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♪ hello america i am mark levin this is "life, liberty & levin" saturday but thank you for being here with two great gases studenandformer speaker newt gih superb attorney david but before we get to them, let me first say this. the people who are facing this horror in california, our hearts and prayers go out to you. we as a nation will not leave you fending for yourself. were not going to happen. any corner of america who gets our help as far as i am concerned the first responders we cannot thank you enough. on this program and on my radio show we thank you on days when you are not facing life-threatening situations. but on days like today we are humbled that you do what you do. the vast majority of us could never do.
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god bless you thank you and be safe. and now we need to have an honest discussion ladies and gentlemen. politics aside, static aside, let's look at california. one of the great states that used to be really fantastic natural resources it was the land of opportunity when i was growing up everybody said go west go to california if you want to be successful. foot to make something of yourself go west. now people cannot get out of california fast enough. nature did not do that, mankind did that. when your god is nature, when your god is nature and the devil is a ma mankind, nature wins. the radical left when she did think nature is about polar bears and endangered species. it's about that but it's also about floods, earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, tsunamis,
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massive death. that is nature too. nature, sort of this ambiguous thing, nature. they want you to think mother nature. nothing mother nature about it. to address it. tried to stop nature from doing what it does. regardless of what the modern day buffoons say who howl at the moon and howl at climate change we cannot stop the climate from changing. we cannot stop heat and cold and everything in between. we can't and we never will pay the arrogant to those who say we can is quite repulsive quite frankly. these are the same politicians cannot get the trains to run on time as muzzling it would have said. in fact they can't do any of it. somehow they're going to fix the environment by did new teen you of your liberty and your
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opportunity and your wealth. when government fails when politicians fail, so-called experts and planners and bureaucrats fail they need to be held to account. that's what's taking place in california. they failed. when ideology trumps everything, everything commonsense, knowledge, experience, it cost people their lives. their homes, their property of theandtheir businesses, their a. they create massive amount of pollution the air is dirtier than it has been and god knows how long in california and the same with the water. the name of the environment the environment is being destroyed. these people need to be held to account. the people who did this. politician bureaucrats experts alike the ideology needs to be exposed de- growth ideology is what it is. how can you have california one of the great states with
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enormous resources. when you run out of water. when you run out of energy. we have a brownouts and blackouts, economic dislocation. turn on the fire hydrant to start a fire there is no water pretty of massive fires in time and time again but nothing like we are seeing now. that is not nature. that is mankind. it's not all men, it is hard-core ideologues of the le left. they have done this to the state of california. law and order, there is no law and order in california. crime is rampant. the secure border? there is no secure border in california they invite illegal aliens. go right down the list is most regulated state in the unit at the highest tax state and the union. it's got more bureaucrats, more control, then any state in the country.
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and it is a disaster. it looks like a third world disaster which was once really the shining state on the hill. that is what is taking place. nature cannot be stopped. it can't be stopped. nature can be very, very violent. it kills. that is what it does. but, we can do what mankind is capable of doing with our intelligence, with our technology, with their know-how, with our muscle to treat eye too ameliorate situations to try to prepare for them and to manage them. this is not a hope or amiri aspiration but look at florida, look at governor desantis. they know they're going to get hit with hurricanes over and over and over again. we cannot stop hurricanes. and so for the marxists like bernie sanders and other buffoons like john kerry and al lohr failed politicians for people like that they threw
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around the phrase climate change everything is supposed to go away that he should be regulated more comic taxed more and eat more power print any more control than you have bigger bureaucracy mark experts keep moving hard left, hard left. more destitute the circumstances are more dangerous. look at governor desantis look at the hurricanes, pre-positioning supplies. having the forces necessary the resources necessary but mark, you can break the hurricane we can predict california califorg have a lot of wildfires. why? because they create the circumstances for it. this ideology we are dealing with in the democrat party is a occult. it is a pathology. they cannot figure things out because they are ideologues. they are arrogant about it. they are fanatics about it.
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and so they are incompetent. ideology does not show you how to know drive a car, ideology is driving everything you do. these radicals are driving everything you do you are going to fail. because you dismiss science be dismissed in knowledge, dismiss, common sense and experience but this is a de- growth movement it's about power. it's economic socialism but it's ideological marxism. they talk about economic justice that talk about climate change. this is eight to radical ideology the people in california are paying the price. they are paying the price. the name of the environment they are destroying the environment are they. and the name of clean air they are destroying clean air the name of clean water there to string clean water in the name of protecting species they are killing species. because that is what they do.
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the most intrusive, controlling, regulated state in the country is a disaster in every respect. the last several years what was newsom doing? he is having a grand old time keeps visiting the white house. it wants to debate desantis he goes around the country thanks he's presidential material we should know by now from the pandemic this guy is not presidential material. he cannot run a cash register at a 711. he is a disaster. when i watch him, his mannerisms his look his hair and so forth i think of justin trudeau he is the justin trudeau of california. justin trudeau in 10 years had destroyed canada. newsom has destroyed california present the oma goes back to jerry brown he found to become popular by becoming a radical in the environmental issues, and that is what he became.
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three relatively stupid people quite frankly. look what they have done to the state don't get me wrong the people vote for them. they took care of that too, democrat party. they made sure when they won an election they would never lose an election again. you can see they're trying to copy that at the national level but they change the rules, change the voting system and they change this is hendry. white open borders and localities in california that want to require voter id for voting they been told by the state for the record not to do that. just to sign into law. open borders, illegal immigration, no voter id. let me put it to you this way they do not put that in place to prevent fraud, did they? they put in place to commit fraud because they are power power-hungry. at all costs. and so they are stuck.
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the people there are stuck. they cannot break out unless they leave. as the lesson for the united states of a mirror because it's the nancy pelosi's, the kamala harris, the shift, this is what they think. this is what they believe. it cost people their lives just like open borders cost people their lives. just like defunding or slashing the police, or not supporting the police cost people their lives. just like undermining the military and putting the poison of awoke in the pentagon, cost people and will their lives for this is a dangerous ideology. as a dangerous party. i'm not politicizing anything. this is reality but you with the people know it. that is why you came out and defeated the democrats and elected donald trump by a
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landslide. now, let me continue. gavin newsom misled the public about while fire prevention this is from npr this report was all over the place. i got it right there npr. the system 2021 investigation cap radio california newsroom collaboration found governor gavin newsom represent his wildfire preparedness and even disinvest it in prevention in other words he lied and lied and lied. investigation of cap a radio california newsroom collaboration bound newsom had overstated the success of forest management projects at last year the governor cut funding for fire prevention. that is disgusting. do you know what it's not on a lot of people but it's essentially on you. you coward. look what you did. certainly in parts. the "new york times," you're going to the left. california controlled fires can save homes why aren't more
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happening? september 2020 f 24 a few month. they say in part federal state agencies as well as other groups that work with them including private citizens and businesses are setting fires small trees and other vegetation that could otherwise feel an intense wildfire. researchers show these birds reduce wildfire risk potentially saving lives and property. they set a goal in california anthat is never been met. and the governorship of newsom very busy, i new sen simper thee is increasing its use of fires the method is called officials and experts alike say it's far from enough to meet the threat posed by catastrophic wildfires. land managers in the state including california department of forestry and fire protection and federal agencies are set a target of intentionally burning 400,000 acres. next year, right now amount of land combined will be larger than the city of l.a. isn't that ironic question at the goal is to chip away at the
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10 million -- 30 million acres officials estimate would benefit them some fosome form of fuel rn treatment 2022 there is data publicly available at 96000 of a were burned by these land managers but that's a pittance. anywhere close to the targets the climate scientists with study control burns. but real profound benefits of reaching the target ultimately going beyond it. what did the knucklehead at mayor duke was do question she e fire department budget by almost 18 million dollars we need money for illegal aliens we need money for healthcare and illegal aliens in california. so many priorities other than saving the people of california. according to one study from researchers at columbia stanforstanford, low intensity s category that includes natural fires prescribed burns reduce wildfire risk by about 60%. it goes on and on there is no question about it. so why wou i went there doing i?
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trump fox news points out vines all over the place long history of warning newsom overt wildfire prevention over and over going back to 2017, 2018 he said to newsom he said it to his face clean the floors of the forest. you've got to stop doing what you are doing which is just waiting at the problem. you got to go and fix the problem we will help you fix the problem. trump was mocked. because these other people are so smart. trump has a long history of putting wildfires or the microscope across its first four years in the white house including generate 2019 when he threatened to cut federal funds in california if reforms were not made to the forest management services. i think trump is owned not only an apology but these people need to start listening to him. we have other things how does a state run out of water? the last time i checked they live on an enti entire coast ofe
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pacific ocean. wouldn't that be a priority priority israel has no fresh water except that they create from the mediterranean and desalinization plants. california is very, very busy they don't have time for that years of corruption and miss management led to l.a. running out of water in the middle of the palisades wire fire "new york post" chapter and verse, chapter and verse with past is prologue more than 20 years later california faces another man made electricity crisis. wow, more than 20 years ago california leaders unduly interfered and the states electricity market with hasty mandates and price controls to the detriment that endured rate spikes electricity shortages for anything where they committing suicide? they don't believe in capitalism, private property rights they don't believe in it. these are ideologues. a bizarre fringe religious
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zealots or that's what they are abc news wh by california and se blackouts for they look at the power grid. we need to look at the politicians, the so-called experts, the bureaucrats, we need to look at the party, the ideologies that are doing this to our fellow citizens. to our fellow citizens. this is a disgrace. this is a disaster. we cannot sit back and watch this when you see joe biden i knew it listen to the idiocy of a bernie sanders and so forth. or an al gore or john kerry. all of these lunatics. they want this for the entire country. we did not elected donald trump, gina would be happening to the power grid? you know what happened to the gasoline and oil in this country? you know what would be happening to us? you cannot treat an industrialized nation this way like it is some kind of a fourth grade science experiment. and yet that's exactly what's
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mark: will come back america. we heard their friend newt gingrich the former speaker as you all know, historian. that is why what i an intercom. before we get into a house of representatives document california briefly. california's water shortages electricity shortages run out some blackouts. it's got uncontrollable fires. it's got the highest taxes in the nation the worst regulatory state in the nation. it's got a one-party rule where the democrats on the left can do whatever they want. that's why it isn't a disaster. >> listing california and go from the promised land of ronald reagan to a nightmare. and tragically watching the nightmare this weekend as
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literally square miles of los angeles are burning. and they ran out of water. it turns out they were warned that years ago this it was inadequate. when the smoke finally clears and the people look historically at how bad the california government is and how bad the los angeles government is it ast really raises a question. as americans what do we owe our fellow citizens if the that thee trapped by a machine and that machine mis- governs t must govo badly that people die. children graduate without being able to read or write. crime is rampant. homelessness existed across the whole state. california literally is a state where the citizens are owned by the unions and the government. and is doing steadily worse job based on left wing ideologies that simply don't work.
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mark: you note newt gingrich this is not about politicizing this is about analyzing what is going on and trying to address it and hold people and institutions to account. you've got one party rule. you got the hard-core left wing no growth you've got the run of the place super majority in both houses of the legislature. people are dying. homes are being destroyed. lives are being turned upside down. all this issues you raise plus the minimum wage, destroying, this is a a left wing and nirvana. look at the consequences for the people there. i think your point is, as a society we need to keep holding people, institutions and ideology accountable. >> is started for me on the other coast the place where it nancy pelosi was born, baltimore. baltimore city schools have three high schools, 2300 students in which not a single
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can pass the math test. it hit meet one me when david t this for years. hit me one day that we americans owe it to rescue those kids. similarly, we americans may have to rescue californians from california government. around 1904 this shame of the cities was published the beginning of a muckraking. it is so shocked americans they have had in a entire decade ever form. we may be back in the same business. we need to have congressional hearings have federal government under trump looking at this. lead to expose how many memos there were warning about this. how many decisions were made that now it loo look stupid, destructive in our cost in lives as well as -- i saw over 40 square miles of los angeles is burning. when you look at the nighttime pictures you can see the fires from space.
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there is something profoundly wrong which was once our greatest estate has been driven into the ground by a combination of left wing ideology unions and government bureaucrats. mark: you look at joe biden who facilitates this he works with the epa to give newsom whatever he wants. which are no growth attacks on the society. they want to destroy the combustion while and the automobile. they are destroying the ability of trucks to provide supplies, bring them to california or take them out of the two biggest ports that we have in our country. they went to push everybody towards electricity when the electric grid cannot possibly handle i what they are proposin. this is an ideology that has no reality. it's like a religion.
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a little bit of despotism here and there, mark said sometimes you've got to do it. and by the late notice they don't take any responsibility. all ready mr. marks is himself bernie sanders is at the same climate change, climate change like that is some kind of it actually means something. >> these people live an alternative universe. turns out in the real word or alternative universe does not work a it has real human consequences. i think we have to go right at this and insist on finding the truth. insist on publicizing it and frankly we ought to be busily engaged in trying to build a reform movement that's nonpartisan. anyone willing to fight for change ought to be part of our reform movement. >> we come back newt gingrich as a former speaker very successful speaker pushing a conservative agenda and pushing bill clinton towards things he did not want to do as well. viewer -- if you are speaker
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>> so much devastation in southern california. 40000 acres and all had been scorched, 16 people confirmed dead. the fire conditions have calmed somewhat but more wins on the way, extreme fire weather could be possible for next week. back to you. >> max gorden in malibu. we will have an update on the "fox report" in just about 25 minutes from now. import the latest headlines log on to foxnews.com. i am jon scott in new york. i am jon scott and now back to "life, liberty & levin." ♪. mark: will come back america but with a very, very important i called the save america janet was start to the house of
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representatives. you know, the speaker has a couple vote majority. with that 1001 egos and so forth. so you're basically herding the squirrels but herding them and a direction they need to be herded in we need to unite, and when these issues. any thoughts or recommendations given your own experience a speaker? >> first of all i want to say a mike johnson has the patience of job. i could never do the job he is doing too have the greatest admiration for him. but a break it into two different components there are 37 democrats who are either elected in a district that trump carried or the other elected in districts trump got within 5%. those 37 districts should be forced to choose between survival back home and what i hope will be one big beautiful bill to quote truck. we need to get tax cuts, affordability, take-home pay growth in jobs in a one built we
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can add to the border and other things. that bill has to be through and signed into law either by memorial day which is johnson's goal or by the fourth of july at which i would accept but no later than the fourth of july. that is the key to the 2026 election paid to do that you've got to do two things. you have to convince the republicans that on this one votes they have to be on the same team. that there is no excuse for betraying their party and their country by finding some excuse by not when. second president trump and jd vance have to go out and have a rallies morales at all 37 democc districts. we want you to vote yes. when reagan did it we got 46 votes in the house from the democrats to pass the tax cuts for the democrats thought they could beat us. when we pass a welfare reform we
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have 101 votes against 101 no. split them evenly. the key is you have to have a campaign back home for democrats to govern from washington to the country. conservatives govern from the grassroots to washington. this is going to be a basic grassroots campaign. i think it has to be one bill and i think that bill probably has to come up in early may. we have have the president commit to and half months of barnstorming parade that is what he does best it's his version of it reagan oval office address. and let me tell you that paul hpaul had asimple rule in the yh us now, are we replace you in november. he would say i'm happy either way. going to be with me i'll take it about if you don't want to be with me i will beat you in november. this will be a very popular bill if it is explained over and over by the president. the country will rally and will organize. my prediction is you a 15 -- 20
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different votes do not point it democratic votes negotiating with the democratic leadership. that is stupid. they have no reason to help you. you can get democratic votes and by arousing the american people. mark: we can't rouse the american people nobody's better at it than donald trump and for good reasons. we have other platforms now we did not even have when he was president of the united states. the ubiquity of talk radio and platforms like that. >> and candidly, mark, shows like yours. you reach people who pay attentpay attention.i know beca. you reach people to pay attention this will be one of the venues that the president uses to reach out to the whole country. i agree with you. we have so many different ways to reach people for two and half months as you get there every single one of those venues and rally everyone who helped to win the election has to now come back and help them win this one
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big boat. mark: it's a pro- american agenda. our opponents do not embrace america's principles, america's values. their talk about destroying the electoral college again. they are a destructive force they build nothing, they developed nothing, they destroy, destroy they redistribute that's their ideology by that is what they do. i take from what you are saying is the campaign is one thing. now it isn't governing and we the people have an opportunity to literally participate in a representative government which we have not had in forever, correct? >> lexus is a rare moment. lincoln once said with a popular sentiment anything is possible but without popular sentiment nothing as possible. if you go back and read reagan's farewell address he said i did not win these legislative victories view, the american people, one them by your phone calls. that has through the truck model. mark: great advice i think.
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mark: welcome back america. as here with our great friend david schoen. want to talk about the department of justice, jack smith and their last effort to really abuse the rule of law for political purposes. this is very, very serious. give a case in florida, you have a judge cannon who is a fantastic judge and so course she is ridiculed by that usual low iq oil lawyers. and she has already ruled jack smith appointment is unconstitutional. they have appealed it. and yet in her courtroom there is jack smith excuse me, you don't have any authority in my courtroom for their he is he's trying to file a report they are
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rushing the authority of the attorney general of the united states. and probably other reprobates of the department of justice. where they are going to give their opinions how guilty donald trump is about the documents case when they are still codefendants. where do you make not just as a legal matter of that kind of a ploy, but what do you make of a mentality of a department of justice that continues to think this way? >> that easy politicalization of weaponization of the justice department that we have spoken about but jack smith has no standing whatsoever in this case anymore. when the ironies is she found the was unconstitutional under the appointments clause in the appropriation clause in article one section nine and now they're spending money for him to appear our money to appear again in a case in which he has no standing. you're one 100% rate. look, he wants to issue this report under section 600.8c of the special counsel regulations.
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he does not exist based on her order. special counsel regulations would never be triggered. under the section it's only supposed be issued after the conclusion of the matter. that matter is not concluded. their response and that u.s. court of appeals of the 11th circuit is on second thought, we won't publicly expose the report on the florida case. we will about the d.c. case and showed the florida case report to certain senators and congressmen. we know where that is going to end up. this reminds me of jack smith's move and the d.c. after the case and the obstruction charges should have been thrown out pretty came and superseding indictment. it was not supposed to include any official accident so he engages in the speaking narrative to try to pollute the public with terrible things about donald trump that he made up is never been tested in any kind of cross examination and he puts it out there. that's what he wants to do again.
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they insist on a gag order for president trump in each of these cases. >> meet and see if i can take your i am which is this this should not pass without a response. in other words, when you have an attorney and remind you jack smith is conducting himself in such an unethical way we only see the surface level for their other things going on behind the scenes. what is the attorney general comic deputy attorney general,'s top staff guy who pushed for the swat team to go into mar-a-lago. he quit because my view my assumption is he did not want the office of professional responsibility taking a look at him. so he quits. i don't think these guys what they have done to the country with a dig at the election process what they've done to the legal system the precedent they have that should not just pass without a full investigation by the new department of justice. let the chips fall where they may. gather all of the memoranda. gather the tests, gather the
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e-mails and then issue a real report and if necessary take the steps of the local bar where it's necessary take legal action, when you think? >> think you're absolute right but let's be clear what you are talking about. all of these folks say payback for sound ask for full investigation for that's what the american people deserve. if they have not destroyed the records you're going to season very interesting things about the coordination with the prosecution in atlanta and so on and so forth. and remember, like the molars seen the smith team is handpicked with the trump haters. who i have a sanctions motion going against in d.c. for lying to a federal judge to get communication act order along other prosecutors on that team. none of this is coincidental. mark: the irony would be, david schoen david schoen they destroyed records and perhaps the espionage act depending upon they destroyed it with that be
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♪ ♪. mark: welcome back america. you know for the democrats seem to be very concerned about the nomination of kash patel to take over the fbi. he is more than qualified. he is more qualified to be the director of the fbi did robert kennedy was to be the attorney general of united states under his brother jon kennedy that is for sure. they're raising questions about pam bondi who was a wonderful nominee she was the attorney general of florida and so forth and so on. what do you want to tell the republicans in the senate about
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her and about him in terms of getting behind them, supporting them and getting them into the slots? also they have to remember above all else is that elections have consequences. this is the president who is chosen he ha has the prerogativf choosing people the key positions in his cabinet and to run this government. he has made his selections these people are going to get past they will be confirmed by think the republicans should not be a partisan issue frankly. every inch of the interest a good in the country back running again. pam bondi's not going to be disqualified from being attorney general of the united states. she has proven yourselves the attorney general of florida and otherwise kash patel's the president's choice for this position. he spoke about his qualifications working on issues republican senators to get behind the president push this through the democratic senators also ought to do it.
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it's not whether it's first and choice. i fit advice and consent and they have to ge give consent in these cases. mark: let's talk about the fbi for a moment. what is that they seek to protect? there are series of problems with the fbi not only the politicization of the most senior level but the idea we have di has infested the operation. the fact the fbi has missed quite frankly terrible events don't we need the fbi to be reformed? do we need the fbi to get back to at the fbi used to do don't need someone in charge of the organization that's not part of the organization or part of the whole genre and to go i in and x things? looks that's right this is a bit of a personal issue for me my father was an fbi agent i have e always papers his induction and release patient papers. i've always been a huge fan of the fbi. mark: me too. >> have never seen fbi like this before politics is affected from
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head to toe. there are wonderful special agents out there still who very much resent the way the direction the agency has gone. i need to be cleaned up without any question. and frankly has to focus on its job there's a lot of serious threats out there right now we cannot keep playing politics and awoken us and that type of thing within this agency. mark: and also, david schoen, what would you consider to be a few party to the department of justice? i really cannot tell the properties were other than to get drunk. it's a big department but therewith thisantitrust, civil . marshals all under the tutelage of the department of justice appeared on their priority semi- consider pursuing?
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their existential threats out there even way back when my father worked on on counterespionage tasks. those are vitally important. we have so much now to the internet. formulas for maste master is an impasse with the internet. a lot of very dangerous things. has to be a real focus and sophistication on the technological mechanism used to commit crimes these days. mark: i agree that it's a great point we have the islamists, the communist chinese the others infiltrating our processes. infiltrate our government, infiltrating our society. the fbi spent way too much resources chasing little old ladies and abortion clinics parents and school board at schd meetings. and of course donald trump. david schoen went to figure throughout all of this your gr here's to getting better with age.
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♪ welcome back america. i used to say this green new, am deal on climate change was aall scam. green alright, green money to line the pockets of all of these left wing reprobates. his snout more than that it's deadly. where did all of that money go? the so-called inflation reduction acts, another lie that what is the pockets of thell left-wing groups there cause and so forth. trillions and trillions of dollars, what did they do for the environment? what ir t do for the security people in california andcali anywhere in this country? joe biden needs to be held to account. he is responsible for that. i will see you tomorrow night. ♪ cooks there still active buyers burning within the palisades area make it
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