean, it's a it's just a harrowing experience. i haven't i have a nine month old little girl. i'm a single parent. had her through surrogacy. so imagine i'm pounding on the nanny's door at 5 a.m. i'm like, we got to go get the baby, get the bag. i've got a sweatshirt and sweatpants and my contact lenses and glasses. my teenage daughter grabbed a couple of pictures, and then you're out of the house. and then, bill, there's no blueprint on what you're supposed to do, right? you get in the car. yeah. we're like, people don't realize, like, where? where am i supposed to drive to? right. where where are we going? and, you know, we met our neighbors and ended up at a hotel. i'm at a hotel, and

i don't know how our house is. so that you're dealing with that uncertainty. you're on edge. you know, i'm super emotional watching your show. and every house that goes down is years of dreams and memories for every human being. so this is this is just a catastrophic event with urban carnage and human trauma. bill. that's the best i could describe this. i mean, it's tough. >> and, brian, as we're talking to you, we're showing a live image out at the palisades fire appears. this is more on the northern side of it, kind of near the top. that's near temescal, probably near temescal canyon, there, near the 101 and the 118, i believe. i believe that is the palisades fire. but, brian, you talk about the uncertainty of not knowing if your home made it. you don't you're not able to go back in there and check on it. law enforcement is not going to let you in. so what's that like for you? you're in a hotel

right now wondering if you have a home to go back to. >> yeah, bill. it's you. it's indescribable. it's unimaginable. it feels almost a bit, you know, uncivilized. right? it just you don't expect your your life to go this way. right. and it's unexpected. it's random. that's the best i could describe to you. this is just a random event. you feel, you know. good description. bill. i was thinking about it. like you almost feel like you're getting sucker punched, right? like you're like, you're going in for a street fight, but it's not a fair fight, right? that's why i feel like these fires have been right. it's like you go in and then you're getting hit from the right or the left. somebody's hitting you from behind, right? this is this just. just has not been like, a fair fight with all of us and the firefighters trying to fight this. it feels, you know, it feels like a like a david versus goliath. and, you know, in the real world, should we be running out of our

home and with nothing i don't have anything. and then knowing and not knowing whether you're going to go back to anything and, and the feeling of displacement. right. like, yeah, like anxiousness, like, you know, irritability, like i, you know, i'm not looking for sympathy, but but it's just it's just it's not something that, that we're really trained, you know, to handle real well, bill and i and, and i'm super glad you guys are really covering the human aspect of this because every, you know, even you guys reporting this, you guys are affected by this. and looking at these images, it's it just feels like, you know, much like an apocalypse and but yeah, you know, we'll do the best we can. look, the bottom line is my little girl is fine. i'm fine. my other daughter's fine. we're good. we're going to survive. and you know, and we've had a lot of people reaching out, trying to get us somewhere to stay. and, you know, that's the

silver lining in, you know, in all of this is i'm finding that, you know, la county man, it's we gotta we gotta we've got a county filled with, you know, people that care bill and that's you know, that's something that that that's something you want to grasp on to as you're going through this. you know, it helps. it helps you get through it. >> and brian, you hit the nail on the head. the bottom line, you're okay. your daughter is okay. i know you're going to have a ball of stress in you for these next couple of nights. wondering if your home made it, but you're okay. your daughter is okay. property homes can be replaced, but we certainly hope for the best for you and your home as the authorities continue to try to fight that fire in eaton canyon, which is still at 0% containment tonight, brian claypool will be thinking of you. wish you and your daughter the best tonight. >> yes. thank you bill. thanks. >> so with these fires tearing through these heavy residential areas, law enforcement have already found five bodies out at the eaton fire. there are people who are going to need to be rescued. coming up after the

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scent of your choice. plus two free items plus free shipping. >> welcome back. as you are well aware, several wildfires catastrophic ones continue to burn here in los angeles county amidst the strong santa ana winds. you're taking a live look out at the palisades fire right now, the largest of which more than 16,000 acres so far, over a thousand structures destroyed, still at 0% containment. as that fire largely moves north into the malibu and topanga area. the good news, if any, tonight those firefighter aircraft are back on the scene. they weren't there last night because of the winds, but we have seen those lafd firefighting aircraft making water drops at multiple fires tonight, including the palisades fire that you're looking at right now, as well as the hollywood hills fire, which which broke out earlier this evening. and with these fires igniting and spreading so fast, a lot of people out there

are finding themselves stuck really with nowhere to go. the flames are already being blamed for at least five deaths. that's over in the eaton fire in the hills above altadena. for more on the task of trying to rescue folks in these burned out areas, we're joined by search and rescue expert armin. armin, thank you so much for your time. so we heard those reports that five people have passed away so far, all in one fire. that's in the eaton fire in the altadena area, the l.a. county sheriff said. unfortunately, he thinks that number is probably going to tick up as his deputies get in there and get into these burned areas and start going through the homes. do you expect that number is likely to go up as well, given the widespread devastation out there? >> hi, bill. >> well, based on what we've seen in past experiences, hurricanes, floods and these kinds of natural disasters, it's going to be natural to find somebody who wasn't able to get out of their home, someone who was asleep and the fire just caught up on their house, and they weren't able to get out. >> it's a task. to say that it was herculean would be an understatement. for folks to

try to actually get out of these these places, for example. i mean, are the roads passable? is the airspace even flyable? shoot. is the air even breathable to go and rescue these people? there are so many moving parts that are that are going into this calculus that first responders need. are there even firefighters available? are they too busy fighting the fire? can they even get to the locations where they need to go? perhaps rescue somebody who was who was unaccounted for or missing? it's a big challenge. >> i mean, so where do you start? because like you said, these areas are still full of hazards. yeah. maybe all the active flame is out and it's a burned out area, but you're probably looking at power lines down. you're looking at ruptured gas lines. they got a job to do. they got to go in there and see if there's anybody who is maybe hunkering down during the fire or if, tragically, there's people who have passed away. where do you start in terms of the safety for those first responders going into areas like this, when they're the first ones in after the fire has moved out? >> well, time is your biggest resource and you have a limited number of firefighters. so you want to make sure if you're

going to send first responders into an area to do any kind of rescue, that there might be actually somebody there that needs rescuing, and you're not sending them into an area where they're just searching and they spend several hours and they haven't found anybody. so lately, as we've seen in the last few years, you've seen a lot of these local authorities using drones with infrared cameras to go into these areas, especially at night, to find, you know, either one hotspots where there might be a fire growing or you might find people who are perhaps waving, or you see somebody in an area where there shouldn't be someone. and then now you can focus your resources where someone is actually there who needs to actually be saved. so that's a big part of it. also, overhead, if you can get a helicopter flying over an area or fixed wing aircraft flying over an area, if the air is not too turbulent, they can also search from from the sky as well for white flags or or perhaps sheets hanging from a window for somebody to actually get get rescued. so being able to basically build that intelligence, it's so much like a military battlefield out

there. get that intelligence and send in the troops to go and rescue those individuals. >> yep. you make a good point with those drones. i think those would be fantastic to use out there. i don't know if la county fire or lafd has them, but using those infrared images would be safe for everybody, as well as make it easier to find any, any potential survivors of these fires. armin kardian, thank you so much for your time tonight. we'll check in with you again shortly. and as you take a look at the right side of your screen right now, we continue to watch these active wildfires breaking out here in southern california. hard to tell if this one is the palisades fire, or if it's the fire that broke out in hollywood hills earlier this evening. based off the city lights. behind it may be the hollywood hills fire, but regardless, these are the conditions that we see tonight. we will be right back. stay with us for extended coverage of these la wildfires. our coverage is going to continue at the top of the hour. we'll have more live images, more live reporters for you. we'll be right back. >> it ain't my dad's razor, dad. >> hey. watch it. it's from gillette labs. this green bar releases trapped hairs from my

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know those areas very well. i have many friends living in those houses. that is a true tragedy. >> i spoke with president biden today and governor newsom earlier today, and they assured me a full federal and state support, this firestone firestorm is the big one in magnitude. hurricane force winds are usually accompanied by rainstorms, but these are hurricane force winds that are combined with extremely dry drought conditions. >> well, firefighters still racing against time, battling the latest la fire that has erupted in the hollywood hills. there's another one burning near the studio city area. it's the seventh fire burning out of control in the southland tonight. thank you for sticking with us at this late hour. i'm bill melugin. it is 2 a.m. in new york. it's 11 p.m. right here in los angeles, where these deadly fires, fires which have been fueled by these hurricane strength winds, have already burned more than a thousand homes and structures.

right now, you are taking a live look out at the palisades fire, the biggest fire happening in l.a. county tonight. that fire, over 16,000 acres already. just to put that number in perspective for our viewers, that's an area bigger than the size of manhattan island in new york city. 0% containment out at that fire. the good news, if any. there are no reported fatalities at that fire so far, but fire officials are still sweeping through the area, and they still have a lot of active flames to deal with. the santa ana winds, the worst of them, may be receding, but the flames so far are not. you still see them marching up the mountain? unfortunately, five people have lost their lives. that is in a fire in the in the altadena area. that is the eaton fire. that one has burned over 10,000 acres, several hundred structures destroyed in that fire as well. again, all these fires, 0% containment tonight, as we have seen, one of the biggest outbreaks of wildfires in california history. i want

to begin our coverage tonight with fox news national correspondent jeff paul. he is live on the ground at the at the pacific palisades fire, which we were just showing you from the helicopter. jeff, you've covered a lot of fires. as a reporter, i assume this one's got to rank up there towards the top of being, you know, the worst. worst ever. >> absolutely. it's the worst. hands down. i was in paradise for the paradise fire up there, where we lost a lot of folks in northern california. that was absolutely awful in terms of destruction. never seen anything like this. when we came in through brentwood off of sunset boulevard. i mean, entire neighborhoods just just leveled. really. nothing standing except for a few brick structures. and you bring up the fact that there is zero containment. well, this is a big part of the reason why we had firefighters out here for the last hour. you saw in our last couple live shots putting water on this thing. this is an apartment complex. and they left just a few minutes ago and it just fired right back up. and that is the real big

concern out here for fire crews. it's essentially, you know, you take one step forward, two steps back. these big gusts pick back up and then you have more fires. and they just continue to spread. we spoke with the firefighter a little earlier today. and i said how are you feeling tonight. he said it feels a little bit calmer but there's a lot of uncertainty. we don't know where things are going. you know, it's wrapping around the canyon. we don't know which direction it's going. i said, well, how do you feel right now? he goes whatever way the wind is blowing, you know, and we're going to go there and we're going to show up and we're going to do our best. but it's tough right now, and i think it's going to be really tough moving forward, especially as these high winds continue to just whip through the area. bill. >> yeah, unfortunately those firefighters are essentially having to play a game of whack a mole on a huge scale. they put out one fire, another one starts elsewhere. you make a good point with that one we're looking at behind your shoulder right now. some people may say, well, that home already burned down. it's a little fire. what's the big deal? it is a big deal. a little fire like

that can spew embers. one little gust of wind carries it. it can spot ahead of itself several hundred yards. you've seen that happen personally. just talk about how these little spot fires like that can lead to a much bigger issue. >> yeah. you mean someone might drive by this and say, well, this this apartment complex is a total loss. you know, you can see the inside of it. it's been on fire. why are you throwing water on it? well, it's not for this structure. it's for the structures around it. it's for the homes a mile away. you know, these winds out here remind me of some of the outer bands, of some of the hurricanes i've covered. they come through and they just whip you right in the face. but you add in hot embers to that, and there's no telling where those embers go. so yeah, it does make a big difference. and it's a good sign that we are seeing these fire trucks out here, moving around and putting some water in some of these buildings, because what they did behind us for the last hour, that can mean the difference between, you know, ten more homes being set on fire. and for those folks at home that matters to them because that's their home. >> yeah. great point. and i absolutely agree with you.

those winds last night were the strongest i've ever felt outside of when i've covered hurricanes in the past. truly remarkable wind event, the results of which we are seeing going into the late night hours now, as these fires still are 0% containment. jeff paul, you're doing a fantastic job out there. we'll check in with you again shortly. thank you. another area getting hit particularly hard. the hills above the altadena area that is the eaton fire. that fire broke out in the middle of fox news coverage last night. when we were talking about the fire, jeff was just at the palisades fire. for more on the eaton fire, we want to send it out to christina coleman. that is where she is joining us live from tonight. and christina, just like we saw with jeff, we still see smoldering buildings behind you. and the problem, those smoldering embers can travel pretty far and cause new issues. >> that's right. with the wind whipping these embers around, there's no telling where they will land. and you know, this this fire is absolutely devastating. five people have lost their lives from this fire. it is also scorched more

than 10,600 acres since this fire broke out in altadena yesterday evening, just devastating this area. i'm going to go ahead and move out of the way. you can see when you talk about some of these small fires just driving up and down the streets. we have seen dozens and dozens of them, this building unrecognizable. you know, i've asked a couple of people like, what was this? what was this building? quite a few people, reporters even, they didn't know i looked this up. i think this is some kind of theosophical library. you can see shelves that are are, you know, fallen. they've fallen on top of each other. they're completely charred, completely burned. and just right beside this building where you have multiple fires still burning, you see these downed power lines. this is also a concern. you know, so many people going without power because of these wildfires that have popped up all throughout l.a. county. but again, just a very devastating situation. just moments ago, actually, there was a car, a vehicle parked out here. now, mind you,

i haven't seen anybody come out here check on their homes. i'm sure a lot of people, you know, it's more than 70,000 actually have evacuated or received some kind of warning that they need to get out of this area. and so i haven't seen people coming to check, but there is a car parked out here just left behind like so many. and within seconds i saw the fire, a fire ripped through that car. it just emerged it was a flare up. and again, that just speaks to how quickly a fire can spark from some of these embers that are just floating around. again, nobody was out there. and then, you know, just moments ago there were fire trucks racing through here to put out that fire. and that is a big task, and that is what they're having to deal with tonight. driving all throughout this area, trying to check for those hotspots, trying to check for those those small fires to make sure there's not a flare up again, more than 10,600 acres have been scorched from this fire. there is at least 750 firefighter personnel working to get this fire

contained. it is at zero containment right now. like you know many other fires right now throughout l.a. county. and so these firefighters are working around the clock to try and get this fire, this deadly fire under control bill. >> small little embers just flying around behind your right shoulder right now. exactly what you're talking about. as these flames continue to spread tonight. christina coleman live in the hills above altadena for us where the eaton fire has caused catastrophic damage and, tragically, the loss of five lives. christina. thank you. sleep well. firefighters are waging an uphill battle against several fast moving wildfires all across southern california, particularly here in the l.a. county area. they're being fueled by dry conditions and ferocious santa ana winds, even though they've subsided to levels that weren't as bad as last night. still, 0% containment as we've been talking about. want to go ahead and bring in san diego county

supervisor jim desmond to talk about how these strong winds are creating massive challenges for these fire crews. supervisor desmond, thank you so much for coming on tonight. i guess my first question to you, has san diego county sent any resources up here to la, or have you guys been asked to? >> oh, absolutely. >> we've we've i know we've got several fire departments, you know, sending aid and, and firefighters up to, you know, to help fight, fight this fire. you know and you know our condolences go to the, you know, the families who've lost loved ones, the people who've lost their homes. this has really been devastating. and with the conditions that we have with these wild winds just blowing the embers all over the place, it's really, you know, impossible. so, you know, we really want to thank all of our firefighters and, and we in san diego, luckily right now we don't have any of these fires going on. but we had big fires in 2003, 2007, 2013. we have massive fires and we learned a

lot from those fires and have since done proactive measures to try to make sure that, you know, you can't you can't do a lot when the winds are blowing like they are. but we try to get resources where they're needed. we've cleared evacuation routes, you know, the standards about ten feet on either side of evacuation route. we've cleared it up to 20ft on each side. so we've done a lot of proactive things to hopefully, you know, put keep anything like this at bay in san diego county. but with these types of winds, it's, you know, all games, you know, the game is over. unfortunately, until the winds die down, you know, there have been reports that hundreds of folks living in the pacific palisades had their fire insurance policies apparently suddenly canceled in the weeks and months before this fire. >> in your opinion, does the state of california have to step up and fill some sort of a gap here to help these folks who may have lost everything and now have zero insurance as, as padding to fall back on?

>> well, it's primarily due to the policies of the state of california for the insurance problem that we have here, the you know, the wildfires are a factor, but you know, la county, la city of la had actually cut their fire budget by about $20 million from the previous years. some of the fire hydrants went dry. the water wasn't there and available like it should have been. and like you mentioned, the fire insurance. our elected fire commissioner for the entire state has, you know, i think, in his mind, done the right thing by curbing what what costs can be, you know, for paying for fire insurance. but really, what that's caused is fire and insurance companies to leave the state and say, no, we're not going to insure anymore because the costs are too high, you know, to rebuild. and we're being, you know, capped in what we can charge by the insurance commissioner. and it's really set up a situation

where if the insurance companies can't make a little bit of money, they're leaving. and unfortunately, some of these people in the palisades fire and even the altadena may not have had any insurance or had just gotten it canceled. and that's really more of a policy issue here in the state of california. that's, i think, self-inflicted. >> and you mentioned it earlier, san diego county obviously has had its share of massive wildfires in the past. just kind of give us your outside perspective. i'm sure you've been watching all the coverage up here in la. just your thoughts on what you've seen happening out here the last couple of days. it it seems unprecedented. we had the woolsey fire in 2018. this may end up being worse. your thoughts? >> well, this is you know, it's almost, you know, the perfect storm, i guess, with the with the winds, the way they are. and we've had this before. and usually those winds just blow right through the valleys and in the canyons. and they carry in those embers. i mean, on the coverage i saw last night, you could just see all the embers just flying down the roads and

just just flying all over the place. and really, you all we can really do is wait until those fires die down. we have had a very, very dry season here. normally it starts raining in southern california in the november, october, november time frame. we've had very little rainfall at all here and so all bets are off. and i really you know, this is devastating. you know, we hope it doesn't happen anywhere else. and in san diego county, like i said, we we've done a lot of proactive things and gotten our firefighters coordinated efforts to try to prevent these things. but, you know, when these santa ana winds start blowing at the speeds they are, it's, you know, all bets are off. and then fortunately, this is what we're dealing with here in southern california. but hopefully from each fire that we do have that we learn some lessons and we make things better. we make incremental steps to try to protect people, to make sure those evacuation routes are clear, to make sure

we don't have people that just have to abandon their cars and then clog up the roads. there's got to be a better system and a better way to move people quicker. >> yep. and you hit the nail on the head with the weather recently. been very dry last winter, incredibly wet. the problem is all that happened was all that shrubbery grew and grew and grew. it's been dry these last several months now, and that shrubbery is now just turned to deep fuels, which we're watching get incinerated. these last couple of nights. san diego county supervisor jim desmond, thank you for sending san diego resources up here to help us out in la. you know, we would return the favor for you guys. and we have in the past when you guys have had your issues down there. so we thank you for your time tonight. >> thanks, bill. >> thank you. well, the biden-harris administration says it's taking action to support state and local response efforts here in los angeles county. president biden approving a major disaster declaration for california on wednesday. but president elect donald trump says these fires could have been prevented in the first place. and he's pointing the finger at california governor gavin

newsom for more on that. we're going to send it out to fox news senior national correspondent kevin corke, kind enough to join us live in dc tonight. how's it going, kevin? >> bill, great job tonight. i know it's been a tough night for all of the southland. and obviously here in washington, we're watching it very carefully. presidents trump and biden, no question weighing in on the devastation over in california. but they're doing so in very different ways. mr. biden, for example, who just happened to be in the southland for unrelated reasons today, including the birth of his very first great grandchild, said all the right things about, you know, getting briefed on the ongoing effort to contain the blazes. he called the situation interestingly, he called it astounding. and i think that's a propos. and as if to underscore the very serious nature of the situation, late wednesday, mr. biden actually canceled the final overseas trip of his presidency just hours before he was set to depart for rome and the vatican, choosing instead to stay here in the nation's

capital to keep an eye on things in california. meantime, president elect trump, who was actually on capitol hill not just to pay his respects, but also to huddle with senate republicans about his upcoming agenda, wasted little time today not just blaming the president, but also blaming california's governor, gavin newsom, for the problems ongoing in the golden state this night, which, by the way, he has been warning about for years. you probably remember he did so after big previous fires. he said as much on the campaign trail in 2024. and he talked about it on truth socia. in a post early this morning. it said, quote, one of the best and most beautiful parts of the united states of america is burning down to the ground, its ashes. and gavin newsom should resign. this is all his fault. mr. trump also said this earlier in the day. >> so what's happened is a tragedy, and the governor has not done a good job. with that being said, i got along well

with him when he was governor. we worked together very well and we would work together. i guess it looks like we're going to be the one having to rebuild it. >> meantime, congress just reloaded fema's disaster relief fund with a cash infusion just before christmas. that, of course, happening after the double hurricanes, including the devastating one over in north carolina that really drained the coffers of fema. but now, with the new money, it's believed here in washington that they'll have enough money to address the ongoing fire situation in california. you mentioned very briefly that the president is doing what he can to get money in the hands of california as quickly as possible. it hasn't quite made its way all there yet, but it will in the hours ahead. >> bill, and seeing reports that this palisades fire may end up being one of the most expensive disasters in california and american history. we're talking tens of billions of dollars likely. kevin corke live in dc for us. thank you. well, as these fires continue to ravage southern

california, many are saying that the leaders just didn't do enough to prevent these fires from ever happening in the first place. for more on that, let's send it out to real clear politics, national political correspondent and san diego resident susan crabtree. susan, thank you so much for your time tonight. great to see you. just give us your thoughts on all this political drama going on. we're hearing a lot of republicans point the finger at democrats. governor gavin newsom, mayor karen bass saying they weren't prepared. they dropped the ball. it's their fault. this shouldn't have happened. is it just politics, or do they have a point? >> well, i've been screaming for years from the mountaintops about this fire devastation. california has been operating like a third world country and failing to protect its citizens while promoting green, clean air priorities like mandating that citizens buy all evs by 2035. but those emissions gains are obliterated by these fires and make no sense when you do nothing to prevent these

apocalyptic, apocalyptic fires. now, i grew up in california. this was not a problem while i was growing up there in the 70s and the 80s. i've investigated this issue for years, and my upcoming book about california's failures, fall, called fool's gold, has a chapter devoted to the wildfires and the state's failure to prepare for these wildfires. the political corruption between pg and e and other utilities responsible for the most destructive and deadly wildfires across the state, and their relationship, their financial relationship with newsom and other democratic politicians. now, i don't know if you know about this, but newsom has taken 700,000 and his wife 700,000 from pg and e and helped to bail out that company when they were facing bankruptcy after they were found guilty for manslaughter for 84 deaths in the paradise fire. now everyone is in california, are sitting ducks because the democratic leadership has failed to

prevent and protect california citizens for years. and so, you know, when i see la mayor karen bass, who cut her fire budget by 17.6 million for this fiscal year, had nothing to say about why she was in ghana when this fire broke out. the national weather service has been warning about these fire prone conditions since the weekend, and she chose to go to inauguration of the ghana president. did did california taxpayers pay for this? i really want to know. and gavin newsom should have deployed the national guard over the weekend. they had c-130s, they said at the at the. >> susan. susan, i apologize. we're running up against a hard break here. i appreciate your insight. we got to run. but you're right. l.a. mayor karen bass and a whole lot of hot water for that decision to be in ghana when these fires broke out. we appreciate your time. thanks for coming on. coming up right after the break. a whole lot of smoke out there in the southland. we're going to talk about the medical impacts of breathing in all that smoke, as

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with code tv. i could have told you that. i could have told her that. >> welcome back. thick smoke and billowing ash created by these wildfires is causing serious hazardous air quality conditions for los angeles county residents. for more on that, we want to bring in board certified doctor who hamadeh. he's joining us now to talk about the dangers of breathing in all that toxic smoke. as you continue watching those live images, doctor. good to see you. thank you so much for coming in. before we get to the medical impact of this, i know you've got a lot to say. you. i've been watching your x feed all day long. you feel like the ball was dropped by a lot of people when it comes to these fires? who and how? >> bill, this is something we knew was going to happen. >> it's like earthquakes, you know, that you're going to have major wildfires in la happening

once every x number of years, especially when you have windstorms. we just had a major windstorm just a few weeks ago and we saw much of malibu burn. we have absolute proof of this. we knew what it's going to take to prevent this and attack it. and newsom knew karen bass knew the county of la knew. and guess what happened? they were focused on everything else except for this. newsom's doing press conferences on high speed rail spending, $200 billion on rail that may not open for another 50 to 100 years right. if he's lucky, bass is in ghana. newsom's calling a special session of the legislature to trump proof california via litigation. tens of millions of dollars spent on that. where was the special session for wildfires? where was any advanced planning? right. they had all the opportunity in the world to spend a fraction of the billions of dollars that karen bass has been spending on homelessness and on illegal immigrants, on being a sanctuary city. et cetera. on building up a big wildfire defense force. and they have not done that. instead, they focused on everything else. and

this is gross negligence. >> and angelenos pay some of the highest taxes in the country. we hear these reports that there aren't enough firemen to go around. there's issues with the fire hydrants, with the water, with the water pressure. the director of dwp makes $750,000 a year. doctor, where are our tax dollars going? >> 14.4% state income tax i pay, i pay tens of thousands a year. i won't even say how much in property tax every year, 10.5% sales tax in santa monica and that general region. where is that money going? it's all being blown on all these other pet projects that we just talked about. and i think this is the time for them to say we were going to fire every dea employee, we're going to fire every pr employee, we're going to fire every high speed rail employee, anyone who is providing health care to people who are not here legally. et cetera. et cetera. et cetera. and guess what? we will have enough money to fight thousands of these fires and in fact, prevent them from ever happening again. >> now we'll talk about the medical stuff. so a lot of smoke out there. multiple fires burning completely out of control. a lot of people walking around with masks. we just talk about the risks of

inhaling what's out there. i mean, we're talking about a lot of burned down structures mixed in with stuff in the air. what are the health risks? >> yeah, i'm glad you asked, bill. there are a lot of health risks to wildfire smoke in particular. it's different than just burning regular wood. why? because when a wildfire, you're burning everything. rubber, plastics, all sorts of weird organic compounds and stuff that you may have in household cleaners, etc. particulates in wildfire smoke are less than two and a half microns. that's enough for it not just to get dislodged like lodged inside your lungs, but to make it into your bloodstream. make it into your brain, heart, other blood vessels, and cause inflammation and actually lead to heart attack or stroke. and people who are diabetic who have preexisting cardiovascular disease and to lead to severe asthma or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease in people who have diabetes, you know, copd, asthma or other respiratory diseases. on top of that, you have carbon monoxide mixed into it at a high level. and you also have what's called vocs or volatile organic compounds. and what are those? those are

things that like paint thinner, for example. vocs, just like paint thinner, works on paint. they can degrade the linings of your lungs. they can cause damage to your heart. and you actually see much higher rates of heart attack and stroke, especially among vulnerable people in this. you know, during covid, i was like, i don't know about masks in this case, actually wearing a good mask, an n95 actually goes a very long way because that's what these masks are made for. >> 30s left. how much can people breathe in before it becomes a potentially an issue? do people have to worry about, oh, i got a whiff of smoke. i'm going to get sick. >> no, i think it's. it depends on the concentration of these particulates and other compounds in the smoke, as well as your degree of exposure. and so if you're temporarily exposed to a large amount, it's fine if you're exposed to prolonged amounts of small amount of smoke, it may not be too bad. but if you are someone at risk and you're exposed to a high amount for a prolonged period of time, that's when you're in trouble. and i think you'll know. because if you start experiencing symptoms, get out, stay inside, run a fan, and if you can't do that,

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terrain. a lot of rain last year, not a whole lot this year. all that growth now turning into dead dry fuels, which these flames are devouring as they move up the hills and into these residential communities. for more on these fires, we want to send it to the other side of l.a. county, up in the hills above altadena. that is where christina coleman is joining us live at the eaton fire. christina, i know you're seeing a lot of homes that have been burned down and are still burning right now, as far as you know, is there still active flame moving towards new areas of town, or are we looking at mostly just the aftermath of this fire now? >> well, i can tell you this fire is 0% contained. so i imagine there is, you know, still flames moving possibly into new areas, firefighters working around the clock to try and get this fire under control. even in this neighborhood, this close knit community, this close knit community, i mean, you could see these small fires that are still burning. i'm standing in front of what used to be, i

believe, a theosophical library. and you can see multiple areas in this building that are on fire right now. and that is what the firefighters are worried about. they're worried about the smaller fires. they're worried about these embers, these hot spots, because they could spark up within seconds and cause an even bigger fire. this fire, the eaton fire that broke out yesterday in altadena, just north of pasadena. it has claimed the lives of five people. just absolutely devastating. it has scorched through more than 10,000 acres since this fire broke out. the cause of it is under investigation. but one thing we know to be sure, and as we've been reporting on all night, i'm going to go ahead and move this down. the smoke here, it's just it's just extremely heavy. but one thing that we've been reporting on is, you know, these bone dry conditions mixed with those gusty winds that caused this fire to explode overnight, causing so much devastation. you can take a

look just to the side of me here. you can see some of these downed power lines. you know, just thousands of people, thousands of people throughout the l.a. county area without power, you know, trying to figure out. i was talking to one of my good friends who was telling me she was trying to evacuate yesterday from this area. and, you know, with the power out, they couldn't open their garage. they had to leave one of their cars behind. fortunately, she was able to go back and get it. but that just speaks to the little things that so many people are thinking about. just, you know, without power and what what all do you have access for or access to? there's been so many cars that i've seen just out along the streets, road or roa, just burnt out. one of them just moments ago, had actually, you know, erupted in flames. i imagine one of those embers had landed on it. but again, you know, the firefighters here working around the clock to try and get this fire contained more than 750 firefighter personnel are working out here. they're driving up and down these streets trying to do everything they can. i had a chance to speak to one of them

who was telling me. you could just tell he was emotional, because not only is he trying to, you know, to stop the fires out here, but this is a place where, you know, he grew up, his childhood friend, their parents owned a house that we watched together, burned down. we were hearing the buildings collapse and the walls collapsing there. and you could just tell he was heartbroken. you know, there are so many kids all over l.a. county who, who their their, their their classes are canceled. they just went back to school. they're just coming off the christmas break and, you know, excited to see their friends again. and now they are back at home, you know, because of these, these dangerous wildfires and road closures and businesses being closed and just all kinds of things. so it's just really just really devastating for this community. bill. >> yeah. christina. always kind of an unsettling feeling being in these burned out communities after a fire comes through. power's out. it's completely pitch black. of course, other than the orange flame from the burned out homes and

structures. christina, you're doing a great job out there. stay safe and be careful with that smoke out there. we just heard doctor hoffman talking about some of the health issues, so we'll check in with you again shortly. thank. well, families had to ditch their cars and their homes as crews tried to get the fires burning in la under control. those flames forcing more than 100,000 people from their homes. we remember these images right here, folks in altadena yesterday at a senior assisted living care facility, having to be evacuated and wheeled out ahead of the flames by law enforcement. thankfully, they got all those folks out. but for more on this to talk about what we've seen these last couple of days, we want to bring in lifelong california resident and republican strategist matt klink. matt, thanks for coming on tonight. let's rewind the clock to yesterday. the first alerts go out that a fire has broken out in the palisades. we all see that little smoke plume start off, and then it starts expanding quickly. and all of a sudden, sunset boulevard has bulldozers going down it, clearing away tesla cybertrucks

and porsches because people couldn't get out in time. just give us your thoughts on what we've seen these last couple of days. >> well, you know, bill, this is not a surprise. >> i mean, we have santa ana winds. they. ever since i've been a little kid, we've had santa ana winds. i think the what is the surprise is that the quickness and the speed with which these, these flames just engulfed communities. i mean, if you look at the alphabet streets in the palisades, it looks like a scene you would see of a plane flying over, you know, tokyo in world war two. it really is. i mean, it's horrid. and i think that right now people are still they're still, you know, they're still dealing with the fires, obviously. and a lot of people that i know have lost their homes, but they're asking a lot of really, really tough questions about, you know, how did this happen? how could the mayor, for example, cut $17 million from the fire department? how could the chief of la, the fire department,

write a letter to the mayor on december the 4th, say this cut will have a detrimental effect on our ability to respond to wildfires, and then we don't have water in some places or the pressure's not right. i mean, the problem with los angeles right now and a couple of your your viewers have said it or your i'm sorry, your guests have said it is that we pay a lot in taxes and the city always has money for the pet progressive project. the essentials are not getting done, and i think people are finally starting to get fed up in los angeles. >> how much political damage do you think la mayor karen bass did to herself by being in ghana when this broke out? i mean, this was forecasted several days in advance. she had to have known this was coming, this windstorm at least, or at least the risk of a fire outbreak. but she was in ghana when it broke out. i know, she said she raced back as soon as she could, but there are a lot of ticked off. angelenos are upset about the fact that she wasn't here as

the palisades burned. your thoughts on the fallout that comes with that? >> well, look, when she was in congress, completely understandable for her to go to go to ghana. she is the chief executive of the second largest city in the united states. her job is to be here. so i think that she's had a very long honeymoon. she won convincingly in 2022. she's on the ballot in 2026. la is an overwhelming democratic city, and we run a nonpartisan race for all city offices. but this one is going to sting. today was not her finest hour. she did not look like she was put together when she got off that airplane at lax. she couldn't answer some very, very fundamental questions. and i think that the damage and don't forget the west side of los angeles. those are her people. they were her supporters. well, now, i don't know if they're going to be her

supporters after what's happened. so it's going to hurt. it's not going to be a long term problem for her. just because theocrats rule the roost in california. but look, you saw what happened with prop 36 in 2024, where we as californians overwhelmingly reacted because the crime problem had gotten out of control because of progressive policies. this may prompt some change in the city of los angeles. >> yes, and only time will tell. first, we got to get these fires out and these people safe. matt klink, thank you so much for your time tonight. appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> well, still to come tonight, over a thousand structures destroyed in these fires here in southern california, a lot of which have been businesses, some small mom and pop ones, others chains. regardless, a lot of people hurting. tonight we're going to talk about how some of those businesses can get back on their feet coming up right after the break.

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business owners have lost everything they have, while others remain closed until the fires are contained in evacuation orders. lift. we want to bring in now michael montagna. he's the ceo of doghouse. he's got nearly two dozen store locations here in los angeles. michael, i understand your headquarters is in the pasadena area, and a lot of your folks had to evacuate. how how's everything going for you guys right now? >> hey, bill. thanks for having me on. >> even under these unfortunate circumstances. really appreciate the opportunity to talk to you. >> look, it's tough times in pasadena. it's tough times throughout los angeles, and we're not exempt from that. we definitely closed our corporate headquarters, which is based in pasadena. we have restaurants throughout the los angeles area, as you had mentioned. we also have three in the pasadena area. we had to close those here today. and we suffered some damage to a couple of our stores here in the area, mostly based on the wind rather than the fire, fortunately. but i'll tell you what, we're we're less focused about our restaurants and we're more focused about our people and particularly the community that we're currently in. you know, it is

heartbreaking to watch our family, friends, neighbors, customers, employees, franchisees throughout the city suffering. and i look at even our, our our first responders and our firefighters. we have 170 firefighters here in pasadena. they've obviously been supplemented by many folks throughout the state and, and, and other states, but they have been grinding over the last couple of days, little reprieve, little, little break. and we're, you know, we're watching our community band together. and that's where we really thought through this process is less about our stores. but what can we do to help our local community that's in need, and particularly our first responders and our firefighters, as they're going through this time where they're sacrificing for us? and, you know, as a local restaurant owner and with a reasonable footprint throughout the city, you know, our thought has been, how do we really lean in and do what we do best? and that's cook food for all these folks and, and, and care for them and

try to make them happy. and so that's what we're really focused on now is, is, you know, how do we band together as a, as a community and add value in the way that we know how to do it? >> and speaking of those first responders, i understand that you guys are planning once everything kind of settles down a little bit, you guys are going to deliver some food for them as as a way to say thank you. >> yeah. look, we're doing four different things. first, you know, our very first store. we've got 60 stores around the country. our first one is here in pasadena. we're opening that up tomorrow morning. we're inviting anyone affected, not just first responders, but anyone affected by these terrible fires throughout the community to come in and enjoy a meal on us free of charge. we're also at the pasadena convention center, where a lot of folks in the community are going for assistance from the city and will be serving people there as well with free meals. we're also down at the rose bowl, where we're helping our first responders at their headquarters by dropping off packages and delivering food for them to be able to enjoy

while they stay focused on what they're ultimately doing. and then our big thing throughout the city, across our 19 stores from burbank to long beach, and everything in between will be offering inviting all firefighters from across the county to come in and enjoy food on us indefinitely, free of charge. they have made incredible sacrifices over the last couple of days, which they do day in and day out, but nothing more. that highlights their sacrifice, life and limb than they have done over the last 48 hours. and it's the least we can do, is to be a good member of the community and care for them in the way that they're caring for us, and it's a very kind thing for you to do, and i'm sure a whole lot of people are going to take you up on that offer. >> glad your employees are okay, glad you're okay, and glad your businesses made it through this fire. michael montagano, thank you so much for your time tonight. check in with you again soon. stay with us. we'll be right back. >> hi. mike huckabee here. having spent many years in

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>> it's really scary when you can see the flames coming up over the houses two blocks away, and you're just getting out of the driveway, and the. >> the smoke and the ash is so thick you can't even see. >> it's a lot. but, you know, nature wins. and i just saw a lot of friends homes go down. luckily, my place saved. >> we had people message us asking if their house is still standing. we had to tell them that it's not. >> welcome back. thousands of people in los angeles county forced to leave everything behind as fierce winds fueled the flames when it looked like things couldn't get grimmer. officials warn there could be another wind event coming early next week. we thank you for staying with us at this late hour. i'm bill melugin. it is 3 a.m. in new york. it is midnight here in los angeles, where several wildfires continue burning completely out of control. unfortunately, five people are confirmed dead in a fire in altadena. that is the eaton fire and almost 2000

structures in total between these fires have been destroyed. we want to begin our coverage with fox news national correspondent jeff paul. he is live on the ground near the pacific palisades fire. and jeff, we just got an update from fire officials that fire now at more than 17,000 acres. what are you seeing out there? >> yeah, when you drive. yeah. and when you drive through here, bill, it's easy to see why. i mean, it's not just these neighborhoods here in the pacific palisades. it's all over close to malibu. we drove up pch earlier. you could see fires all over the hills there. and we're also seeing a lot of this going on right here. these are this is an apartment complex. it was knocked down pretty much. i mean, the flames were knocked down. firefighters were out here for about an hour trying to get those flames down. they took off about an hour ago. and this is what you see? the flames come right back up. those wind gusts pick up and they carry their embers to the next fire. and it just continues on and on and on. but one thing i will have to say, over the last 30 minutes or so,

those wind gusts have died down significantly. it's somewhat chilly out right now. and the other thing that we are seeing, which is which is really good news because we've been talking about this a lot, that there's no water out here. well, we have seen fire truck after fire truck pulling up to this right here, this hydrant right here, and refilling their trucks and then going back out and trying to knock down more fire. so this is this is a positive step. this is something you want to see. you want to see that urgency. you want to see the crews out here with, you know, a bit of a bit of something to do, you know, because before those flames and the fires, they were moving so quick, it was really hard for these firefighters to wrap their head around it. and then on top of that, there were the reports of there was enough water to go around to put out some of those fires. so to see that image, if you're someone at home, you don't know if your your home's doing okay. well that that should make you feel a slightly just a slight bit better to know that firefighters are out here doing the best they can with what

they have. >> bill and jeff, are you still seeing any of those choppers out there doing water drops, or does it seem like they've called it a night at this midnight hour? >> you know, earlier we did hear a helicopter above us, which was a bit odd. you don't normally hear, you know, helicopters doing drops that late at night. didn't see it actually do the drop, but that was a couple hours ago. haven't heard any aircraft above us at the moment. not saying it's not happening, just not where we are. but you know, you want to hear that sound. that's that's a good that's a good thing to hear. we did see a couple fire trucks come down a little earlier today, bill, and they were covered in that fosgate the pink stuff that, that, you know, puts out those fires for folks at home that don't know. that's always a good sign, too, to see trucks covered, meaning they're up there and drops are happening. so hopefully we'll see more of that in the coming days. >> yep. when you get a pink paint job, it means the tankers are up there doing their work and if you covered fires, there's a good chance you've gotten the pink paint all over

you before. jeff paul doing a great job out there. stay safe jeff. well, more than 100,000 people remain under evacuation orders tonight, with at least seven fires burning out of control, several of which are still at 0% containment. the question now is, is there any relief in sight for the people of los angeles? we want to bring in once again, former l.a. county sheriff alex villanueva. sheriff, great to see you again. thanks for coming on. once again. a lot of people are going to be wondering how the heck all these fires started back to back to back to back within a 36 hour span. there are some who are going to point to, you know, the power utilities, some are going to point to potentially arson on the arson front with the criminal investigative side. where do you start in terms of that kind of an investigation? how do you get the ball rolling on trying to figure out if something was intentionally set? >> well, one of the first areas to look is at the point of origin of the fires when they're very first reported. and from that point, then you can start focusing on all the

available resources that hopefully haven't burned down in it. but for example, going to ring door cameras, going to surveillance cameras, you know, using, you know, using different tools that the detectives can use to figure out cell phones have been pinged in the area or find commonalities between the different points of origin. and if there's a cell phone that was in common with all of them, you know, those are places that we can start looking and then the actual material that can be recovered and examine that for forensics and to see where it points. but when you have multiple fires in different areas and it doesn't look like it's wind driven, like embers floating from one point to another, then obviously there's going to be a human element involved. and i think they already attributed that to the palisade fire. >> and governor gavin newsom announced earlier today that he's calling in the california national guard to help out. i know you feel he made that decision way too late. how do you feel about it? >> well, it's not it actually

shouldn't have been his decision that should have been done by the sheriff of l.a. county, the mutual aid coordinator for region one. that should have happened day before yesterday, to be honest. and it's kind of a day late and a dollar short, because now you're getting your folks that have been on the ground for over a day nonstop. and that is just obviously we're asking too much for our first responders, and we need to have a better planning when it comes to staffing these type of events. >> and we heard fire officials say yesterday they just flat out don't have enough firemen to handle all of these fires breaking out across the southland. i know you have strong feelings about back during covid, a lot of first responders were essentially kind of forced out of their jobs. they got a manpower issue. now, is that coming back to bite them now? >> oh, it's definitely coming back to bite me in two fronts. on the covid. the vaccine mandates that, hey, they wanted me to fire 4000 of my employees. i said, oh hell no. and but city and county fire

pushed out a lot of their employees and a lot of law enforcement in the sheriff's department and city and county fire lapd. they just went to greener pastures and said, we're not going to deal with this. so now fast forward from 2020 to 2025. and yeah, those chickens have definitely come home to roost. and it shows that illogical and reckless disregard by the powers to be to decide to impose hiring freezes and vaccine mandates. >> there are reports today that two looters were arrested trying to go into these these burned out areas and take advantage of people's misfortune. if you were a sheriff right now, what what would your message be to those looters or anybody thinking sinister thoughts that they're going to go in and take advantage of somebody? >> well, we're going to be waiting for you, i can tell you that. and they're not going to get away with it. and unfortunately, there's too few looters being arrested right now. there should be a lot more because i understand the problem is a little more intense than they're describing there in your press conferences, former l.a. county

sheriff alex villanueva, thank you, as always for your time. >> great to see you. and we appreciate you coming on tonight. >> you got it, bill. >> yep. well, the biden-harris administration says it is taking action to support state and local response efforts here in l.a. county. we heard earlier today president biden, he was in santa monica approving a major disaster declaration for california. but president elect donald trump is pointing the finger specifically at governor newsom. he says he is to blame for all of this, that this shouldn't have happened. for more on that, fox news senior national correspondent kevin corke staying up late for us. joining us live in d.c. kevin, good to see you. >> good to be with you, my friend. by the way, for those who haven't had a chance to watch all night long, bill, you've done an amazing job, as has our team out in the field. kudos to all of you as we continue to keep an eye on the southland. you mentioned president biden. yes. help is on the way as the message from the white house, but that doesn't mean there hasn't been criticism. in fact, i think it's fair to say that both the president and the president

elect have been talking about the wildfires in very different ways. mr. biden, as you pointed out, just happened to be in the southland on wednesday for unrelated reasons, including the birth of his first great grandchild. but obviously he was asked about the wildfires. and yes, he said all the right things about getting briefed and doing what he can do to help the effort to contain the blazes. he called the situation astounding, and as if to underscore the seriousness of the situation, late wednesday, biden canceled the final overseas trip of his presidency just hours before he was set to depart for rome, italy and the vatican, choosing instead to remain here in the nation's capital to monitor the situation in the golden state. meantime, president elect trump, who was on capitol hill to pay his respects to the former president, late, now president jimmy carter, and he was also there to huddle with senate republicans about his upcoming agenda. well, he wasted little time when he went before the cameras and blaming

the president and california's governor, gavin newsom, for all the problems happening in that state, by the way, problems he's actually been warning about for several years on the campaign trail in 2024, for example, and again on social media this morning. let me show you what he posted on truth social. quote one of the best and most beautiful parts of the united states of america is burning down to the ground, its ashes and gavin newsom should resign. this is all his fault. mr. trump also said this earlier in the day. >> so what's happened is a tragedy, and the governor has not done a good job. with that being said, i got along well with him when he was governor. we worked together very well and we would work together. i guess it looks like we're going to be the one having to rebuild it. >> indeed, the partnership between washington and sacramento will have to be a strong one. meantime, congress just reloaded fema's disaster relief fund, a cash infusion

just before christmas. that, of course, on the heels of really being drained by those hurricanes late in the fall. now, the new money should obviously help in the battle to try to help rebuild california, but that will not stop people, including lawmakers here in washington, for asking a lot of questions about how, once again, we ended up in a situation where california needs billions of american taxpayer dollars to solve a problem that they apparently bill have not done a good job of addressing. back to you. >> yep. and those fema coffers are going to get bled again because even though it was just replenished, we're looking at damages in the tens of billions of dollars likely. pacific palisades very, very expensive area. kevin corke live in dc for us. kevin thank you. well, altadena is another area hit particularly hard by these wildfires, the eaton fire. we actually just got some brand new numbers on it that fire up to over 10,600 acres. we've got five firefighters who have been injured at that fire. and listen to this. just in the

eaton fire alone, 972 structures destroyed. that is on top of more than 1000 destroyed over in the pacific palisades. for more on that, we want to send it out live once again to christina coleman. she is in the hills above altadena, where these homes continue to smolder behind her. christina. almost a thousand structures destroyed just where you are in altadena. >> that's exactly right, bill. yeah, and i'm standing right in front of one of them. i believe this is some kind of theosophical library there. you could see the fires, multiple fires just inside this one building alone. they continue to flare up from the erratic winds in this area. you can see this building. when i was driving by, a lot of people didn't even know what it was. i mean, some of these buildings just completely unrecognizable. and then you just take a look to your right here. you can see the power lines, the downed power lines. this is obviously a major concern. thousands and thousands of people without power from the fires that are

burning in different areas across l.a. county. now, just with this fire alone, as you mentioned, since it started yesterday, it has burned more than 10,600 acres. it is at 0% containment, and crews continue to work around the clock to put this fire out. i mean, you can see just a little bit further, you know, if we just take a shot just a little bit further to your right, you can see another small fire burning there. and again, we did get that update from authorities. they say their resources are currently operating in difficult to access to rain and extreme wind speeds rapidly present rapidly changing operational conditions. so to sum that up, it's difficult. it's difficult to get to parts of the terrain, parts of the land where this fire continues to burn out of control. you have more than 800 firefighter personnel working to try and contain this fire, but again, it is at 0% containment. a major, major concern because

those gusty wind conditions, they are going to continue. and that is something that these firefighters have had to deal with. the bone dry vegetation from the lack of rain in this area. in addition to those gusty winds fueling these fires. this fire exploded overnight and again has claimed the lives of five people. extremely devastating bill. >> yeah, enormous structure loss out there. almost a thousand alone just at the eaton fire christina coleman, fantastic job out there. thank you. well, still to come after the break, we're going to check in with rabbi abraham cooper. many of you know him from our fox news airwaves. he is a lifelong l.a. resident. he lives near that palisades fire. we'll get his insight as to what he experienced when this chaos broke out yesterday. stay with us. >> you know, there's this thing called age, and it sucks if you're over 50. >> imagine you could turn back the clock on your stiff, achy

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something was very, very wrong? >> i was actually out yesterday with my wife to ride in santa monica at about 3:00. >> i think if we had tried to go an hour and a half later, we would have been caught up already. you saw the smoke and the and some of the flames, the traffic backing up, but no real understanding of what was about to be unleashed. i just received word, for example, that we're working remotely tomorrow to simon wiesenthal center, and we'll have a crew over at the museum of tolerance, but we're not sure whether the schools are in any position, private or public, to actually show up. so and then yesterday, i had an important appointment for 11:00 at my desk. the person never showed up. three hours later i got a text. she just put in two sentences. my house burned to the ground. and of course, i

think we now have we have close, i guess, to what, about 100,000 internal refugees in los angeles just, you know, in a bat of an eye. and right now, no one in sight. and as you know, bill, because you've been out in the front lines with if the winds keep kicking up that it's kind of russian roulette. no one really knows when this is going to stop. been through a couple of really tough earthquakes in la over the decades. this is really different because we simply don't know when it's going to stop. and it feels like when you go out, of course, it's difficult to breathe. but also, you know, a question about is it coming to your neighborhood next? and also is a rabbi. and i noticed a synagogue destroyed the chabad folks out in malibu had to evacuate the torah scrolls. i watched fox

yesterday afternoon when a church burned to the ground. yeah, this is a very, very tough time in real time as as you've been bringing it to, to us and to the nation. >> and you've lived in la for 50 years. you've seen a lot of wildfires, catastrophic ones. how does this one compare to what you've seen in the past? is this at the top of the list in terms of the quickest destruction? >> well, there's no no question. it really feels like utter devastation. and the fact that, you know, over the years you get used to. yes, it's a kind of a cycle. there'll be some years where there's a lot of rain and a lot of brush, and then there are fires. and in a couple of them just a few weeks ago. but the scope and the ferocity and the, the, the spread of where this could hit, we're used to, you know, seeing those 747 tankers hitting and,

and the fires being counterattacked right away. and for a variety of reasons, not least of which the hurricane level winds, none of that has taken place. zero control. we're not out in the middle of the boondocks. this is los angeles, california. the devastation on the human scale is quite dramatic, to put it mildly. and i think all of us are going to have to put out special efforts for not only for friends and neighbors, but for strangers and people here in la and in california are going to have to rediscover sense of community. stop weaponizing, you know, the politics. january 20th is rushing up on us. i think this is a tremendous body blow to our city. but also, if you will, a call to arms, because

whatever the government is eventually going to do and god bless the first responders and they've done everything individually right. but systemically, everything really has not gone correctly. but beyond that, to repair the city and the community, it's going to take a tremendous effort. and speaking also as a grandfather, my grandkids live in jerusalem, in denver, they're not here, but also parents, siblings, teachers. we're going to have to find a way to departmentalize our own feelings and make sure that we're there for our kids, to allow them to express their fears and concerns, and to try to rebuild from within a lot of the things that need to happen here on in bill will have nothing to do with government. they'll have everything to do with the resilience of the family unit and of and of the

community. >> yep. rabbi abraham cooper, some great points you made right there. glad you're okay. and thank you so much for coming on tonight. >> we'll talk again soon and keep up your great work, bill, i appreciate it. >> thank you. well, still to come tonight we continue to track these, particularly two wildfires that are burning out of control, the eaton fire and the pacific palisades fire, which are taking a live look at right now. we've got jeff paul out there. we're going to check in with him one last time. as our live coverage continues of these wind and fire events here in southern california, which have destroyed almost 2000 structures. stay with us. >> dry. i still feel pretty rough or tired with my bow eyes can feel my bow. my bow is the only prescription dry eye drop that forms a protective layer for the number one cause of dry eye. too much tear evaporation for relief. that's my bow. oh, yeah. remove contact lenses

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from fire officials 17,000 acres scorched, over 1000 structures destroyed there. we're talking some of the most expensive property in los angeles county. and again, unfortunately, it may not look very menacing right now. the winds may not be kicking up, but this fire still 0% contained and more winds are predicted to hit early next week. we want to send it out one more time to jeff paul. he is live at the palisades fire. jeff, you have been out there all day long. just give us your final thoughts on what you've seen today. >> yeah. and, bill, like you said, the wind right now might not be so strong. but the thing we have to underline is this fire has been nothing but predictable. unpredictable, i should say. it has been nothing but unpredictable. so at one moment it could be quiet, and the next moment we'll have these strong gusts of wind move through. and again, we're going to show this behind us. i mean, this is an apartment complex, and this is the story of the palisades fire. all the homes,

no matter if it's an apartment or a big house or a small house, these are people's homes. these are people's lives that are being destroyed. and firefighters are only starting to touch the tip of the iceberg. now, one of the things that we are seeing that is coming to us as a bit of a relief is, you know, half an hour ago we talked about these firefighters pulling up to this fire hydrant and refilling their truck. look what they're doing again, another fire truck out here refueling, putting more water into their truck from one of these hydrants out here that clearly have water in them. so that is a good sign. the other thing that we have also noticed is that it seems like fire trucks and first responders are really on the move, and we've got a fire truck that's that's coming up right now, and they've got their bright lights out and they're basically searching for any of these hot spots. and to me, this this is a good sign because they have time to drive around and look for these fires. right now, they're not in such a defensive mode right now. they're sort of on the offense. it appears, you know, they're really trying to take a

to take, you know, a good stab at this fire right now. we'll see what it looks like in the morning bill. but you know the temperatures out here have certainly dropped. it's a lot cooler out here. the visibility is a little bit better. i hope that's a good sign of things to come. >> and jeff you were talking about this earlier. you've been live out there all day long. i'm sure people have been watching your reports. you know, on a personal level, you're you're getting people reaching out to you, seeing if you can go check on their property to let them know if they have a house or not. and most of the time, unfortunately, we're not we're not able to do that. but just talk about how desperate some folks are just to get any kind of information. >> yeah, and my heart breaks for every single person who has reached out to me or tried to reach out to me, because as someone who lives just down the way in santa monica, who's also kind of concerned about this fire, i mean, for people who are in the thick of it, i cannot imagine what's going through their minds. and one gentleman reached out to me. he was actually building what was likely his dream home, his

dream family home. it was under construction. and he reached out to me and said, i just found out by watching your report that we would likely lost everything in this fire. and i know it's hard, but you take the time and you tell them, like, is your family okay? did you get all the pets out? yeah. and it's i know it's hard to hear, but that's the most important thing. all the rest of it is just stuff. and that's going to be really hard, a really hard reality for people over the next couple of days. but it's true. the most important thing is life that cannot be replaced. but, you know, it still is really tough when you lose everything. i can't imagine what's going on with their lives right now. bill. >> yeah, i know it's not much comfort for them in the moment, but you're spot on. property can be replaced. things can be replaced. lives cannot. that is the most important thing. jeff. you've done fantastic work out there today. thank you so much for the live coverage that you've delivered to us and to our viewers who have been desperate for information today. stay safe out there. thanks, bill. yep. well, as you know, thousands of evacuated,

evacuated families in los angeles county don't know if their homes are gone or not. something we were just talking about with jeff. many of them were forced to run from the deadly fire with with whatever they can carry. some of them had to ditch their cars behind. we saw that on sunset boulevard yesterday. a bulldozer had to come through and clear. those numbers show more than 1000 homes are complete losses. and to that point, we want to bring in fox news correspondent marianne rafferty. once again. she's joining us with more on the emotional impact of all of this. and, marianne, we continue to hear these stories by the hour. we just heard jeff talk about someone who unfortunately saw one of our live shots and figured out his home is gone. >> and you've got a lot of families out there right now wondering, are they going to have a home to go to? they've got children, they've got lives. they they've got to figure out what's going to happen next. and there are heartbreaking stories of loss. also, a lot of people that are still hopeful that their homes will still be standing. thousands were forced to flee when those fast moving wildfires first broke out, and they still don't know whether or not they're going to have

anything to return to. seven out of control wildfires are continuing to threaten thousands of homes and businesses. sadly, five have died in the eaton fire as it continued to spread. our colleague and friend, fox news contributor leslie marshall, describing getting her family out safely. >> my kids, like, grabbed to their computers and stuff and are my kids started crying and they and they started crying because they said, oh my god, are we going to lose our home? >> are we going to lose our rooms? are we going to lose all our memories and fires? >> jumped from house to house on tuesday night. many folks were trying to save their pets and get their loved ones to safety, many of whom had lived in their homes for many decades and didn't want to leave. harrowing scenes unfolding as neighbors helped each other make it out. >> we've just been evacuated from this good samaritans car. you got it, dad. we're having to walk. this is crazy. >> there's a fire right?

>> right outside our car. we got. not that way. dad! dad! okay, dad. >> yeah, okay, i got you. >> he's very wobbly. >> okay, grab this pole. >> grab this pole. thank you, thank you. i'm going to get your walker. dad, hold on to that. okay? >> come on, turn around. >> you got it. keep walking down the hill. >> and many celebrities with homes in the path of the palisades fire were forced to watch helplessly as the flames drew closer. that includes actor james woods, who was posting images on x from his patio as he watched his neighbor's homes burn burn around him. woods evacuated but hoped his home might be spared. >> it's astonishing that what happened during this experience was that we found out that none of us is a celebrity, none of us is a poor person or a rich person, a democrat or a republican. >> we were just neighbors just really helping each other. >> and thousands of evacuees,

like we said, still don't know what's left of their homes. many will not have a place to live and will face a long road to recovery. bill. >> yeah, it was just horrible yesterday watching those first homes go up, you got the sense that a lot more were going to be destroyed once those winds picked up and those embers and, you know, you're telling the stories here. unfortunately it's magnified by over a thousand people at this point. and just one fire and you could hear the emotion. >> you could hear the people screaming as they were trying to evacuate. >> that was wild. video marianne rafferty. thank you. well, hurricane force winds yesterday made the fight for these fires in l.a. very, very difficult. that's both in the air and on the ground. obviously planes and aircraft are essential, but with high winds and smoke, it's not an easy task. we want to bring in l.a. county, retired l.a. county fire air operations crew chief and paramedic mike de bruin to talk about those challenges with us. mike, you used to fly with those l.a. county fire hawk helicopters that would drop water at nighttime. you've got a long career out here in l.a. county. you fought a lot of fires. in

your opinion, is what we've seen these last two days. when all the dust settles, is it going to be worse than the woolsey fire? which was the worst, most destructive fire in socal history? >> yeah, bill, i'm going to have to say, from what i'm seeing, it is going to go down in the history books as the biggest and probably most expensive fire that not only los angeles county, the state of california, but maybe our nation has ever seen. and the crews have been working diligently. you know, we staff aircraft 24 hours a day. but when you have an event like this, these guys can't fly for 24 hours at a time. so we have to bring in extra crews to rotate and keep them fresh. maintainers have to maintain the aircraft. and, you know, we want to go out there and do our job. i know the guys are working the best of their ability and to see us one home is heartbreaking, like jeff said. but to lose thousands of homes, that's it's gut wrenching. and, you know,

they're just going to keep working at it. and i and i and i can't imagine i talked to the guys earlier today and they're still out flying as we speak right now, that having to ground the aircraft last night because of those winds was was difficult. but it was a it was a good professional decision made on the risk assessment. and but fortunately the guys are back up there doing doing their work right now and helping those resources on the ground is a team effort to put this thing to bed. >> and you and i were texting earlier. you're retired right now, but you've been watching all this coverage and you part of you feels like you want to get back in there and you want to help. what's what's what's it been like for you with all this experience? you have to just watch these homes go up by the hundreds yesterday and today. >> yeah. i just feel like even though i'm retired, bill, like i'm not doing my job, i feel like i need to be there, and i almost want to come down. and even if it's to help take care of the guys in a, in a in an

indirect way, i know it's always difficult when you're working this many hours to get the crews fed and taken care of. it's difficult and i just feel like i'm not doing my job. don't get me wrong, i enjoy retirement. i'm grateful for it. but right now, at this moment, i wish i was there helping the guys. but i do know the crews that are there. the guys that i worked with that are still there. they're the they're the best. and los angeles county is fortunate to have them from the air and all the guys on the ground as well. >> and those fire or those fire hawk helicopters, the ones that drop water at night, obviously crucial with these fire fights. so too are the super scoopers that l.a. county leases out. just talk about the aerial assets that the county has that they can throw at fires like this, and how important it is to have those assets during a wind event like this. i know they were grounded last night, but they were back up today. what kind of a difference can the combination of those choppers and the super scoopers make, particularly in areas that it's really tough to get

to with ground crews? >> well, all of them have their strengths and the super scoopers and the and the other contract aircraft that the county of los angeles and all the departments in southern california area contract with to support their their in-house units all work in a collaborative effort. and the mutual aid aspect of this as well. because of all the departments in southern california, los angeles county, los angeles city, ventura county, orange county, san diego fire, santa barbara all these departments work together. all of our agencies have a great relationship and on a mutual aid basis, or allow work together and safely work together to be able to combat these fires and these in these events. >> i think they're able to finally get a handle on this before those winds come in early next week. 30s. >> well, it's going to be difficult. we're going to pray for some winds. i just looked right now and the winds, as you stated, are subsiding. so we're

going to have to keep working extra hard to get this thing knocked down before that next event comes. >> mike braun, thank you for your service and thank you for your time. we appreciate you coming on tonight. thank you. >> talk to you soon. both. have a good night. you too. >> so with all these wildfires burning here in the southland, there is a whole lot of smoke in the air. a whole lot of bad smoke. considering how many structures have burned down. we're going to talk about the medical impacts and the potentially negative effects it can have on your health right after the break. stay with us. >> so what are you thinking? >> i'm thinking about our honeymoon. >> what about africa? safari? >> hot air balloon ride. swim with elephants. wait. >> can we afford a safari? >> great question. like everything takes a little planning. >> or put the money towards a down payment on a ranch in montana with horses. >> let's take a look at those scenarios. >> jp morgan wealth management has advisors in chase branches and tools like wealth plan to

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231231 today. >> so as these massive fires leave a path of destruction in their wake, obviously the dangerous smoke being emitted from them could end up harming millions of people living here in the southland. for more on that, we want to bring in board certified medical doctor and phd research scientist doctor hooman hamadeh. doctor, great to see you. thanks for coming in again. thank you. before we get to the medical stuff, just want to talk about the planning that went into this wind event. so the forecast was out there for days, right? they knew this was going to be an extreme wind event, possibly extreme fire risk. they say they were

prepared. they pre-positioned resources. dwp says they filled the water tanks up. so what went wrong here? is it just mother nature having its way or was was the planning just a fail? >> i think it was a little bit of both. but in the end, when you have a job like that and your job is public safety, you have to imagine the worst. you have to be prepared for a low probability, high impact event. and in this case, they knew that they can get a fire that is this bad. we saw it happen in maui with lahaina, where that whole city disappeared in a matter of minutes or hours at most. they know this is possible. the brush conditions, the wind conditions here are identical to what we've seen in other devastating fires. yet when they talk about pre-positioning assets, you can't just pre-position assets. you have to have the right assets and the right quantity of assets. 1 or 2 planes is inadequate. you need a dozen planes or more. you need a whole fleet of helicopters, and you need thousands of firefighters on the ground ready to go at a moment's notice. what happened in this

case? they had dozens of firefighters here or there, hundreds of firefighters here or there. things were in disarray. they couldn't even make it up the mountain because they didn't have an evacuation plan for all those people in the palisades who had only one way to escape. and that's when all the cars got, you know, bundled together, abandoned, and had to be bulldozed out of the way. that delayed the fire department response. and that should never have happened had they actually come up with a plan in advance. this is all very poor planning and it shows you where their priorities are. their priorities are in every other thing. but this, and i worry what is going to happen when we inevitably have that 7.6 or 8.3 earthquake, which we all know is going to come. >> you were saying earlier, you don't you don't think the a team was on this. >> this is not the a team. obviously. it's not the a team. it's not the b team. i think this is the f team. why? because they have failed in every possible way. the proof is in the pudding. we have thousands of homes gone, thousands of multimillion dollar homes no less. but it doesn't matter. people's lives are ruined. i have so many friends. i've started to count. i think it's i'm at 75 now. 75

families who have lost their homes. >> 75. >> yes, 75. >> yes. >> i know a lot of people in malibu. i know a lot of people in the palisades, a lot of people in that surrounding area. yes, i the number i want to cry when i think of the number of people i personally know whose lives have been indelibly ruined by this. children who are in a panic now, no idea what's happening with their lives. this is devastating. >> it is. let's talk about the medical impacts here. a whole lot of smoke out there, a lot of buildings burning down, a lot of material in those buildings that goes up with the smoke. people can breathe that in. talk about the health risks. >> yeah, bill, it's very interesting. there are three different components of wildfire smoke, which are very unique. one is that particulate matter, the soot in wildfire smoke, you tend to get particulates that are under two and a half microns. they're so small they get lodged in the lungs, make it into the bloodstream, into the blood, into the brain, into the heart, as well as the blood vessel walls cause inflammation. and people with coronary disease, with cardiovascular disease, it can actually cause heart attacks or stroke. in people with respiratory disease, the

volatile organic compounds and the carbon monoxide, all the substances that are burning the plastics and organic matter in that wildfire smoke can also start irritating the lungs and cause you to go into a horrible asthma attack, or basically stop breathing properly and have low oxygen rates. if you feel like you're unable to breathe well, if you feel like you're getting chest congestion, that's the time to get seen and to seen in an emergency room. don't wait and try to avoid exposure if you have any cardiovascular risk factors. >> i know you weren't a big fan of the covid masks, but with this situation here, you approve of a mask. >> this is what masks were made for, right? operating rooms and times when you're exposed to industrial particulates and when you have this sort of particulate matter all over the air, if you are at risk or if you're just irritated, put on an n95, it will help. >> you got about 30s left. just give us your final thoughts on what we've seen here in l.a. county. these these last two days. >> i think we've seen a dereliction of duty. i think we've seen criminal negligence on the part of karen bass, the

board of supervisors, and governor gavin newsom. there's a reason why people who even supported all of these people to begin with, are now the same people calling for them to resign, be removed from power. no one has any faith in their leadership ability. they have, over and over again demonstrated that they cannot lead throughout this crisis. it's all photo ops. it's all avoidance, and we don't need that now. we need real leaders to step up. rick caruso, who was not elected as mayor, has been more mayoral than karen bass, the person who defeated them when she was absentee in ghana. and that says it all. >> doctor hamadeh, thank you for coming in. thanks for your time. great. thank you bill. and that's going to wrap up our coverage this evening. as you were just taking a live look at the palisades fire, which continues to burn 0% containment. fox and friends first. coming up next. after the break, they're going to take over coverage from here. doctor hoffman is going to be joining them in just about five minutes or so. thanks for joining us tonight. >> sore throat. >> got your tongue? >> mucinex insidiosus sore throat medicated drops uniquely

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