slash. i don't even know what you'd call it. clothier. that i'm supposed to dry clean a suit like, once or twice a year. i've been over dry cleaning my suits and it's been taking the shine off, and it's been ruining the fabric. so just word to the wise. don't dry clean your suits so much unless you stain them a lot. brian from philly sounds like michelle is on assignment. ha ha. very good. ron from vermilion, ohio. bill and melania on opposite sides. was hillary in charge of the seating chart? rick from findlay, ohio. if i were kamala, i'd sit between jill and doug too. that's all for tonight. a fox news alert. i'm marianne rafferty, live in los angeles. at least seven

wildfires are still burning around l.a. county, with the devastation and human toll growing by the hour. one of the latest to erupt is the kenneth kenneth fire, which burned nearly a thousand acres in just a few hours. that fire is burning on the border of l.a. and ventura counties, north of los angeles. the flames are now blamed for the deaths of at least ten people. but as rescue crews searched through the rubble, that number is expected to grow. the fires have consumed so far more than 27,000 acres and destroyed over 10,000 buildings, most of them homes. in some areas. entire neighborhoods have been wiped out. the fierce santa ana winds have died down a bit, but are expected to pick up again on friday night. police have also arrested at least 20 people suspected of taking advantage of the situation by looting. the palisades fire is the most destructive l.a. fire ever. it's caused unimaginable damage, including in malibu, where fox news correspondent jeff paul is standing by. jeff, what are the winds like tonight? because i know the

wind has caused a lot of issues for firefighters over the last couple of days. what's it like there where you are now? >> well, marianne, thankfully the winds have really died down compared to what they were two days ago, let alone compared to what it was just last night. but the devastation is far and wide. we're standing here along pch in malibu, and you can probably see the waves here. the waves. this was a beautiful beachfront home that is now burned to the ground. you can see some of the charred wood out here, some of the ashes. and this was a garage door of a family home here. and it will never look the same. you know, we spent some time driving up and down pch today, and it really doesn't matter if it was a multi-million dollar home, a mobile home park, doesn't matter how famous or wealthy the homeowner was. this fire spared no one. now, one of the things i can say that is a bit of a relief for the crews out here is that we are seeing more and more firefighters come up and down pch. this place has

been very busy tonight. you're seeing firefighters constantly, police officers, all sorts of personnel. we've seen them stop by different homes. when they see little spot fires, they put them out. then they move on to the next one. that is the good news. the bad news is we are learning at least two people were killed in this fire in the palisades fire in just down the street from where we're standing. there was an investigation today after investigators found some human remains. they're trying to determine if they died as a result of this fire. but thankfully, it feels like the conditions have changed a bit. it's not as hot. fires typically do. lay down a little bit in the evening. we'll see what happens tomorrow when the sun comes up. >> marianne and jeff. we're also just getting word that the national guard has arrived on some of those scenes to try and help. have you seen any of that where you are? >> you know, we haven't seen any national guard, but as someone who's unfortunately covered a lot of these

wildfires and just disasters in general, it's a welcome sight. i think it's a welcome sight, not only for the law enforcement out here and the fire personnel, but also just for the residents and just knowing that there's that extra layer of security. often the national guard, they'll show up and they can help rescue people who are in tough situations like floods or who are trapped in their homes. but in this particular situation, i really think it could allow both firefighters and police officers to do their job. while you have people like the national guard kind of creating those roadblocks to make sure there aren't people who are getting in. and as i was mentioning before, we're just seeing a constant presence of law enforcement and firefighters. this is what it's been looking like all night. they've got these bright lights out there looking for those fires. they're also looking for any potential people who are out looting, so it's a good sign to see so much personnel out. it also kind of feels a little different tonight. it doesn't feel as anxious. it seems like they have a little bit more of an offensive posture, not such a defensive

posture. hopefully that continues. >> positive news to see the national guard arriving to help out. but you i heard you earlier talking about unfortunately the remains of someone was found in one of those houses that was completely burned to the ground. have you been able to learn any more about that? >> yeah, investigators say basically there was a welfare check issued. a family member wanted to know where someone was. they talked to the police. they came out and they they checked the property. and that's when they found some human remains. now they're trying to determine if those human remains were found as a result of this fire, or if they just been there prior to the fire. this fire is only a couple days old, so it is quite possible that maybe they did pass away prior to the fire. but you know, as they continue to sift through the rubble, unfortunately we're probably going to hear about more cases of people who are missing who ended up dying in this fire because it just moved so quick.

and in some of these neighborhoods, really only one way out. and if that fire took over that one way, there weren't many options for those poor people stuck in those situations. >> all right, jeff, thank you so much for giving us that report and for everything you've been doing this whole night, those fierce santa ana winds we've been talking about. they've died down a bit right now, but they are expected to pick up again by tomorrow night. and again. police have also arrested at least 20 people suspected of taking advantage of the situation by looting that palisades fire were jeff was just now that's the most destructive l.a. fire ever, and it's caused unimaginable widespread damage. there's also damage in malibu, where jeff paul was just now. keep i here for the very latest. for now, back to hannity. already in progress. >> we are safe when lives have been saved and homes have been saved, we will absolutely do an evaluation to look at what worked, what didn't work, and

to correct or to hold accountable any body, department, individual, etc. but my focus right now is on the lives and on the homes. >> do you think your leadership was effective while responding to this disaster? >> i just said what i believe is the most important thing for us to do right now, and that is going to continue to be my focus. thank you. >> wow. >> a little too little. a little too late. they could have cleared the brush, the kindling for these fires. >> they could have had controlled burns to prevent these fires from getting out of control. and they could have had water available from the minute they started. >> karen bass wasn't the only so-called leader in california passing the buck this week. >> we told you the fire hydrants, they ran out of water in part because of statewide environmental regulations. >> l.a. county meanwhile, they sent a widespread evacuation order by mistake last night, causing mass panic and confusion over on fake news. >> cnn well, california

governor, our old buddy gavin newsom took absolutely no responsibility. well, that's up to the local people. take a look. >> what is the situation with the water? obviously in the palisades. it ran out last night. and the hydrants. i was talking to the firefighter on this block. they left because there was no water in the hydrant here. >> the local folks are trying to figure that out. i mean, just when you have a system where it's not dissimilar to what we've seen in other extraordinarily large scale fires, whether it be pipe electricity or whether it just be the complete overwhelm of the system. i mean, those hydrants are typical for 2 or 3 fires, maybe one fire. you have something of this scale. but again, that's going to be determined by the local authorities were saying, you local folks, do you figure it out? so let me get this straight. you have a state known for wildfires. they don't have hydrants that have water. the state regularly is dumping millions and millions of gallons of water into the pacific ocean. instead of filling reservoirs for such emergencies like this. why? because of environmental

concerns about a delta smelt or whatever small fish they're trying to protect. but according to the governor, the locals will need to sort it out themselves. and it's up to a local mayors like that genius mayor of l.a, mayor bass, to figure this out. and today, newsom even tried to avoid answering questions from a woman. this woman lost everything. everything. i mean, she's desperate, the governor seemingly pretending to get on the phone with joe biden. take a look. >> that was my daughter's school governor. please tell me what you're going to do. i'm not going to hurt him, i promise. >> literally talking to the president right now to specifically answer the question of what we can do for you and your daughter. can i hear it? >> can i hear your call? because i don't believe it. >> i'm sorry. there's literally i've tried five times. that's why i'm walking around to make the call. >> why is the president not taking your call? >> because it's not going through. i have to get cell service. >> so let's get it. let's get it. >> i want to be here when you

call the president. >> i appreciate it. >> i'm doing that right now. >> and it's immediately get reimbursements, individual assistance. and to help you. i'm devastated for you. i'm so sorry. especially for your daughter. i have four kids losing everyone who went to school there. >> they lost their home. >> they lost two homes because they were living in one building. another. >> governor, please tell me. >> tell me, what are you going to do with the president right now? >> we're getting we're getting the resources to help rebuild. why was there no water in the hydrants, governor? it's all literally. >> is it going to be different next time? >> it has to be. has to be, of course. >> what are you going to do? i'm doing the hydrants. i would fill them up personally. you know, that i literally have i would fill up the hydrants myself. >> i understand, but would you do that. >> i would do whatever i can, but you're not. it's what they didn't do beforehand. thousands and thousands of people now must begin the process of trying to rebuild their lives. and by the way, trying to call joe biden, given his, you know,

frequent naps, it's probably unlikely he was on the phone or willing to pick up the phone. needless to say, there is virtually no leadership out of washington, dc. and today the president kind of like yesterday, only concerned about himself, actually joked about the fire. it's not a joke. while introducing kamala harris. take a look, madam vice president, i know you're directly affected, so you fire away, no pun intended. >> indeed. >> thank you, mr. president. >> no pun intended. really, joe? at yesterday's presser, biden made it all about himself. he was proud of the fact that he was a great grandfather and only seemed concerned about his son, zero experience hunter, and that he may have lost his house, his vice president, meanwhile, a longtime advocate for the left's radical socialist green new deal equity obsession, well, here she is in 2022, vowing to dole out any disaster relief on the basis of racial

and environmental equity. >> listen, it is our lowest income communities and our communities of color that are most impacted by these extreme conditions and impacted by by issues that are not of their own making. and so we absolutely. and so we have to address this in a way that is about giving resources based on equity, understanding that we fight for equality, but we also need to fight for equity understanding. not everyone starts out at the same place. and if we want people to be in an equal place, sometimes we have to take into account those disparities. >> you've got to take that into account. this is madness. this is insane. keep in mind, california is the greatest example of how this woke, equity obsessed, environmental radical socialism, green new deal, statism, marxism, socialism. this is how it plays out. this is what america

avoided in this last election. feel good programs prioritized over infrastructure. safety leaders are chosen for their identity instead of their merit. the city's preparedness capabilities decline. it is a disaster waiting to happen. that would be. this would be kamala's america. god forbid if she won. thank god all of you stop that madness from happening. when you prioritize radical environmentalism, socialism, dependency, think about it. because how did the green new deal come about? giving everybody a womb to the tomb, cradle to grave society. when you go to dependency on government like this, we've witnessed this all week in california. what happens? it ends in disaster. i've always said whatever name, whatever manifestation, socialism, marxism, statism, whatever manifestation, you get unfulfilled promises. then you you end up paying and losing a fortune of money. people are

poorer. and then you calculate how much freedom you gave up in the name of false security. sadly, thousands of homes and businesses were destroyed and it could have been prevented. fellow americans lost everything. and as for the environment, well, the left, they claim so much. about what? about the amount of co2 released into the atmosphere from this week's fire? it makes every one of their green measures null and void. here with reaction, the founder of public news and the chair of free speech at the university of austin, michael shellenberger, is with us. michael, let's get your reaction to all of this. you you are very keenly aware of all these measures that have been put in place over the years. >> hey, it's good to be with you, sean. i mean, who could have guessed that the people who were so anti-civilization would be so bad at maintaining civilization? i mean, this was completely preventable. we knew that there were santa ana winds. we knew that there was huge fire risk. many reports have been done on this. we just saw there that helicopters

actually do a pretty good job when they're mobilized. why weren't they mobilized for the pacific palisades fire? why wasn't the national guard mobilized earlier? why did we not have enough water for the fire at pressurized levels in the fire hydrants? there's many excuses that get made. people explain these things. they say, well, the reservoirs were full. there weren't enough reservoirs. we haven't had a significant water projects built since 1979. it's la, as everyone knows, is right next to the ocean. so why don't we have desalination plants like they have in israel that work incredibly well? that would have been able to pump fresh water right from the oceans. so, i mean, look, it's a catastrophe. people should be absolutely outraged about it. it is a direct consequence of what you were saying, this woke ideology. we saw voters who, making racialist assumptions, decided not to elect the white male candidate. i saw a focus groups where voters talked about they didn't want to vote for the white male candidate, even though he was talking

about increasing the fire department budget, whereas mayor karen bass cut it. so ultimately, we talk about these culture wars as though it doesn't affect anything. i think we see the effect of the radical left's culture war against civilization, against the united states directly on the ground in los angeles. >> and you watched all of these measures unfold before your eyes. and how is it they didn't have water? how is it possible that they cut the budget in this particular case? and how come the port of l.a. got $650 million for environmental updates? how did that happen? how do you prioritize things that way? >> i mean, you really it comes out of you're saying it's actually a radical, anti-human, anti-civilization ideology. you know, people talk. president trump talked about the smelt, that small fish that they use as an excuse to prevent moving water from the north to the south, which has been which is the only reason that los angeles can exist. they just needed to move more water. they needed to raise the size of

reservoirs. we needed more water reservoirs. we needed more water recycling and desalination. but it was opposed by the environmental groups like sierra club, like nrdc, whose donors control gavin newsom, they control mayor bass. they didn't want those things done. that's why governor gavin newsom talks a big game, and then he drags his feet. he never makes these things happen on the ground. >> michael. thank you. we appreciate it. here with more is the host of the keeping it real podcast, jillian michaels over the years jillian you lost not one but two homes that you had owned to california wildfires. what was your reaction to the interaction between governor newsom and that woman, or your reaction to the mayor and her lack of empathy or, you know, excuse making that went on in the last two days or silence? >> shawn, complete outrage. and what struck me was when she said, governor, will it be different next time? and he said, well, it has to be.

>> and i thought, next time, this is not your first rodeo, buddy. it should have been different this time. and it isn't going to be different because he has had numerous opportunities to change things. and as we just heard michael shellenberger say, he is brilliant. he's beholden to his donors, and that's why he drags his feet. and nothing that was meant to be put in place to prevent this from happening again, like fixing infrastructure, like building the new reservoirs. none of that happened. and that's why we're here again. >> well, it's why we're here again. so many people losing their homes, so many people. what's so frustrating about all of it is every bit of this, when you look at it in retrospect, could have been prevented. you know, you talked about 2014 that was supposed to have the water there. they were supposed to have the reservoirs. you heard governor newsom say, yeah, that's up to the local government to decide. how do how does a state that

has frequent wildfires not prioritize that, knowing it's going to be needed? >> you bring up a great point. and if you allow me to play devil's advocate here for a moment, knowing that you have a state that's prone to wildfires, you have the santa ana winds, you have dry conditions. and let's let's go with climate change. you've got rampant climate change. well, knowing that if that's going to be your argument, then you know you have a tinderbox on your hands. wouldn't you have prepared extensively? and sean, let me point out that northern malibu just burned a few months ago. students were sheltering in place at pepperdine. this is not a one off. it's not a postmortem. as karen bass says. well, we're going to, you know, when this is done, we're going to look back and people are going to pay. you're going to look back. you've had years to look back. who's going to pay? karen, you are you going to pay? people are devastated. i

mean, and this is the beginning, sean, i you know, adam carolla has gone viral for saying that it's going to be impossible to rebuild. i can speak from personal experience in telling you that it took me a year just to clean up the disaster that happened at my home in 2018, just to get a permit. we haven't even seen the beginning of what chaos this is going to wreck. >> explain what happened in 2018. it took you how long to begin the process to build back your home. >> well, why don't we talk about first how the fire started? so the fire started because pg and e, which is a privately owned utility company, never updated their power lines. so they had equipment on the power lines. that was 80 to 100 years old, failed. they supported gavin newsom's run for governor in 2018. he became governor in 2019, never held them accountable. and to be totally honest with you, there was a tremendous amount of information online about. he

literally helped them evade the consequences for that fire. nothing's been updated since, so we lost our home. we're very lucky. we were well insured. we were fine. unlike many other people who are going to suffer in unbelievable ways that aren't well insured, that won't be able to rebuild, that are going to be financially devastated from this. and all i had to struggle with was like, hey, let me call my insurance company. they'll find me a nice little place to live. and they did. they were lovely. and that said, i then spent a year, a year just trying to go to the city. but because of the coastal commission in malibu and get through the red tape to clean up my house. and the ridiculous part is, if we're going to talk about the environment, you brought up co2, but all of this stuff is going to run off into the ocean. sean, look at the wildlife that's been devastated in this fires. there is heartbreaking video of wild animals running on roads that are on fire. i mean, it's just people in tears, homes burned to the ground, lives have been

lost. and for what? for what? honestly? yeah. >> i'll tell you this as i have to break here. it was interesting. in the last year and a half, insurance companies have been pulling back because they knew this was coming and they knew the state wasn't prepared. and they knew at the end of the day, they would probably themselves end up going bankrupt if they insured all these homes. so they pulled out. that was the greatest indicator of, well, i guess a preview of coming attractions, if you will. jillian, sorry about all you've been through and your family. thank you for being with us. when we come back, interactions between former presidents and politicians at jimmy carter's funeral go viral. we have a body language expert. well, we'll break it all down. and doctor drew pinsky, newt gingrich. all straight ahead. >> sean hannity is stepping away from politics. >> all right. >> whoa, whoa. >> let's not go that far.

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yours today@talkline.com. >> all right. the internet is buzzing over very interesting interactions at jimmy carter's state funeral in d.c. earlier today. obama, trump. they were seen laughing together, talking at length, prompting kamala harris to glare at them at one particular point. take a look. here are. >> those. son of a gun.

>> now, numerous lip readers have tried to interpret what was being said, one claiming trump told obama they will need to find a quiet place to discuss a matter of importance. here now, with body language expert susan constantine is with us. well, i thought he was saying, i know you voted for me, barack. come on, admit it. you can tell me. nobody's. nobody will know. how did you interpret that exchange? because i've. i've got to find out what happened. i really do. >> yeah. you know, this was really interesting. sean, thank you so much for bringing that up. what if you look at president obama's hand gesture, you'll see his thumb kind of pointing out this is what we call a thumb shrug. so he was asking a question and he was leaning in. you could see president obama listening, but

you could see these horizontal wrinkles across his forehead. his eyebrows were lifted. his his mouth was turned down slightly. so what what was happening is whatever trump said to him that what we're looking at is his exchange. so there was something about that that upset him, because that is what created those horizontal wrinkles. so if that's what you had stated earlier, what was asked to him, that would make sense of what his why he had that sort of reaction. because he certainly didn't. he didn't. there wasn't a positive exchange there. >> all right. now, contrary to trump and obama, the greeting, if you want to call it that, between kamala harris and the bidens, that kind of appeared to be anything but friendly. let's look at this. one. every. >> shall we? for me, the.

whole. >> wow, barely a hello. what do you what do you make of that? >> yeah. this is what we call stonewalling. when you don't want to make connection with someone, you block them off. so there's no eye contact. there's no camaraderie between the two of them. she's looking straight ahead. there's no no. you know, interpersonal communication that's going on. so this was definitely what we call stonewalling. >> yeah. all right. now trump and obama's conversation wasn't the only interaction that caused a stir online. i don't know what to make of this, but take a look at how former president george w bush greeted former president obama. you know, most people would shake hands. bush appeared to greet his successor in, you know, by tapping him on the stomach. boom. here. what do you make of that? yeah. >> well, first of all, i think this is jousting. i think that what's happening is that, you know, social media is blowing up. they think that there's

some sort of anger issue that's going on. yes. it was a very quick tap. but on the other hand, how often, sean, have you seen a friend of yours out and you don't have really have time to say hello or you don't want to embrace them, but you just kind of tap and say, hey, buddy, how's it going? it's a non-verbal cue. i think it's just a friendly tap, a jousting between the two of them. >> all right, susan, thank you. we appreciate it. now, the democrats feckless leadership, it has been on full display in the wake of the devastating wildfires in southern california. los angeles mayor karen bass refused to answer questions when confronted biden celebrating becoming a great grandfather, and appeared to make light of the tragic situation earlier today, as we pointed out. take a look. >> do you owe citizens an apology for being absent while their homes were burning? do you regret cutting the fire department budget by millions of dollars? >> madam mayor, madam vice president, i know you're directly affected. so you fire away. no pun intended. >> indeed. thank you, mr.

president. it's astounding what's happening. >> in one piece of good news when someone's out here in this way. but they got the notification yesterday that their home fell to the ground. today, parents have babies still standing. we're not sure. but the good news is i'm a great grandfather. >> i as of today, all right. >> here with reaction, the host of doctor drew on rumble. doctor drew pinsky is with us. you know, there's a certain mentality in my mind that if you don't have the proper amount of empathy, joe biden has a habit of kind of making everything about him. oh, i once had a fire in my house. it was a minor kitchen fire. it was never a big house fire. oh, he talks about his son. he talks about being a great grandfather. meanwhile, thousands of people in the south landing in southern california, they are losing everything and they're losing

it because of government incompetence. how do you miss that point? >> well, you miss it when you're not capable of empathy. now, we've all discussed at length over the last couple of years the restriction has cognition. so some of this may be related to his neurological status or whatever medication he be is maybe being treated with to assist with his parkinsonian features. we have to keep that in mind. but really when somebody says as opposed to, oh my goodness, i feel i'm having tell me about what you're experiencing, i feel horrible for you. they put it make it about themselves. that's a narcissistic move. it's about me. i can relate to what you're being through, going through. because let me tell you a story about where i went through something similar. that is the converse, the opposite of empathy. and, you know, you showed karen bass there where she started. she wasn't even stonewalling the it was it was a reporter asking her about why she was in ghana. does she feel bad about being in ghana? does she feel that she owes an apology to anybody?

and he asked this several times and she just froze. here's the thing. these guys are used to being the cool kids. karen bass, gavin newsom they're used to being the party of joy. the guys that are celebrated when they say, we care, we're nice, we're the good guys, and then they can go ahead and be completely incompetent at functioning as a governing body. they we are there is no governing functioning in this city, in this in this state. think about the fact that i live in pasadena. we were hit hard here. do you hear complaints about pasadena? pasadena functions exceedingly well. we have a good mayor, good police chief, good functioning fire department. it was devastation. what happened here. but things work here. we aren't complaining, but they're in los angeles. the mayor was absent and absent again. when asked if she could lead us through this, she should have said, you know what? i took my eye off the ball. i should have been here for. i feel terrible about it. it will never happen again and we are going to take

care of things. i assure you you can rely on me simple leadership, but instead. oh, i'm shocked. i'm shocked that you're not. you're not celebrating with me and dancing with me because i'm the good guy. i'm surprised that you have any questions for me that you don't. you don't you question me and my and my infinite wisdom as a leader. here. look, she she. what was she doing in ghana? what were you doing there? why weren't you here? why don't you solve this problem? why was there no water? what is going on? and you had jillian michaels a few minutes ago talking about the fact that this has happened repeatedly. it has. if they are interested in climate change, for instance, let's lean into that. okay. climate's changing. your concern is co2 in the environment between 2020 and 2024, you just out. you just ruined all of the progress you've made with co2 restrictions in this state across 25 years, times a factor of two. just with these fires, these fires, if you're worried, actually worried about co2 in the in the air, these fires

should your be your first priority. and in fact they're doing nothing to reduce them or make the next one less devastating. >> well, knowing the propensity and knowing the magnitude of these, these fires that happen so often out there, why don't they embrace the science of forestry? you know, why don't they clear the brush? why don't they have control burns? why don't they ensure that every area, every neighborhood has fire hydrants and enough water to put out the fires? if, god forbid, a fire starts, let's lean in it into it further. >> as i said, if your concern is climate change, your number one concern should be your main source of co2 from your state, and that is wild fires. look, i grew up in this part of the world and the foothills here. when i was in high school, we used to look up in the foothills and they were crisscrossed with fire breaks and fuel breaks. they were

everywhere. we didn't lose control of the fires 50 years ago. this was back in the 70s. i spoke to a fire chief in orange county who used to be on the crews that did those clearings, and they stopped doing it. i remember when they first stopped doing it, they reduced it almost to zero because it was interfering with the migration patterns of a field mouse. i mean, you can't make this stuff up. and then the other the environmental concerns put the thing at a complete stop. and now we do no forestry management, and now you have hundreds of thousands of pounds of tons of co2 in the in the atmosphere. >> how is the air to breathe right now out there in la? not too good. doctor drew, we appreciate you. >> you bet. if you if you hear my hoarseness, it's because of the smoke. it's rough, it's unreal and preventable. >> thank you. joining us now, former speaker of the house fox news contributor newt gingrich is with us. so let me understand this. so california

is a sanctuary state. l.a. is a sanctuary city. if you're a drug addict, you get your free needles. if you are in the state illegally, you get free housing, health care, education, all taxpayer funded. if you're homeless, you pretty much get everything for free, too. maybe not the hotels that they're giving out in new york, but they can't give the highest tax people in the country the water they need to put out a fire or practice basic science, the basic science of forestry. you can get degrees from top universities in forestry. >> well, look, i think we need a totally new model. >> i think the federal government should basically impound all the money that was going to give california and all the money that it was going to give los angeles. translate that into help for the people,

not the governments, but take all that money so that, in fact, we're taking all the money california wanted from the rest of the country and all the money los angeles wanted from the rest of the country, converting it into help for the people who have been hurt. hurt precisely because the politicians in california range between radically stupid and corrupt, and are controlled by the unions and the bureaucrats. i think this is a pretty straightforward situation. we'll never see a clearer example of the total incompetence and destructiveness of left wing government than we are seeing in the fires in los angeles tonight. >> if you're going to aid and abet law breaking, and that means helping people that don't respect our laws or borders or sovereignty, if you're going to harbor those criminals, if you're going to give them free housing, health care and education, how about that would mean your you're basically

aiding and abetting in the law breaking. so therefore you don't deserve one federal dollar. how about we insist that that you cannot codify into law law breaking by by adopting a sanctuary status. >> look, i think that president trump is in a position, given the absurdity of what biden did today in promising a 100% federal offset for the cost of the fires. i think the answer ought to be we're going to take we're going to claw back from the state of california and from the city of los angeles, all of the money that biden wants to throw away. we're going to help the people. i want to draw a distinction. i am absolutely for helping the people who have lost their homes. i think all americans have to come together at times like this and help their fellow americans. but i am totally opposed to the windfall profits going to the destructive government of california and the destructive government of

los angeles. and i think your point is right. if we simply cut off all funding to illegal immigrants, and if we simply, frankly, went back to the 1996 welfare reform bill and insisted that if you get money from the federal government, you have to go to work, you can't just sit around and be idle and do nothing. i think you could pay for this, but we should not give california itself a penny. the government of california is corrupt, disreputable and follows policies that verge on insane, and the rest of the country shouldn't be required to subsidize their insanity. >> we're a week and a half. donald trump will be president, and he has a bold agenda, a transformative agenda. you talked he talked about you talked about he went to about one big, beautiful bill. he went to the u.s. senate last night. they're talking about two big, beautiful bills. i think you can make a compelling case on each, each each side of that argument. where do you think it should be won? and

what do you say to the people that believe it should be, too? >> oh, i think we're crazy. if we go for two bills, we need one large, decisive bill. we need two and a half months of president trump and vice president vance barnstorming the country. we know exactly the democrats, and there are about 34 of them who are very vulnerable. and there ought to be a rally in each of their districts. we ought to combine tax cuts, affordability, better take home pay, bigger job creation, lower energy costs with fixing the border. all of them in one bill. and frankly, my good friends in the senate don't understand that if you're in the house and you're faced with a very close election next year, you need dramatic economic growth. that means, as speaker mike johnson has said, you need a bill by memorial day at the very latest. you need a bill by july 4th. the two bill

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kentucky agreed it was ridiculous. blocked it. and with trump taking office soon, that means the effort is likely dead, at least for now. a crushing blow for joe right at the end of his term. here now with reaction podcast host sage steele. riley, gainesville with us. riley, start with you. you know, it's just another way to sabotage trump knowing he has very different policies. let's sell the wall that we have in storage for pennies on the dollar just to screw donald trump, even though we're going to be the ones that end up paying for the new wall. let's put a moratorium on drilling and fracking. it's a typical joe reaction. >> yeah, no, sounds about right. >> you described this as a big blow to joe biden and his administration. but really, how i view this is a win. it's a win for common sense. it's a win for girls and women. it's a win, really for humanity. what we've seen here, what joe biden and his administration has done, i would call this the

most anti-woman, anti-reality pursuit we have seen from this administration thus far. and that's saying a lot. and to be very clear, what this does is what joe biden has done over the past year or so. he's equated sex with gender identity. meaning men can take scholarships, men can have full access to women's bathrooms, locker rooms, changing spaces. men can live in dorm rooms with women. your speech would be compelled. but this judge is just. this federal judge has ruled today, ultimately vacating this nationwide. it's amazing to me that we applaud this because it's him essentially saying men and women are different. but unfortunately, that's a win worth celebrating. so very excited to see this measure taken. >> sage your reaction? >> yeah. first of all, i do want to give credit to that judge in kentucky. it's sad kind of to riley's point, that we have to say, wow, it took some courage to do that. but in today's day and age, it absolutely did. for him to do that and to say yes, there are

differences, beautiful differences between men and women for sure. >> one thing also that stood out to me, though i agree, riley, this is a huge victory for women and girls and so many men who are supporting women and girls, right? and trying to protect us. and the meantime, the majority of the headlines. i was looking at my phone here, new york times, washington post, nbc, cbs, all of the all of the above. right. instead of saying a victory for women and protecting young girls, it says joe biden. judge scraps biden's title nine rules reversing expansion of protections for lgbtq. so they immediately focus on, you know, on lgbtq and that group, instead of focusing on the women, there's never riley said it 100,000 times. it says nothing against anybody in that community. we're going to work on those rules in different areas of sports, but you must protect women. this is why they started at 52 years ago. this was a really big win today. >> you know, and riley, people forget you described in great detail how uncomfortable you

were being in a locker room with a biological male and remind people what that was like for you and then competing against such. >> yeah. well, i mean, to it's hard to put into words the feelings of just violation, the feelings i felt of betrayal. right? i loved my university. i trusted my university. i believed that they had my best interests at heart because after all, that was their job. it was their job to protect us. and suddenly our rights as women, our rights to privacy, our rights to safety, our rights to equal opportunity, that went entirely out of the window. and we were actually the ones who were reprimanded. we were punished if we even dared to question what they were doing by allowing a six foot four man to fully undress in our locker rooms. >> so i'll be interested. >> sage, what does? hopefully he still issues. he still has decisive action to take. >> shawn sage do you ever have that experience?

>> i have not fought. i was a terrible athlete, so nothing that i got to experience like riley gaines. i'll say this though, we got to give credit to senator tommy tuberville. people like that who are trying to push through the protection of women and girls in sports act. it is still not fixed. we have a long way to go. we need republican senators, hopefully democrats with daughters who want to protect them. so let's keep this going when hopefully congress can vote and make this permanent. >> i think you have the potential to be a great athlete. thank you both. more hannity straight ahead. spirit. >> nice going lou. nothing like a little confidence boost to help ease you back into the dating scene. of course, that also includes having a smile you feel good about. fortunately, aspen dental specializes in dentures and implants made just for you, with affordable options and flexible ways to pay. and now they're $0 down plus zero interest if paid in full in 18 months. helping our patients put their best smile forward. it's one more way. aspen dental

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