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will host the baltimore ravens in next week's round. ravens look great. eagles moving on after beating the packers who were never in the game. what do you do when you are not in the game? make the most of it. bring a book to the sidelines, youngsters. read, get your homework done when you are not in the game. a.j. brown taking out a motivational book. the book was, after the book was -- inner excellence by jim murphy. they had that game in hand, why not read? >> ainsley: good for him. >> lawrence: why not read? >> ainsley: it was a book about how to be better. >> brian: a.g. brown stays within himself. >> bill: good morning on a monday, fox news alert now on the fight to try to save l.a. again. crews are making progress
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against some of the fires over the weekend. the wind threat is growing starting today into tomorrow and that could cause yet major setbacks yet again. hope the weekend was great. i'm bill hemmer. monday morning in new york. here we go to you. >> dana: good to be back with you and you and all of you. i'm dana perino and this is "america's newsroom." the story is not over. we're still in the middle of it. here is where things stand on day six. 24 people confirmed dead. 12,000 homes and businesses are gone. and the fires have burned more than 40,000 acres. more than 60 square miles. bigger than the french capital of paris. >> bill: gavin newsom deployed 1,000 additional national guard members. he and karen bass facing scrutiny. the mayor holds a news conference later this morning and we'll carry it live. the governor is calling for an independent investigation why some of the fire hydrants, perhaps many of them, lost water
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pressure in the middle of the blaze. >> i want all of us want to know those answers. i don't want to wait. people are asking me. i want to know those facts. i want to objectively determine them and the chips fall where they may. this is not about finger pointing. >> dana: fema administrator joins us in a moment. jonathan hunt is in pacific palisades. how does it look this morning, jonathan? >> dana and bill, good morning to both of you. we're in, as you mentioned, day six of this ongoing tragedy and we're in really now the calm before the next windstorm. winds -- we're in a red flag warning right now. we moved back in just around this time tomorrow into what the national weather service calls a particularly dangerous situation. pds. that was the situation last tuesday morning when the flames ripped through here in the palisades wreaking this kind of
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damage across such a huge swath of what was an idyllic part of los angeles. there are so many questions, of course. people want to know rightly why there wasn't water in some of the fire hydrants? they want to know why there was a nearby reservoir that was empty? those questions will eventually be answered, we assume. now it's a question for so many people of literally picking up the pieces of their lives. i want to talk to you about one person. individual cases often more meaningful in these situations when so many hundreds have lost so much. i got contacted by the family of a 99-year-old grandmother and asked me if i could check on their granny's house. i couldn't get there myself. i didn't have time. griff jenkins, our friend and colleague was able to get to their property over the weekend and this is the video that i then had to send them to tell
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this 99-year-old grandmother the home in which she had lived for decades had burned to the ground. they've asked us not to use their names at the moment. granny frankly is so heartbroken what she has seen. they don't want her further overwhelmed by messages and texts. that is just one story among hundreds. you look at this home. street after street after street, block after block after block. the same story throughout the palisades. it really is just a tragic situation. so many people also, bill and dana, want to get back in here and want to start picking up the pieces. they can't. a lot of what is laying on the ground here is now toxic. that's the problem. there is all sorts of other dangers, looters people are trying to keep out as well. officials are cracking down on those. l.a. d.a. will hold a news conference this afternoon about exactly that and the arrests of some looters who came here to the palisades to try to prey on
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the misfortune of so many. there are many, many dangers. i will pick up a cable here. i don't want brian as he goes backwards to get caught. there you go, brian. there are so many dangers and so much tragedy and we don't want more tragedy upon tragedy and that's the great fear now. 4:00 a.m. tomorrow we move into that pds situation. particularly dangerous situation as the national weather service calls it when the winds pick up again. we're not out of the woods by any means yet right across the l.a. area. we're facing another very dangerous week, bill and dana. >> dana: jonathan hunt, thank you so much. we'll be with you through the day. appreciate that. >> bill: thousands of thousands. east of jonathan's location our next guest is a resident of altadena, california. he lost everything. his mother and uncle had their homes burned to the ground.
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robert, can you help our audience understand where you find yourself now just about a week later. >> i still find myself lost mentally, this is so much to attempt to process. i mean, we have everything, it's all gone. now trying to deal with the whole insurance part of it. i mean, we have no knowledge about any of this stuff. we are still trying to digest the trauma and trying to deal with insurance and assistance and this is just devastating. we're still lost. i haven't been able to sleep. >> dana: we can see it in your face and hear it in your voice, robert. if there is something that you
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can pinpoint that you could use from the federal government or your state or local government right now, what would be your highest priority in terms of asking for them to do something, for you in particular or people like you who are dealing with very similar circumstances? >> i think this is -- i mean, this is not just for me, this is for our whole community in altadena. i feel like there are so many things that have no answers to them. we're just destroyed and we have to make so many decisions, insurance decisions. we don't -- i personally just don't have the knowledge of any of these legal parts of all of it and we still -- like we are all -- we don't have answers to where will we be staying for all of this? what is going to happen? will we ever be able to come back to our community?
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everybody is so confused and lost. we have not been able to process this. it is a trauma and we are all lost. >> bill: you sound like you are in shock, robert. we appreciate your time. thank you for sharing your story with us. i imagine you have not felt the importance of your own family more than you do now because based on what i read from your story, they are all you have. >> they are all i have. this has really, really made us see life in a completely different way. we are a very united family and specifically now it makes you see that at the end of it all, all we have is the memories that we've created as a family because the material stuff is gone. i was there and it was just gone.
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now all we have is the memories we created in these places. the memories we've created in the community. i grew up there. that's my childhood community, playing baseball in little league, altadena little league, soccer at the park. this is where i have done everything and it's gone. it's just taken from us. >> dana: robert, i have been wondering -- can i ask what kind of work did you do? and what happens now with that? that's also, i'm sure the shock you are going through, immediate needs and then there is how do we either work with our employers or i don't know if you were self-employed. how does that work for you now? >> i'm self-employed. i did construction. and, you know, the work i had in line was there. so i have no job right now. and no equipment, nothing.
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everything is gone. and now i just don't know where -- where to go with this. >> bill: robert, your mother is a diabetic. second child disabled and it's obvious from the sound of your voice you are in need of everything. we're sending you our best. we wish we could wave a wand and make this all go away. but unfortunately you are in the middle of a very stark reality. we're sending you our best. hang tough, okay? robert, thank you for coming on. our best to your family. >> thank you so much. god bless. >> dana: thank you. the administrator of fema, good to have you with us today. i know you've heard probably a lot of those stories and you hear it in their voices. what can you do from the federal government perspective to reassure these people that one, you have them in mind and two, help, is it actually on the way? >> i was there thursday and
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friday and got to assess the impact. it is truly catastrophic. my heart goes out to everybody that has been impacted. i have heard these stories time and again about the soul of these communities that now will have to rebuild. i listened to the story from the gentleman that was just on and one of the changes that we did make in our program last year is that for things like he lost for his self-employed business, we can now cover under our individual assistance program and replace and financially reimburse him for some of those tools. that's one of the many resources that are now available for individuals once they register for assistance at disaster assistance.gov. 24,000 people have already registered. >> bill: mere is jd vance. there is heat coming down on the government for helping these folks out. this is what he said on sunday with shannon bream. >> i do think the federal government has to do a better job. president trump is committed to doing a better job with disaster
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relief. true for the hurricane victims and flood victims in north carolina and true for the fire victims in california. we need competent, good governance. >> bill: two massive stories within a couple of months. what would you say to the incoming vice president? >> that fema is committed to helping everybody. we're very grateful for the bipartisan support of the supplemental which gave us the funding we need to continue to support everybody that's been impacted, right? the people of california that have now lost everything, to the people from florida, georgia, north carolina, south carolina impacted by hurricanes helene and milton to the 179 different disaster declarations we did last year alone. we need this bipartisan support to continue to support all of those families who have had so much trauma in their lives. >> dana: do you ever work -- i know local governments are the first line of defense for any disaster. but do you weigh in beforehand?
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for example, with the reservoirs not being filled. that is something that you would imagine that fema would want to know ahead of time. was that something you were aware of? >> so we have regional offices. ten regions. the administrators work closely with state and work on response plans. that level of detail is not something that would make it up to fema. what we want to do is understand what resources they have, where their resources are short and when something does happen we can make sure we're bringing in the right federal resources to assist them in their spoons. >> bill: back to robert's story there. it's times -- is it times 10,000? could it go higher than that? for folks who are watching, what can you do for robert and his family? >> i think the first thing is again we understand, we hear you and unfortunately we have had to
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deal with too many of these tragedies. we want to be able to make sure they are getting into our process and into our system so we can insure they are getting everything they're eligible for. our programs are designed to help jump start the recovery. for what we can't cover we want to connect them with the small business administration to provide low interest loans to either rebuild their home or help with their business. connect with nonprofits and philanthropy. we have to have all these resources come together. as you have been reporting the insurance industry has been limited in these areas. so we know there will be a lot of uninsured costs. we're pulling everybody together. the whole society to help each family with their journey. >> bill: so many different cross winds, too. trying to keep them straight as we go. >> dana: thank you. >> bill: thank you for your time. we'll speak later in the week. we mentioned jd vance, here he is again. >> president biden has left us a
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dumpster fire. we're excited to get to work. >> bill: that work begins a week from today. jd vance speaking out in his first post election tv interviewed. what he revealed about day one and the incoming administration's agenda with president-elect trump. plus this. >> my conclusion was that the things that was best for the bureau was to try to do this in an orderly way, to not thrust the f.b.i. deeper into the fray. >> dana: christopher wray explaining his decision to resign and defended the government's raid on mar-a-lago. >> bill: we're hearing from melania trump. what she says will be different this second time around with her stint as first lady in the white house. >> i think it will be an exciting four years. we have a lot to do and put our country back in shape.
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>> dana: president-elect trump vowed to reestablish america's dominance on the world stage and world leaders have come flocking to mar-a-lago to lobby for a better relationship. this weekend the premier of alberta, canada. fox businesses edward lawrence is live at the white house with more. >> president joe biden may be seeing his foreign policy legacy slip away. he will talk about that at the state department today. we'll be listening for what the president is not going to say. he is likely going to talk about his support for israel. he will not say that he held back some weapons from the israelis. the president calling for a cease-fire talking about russian sanctions finally designed to go
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after russian oil sales. he won't mention the invasion happened on his watch. >> president biden: as i said, he has his own problems economically, significant problems economically, as well as politically at home. and so i decided to do everything i possibly could within my power and authority to give ukraine every advantage it could have to be able to sustain support for an independent ukraine. >> one post on truth social last month president-elect trump changed the relationship with china now which is coming to the table to help on border issues, some national security experts not helpful about president biden's speech today. >> oh my gosh, it will be all magical thinking. he will say the world is a safer place, that ukraine is thriving. he will take credit probably for israel's achievements even though president biden was the one who told israel don't do this and that. israel did it and had great success against iran's proxies.
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>> denmark sent a message to the president-elect about adding more security there. the president-elect trump also reportedly possibly looking at meetings with russian president vice president and kim jong unfrom north korea. >> bill: president-elect trump's cabinet nominees are getting ready for confirmation hearings. we'll be watching together with you at home. for others it might be smooth sailing. alexis mcadams live in west palm beach, florida, before she starts to make her trip back up north. good morning there. hello. >> hi, i hope a get a tan to new york and go to d.c. a busy weekend in palm beach, florida. trump had a lot of meetings doing everything they can to try to secure his agenda. we know being on the trail with him trump says his top priority is the border. watch. >> for the past four years we
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have been wide open. you will see, i think, dozens of executive orders coming from the trump administration rick coming from us on day one that send a message to customs and border patrol, you guys are allowed to do your job again. >> throughout the weekend trump holding meeting after meeting over at mar-a-lago and it wasn't just with republicans. the president-elect said he had a fascinating conversation with pennsylvania senator john fetterman talking about the border, u.s. steel and support for israel. trump telling "the washington examiner" that fetterman is a common sense person, which is beautiful. this comes as trump's nominees begin their confirmation process. tuesday doug collins, pete hegseth and dougburg um. we learn the director of national intelligence pick tulsi gabbard now supports foia.
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as for rfk junior he is not anti-vax, he wants it to be science-based. health and human services talking about that with the west virginia senator. >> i think he wants a healthy country. he wants healthier food, a health system that works for people that need it and that want it and so i came away from that meeting really very positively impressed but at the same time he will be in front of committee and these tough questions will be asked. >> tough questions will be coming but trump's team says their picks are ready, bill. >> bill: thank you. watching it from here. thanks. >> dana reads sports. >> dana: a big wild card weekend for football. here we go. the buffalo bills with a commanding win over the denver broncos 31-seven. bills quarterback allen overpowering denver's defense. houston texans knocked out the los angeles chargers and dominating fashion.
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32-12. houston's defense with four interceptions on chargers' quarterback. that's not a good one, right, bill? the baltimore ravens ran over the steelers running back henry in the 28 to 14 win. the eagles knocked out the green bay packers 22-ten. j.j. and jacob quinn by hardest hit. four green bay turnovers. the washington commanders with a game-winning field goal against tampa bay buccaneers. we went there. it with as a 23-20 win. >> bill: our covid super bowl. >> dana: never forget. >> bill: you had such a great time. >> dana: yeah. >> bill: the game winner, okay, bam. >> dana: oh. >> bill: and you advance. it was a great day of football yesterday. >> dana: j.j. and quinn by were
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tuesday night especially they expect winds to pick up in a significant way. two fires still burn. 33% contained for one. on the pacific ocean the pal is sates fire, so much devastation, only 14% contained if the winds pick up to 50, 60, 70 miles-per-hour it can take the embers and blow them and cause further damage. think about this now on the pacific, pch leads to malibu. this is what has burned in orange, gone. all those pictures you see, all the aerial images you see of ash and dirt, that is in the orange area here. the red area is a mandatory evacuation and yellow area in pacific palisades is a warning that they may have to get out, too. california's leaders facing a lot of heat over failures in local response to the fires. the road to recovery will be
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huge. the road will be long and winding. senator bill hagerty from tennessee said this. >> at this point we still don't know the full extent of the damage and may not know for some time. what we can see is the failure of policy there and the failure of leadership in california that has been egregious. it is pathetic what has happened there. we have to have real accountability. hearings to understand and get to the bottom of what has taken place, what the failures have been. those failures. >> bill: colleagues fox news contributor steve hilton lives in california and today lay out a plan to speed the recovery and rebuilding. before i ask you specifically about that, the governor gavin newsom was asked about the response and said this. >> governor of the largest state in the country and what happens in l.a. isn't always going to come across your desk but you are ultimately responsible as the governor of california. >> i want to know the answers i have that question. i can't tell what happened.
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my own team is saying what happened. i want to get the answers. i want to get straight answers. >> bill: steve, give us some answers. how did everything go so terribly wrong? >> bill, you heard another example of the vacuum of leadership in california and los angeles. people are fearful and the level of rage is something i've never seen before. in putting together the plan i'll lay out later this morning i have been speaking to a lot of people what went wrong. so many questions are emerging. let's just take that massive issue of running out of water. people are saying how could that happen? i've been talking to sources within the department of water and power and there are real questions about that emptying of the reservoir and the contracting process that led to that taking so long and costing so much. i've been talking to retired fire chiefs about the lack of communication when they knew that the reservoir was empty and
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wouldn't be enough water. the fire department wasn't told about that. if they had been told about that they could have requested water tenders to provide the water that firefighters need. i asked my source how long would it take to get the kind of number of water tenders you need for this situation in southern california? maybe a couple of hours. that's the terrible thing. so much of this, the scale of this devastation could and should have been avoided. >> bill: i don't know how you start construction work on that reservoir last february and you know the season is coming and it is not repaired. "new york times." the mayor is taking a lot of heat. before taking office she said she wouldn't go abroad. the reason why it's relevant, when she ran for mayor she was on the house foreign affairs commission and said the issues in africa are important to her but put her focus on los angeles. you are putting your focus on a recovery and rebuild effort. tell me about that.
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how does it begin? >> we'll be laying out a plan later this morning here in los angeles called rescue, reform, rebuild. how do we help people right now, how do we make the changes to our systems and policies and processes to stop anything of this kind happening again, and how do we rebuild rapidly? we aren't getting the level of energy and ambition from gavin newsom. again i will give you an example about the short term. so i was speaking to governor pete wilson over the weekend and getting his advice about what we should be doing. his response to the north ridge earthquake in 1994 included sweeping away contracting rules and giving contracts to clear away the debris and get things built quickly. the santa monica ca freeway was rebuilt in 66 days. gavin newsom this weekend said that rebuilding here could start maybe in a year. so we have a plan to get that going quicker. we have a plan to help people in the short term. i've got pastor jack gibbs.
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one of the leading pastors in california. he is challenging the faith communities to support firefighters and displaced families and looking to the long term. we are know california. the technology capital of the world. why are we still trying to fight fires in this old-fashioned way? i've got a leading silicon valley investor to bring together a team to create fire force using the best technology, ai, drones, autonomous firefighting vehicles to detect fires as soon as the spark happens and extinguish them if they're potentially dangerous. all of this could have been done before. it should be being done now. that's why people are so angry. they do not see the level of leadership and ambition that we need to make sure nothing of this scale ever happens again. >> bill: lead the way, steve. sounds like you are going on offense. what time is your press conference today? >> it is 11:00 a.m. pacific time
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and a whole team of business leaders, faith leaders, fire experts. we will lay out how we can do much better in the future. >> bill: do it. we'll watch. good luck. >> dana: that sounds amazing and this. join fox news support of families impacted by the wildfires. it enables the red cross to respond to help people recover from this disaster with your donation. scan the qr code on the screen and support these effort and money goes to a good cause obviously. >> the rubber hits the road this week with all of these hearings on the cabinet and then when president trump takes office next monday, there is going to be shock and awe with executive orders, a blizzard of executive orders on the economy as well as on the border. >> dana: away we go. republican senator predicting trump will waste no time enacting his agenda. can he turn those plans into reality? kayleigh mcenany on that next. president biden leaving office on a reflective note saying he
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>> my job is to make sure they get across the finish line, get on the job and president trump deserves a team. >> we need pam bondi as the attorney general so we can stop the d.o.j. from weaponizing their power. we need scott bessette at the treasury to stop this conversation around the global taxation and minimum tax. >> he has selected people who
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are willing to not move as business as usual but yet are ready for action. >> dana: former trump attorney michael cohen begging president biden to pardon him before he leaves office. he says he deserves a pardon like the one biden gave list son hunter claiming biden has an obligation to protect him and other critics from president-elect trump and his efforts to reach out to the biden administration. that's curious. >> bill: uh-huh, it is. >> dana: an l.a. based humanitarian organization is on the ground near the burn zone to help the community. i thought it was strange. what am i reading here? i'm looking at myself and kaylee talking about the wildfires that we'll get back to in a moment. let's take a second to talk about a week from today is the inauguration of president-elect trump. they are planning a little shock and awe, which i think is
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probably an apt term. how do you see their planning in order to overwhelm everybody with their preparedness? >> i think the motto is go big or go home this time. trump has had four years to think about this and given it a lot of thought in pure numbers. they've indicated 100 executive actions. biden holds the record for the most executive orders on day one. he had 15 and then he had two executive actions. almost every predecessor had one on the first day. trump wants to not just double but triple and quadruple and beyond with 100 executive orders. the consent is what i'm interested in. five executive orders on immigration. he said expect way more than that. the content will be as interesting as -- >> pete hegseth at 9:30 confirmation tomorrow. jd vance interesting with shannon.
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he this is the biden folks have left them a mess and made the point this way. watch. >> president biden has left us an absolute dumpster fire. we're excited to get to work but need to be open and honest about the fact that president biden has not left the next administration in a good place. open southern border. bond yields went from 4.1 to 4.8 percent in a month. president biden has been running the largest peacetime deficits in the history of this country. >> bill: what is phenomenal how different the country and world is now than it was in january of 2017. >> it is incredible. foreign policy, two new wars on your watch with israel, which could wind down at some point. a huge accomplishment if it does. same with ukraine. afghanistan, so much has happened but jd vance one thing i was struck by the interview. such a good messenger for this administration. he talked about compassion and looking at people with compassion, the soft undertone to the policies they'll put
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forward. talked about the january 6th pardons and the way they will methodically work through that. he is a very thoughtful and i think will be a very effective vice president. putting a real soft face on what will be some hard policies, deportations and the like. >> dana: still president joe biden thinks he would have won. >> bill: or she. >> dana: we'll get to that. watch here. >> president biden: i think i would have beaten trump, could have beaten trump and i think kamala could have beaten and would have beaten trump . i did want want a party to lose -- >> dana: i don't understand his decision to constantly plow over old ground that doesn't get him anywhere to a place where he would like to repair his legacy. >> he is very stubborn. that's clear. you look at the real clear politics average of biden/trump
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match-up. you had trump beating beaten by 3.1%. it is not simply true he could have beat trump. of course that's all hypothetiche real clear politics average dismisses that. if you go back to that "wall street journal" report about biden faltering in his final days. one of the big takeaways was pollsters were kept away from him. democrats who met with him were alarmed his concept of the polls versus reality. his staff did him a disservice. he was in a cocoon and not getting accurate information. >> bill: his comment. he could win and she could win. it's over. we move on. see you at noon on "outnumbered." law enforcement in california have their hands full. stern warning against looters trying to take advantage of the devastation. l.a. county's new d.a. nathan hockman will join us in a moment on that and more.
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week. our teams are right now plugging in with partner organizations on the ground assisting with shelters and feeding operations. we do have our volunteers who we call gray shirts helping to staff the emergency operations centers as well. we're standing by for the next phase of this disaster. >> dana: what is the next phase? >> i think some of that remains to be seen to be honest with you. this is such a high toxic event. what do i mean by that? tens of thousands of structures that have burned to the ground. everything within those structures have been burned down into that ash. we're talking about asbestos, lead paint. interesting to see how state and federal authorities afroech cleanup because of that toxicity. we have a lot of experience in that. obviously we're standing by to support in any capacity we can. i think the more important thing is mitigating against the next
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wildfires. in the next 24 hours with the santa ana wins or fires happening throughout the hot dry summer months. >> dana: i wanted to ask you about this. the gray shirts, the volunteers. they don't just show up after a disaster. you work all year long to try to help mitigate and prevent what could happen in fire-prone areas. what do you think will happen in los angeles that could have? >> you know, in 2024 alone we ran 45 different wildfire mitigation operations. we're plugging into these communities before, during and after disasters. but there is so much work to be done. i think this needs to be a national call to action. they estimate this disaster may cost as much as $250 billion when this is all said and done. for 25 million a year team rubicon could most likely mobilize our volunteer leaders used throughout california to organize communities and do the
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necessary but really hard manual work at this urban wild land interface to build out defensible space and eliminate fuel sources to help prevent or at least mitigate the cost of the next palisades and eaton fire. >> dana: we have 30 seconds. what is the most needed item? cash, supplies, people, volunteers? what do you need the most? >> i think this is a really complex and fluid disaster. cash tends to be king. we don't know how these needs will play out. sheltering obviously is big, food is big. but we have to replace a lot of material possession, have to relocate these children into new school districts and we'll need flexibility. >> dana: we talked to a guy last hour that lost everything including as a small business owner in construction lost all the tools. rebuilding to be done but needs to b
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