>> greg: charlie hurt, michael loftus, kat timpf, tyrus. "fox news at night" is next, i love you, america. >> trace: good evening, i'm trace gallagher, 11:00 p.m. on the east coast, 8:00 in los angeles and this is

america's late news, "fox news at night". >> this looks like a war zone. i grew up in nazi germany and that is what germany looked like after the war and during the war. the differences they bombed from these guys. >> trace: breaking tonight, a war zone. that's what parts of los angeles look like tonight after 35,000 acres burned. 13,000 homes obliterated and infrastructure annihilated. >> this is what is left of the home i grew up in for 31 years. we just had christmas morning right over here, right in front of the chimney. >> trace: this as a bombshell report confirms the 117 million-gallon water reservoir and the palisades was empty and off-line when the fires exploded. governor newsom says anything you hear is wrong, misinformation, and don't blame

me. >> is the situation with the water? >> folks are trying to figure that out. >> how was that there was no water? >> i'm not interested in finger-pointing. >> we have to deal with misinformation. hurricane-force winds. disinformation and lies. >> trace: critics say california lawmakers are proving just as useless, gambling into a special session today to trump proof california. >> wildfires happening and while people are trying to understand what's going on and are worried about the disaster relief, worried about the ability to get homeowners insurance, your chamber gobbled into a legislation session to prepare for donald trump in a way that you are already able to do without a special legislative session. >> trace: this is fires continue raging on tonight and the death toll rises to 11. we have fox coverage, matt finn live in altadena where the fire is 3% can saint but first to jeff paul live in pacific palisades where the fire just 8% contained and maybe even

flaring up. >> reporter: trace, a couple things we are noticing tonight as our coverage of the palisades fire continues, we are noticing a lot of people trying to get across fire lines to get in to check on their home or their business but often times when they do get across, this is what they are met with, this is the facade of a business, an historic 1. that's the only thing that is left. just across the street, this is a clothing store i shopped at less then a month ago with my partner and look at what the fire did to it. this is the entrance, there is nothing left. it's the same story up and down every single block of the pacific palisades, pretty much everything reduced to ash and twisted metal. >> this is what is left of the home that i grew up in for 31 years. we just had -- we just had

christmas morning right -- right over here, right in front of that chimney. and this is what is left. it's -- it's everybody's, not just us. if you look around, this whole neighborhood is -- is gone. >> reporter: 1 of the more eerie things, this is the palisades village and other than maybe 1 business over there, the whole place is standing. it doesn't look like it was affected by the fire at all but then you come across the street, literally just across the street, and you have a building pretty much burn from the inside out. conditions out here are improving, we are not noticing any of the strong wind gusts so that's a good thing that's helping fires. this 21,000-acre fire. there's other thing we are seeing is a lot of national guard. they are at most of the checkpoints and what that is doing is freeing up law enforcement to then come into here and try to protect that property, especially with looting on the rise. >> trace: jeff paul live in the palisades, back to you as

the news warrants. let's go to altadena where matt finn joins us live with the latest there. >> reporter: trace, just to underline how widespread the damage is across la county, i am 25 miles east from where jeff is in the palisades and it looks like a bomb went off here as well. i'm in altadena which is near pasadena and the rose bowl area. you can see the rubble behind me. the latest number we have, 7000 structures damaged or destroyed just in this fire alone. think about that. thousands of people homeless right here from this eaton fire. i spoke to 1 guy who said the only thing he grabbed was his father's military flag. with that he escaped. >> i know this sounds...selfish, but it's my things, i worked hard for those things. my shoes. just -- my nephew drew me pictures for my birthday.

like, those things, irreplaceable things. >> reporter: tonight there is intensifying criticism of la's mayor over city's preparedness for the fires and the critical water shortages. earlier today, the la fire chief told fox la that the city failed fire crews. >> did the city of los angeles fail you and your department and our city? >> it's my job to stand up as a chief and exactly say justifiably what the fire department needs to operate to meet the demands of the community. >> did they fail you? >> that is our job and that's why i'm here and so let's get us what we need so our firefighters can do their jobs. >> did they fail you? >> yes. >> reporter: mayor bass so far insists that the water shortages and the lack of water and fire hydrants did not have an impact on the palisades fire. trace. >> trace: matt finn live in altadena, we will get back to

you as the news warrants. we see the flames behind you. meantime we want to show you live pictures. this is we are told the mandeville canyon area at which is also the brentwood area. brentwood would be just a few miles. it is kind of an adjacent town to the pacific palisades. this is a fire that has just crept up over the past couple of hours. we don't know the acreage yet but while we keep looking at live pictures we are going to bring in a member of the los angeles county fire department, public information officer marco rodriguez along with john, the fire captain. your timing is perfect here. to you first, marco, i'm not sure exactly where we are looking at tonight because there is nothing on the screen from our affiliate there, the abc affiliate. where is this fire and do we know anything about it? >> this is still part of the palisades fire.

since the winds have shifted how we are getting a normal wind pattern, we will see some of the winds start pushing that area of the fire east. that's what we are seeing right now. as you mentioned earlier, that is moving towards brentwood and slowly keeping up -- creeping up. >> trace: it's interesting because when you look at this, it seems to me like it's the biggest flames we have seen in the better part of maybe 18, 20 hours. what does that tell you? >> so a lot of that with the wind change, it's getting into different fuels or more fuels. so the first couple days is when a lot of that fuel was where we saw active fire. with a slight wind shift it's now getting into some of those flanks where we've had containment lines built and this

was part of the weather pattern that we were expecting to change a little bit. so this is just on bird you'll that is now being affected by the wind shift pattern. -- unburned -- >> trace: you are saying in essence that this is burning right now an open area and not really threatening any homes, or am i reading that wrong? >> this area is definitely -- it's a wildfire. it's up in the outskirts of the fields, not necessarily threatening any structures right this second. if it continues here, we will increase the warnings and the evacuation orders. we do have neighborhoods that are, as you see in the pictures, that are on it's path that we are trying to do our best to mitigate that and make sure it does not get there. >> trace: as we watch this fire, you've got kt tv on the

same fire as well as kabc. we've got 2 angles but i want to put this up on the screen. this is president biden. this is some sound, maybe we can put this in the third box. this is what he's saying happened to the fire hydrants in brentwood. listen to him. >> i think you are getting a bad rap. i know you are about these fire hydrants don't have enough water in them. give me a break. give me a break. what this is all about is utilities, understandably, what they did is they cut off power because they are worried about these high tension lines coming down. this is complicated stuff. there will be a lot of demagogues out there trying to take a vantage. >> trace: the president is telling us that the reason the fire hydrants did not work in brentwood is because they got the power. it's my understanding that fire hydrants don't have power, that they don't need power and they work on the water, the gravity

and the pressure and so on. am i wrong on this or is the president right? >> depends on the system. this particular case, they are looking into what happened with those reports. but there are different types of systems. some of them are gravity fed, some of them are pumped by electric pumps and then you have combination systems where both gravity and pumps are used. so in this particular case, the agencies are looking into what happened. >> trace: what about you, marco, can you add to that? i talked to a firefighter on the scene who said these are not run by power, these are run by gravity. >> the reports keep coming in. we've talked to a few other firefighters that reported that the fire hydrants -- i was on the fire line today and we saw people pulling water out of those hydrants in that area within the perimeter of the fire so it just depends on what

location and where the supply of the water is coming from. we know that is a challenging situation, we know that water supply can be an issue and that's what we try to mitigate with water tenders that are going in there and supplying those firefighters -- >> trace: pressure or electricity? pressure or electricity? >> both. >> trace: so the president could be right? >> yes. we are definitely cutting off the power, that's for sure. >> trace: the lights were still on when the fire hydrants were said not to be working, the lights were on so they cut the electricity to the hydrants and left the lights on. >> i don't know exactly where that is, i can't speak on that particular. >> trace: pacific palisades, john. >> the agencies are looking into

it. we can't speak specifically to this case because it's being looked into exactly what happened and where. i can speak to past fires where very similar situations as this, where power was on but it was cut to those areas. some of the areas were gravity fed, where more resources are pulling, some of the times that can slow the trickle down out of the hydrant also. until the investigation is done here, those agencies are going to be the ones that will have to speak on that. >> trace: thank you for your time. we appreciate it. meantime the reporting tonight from the "los angeles times" saying that when the catastrophic wildfires ignited earlier this week a major reservoir in the pacific palisades was empty. senior national correspondent kevin corke is live with more on the reporting on this. >> reporter: evening trace. shock and outrage over the times reporting officials telling the paper that the reservoir had been closed for repairs to it's

cover, leaving the 117 million-gallon water storage complex right in the heart of palisades not operable. that revelation comes amid growing concern tonight and questions about why firefighters ran out of water while battling the blazes in the palisades. you will recall earlier this week the times reported that numerous fire hydrants, especially in the higher elevations streets in the palisades, went dry, leaving firefighters struggling with low water pressure as they battled the flames. tonight governor gavin newsom is calling for a probe, posting this on x, i'm calling for an independent investigation into the loss of water pressure to local fire hydrants and the reported unavailability of water supplies from the reservoir. we need answers to ensure this does not happen again and we have every resource available to fight these catastrophic fires. meantime a spokesperson for the

los angeles department of water and power said in a statement that that agency was still evaluating the effect of the reservoir being placed off-line. adding in a statement, the system was never designed for a wildfire scenario that we are experiencing. not exactly a comforting reply say critics who in righteous indignation are demanding answers tonight. >> trace: a lot of people demanding answers. kevin corke live in d.c., thank you. governor, i live here, governor. that was my daughter's school, governor. tell me what you are going to do. >> literally talking to the president right now to specifically answer the question of what we can do for you and your daughter. >> and i hear your call because i don't believe it. >> i'm sorry, there's literally -- i've tried five times, that's why i'm walking around. >> why is the president not taking your calls? >> it's not going through. we have to get self-service. >> trace: as tens of thousands

of los angeles resident struggle with losing their homes and losing much more, one resident confronted governor newsom about the states much criticized emergency response. let's bring in our confronter in chief, pacific palisades resident, california state assembly member and climate depot.com executive editor. thank you for coming on. everybody, we appreciate it. rachel, that was your deal right there. we know that he wasn't literally as he said literally talking to the president at the time because he could not get through to the president but you think they just of his conversation was fairly accurate? >> i think he also wasn't talking to the president because he was talking to me. that was a little bit offensive. every time i watch it now it's a different emotion to be honest. what i saw, he did hand me his phone. he did open his phone and i was able to see there were a couple of calls, i saw who they were to, i saw names, potentially his wife and i saw the order. but he wasn't on a call.

that's a fact. he was talking to me. >> trace: yeah. he wasn't on the call. meantime the "los angeles times" rights the following, new some orders investigation into dry fire hydrants that hampered la firefighting in la going on to say it governor gavin newsom has ordered an investigation into the causes behind water supply problems that left fire hydrants dry and hampered firefighters efforts during the devastating fires in southern california. is calling for an investigation but joe biden says he's given us the answer, it was the electricity that was turned off and you have the water authority saying no, it was the water pressure that simply wasn't there. two answers and now calling for an investigation. i'm confused. >> newsom is nothing more then a liar, trying to deflect the blame. yesterday he said asking questions was inappropriate. yesterday he said this was all misinformation. today he says golly maybe we should investigate. we need more rachel's to confront every politician in office in california, to demand answers. what did they do to prepare for

this, why do they not have the resources in place, the fire mitigation, why did we not have proper insurance for most of the homes in california, why do we not have proper firefighters stopping that all of these issues. we did not even have water in the most important reservoir that was needed and now we have a president that seems to be spinning a tale about power needed. if you know you are turning off the power, you have backup generators because you know you have a fire on your hands and you need to pump water. >> trace: but the power was on and rachel can attest to that because she was there at the time the video is not lying, the power was on. state probe to why that reservoir was off-line, empty when the firestorm exploded. going on to say officials said the santa ynez reservoir have been closed since about february for repairs to it's cover leaving 117 million gallons water storage complex empty and the heart of the palisades for nearly a year.

you talk about a colossal mess up, mark. >> yes. we don't need an investigation, we know the exact causes. it's a lack of priorities for one thing, human flourishing human economics and human well-being. this is a government at all three levels in california that perhaps more than anyplace else in the entire planet has gone all in on what you could call the garden of eden syndrome and they -- all of their policies were designed to restore california to prehuman settlement, a pristine environment, we will save the species, the fish, we are going to save. it never even occurred to them that all the people live there, that more and more people and development was going on and that they needed a plan, they needed multiple layers of plan to deal with these kinds of catastrophes which they apparently knew because they kept warning us climate change was causing them which by the way the science doesn't support. but still they claimed that they

knew they were coming and yet all they cared about was bragging about lowing up the dams, destroying them as gavin newsom did. this is an ideological philosophical problem that that's the solution right there. root causes of this. >> trace: rachel, when you hear this, what do you think? you hear the excuses and investigations. >> it makes me sick because it's me who's affected. when this guy is doing what he's doing, there are consequences. there are consequences to decision-making or not decision-making. there are consequences to being in west africa when west los angeles will potentially be on fire. >> trace: crazy. carl, he wrote the press release, the headline is, la fire victims may not be able to rebuild. this nightmare is only beginning because existing california state laws and regulations will make it impossible for many fire victims to rebuild. 30 seconds for you. explain that. >> it's basically the insanity of california building regulations and all these fire victims are underinsured back

many in the government fair plan which is not have adequate reserves, and they are also going to face a mountain of regulatory hurdles including in the palisades area, coastal commission approvals. i'm calling on the legislature to convene this monday. not to trump proof california but a fireproof california and to help these fire victims get back their lives. >> trace: very quickly, mark, your take on this? a lot of these people don't have insurance and god knows if they will get it again. >> absolutely not. again, one of them is environmental regulations. avenue some during the lockdowns bragged that california had more billionaires than anywhere else in that the economy was doing well. gavin newsom needs to care about the middle class and about the working class. he does not. this is about the donor class. >> trace: nice to see you all. welcome. man, oh, man. "fox news at night" was back in the field anchoring the 4:00 p.m. our on fox news and

covering the wildfires. a unique example now. in the pacific palisades a strange dynamic that some wildfires present. >> this was a three-story home in the palisades. you can see the basement down there is nothing but a holding spot now for wreckage. a lot of families that lost their homes both here and in the eaton fire are kind of coming back and they are going through and sifting through the rubble to see if they can find anything, doing the same thing we are doing. our fox affiliate did an amazing interview with the child yesterday and the child made his way back into their family home that was burnt to the ground. the child spent some time looking for toys. what amazed him is, like, almost every house we have seen burned, that he looked over and he saw his fireplace just like this fireplace here and he was baffled that santa claus just came down the fireplace a couple weeks ago. the child wondered where would

santa claus find them, how would santa claus bring them gifts next year. >> trace: trying to explain this to our kids, very difficult. you are looking live at the mandeville canyon that's near the palisades fire and very near brentwood. coming up coming up, the national guard deployed to help fight california wildfires. we will check in with one of our reporters on the ground and neighbors helping neighbors. a pacific palisades resident joins us live onset next with how he is helping. ♪ ♪ explore the world the viking way from the quiet comfort of elegant small ships with no children and no casinos. we actually have reinvented ocean voyages, designing all-inclusive experiences for the thinking person. viking - voted world's best by both travel + leisure and condé nast traveler. learn more at viking.com.

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♪ ♪ >> trace: the california national guard deployed to help fight the fires and secure areas of los angeles that have already been evacuated. christina coleman live in altadena to show us how they are helping support disaster response efforts tonight.

>> reporter: yes, i embedded with a california national guard tonight as they show us how they are working around the clock to support local law enforcement as they protect areas like this. areas that have been absolutely devastated by the wildfires ravaging parts of this community. take a look at this video. they are working around the clock at some intersections, preventing people from going to the houses and businesses that have been destroyed. they are helping out in a lot of ways. they want to prevent looting and keep folks away from the down power lines and gas leaks, dangerous situations. >> we are from this community too. all of our soldiers are from california, army national guard. we are close to home so we feel for these people. >> reporter: the guardsmen were deployed wednesday. some of them even sleeping nearby at the california highway patrol communication center so they can be close to areas where they are desperately needed.

as they collaborate with the la county sheriff's department, california highway patrol and l.a.p.d. to protect lives and property. so far the deadly eaton fire which has ripped through parts of altadena where i met tonight has destroyed or damaged at least 5000 structures. combines these devastating fires around la county have destroyed so much, including the homes of two california national guardsmen who still offer to help out. >> both of them lost their house, their homes to the fires. one of them has a family and both of them wanted to come out, be part of the operation and to help the community. the fact that they still wanted to come out after they experienced personal tragedy speaks volumes to their character. >> reporter: it absolutely does. more members of the california national guard are expected to come to this area to help out as crews continue to battle these

wildfires. trace. >> trace: christina coleman live on the scene in altadena, thank you. let's bring in pacific palisades resident, singer and songwriter. john, our hearts go out to you for losing your home in the pacific palisades. we've been in that area for the past three days. it is awful. you and the people that live around you, thousands, 5000, may be more. maybe more when this is all over. it's awful. we want to show some pictures of your house. i know this is not healthy for you. that's the fire. we've got some pictures before and after of your house that we would like to put up on the screen while you are talking. the question is, what exactly do you know what happened and were you there when it was happening? >> we've seen these fires before in the hills over the years and, you know, i live very close to the bluffs which is about as far from the hills as you can get. so in the past i have never

evacuated. this one, something told me to at least start to get ready. so i packed up my dog, i packed up my stuff and as i pulled away, there was no part of me that believed when i drove away that my house would be gone. for that to have happened, like, the firefighters, they believe that sunset boulevard is the alamo because that's the town, that's the commercial part. beyond that, hundreds and hundreds of homes. so you never believe that a fire of this magnitude -- that it would not get stopped. and so for my house to burn, the entire city of the palisades would have to be decimated. and unbelievably, that's what happened. >> trace: we see you are wearing your maga hat. we've got another picture here of the stuff you took away from the fire, which is i mean just a bare necessities. you've got that make america great again hat in a couple different colors and you've got

guitars. >> that's not all. >> trace: we brought you on the show a short time ago because you wrote the trump song, fight, fight, fight, and so you clearly are invested. >> the people who know me on social media know me from that song and it was such an important part of my life the last couple months that i put that up kind of to let people -- people were asking are you safe, are you out, just letting them know i'm safe. it was a little bit lighthearted like i'm going to keep writing songs, still going to make america great. i packed up my dog, i got as much as i could, my photographs, artwork, you know, business tough, whatever, computers. i took off from my dad's apartment which was only 6 miles away but it took me two and a half hours to get there. by the time i looked at that camera, my picket fence was on fire, two and a half hours after i left.

>> trace: only a little time left but what is the plan? >> i was hoping to crash at your house. no, you know, right now i'm moved by the generosity and the outpouring of love that people have shown. it's really a testament to the human spirit. i don't think a lot of people are talking about that now due to the magnitude of the fires but no less than 30 people have said come stay with me. has special needs daughter of a good friend of mine left a voice mail on my machine and she said i want to donate, i want to donate part of my trip paycheck for you. it just blows your mind and strangers saying when you rebuild, tvs, stereos, internet, we've got you covered, we will hook you up. i don't even know these people and it's a story after story like that and that's what keeps me going and i'm sure that's what's keeping a lot of people going. >> trace: you are a good man

and we are glad that you are okay and we are very sorry that you lost your home but thank you for coming on the show and best of block. >> thank you. >> trace: he lives overlooking the bluff, overlooking the ocean. in addition to our regular nighttime shows, "fox news at night" has spent the past few days anchoring that works 4:00 p.m. hour, touring the neighborhoods devastated by the historic palisades fire. and then we came upon some of these homes that were above the canyon and we thought the canyon would have been detrimental. we found out a whole different story. watch. >> is neighborhoods it's on a hail of other canyon. you can see that firefighters are still here, they are mopping up for all intents and purposes, trying to put out some of the hot spots in case the wind picks back up but on both sides of the street here the homes are destroyed. it's kind of fascinating because you know that firefighters have told us they will be studying this fire for years to come. here's part of the reason why. as you walking here you can see

it's distraction. you walk up the steps here, the archway is still here but it's nothing more then an entryway to hell. the destruction is complete. you can see this house has sweeping views of the ocean but the interesting thing is as you go to your right you can see the canyon below looks virtually untouched, the grass is still green, the plants don't show any burn marks. but if you look on the other side, just like this side, every single home is burned to the ground. usually these wildfires get trapped in the canyon. you see there on the ridges, the fire. that by the way is part of the pacific palisades fire we are being told. but it has moved to east and a little bit north toward the mandeville canyon and brentwood area. we haven't gotten any status on acreage or anything else but you

can see that it is very active. the winds are not as high as they were a couple of nights ago but they are high enough, they are pushing embers, pushing flames, and that is bad news especially when you look at how devastating this palisades fire has already been. coming up, why president biden says governor newsom is getting a bad rap and why their explanation for the drive fire hydrants does not hold water.

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a thrill kill and was a thrill and ultimately this court imposed no punishment at all but did give trump's critics what they wanted, that is to label him as a convicted felon. it's sentencing by sound bite. >> trace: let's bring in axiom strategies erin perrine, political strategist lindy li along with former g.o.p. vise chair stewiacke a sick walk. great to have you on. you heard jonathan turley there,

it sounds like he's saying this is third world justice. >> it's okert to be with you and that's absolutely correct. this is law fair. it's clear and simple. because democrats were afraid they could not defeat donald trump at the pallet box they tried to nullify the will of american people through legal means. this is outrageous. it biden is going to pardon hunter he might as well pardon president trump because this is clearly politically motivated and they've been trying for years to bring the man down. even democrats admitted that this is the weakest case of all, notable of the cases available. >> trace: i want to go back to the fires briefly because i know you are a california guy. gavin newsom was talking about this being filled with ms. and disinformation. >> we have to deal with this myth -- misinformation. hurricane-force winds of misinformation and disinformation. people want to divide the country and we will have to

address that as well. it breaks my heart as people are suffering and struggling. that we are up against those hurricane force -- forces as well. >> trace: hurricane force of this and misinformation but did not give one example. >> you know, this guy has real goal. there is footage of him telling the locals of the palisades that the locals will have to figure it out. we've seen what they've done, i've been in la, i was in la almost 20 years. i watched to get worse and worse, shutting down dams, closing reservoirs, i was there for the record rain. 95% of it and you are saying that the disinformation? at this point people have to see this is not accidental anymore. they have been doing this on purpose and they have to be held accountable. it's sad that people's homes have to be burnt down for this, it's really sick. this is terrible.

>> trace: florida governor ron desantis said this when asked about mayor karen bass in los angeles. >> if that were a republican mayor i can only imagine what that would do. criticize the president-elect but also hold these other people accountable. >> trace: somebody has to be accountable and if it was a republican they would be accountable. >> that's right. there's a vacuum of accountability and self-awareness by democrats at this point. governor desantis, like the rest of the republican governors at mar-a-lago have had to stand in the breach and try to put forward good sound policies in the face of the failure of the biden administration for the last four years. now they've got donald trump on his way back into the white house, they know that sound policy is going to be coming from tcu to make it easier for them to deliver good policies for their states as well. these meetings are good, the republicans are united, the governors are ready to hit the ground so come generate 20th when donald trump is warning and d.c. gets back to work, these

states can deliver as well for the american people. >> trace: la fire chief was asked on fox 11 tonight if they failed you, talking about the city. she did not answer and they asked again. her final answer was yes. yes, they failed us. >> they failed her, they failed everyone in los angeles. they cut the fire department because people did not want to take an experimental shot. then they turn around and focus on who you sleep with as opposed to what are your credentials in order to get the job. now we are seeing the results of people deciding the vote for making history over from being competent. people have lost their livelihoods because of that. >> trace: very quickly, biden says today he could have beaten trump. so good kamala. >> what a joke. that enrages me. you want to talk about coverups. the cover up, up biden's agent cognitive decline. i tried to speak up and i got threatened. every time i wanted to speak up

about his age the white house threatened me and tried to pressure me into remaining silent but no more. biden is delusional. there's no way. every time he speaks we wonder if he's going to make it to the end of the sentence. >> trace: the acting i.c.e. director said he should have close the border three years before he did. final thoughts? >> he's absolutely right. this is a man who served in i.c.e. for decades now and understands that it was the biden administration and democrats who held i.c.e. and cbb back from being able to do their jobs. the good news is, donald trump is coming back, border security is going to be a top priority for the american people. democrats were the ones who politicized it because donald trump made it a priority. all of the tools have always been there to secure the border and other joe biden is leaving the white house it is going to get done. >> trace: thank you. coming up, after mel gibson on fox news, what he said about those drive fire hydrants as wildfires burnt across los angeles.

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one always suspects that this might happen but one thinks that the resources, you know, the capabilities of the men and women will be on standby, that they will be able to cope with any situation that comes up but apparently some people were

asleep on the job. mainly our leaders there. but, you know, that is something they have to live with. >> trace: let's bring in the author of what's killing america, seattle talk radio host jason rantz and the federalist elections correspondent brenna lyman. jason, mel gibson says some he was asleep at the switch and he's right. >> absolutely right. i think the results speak for themselves. it's one thing to say that look these things sometimes happen and depending on what the cause of this was, maybe or maybe not it could have been immediately prevented but what we know as a matter of fact, had they planned better for this, had everything been working the way it was supposed to, i don't think it would have spread to the way that it did. that's a lot of damage and destruction that's on their shoulders. >> trace: brianna. >> i don't think they were asleep, i think this is just a problem with the fact that they are incompetent. people like avenue some. california voters in 2014 voted

for proposition one to create new reservoirs. scenarios like this help. get so many have been built? zero. ineffective leadership. they weren't asleep but they were just not doing their job because they are ineffective. >> trace: amazing to me because mark zuckerberg said the following about the biden administration, these people from the biden administration what called up our team and, like, scream at them and curse, talking about censorship, and i don't know that all these different agencies and branches started investigating and coming after our company. censorship, admitting to it, jason. >> he must be lying because we were told credibly by the biden administration that that did not happen at all, that they never put that kind of pressure, that they were sending friendly notes saying hey, you know, might be some misinformation up there you might want to take a look. it's so silly. we always knew this was what was going on. but they lied to us and media outside of conservative media did not do anything. >> trace: 30 seconds for you

brianna. >> hearing this is a gut punch. the supreme court had an opportunity to squash this type of collusion between big tech and the government and conservative justices turns her back not only on americans but the first amendment and zuckerberg can sit there and edmonton what but americans have no protection because the supreme court did not do what they should have done and protect free speech so we are now subject to the pendulum swinging with mark zuckerberg. >> trace: brianna lyman, jason rantz, thank you, we appreciate it. the fire is still burning right there, that is part of the palisades fire. we will continue our breaking news coverage. before we go i want to wish josephine a happy 105th birthday, pictured here with cousins. thank you for being a wonderful "fox news at night" fan. and thank you for watching america's late news, "fox news @ night". i'm trace gallagher in los angeles and we will keep you posted on what's going on. my have a great weekend, we will see you monday. my husband and in the village bakery located in hayden, idaho. our mission is to employ people with different abilities.

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