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>> i tell my guy about 5:20 there is nothing left. >> never what i thought we would be in this type of situation it is horrible. >> we're so heartbroken for our neighbors. newlyweds just bought the some six months ago they all put as many people into my property as i can because my neighbors need help. >> some people says it was the water pressure we don't have enough water blame it on gavin newsom i really don't know what it is. >> why was there no water? >> well a different next time? >> it has to be. >> trace: welcome to "your world" i am trace gallagher we are live in the pacific palisades again special coverage of the fires in los angeles. the last woman you howard from by the way she is the one who confronted california governor gavin newsom we will play that sound bite of rachel

and gavin newsom going back and forth more importantly we will have rachel jarvis live with us to give her side of that story coming up. in the meantime back live the fire department pulled away you can sneak over here and see the smoke. a lot of smoldering buildings still here in the palisades. the firefighters are coming by they tell some water on it and they move onto the next building. the idea is to try to get rid of these hot spots before the wind kicks back up again and the breeze has kicked back up. this weekend we expect it to get much more windy. i want to point out some things i think our facet lading. -- are fascinating. from this house to this house is a garden hose which shows you what we have seen on video was neighbor helping neighbor. grabbing their garden hose, walking across to your

neighbor's house and trying to help them and then realizing the fight was just too extreme and you had to get up and you had to get out. you look around this area and you think yes, it is all gone. how long before they can come back? how many obstacles to these people have to overcome? they don't have power, they don't have water, even if their house survived you can't come back here and then there is the rebuilding process. we will talk all about that with the real estate specialist as well. in the meantime for the breaking news we want to get live to matt finn live in altadena. the eaton fire has destroyed more than 10,000 acres and some 5000 homes. what do you see? >> just to underline how widespread the damages across l.a. county i'm about 25 miles in land for where you are right now near the rose bowl in pasadena here in altadena.

we are on just one residential street, just one that was destroyed and you can walk or drive down both sides of the street. the houses are wiped out. happening right now some of the property so smoldering. firefighters going around putting out the flames. shutting off natural gas. we have seen yesterday all of these claims on the properties because the natural gas is still active volunteer obviously that is very important. 4-5 structures -- 4-5000 structures destroyed here. i spoke to one man who said he just buried his father, grabbed his dad's military flag, and escaped. >> i thought i'd be back in the morning did not think saw from the door it was right there i opened the door i saw the fire right there i was like there's no way it's coming down here.

and now look. >> trace, people across l.a. county are on edge, exasperated, and to add insult to injury we have been getting these false evacuation notices on our phones yesterday and today. l.a. county has profusely apologized saying essentially it is a technical error they are working on. trace? >> trace: matt finn live for us in altadena. we will get back to u.s. news lawrence. these warnings these evacuation notices sent out by the county of los angeles have been nonstop the past couple of days it is freaking people out. these things go out they tell you to evacuate and people are wondering if they have to and then the county retracts those. we will talk more about that. look at the building behind me look up there where the pool where the sun screen was showing you how much life has changed in

such a short amount of time. we talked about rachel jarvis she is the one who lives here in pacific palisades she lost her home, her daughter lost her school. she confronted the governor gavin newsom and we want to play the sound for you because it will give you exactly what the back-and-forth was all about. watch. >> governor you got a second? >> no. >> governor! governor i live here, governor. that was my daughter's school, governor. please tell me what you are going to do. i want to be here when you called the president. >> i appreciate that i'm doing that right now immediately get reimbursements in the system to help you out. it is devastating we're so sorry especially for your daughter. i have four kids. >> everyone who went to school there they lost their homes they lost two homes. governor please tell me tell me what are you going to do with the president right now? >> we are getting resources to help rebuild. >> why was there no water in the

hydrant's? >> all literally... >> will it be different next time? >> it has to be. >> right. >> of course. >> trace: we're joined now by rachel jarvis going to have you on that show that back and forth between you and the governor has been seen around the world. at one point at the beginning of the conversation governor newsome said to you that he was literally talking to president biden about what you were asking him and then we learned a few seconds later he could never get through to the president so that was not an accurate statement. do you think he was genuine with you for the remainder of the conversation? >> trace, thanks so much for having me on. listen, every time i see that video it chose me. it makes me question the integrity of these officeholders we have. i mean every single time i watch this i stood there with a question for my governor and i

really now every time i asked this gets played i realized i was not respected. i wanted to know generally widely what are you going to do for me, my daughter, or friends, our neighbors, the school, all the other schools, every single school in this town burn down what will you do for these kids? i'm a mom and that is what i care about the most. that is what i was trying to get at with him. you are standing in front of the destruction that is my daughter's school, or friends, what will you do for me? the response i got was a bit nonchalant for the seriousness of the gravity of the situation. >> trace: the governor has been accused. >> i'm sorry. >> trace: go ahead. >> to answer your question on the phone with the president what i saw on his phone lock because he did show me his phone i don't know if it was intentional or not i did see there were two attempts made to

the white house they were not the first call. i saw there was a personal call that was made. i saw their calls but when i realized that he didn't have sell reception the point was why don't you have a satellite? you talk about no reservoir having water evacuation orders what else can go wrong? what else? >> trace: and i think my question was basically he said he said he was literally talking to the president right now about what you were asking him about i'm wondering if you asked him about why there is no water and others have asked them the same thing, rachel. we still don't have any answers he says that is a city problem passing the buck what do you think? >> i think were getting to the states where passing the buck will be the norm now. everybody wants to blame it on somebody else and i'm sorry that is not right. we know who is responsible. who fills the reservoirs?

who sends out the evacuation notices? where was the mayor of? we already know all this. no question as farmers with these problems are. the problem now is what are we going to do to fix them? that is why i confronted him because he found me i found him in the most vulnerable place that i could be seen and he could be seen in front of her children's preschool. i want to know if you and your neighbors if you were still astonished by the response to these fires. >> i am still astonished. because if you saw what i saw there was no question i had to evacuate but nobody told me that. i don't know who knew why that would point to be able to say that people here should leave because the fire is supposed to eat you up. and sitting in four hours of traffic to go down a hill did not make any sense to me. do not make any sense to me. not a single firefighter insight

for the time that i was on the way down the hill. >> trace: rachel jarvis listen best of luck to you, your neighbors, your friends, your family thank you so much for coming on. we talked to rachel and she makes a very good point saying that these are so vital right now. people need things. we will talk to the fema administrator to find out exactly what fema aside from just money and writing checks, what is fema planning to do for the people who lost their homes and their livelihoods in southern california next. when you see what it's really like when our skin touches wool... you see why we need downy free and gentle with no perfumes or dyes. it not only makes your clothes softer,

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>> trace: back live here in pacific palisades the power is out the power lines are down you can see there is still some water flowing because they neighbors have the water rolling over here. you could tell the firefighters come by ever so often. moving on in the meantime over in a different part of the palisades early this morning in an area where they are on a canyon. it is really steep canyon area. it looks over the ocean. but we found something that was very unique about how the fire

reacted when it got into this neighborhood. watch this. >> this neighborhood sits on a hill above a canyon you can see that firefighters are still here they are mopping up for all intents and purposes trying to put out the hot spots in case the wind picks back up but on both sides of the street here the homes are destroyed. it is kind of fascinating because you know firefighters have told us they will be studying this fire for years to come and here is part of the reason why. as you walk in here you can see its destruction. you walk up the steps here the archway is still here. it is nothing more than an entryway to hello. the destruction is complete. you can see this house has sweeping views of the ocean but the interesting thing is as you kind of go to your right you can see the canyon below looks virtually untouched. the grass is still green the plants do not show any burn marks but if you look on the

other side every single home is burned to the ground. and one of the unique things about this as if you cover fires in southern california for a long time you know the canyons can be treacherous. if you have a home on the edge of the canyon because once the home gets in the canyon the wind tends to whip it up and that tends to propagate the fire and that spreads up the other side in this case it did not do that at all. speaking of wind we are being told and now it might be picking up this weekend which is bad. bad news for southern california. let's bring in fox meteorologist louis to give us more information on what we can expect. kiana? >> we are expecting that uptick in went heading to the weekend. things are pretty common terms of whether we still have fire warnings that remain in place as will be the case through san diego county.

wind gusts sitting between 10, 20 miles per hour. 48 hours ago where we were. looking at how things move throughout the day we have wind that will start to calm down into tonight and even into the start of our saturday nearly no wind across l.a. county as well as the city of los angeles. back towards the eaton fire on the palisades fire is where we can see the highest wind at the moment 30 e-40 mile-per-hour wind to. by sunday that is where we see that switch and part of the wind gusts. we start to see went to pick a got 30 e-40 towards the santa clarita and the palisades fire. 20-30 miles per hour towards the eaton fire and that does expand to areas like irvine where we can see wind gusts up to 40, 50 miles per hour. sunday will be the day we watch for the uptick in the wind to return once again across parts of southern california. going into next week we do have another chance of a maybe

moderate to strong quint returning across the l.a. basin. it will not be as strong as it was earlier in the week but we will be watching for the chances of this maybe spreading and the active fires currently on going. early monday wind will start to pick back up even hire than sunday headache into monday evening and possibly by tuesday all across the region we have the highest when the expected ford e-50 miles e-50 mile-per-hour wind towards the eaton fire. closer to the coastline offshore wind it does not help in terms of the progress either. we need onshore winds a lot of that moisture to pick back up in order to try to help mitigate some of these fires. nearly no rain in the past couple days next 10 days extended forecast across southern california does not look hopeful in terms of the rain but between now and sunday crews have the opportunity to get out there and battle these fires is much as they can. >> trace: we need the rain we do not need the winter. it looks like we will get the

latter. of the meantime right now very common they are putting air assets up they are trying to utilize this time to get as much done on these fires as possible. to make up the mantra showed up on the scene here breaking news we have a fema administrator right across the street. she will join us a live.♪ dan criswell, next.

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>> trace: the victims of the fires here in southern california desperately need help. fema says help is on the way. fema administration -- administrator deanna criswell will join us live next.

>> trace: we are back live in pacific palisades one of the worst sites in southern california for fires. they have burned almost 20,000 acres here they have lost upwards of 5000 homes the people here need help.

the people need help the other fires need help we are looking for the potential for a lot of help. deanne criswell the administrator of fema joins us live. we appreciate this. the first question is you have been out to the eaton fire you have walked around there what is your take on it? >> yesterday i got briefings from both of the incident command posts both at the eaton fire and walked around altadena and it is destruction like this as far as you can see. neighborhood after neighborhood of. we know there is thousands of families that will need continuing assistance as they start to deal with the reality of what their new feature will hold for them and that is what we will be able to start helping with. >> trace: is there any analogy can you compare because i've covered hurricanes and a lot of natural disasters over the years and you look at what is happening and it looks devastating. >> the thing that really strikes me every time i see a fire like this is that when we go to

hurricanes we go to tornadoes people can come back and sift through and find some of their belongings people lost everything. their memories their whole family belongings are gone and it is so much more emotionally devastating at the same time. so while we help people with the physical journey they will need help with their emotional journey as well. >> trace: and financial help as well and that is primarily what you offer. what kind of hope can people look forward to? >> the biggest thing right now is that if you incurred costs afford the evacuation save those receipts we can help reimburse anything he paid to stay in a hotel room or if you were staying with family and friends and you occur additional -- incur additional costs. so go to disasterassistance.gov and contact your insurance company because you need to see what they pay and mostly what they don't pay so you can be eligible for our programs. as you have long-term needs we will work with each family and

what their individual needs are everyone will have their unique circumstances. our programs we want to be able to tailor them to each of the specific needs. >> trace: i don't think it is a secret this area has been short on human assets does this fema have anything to offer to people here? >> firefighting efforts are run through local fire department. we come in to support the recovery and have the people who have been impacted so we will continue to move resources and because this recovery when you look in and see the amount of debris that needs to be moved that is the resources we will bring to the table. >> trace: what about helping people got the red tape helping people cut their long term because you look at some of these things this is going to be a multi-multiyear project. a lot of people whose homes did not burn they can't come back because there is no power, there is no water, there is nothing here for them. >> this recovery will be really complicated and complex of that is what we need to be able to do

to help them. one of the things that will help with that as president biden approved 100% reimbursement for the first 180 days. that will help pay 100% of these debris removal costs because we want them to get this to preout as fast as possible because once we consider pre-owned you can start rebuilding. >> trace: not to look a gift course in them melt but a lot of people are saying 180 days as a blank in the eye when looking at something like this what about longer-term future? >> 180 days will go by fast that is for the 100% reimbursement but that does not stop our assistance. we will be here throughout the recovery process supporting the governor and the spate as they help these local communities deal with everything from road repair to power repair water system as well as helping with what they're going to do to rebuild these homes that is what we will be able to do. some resources we bring in some way reimburse whatever they need we will be able to support them.

>> trace: a lot of questions about fema and the funding fema has we promise financial aid to people we went through this and the hurricanes does fema have the budget it needs to help people in southern california? >> absolutely right now because of the bipartisan support of congress on the supplemental we have an additional $27 billion so we have the funding to continue the recovery from hurricane helene and milton as well as this response and initial recovery efforts to get us to the steer -- this year. >> trace: you have your hands full the hurricane people still need help. thanks for being on the show. >> thank you for helping me get this word out here. >> trace: we appreciate fema help hand help from the federal government. up next i think you probably heard by now that president-elect trump was sentenced today. and the question is what was the sentence and what does it mean going forward at? we will talk to annie mccarthy and john you next.

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>> trace: the smoke layer here in the pacific palisades is getting a little bit thicker the smoke is starting to come our way which means the wind direction is changing a little bit. still a very mild breeze but we are expecting going to pick up. bad news coming later in the weekend. in the meantime president-elect trump was sentenced today in new york supreme court. no jail time but still the conviction. brian outside the courthouse with more on this. >> trace, president-elect trump was sentenced to an unconditional discharge for his conviction of 34 from lily -- felony counts for falsifying business records this means you receive no punishment no fine, no probation, no jail time, but it does formally make president-elect trump the first president to be convicted of a felony. he attended his hearing

virtually from mar-a-lago trump spoke for 6 minutes and blasted the new york court system. >> a political witch hunt it was done to damage my reputation so that i would lose the election and obviously that did not work. i'm totally innocent i did nothing wrong i think it is an embarrassment to new york and new york has a lot of problems but this is a great embarrassment. >> after trump took to truth social writing i was given an unconditional discharge that result alone proves there is no case, there was never a case, this whole scam fully deserves to be dismissed, today's event was a despicable charade. trump face the possibility of up to four years in jail but judge juan marchand opted for no punishment to know thank you will be protected by presidential immunity when he is inoculated in 10 days. >> trump the ordinary citizen, donald trump the criminal defendant

would not be entitled to such considerable nations. it was the citizenry of this nation that recently decided that he should once again receive the benefits of those productions. sir, i wish you godspeed as he was soon your second term in office. >> martha: -- >> trump says he will appeal this case the timing of that is unknown to. >> trace: brian at live for us outside the courtroom thank you. we bring an attorney and fox news contributor andy mccarthy. great to have you on the show. it occurs to me when you look at all the balls in the air on this think it really was alvin bragg and juan marchand wanting this conviction for the president-elect is that a fair assessment? >> it is, trace. i think they got really nothing out of this they were going to get nothing out of this the one thing they wanted to insist on was that trump get the scarlet letter of criminal conviction on his record the way the law works.

criminal convictions not entered on the record until sentencing happen so that has to happen and they were pretty desperate to get it. they made sure to say no jail, no probation, know anything can you don't even have to show up for the sentencing but we do have to have the sentencing and i think it is to link because what they told us during the trial, what they told the jury, what they told the country, was that the other crime that trump committed trump committed in allegedly falsifying his business records was that he stole the 2016 election by not doing these disclosures. leave aside they are totally wrong about the disclosures if you really believe that he stole the 2016 election is a no jail sentence satisfactory? >> trace: i mean it is a very good point does he have decent grounds for appeal? good grounds for appeal what is your take on that? >> i think, trace, on everything from the

establishment of the prosecution in the first place meaning the statutory grounds they cited, the grand jury proceedings, the fact the indictment to not put them on notice with the trial so even before the trial starts i think they have big issues. but the biggest thing is the judge did not make the jury find unanimously beyond a reasonable doubt what the other crime was that trump allegedly committed. and it is black letter law that if you have a fact that impacts the sentence and remember this is the fact of that change this from a misdemeanor to a felony, that has to be found unanimously by a jury and adjusted not happen here. >> trace: andy mccarthy great analysis as always thank you for coming on. >> thanks. >> trace: in the meantime for us we are still live.pacific palisades,

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>> trace: a little bit of breaking news coming into fox news channel learning that california governor gavin newsom is calling for an outside investigation to find out why the fire hydrants here in pacific palisades did not have water pressure which is unusual because the city of los angeles has already told us exactly why there was no water pressure there and the president of the united states joe biden has already told us exactly why there was no water pressure and those fire hydrants. of course those were both separate answers that makes you wonder why is there an outside investigation when we already have two answers? clearly they don't know which is why there is an investigation and that led to this. we went to an area and we talked about some of

the families coming back and looking at the destruction of their homes. watch this and then we are going to play you a very special sound right. watch. >> this was a three-story home in the palisades you could see the basement down there is nothing but a holding spot now for wreckage. and a lot of families that lost their homes both here and in the eaton fire are kind of coming back and they are going through and sifting through the rubble to see if they can find anything kind of doing the same thing we are doing. are fox affiliate kt cv channel 11 did an amazing interview with the child yesterday and the child making his way back into the family home which was burned to the ground on the child spent some time looking for toys and what amazed him is alike almost every house we have seen burn that he looked over and he saw his fireplace just like this fireplace here and he was baffled

that santa claus just came down that fireplace a couple weeks ago. and the child wondered where would santa claus find them? how would santa claus bring them gifts next year. >> trace: and it was a very good question but instead of hearing it from me i want you to hear it from the child who wondered that. listen to this. >> we were here today so we know what happened and that is the chimney where santa comes and now it is gone. now we can get presence anymore. we have to replace this house and have a different house. >> trace: it is amazing because we over the past few days have spoken to a number of children who lost their school, who lost their homes, they are looking for answers and sometimes the answers just are not at hand. we want to go to jonathan hunt chief correspondent he is also in pacific palisades with more on what he is seeing. >> trace we are seeing

as you are so much devastation. it really is breathtaking the amount here. and we have seen has he looked back at the street here which is almost entirely destroyed just a couple of buildings at the end of it still standing firefighters here trying to put out spot fires we caught up with the few people as well who have just coming back after you have got into the pacific palisades. with those who have come back and look in at shock and awe at what mother nature has wrought tear. we spoke to a couple of them today and we ask one of them what keeps you going listen here. >> family. i think that is who we love that is who you rely on that is who you do all of this for. >> we have a lot of beautiful memories here.

all my friends here. all of this is my community and friends. and really grateful that everybody got out safe. >> trace i want to give you a sense of where this all started. he'll look across here there was the palisades charter high school in front of us and then up in the house right there where brian allman's point to go camera right now that is that is the palisades highlands. that is where this all started. a lot of the people we spoke to today said we have seen brushfires up and those who. >> neil: many times. we never really worried about them because what are the chances of them coming down here? they never crossed sunset boulevard they would never be allowed to get into palisades proper. while those flames did get in here and this is the destruction that has been rocked as a result. as you mentioned a lot of those same people

have a lot of questions of how the flames were allowed to get here. they want to know about the fire hydrants they want to know whether enough resources were dedicated to this firefight knowing the window that was coming. the wind is an important part of this as you know fixed wing and aircraft and helicopters their water dropping capabilities are an important part of that initial firefight they cannot get in the air a lot of the time because the wind was so high. but still a lot of people have questions in one answers to those questions and they want accountability. >> trace: jonathan hunt with his exceptional work out of the field is always thank you. really this amazing reports very quick but it kind of starts at the origin area of the fire and it leads down to the initial bedlam mayhem of how it started. watch. >> according to the official fire map this is the area where the palisades fire may have

started. a short trip down the hill to the palisades highlands and i will show you have that may have influenced the traffic jam that required a bulldozer to move more than 1000 cars. after a 5-mile ride downhill this is where we end up a dead end on sunset where people invented their cars as the fire moved in today those cars are exactly where they left them. >> trace: really is. good time to bring in sheila kelleher at the l.a. county fire department everybody is kind of wondering like everybody was saying we have an idea of the origin of this fire we don't really know the origin of the other fires. are we getting more on the investigation into how this all started? >> that investigation is ongoing and we have not heard the actual cause it but they are working hard to determine what caused the fire. >> trace: it is interesting sheila because for the past 48

hours maybe 40 hours people all around los angeles county have been getting these alerts these evacuation alerts. they are false alerts because they were sent out wrongly and are attracted shortly thereafter but one they are annoying a lot of people in los angeles and number 2 they are scaring people because everybody is on pins and needles it is edgy around here. do you know who is sending these out do you know if they have found with the issue is with the sun to go false alerts? >> i wish i could help you with where those alerts are coming from as far as the false alerts those and are generated from l.a. county fire department. that is from bigger agencies so i'm not sure where the hiccup isn't that what you are right that is causing people to unnecessarily stressed out don't worry. i have fielded a lot of personal phone calls for those questions. there are great apps out there that show boundaries of fires that you can kind of watch yourself. there are resources so you can double check

yourself. i wish i had an answer for you but that does not generate from l.a. county fire. >> trace: still looking for answers as well in the meantime the wind has been fairly calm the past 48 hours hasn't given you a chance to get air assets upfront accomplish of things against these fire's? >> absolutely today i was on the fire line and the burn that comes down that black line they have a ton of cruise and people working in there to keep the fire from going any further north i would say up that canyon. and the home's right there in the canyon. putting get a ton of effort a lot of crews and strike teams out there working to stop the spot fires. remember super steep terrain and very difficult conditions. they have the dozers and there they put some dozer lines around so they can work off of those head is pretty incredible the work that is being done but there is still a lot of fire in there they are beating back. >> trace: which leads to my next question

which is we talked to one of our forecasters who said by the end of the weekend we are talking about big time window again. 50 plus miles per hour. is the county of los angeles ready in case more fires breakout? are there resources? >> we are well aware of what is happening could right now it is a little bit of along with the wind we are taking every advantage of that little break so we can really get those fake hot spots in the front on that plane front to stop. they did an incredible job yesterday when the fire broke out by kevin vasquez and to the kenneth fire 1000 fires we surrounded that so quickly the dozers did an incredible job we hit hard from high above with fire retardant and shut that down because there was a lot of assets and homes over there that were untouched. resources in place 350 over 3000 firefighters.

we have water tenders, we are stacked, everybody is really putting the working. >> trace: sheila kelleher l.a. county fire thank you for your time we appreciate it. we will talk next because you look around at all of this real estate talking about billions of dollars in real estate we will talk to somebody from something sunset that is the famous real estate show on one of the channels. we will talk to that person because nobody knows how you start here. it takes you 6-8 months to get a permit to the city of los angeles to rebuild can you imagine having 10,000 permits stacked up looking for approval? we will talk to him about that and insurancereti and more next test coverage of there devastating l.a. fires continues. makes my skin feel so smooth and moisturized. olay body wash & lotion. discover yours. lowe's knows it's easier to make the right calls when you have the right team.

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these. your advice to them, what is the first step? you come back and see your home is destroyed, what is the first thing you do, jason? >> well, hopefully you have insurance. i think that is the big initial question, than if so, you make a claim, and you hope your insurance covers you for displacement. they will pay for your rent, for the two plus years it is going to take to rebuild your home. >> trace: yeah, i mean, it could be longer than that because you have all these permits, the permitting process and housing process we know in california is tons and tons of red tape. if you've got these permits, it could be a long time. i guess the question people would wonder is, if it takes a long time, is there help? is there long-term help for t them? >> you know, it is difficult. there are so many unanswered questions right now. we are dealing with problems, immediate problems. we haven't even gotten to -- i don't think anyone has tried to

file for permits right now. we are in a situation where we have thousands of displaced families and dozens of available rental homes, and i've got -- we've received over 45 calls today, just took a look, from people who lost their homes, and we have clients calling us, i mean, we had a client call us a few minutes ago, he is outside of a dump and there is over 20 people trying to get in. there is another client, this is a link that should be exposed, another client went to a property that was asking on the market asking $13,000 a month. he offered him $20,000 a month. he offered to pay six months in advance. and the landlord said no, he wants even more. so we are seeing that happen while we've got people that can't even find their tails, let alone rentals. it is going to be a difficult couple of weeks. >> trace: i got literally 30 seconds left for you, jason. they are estimating $150 billion in real estate losses here.

do you ever expect people in the palisades to get insurance ag again? >> yeah, so there is a list of things that i would like the city to do. one of them is the california fair plan only offers insurance for properties up to $3 million, so for most of the homes that burnt down in the palisades, they were never able to get california insurance. >> trace: yeah, altadena, f got to go. thank you so much for your analysis, we appreciate your time. that's it for us. i will see you back here on "fox news at night, we are going to go over all of this, brand-new information, brand-new guests. meantime, we are here in pacific palisades. it looks the same over at the eaton fire in pasadena and altadena. say a prayer for these people. we will see you back on "fox news @ night." ♪ ♪

>> jesse: hello, everybody