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[ ♪ ♪ ] >> fire and weather officials are now warning of extreme fire danger in los angeles county. the national weather service has issued its most severe red flag warning through wednesday afternoon. they're urging residents to avoid any and all actions that could cause a spark. wind gusts up to 70 miles per hour are threatening to undo any progress containing the area's three ongoing fires. california's liberal leaders are facing ruthless scrutiny over the state's preparedness for a wildfire outbreak of this magnitude. hello, everyone, this "outnumbered." i'm kayleigh mcenany. i'm here with my cohost, rachel campos-duffy and jaso host of ""

and jason chaffetz warnings to stay out of the area. >> i want to talk about the arrests for the l.a. county sheriff's area. overnight, we had several other arrests. it brings it up to a total of 34 in our geographic area. we have 30 in the eaton fire area. and we have four in the palisades area. last night, specifically, again for l.a. county sheriff's jurisdiction, we arrested 4. 2 for curfew violations. 2 were arrested for one drone incident. not all of them are for burglary or looting or for curfew violations. but it is very important when i say "stay out," we are argue people who are not supposed to be there who do not live there who are in possession of narcotics.

we've arrested several with guns. >> let's go to jonathan hunt. he is live in the pacific palisades with more from the ground. jonathan. >> hey, kayeigh. kayleigh, we are in the calm in the wind storm in the pacific palisades, and the entire region is under a red flag region, and what the national forest service calls a particularly dangerous situation starts in the early morning hours of tuesday morning and those are the same warnings we were under last tuesday and we know all too well what kind of damage the flames that were fanned by those winds caused, as you look around in the pacific palisades, there is pretty much nothing to see but this kind of heartbreaking destruction right across a huge swath of what was very much an idyllic neighborhood here in l.a. hundreds of people have lost so much, kayleigh, but it is often

the individual stories that touch you the most. at the end of last week, friday, a woman reached out and said my 99-year-old grandmother lives in the palisades. we got her out. we know nothing about her home. any chance you can check on it. i couldn't make it there, but my friend and colleague griff jenkins shot this video, and he gave it to me and i had the grim task of going to that 99-year-old grandmother and showing them her house was completely and utterly destroyed. the poor woman, the family asked us not to name her because they don't want her overwhelmed with texts and messages. but she had lived in the palisades in that house since 1967 is when she bought it. extraordinary to think of the amount of memories she had there and the amount of loss she is going through, and that is, of course, a story that is repeated over and over again across the palisades.

as you look down the street, there is really nothing left, kayleigh, and then there are a couple of houses here and there, you find, that don't have any damage at all. and that is what the looters are now targeting. as brian pans to the left here, and through the tree there, and you can see one of those homes that is undamaged. obviously people fled that home as fast as they could. they left all of their possessions there. that is the kind of home that these evil looters are now targeting. trying to get in under any pretense they can to this neighborhood. get through the police roadblocks, the national guard roadblocks and come in and take from those people. i think a lot of people in l.a. will have been very happy to hear the words of sheriff luna, and indeed, the d.a. nathan hochman who said we will find you and arrest you and punish you to the full extent of the law. for so many people in the palisades, in malibu, just to the south of me and altadena

which was the site of a terrible firestorm, too, thousands of people are going to have a very long road ahead of them, kayleigh. it's hard to see, and i know the palisades very well. my daughter goes to school here as a lot of our viewers know. it's hard to see how this comes back -- certainly not in months. probably it's going to take years. the high school, by the way, that my daughter goes to is already looking for -- they sent out an urgent notice to everybody yesterday asking for anybody who has any idea of a temporary premise -- obviously well outside of the palisades -- that they could set up school in because at the moment, they're back to remote learning. and they -- if they are asking to completely relocate that school, clearly they don't believe they're going to be open, i would imagine, for this semester. so we have a lot of kids -- 3,000 kids at palisades charter high school who look like they're back to remote learning for quite some time. just another trauma on top of all of the other trauma.

kayleigh. >> kayleigh: such devastation, and you said she moved there in 1967. and that's almost six decades in that area. just devastating. jonathan, keep us updated. >> sure. >> kayleigh: jason, i want to play a sound bite, and gavin newsom is on the ground and trying to manage this with local leaders and he keeps going back to a word that many democrats use in times of crisis. watch this. >> the other thing is, look, you know, i think you will get a bad rap, and i know you're getting a bad rap about the fire hydrants don't have enough water in them. give me a break. give me a break. >> kayleigh: we intended to play on the sound bite. if you play on, you hear gavin newsom who says over and over again that he's combatting misinformation. he said that to president biden. president biden in the wake of hurricane helene -- i watched the press conference, said misinformation, and misinformation, and susan page

asked what is your big regret, he said failure to combat misinformation. why is it that misinformation continues to be the scapegoat? >> jason chaffetz: that's the only thing he's got, and the same gavin newsom who said i'm literally on the phone with the president right now, and only to find out it's a big lie, and just lining up lie after lie after lie. and by the way, you know this better than anybody, if they were seriously having communication with the officials in los angeles, they wouldn't be in the situation room, they wouldn't be in the made-for-television event in the oval office. i want them to get after the people that are doing the looting, and some of us thought they should have taken the hard line before the fire. but i'm glad to see them doing. i want hem to communicate and help i.c.e. if they want to have the tough talk, they want the detainers from i.c.e. are honored and this

is an issue. they are trying to implement the sanctuary city policies and that is not going to help the situation. >> kayleigh: gavin newsom when he was asked about the fire hydrants, and pointed to local officials and that's what he said. this is the fire chief. >> yes, we took a $17 million budget cut. any budget cut would limit us in carrying out our duties, and the 17 million-dollar cut with the mechanics and severely impacts our ability to repair apparatus. i have been clear over years that the fire department needs help. we can no longer sustain where we are. we don't have enough firefighters. with that, i requested multiple budgets, interim budgets to show how understaffed, underfunded

the lafd is. >> kayleigh: there is this huge dust-up. that's the fire chief. then karen bass, the mayor, said in response to that, that is not accurate. they've been backgrounding to reporters -- i presume it's karen bass' team that the budget actually increased after the fiscal year, and increased by 7%. that is measuring just within one fiscal year. there's the dust-up, and there was confusion as to whether she was fired or not. i want to point out "the wall wl street journal," and this gates to the heart, and they spent on pension and benefits, and much of that would have been better spent on the fire department's budget. and both goes to what are missing. >> harris: i watched every news conference, and karen bass gets farther and farther down the list of guests, and happen at 11 a.m., and i am listening to who goes first. she is not going first. today she is fourth. they are not looking to her to fight the fires right now. they are not looking to her to do much of anything. there is something going on in

the background there and we can't focus on that. i don't want to focus on that. when the time comes, lots of questions about the money, where it went, how it went, so on and so forth. i want to get back to the point of misinformation, though. anything that democrats are doing -- and i caution gavin newsom, i'm sure he's not going to take my advice. anything that man in the oval office is saying right now, you should not be repeating as a democrat. you can't win with misinformation in the time of a crisis. that's not going to help you win. if you use biden's talking points, they'll take you off the ticket, too. i mean, that's just basic math. so i don't really listen to much he has to say because i know it's all political and i know people are hurting, and he actually is not helping. and i was wrong last week. the restaurant that he sneaked out to during the covid restriction lockdowns that he put into place wasn't 2 stars. it was a 3 star michelin. his priorities, not mine. i don't know if they're yours. >> kayleigh: you have a lot of finger pointing, emily, and the

fire chief pointing at karen bass, and gavin newsom pointing to local officials for answers and then jen saki is saying let's look the elon musk. >> and they need to confront a complicated and challenging reality moving forward. but right now, that is not exactly what is happening. instead, donald trump and his allies are injecting half-truths, misinformation, and flatout lies in some cases in order to score a version of political points, i suppose. we saw something play out this past october in the aftermath of helene, when repeated lies about disaster relief funds on migrants, and those lies were spread and amplified by the richest man on the world on the social media site he owns. now we're back in this vicious cycle. >> i guess, it's trump and elon. >> the vicious cycle that i see is this administration continuing to be obsessed with the upcoming, recurring

president, and the good things he's done for society. she talks about the complex situation. let's dive into what it looked like in the state of california and i want to focus on the budgets. it's not so black and white to say that budget cuts led to the fires. because the reality is in the fall, city officials approved a larger contract for the priorities. to your point earlier, 350 million goes to firefighters' pensions and salaries -- well deserved, of course. benefits. but only 5% to prevention. and when you couple that with the mayor and the fire chief saying their top priority, quote/unquote, is diversity, equity, and inclusion and you couple that with 9 of the possessions being dei directors, you start to see where the priorities lay, and it's fine to have the guys taken care of, of course. and the reality is you are inknowing the other factors, and the fourth largest fire in california state history was started by a r a recidivism fel,

and 20 of the 24 fires are started in homeless camps, and why are things black and white and it's not about the regulations he deregregulated, d so much of the environment was flushed out, and this goes more than the black and white situation that dems can point to. >> you point to a lot of problems in l.a., and someone pointing to problems was maria schriver. >> what did she say? >> l.a. cannot go forward with the status quo, and it has to prioritize the citizens, police, fire. >> it's because people in l.a. nolet will never be the same again, and this idea of -- first of all, it's interesting to see them all turning on each other. >> right. >> this is what they are doing.

now the new one is we're going to turn and blame donald trump and elon musk, it's not going to work this time. and their friends who amplify the messages had their houses burn down, and mad as heck, and pissed off, and i didn't see this from maria schriver, but there's a lot of them and this is not just an indictment on these leaders and their incompetence. this is an indictment on liberal policies -- environmental policies that we need to talk about that, because they are behind this. whether it's the smelt or the environmental groups that are -- the donors that are funding these campaigns that are basically suing anyone who tries to do the right thing in terms of fire prevention. >> yeah, what a lot of people don't realize is with environmental law, 49 states follow federal guidelines, and california has a carve-out where they can create their own environmental regulations. think about that. we're moments away from today's white house briefing. national security advisor jake

sullivan joining press secretary at the podium

[ ♪ ♪ ] >> harris: all right, so here they come. and what will this be like? a hot seat, indeed. you're looking live at the white house news briefing set to get underway any moment now inside the white house. press secretary karine jean-pierre will be joined by national security advisor jake sullivan. we'll monitor the briefing throughout the hour, and if they get to the point of asking some pertinent questions now, not only about the fire situation which we know is paramount because, you know, fema is part of that. they're part of that leadership. but all the rest of the things that are going around the world with just six days until inauguration day. we'll tap in if we need to, and

we'll watch it stem to stern and bring you the headlines. one week away from inauguration day, and less if we're counting by hours, which i am. president trump is sending a message of unity to house republicans ahead of his new administration, and vice president j.d. vance spoke with fox news on sunday for the first post election television interview about how trump is preparing to clean up the quote/unquote dumpster fire left by the biden administration. and first, we a go to west palm beach, florida. >> it's been a busy weekend with president-elect trump in mar-a-lago, and at his estate, and somewhere behind the waters, and all people want to get a meeting with him and talk about major issues before he heads back to the white house in a week and it comes as j.d. vance says president biden left this administration with one big mess. >> the real truth is that joe biden has left us a dumpster fire.

donald trump is going to have to put it out. but he's good at doing that. >> just one week to go now before trump returns to the white house. meetings continue at mar-a-lago there. including about the relationship with canada. the president-elect seen here meeting with alberta premier danielle smith and kevin o'leary, a canadian businessman and the star of "shark tank." trump says canada soon could be the 51st state. >> we're in a long-term marriage with the people of the united states. we're not dating. we're married. sometimes couples have some problems. they get into a little tiff. but because they've been married forever, they work it out. >> but they say the conversation went well about canada, and the trump team is eyeing greenland. the president-elect says controlling the world's largest island is necessary for our national security. his son, don junior, was just out there the other day wearing a make a america great again hat and talking to people in greenland as vice president-elect j.d. vance says there's a deal to be made here.

>> i think there actually is a real opportunity here for us to take leadership to protect america's security, to ensure that those incredible natural resources are developed and that's what donald trump is good at. he's good at making deals. and i think there's a deal to be made in greenland. >> reporter: so as they work those deals, harris, here in palm beach, they're preparing to have the picks go through the nomination process and go through the confirmation process over there on capitol hill which starts on tuesday. they feel excited and think their picks are prepared and ready to go. but they'll face some tough questions. harris. >> harris: as they should. that's the way it works. alexis, thank you very much. jason chaffetz, no one expects anyone with an r by their name going against a democrat in the last 12, 16 years at the white house or on the hill to give republicans a pass. but how tough do you think it could be considering the fact that many of them are saying it

will be tough. and they're pushing against trump. >> jason chaffetz: well, the margin is so tight in the house. you have to have the majority. but remember, elise stefanik, she is going to be over there at the united nations and you have michael waltz who is going to be on day one, and the national security advisor, and suddenly if you lose two votes, you lose. it's hard to get all of that together. here's what i'm excited about: the country is starving for leadership. they want to know who is actually in charge, who is actually making the decisions. over the last year, it's not very apparent who has been making the decisions, and i think they're also starving for competence. donald trump will bring the competence back to the white house. right now government is failing at every level in places that democrats run them. and imagine the difference -- >> that's the thing. >> jason chaffetz: imagine the difference in florida, ron desantis has a hurricane and they are building the bridge days later. do you hear a discussion about

rebuilding other than we might have a meeting. >> harris: it's hard to rebuild when you're infighting. >> jason chaffetz: true. >> harris: but also nature is working against them, in all fairness. what is coming in the next 24 hours with the high winds, i hope they are more prepared when the exact same warnings went out last monday. they said that during the news conference. that it looks almost exactly the same. 75-mile an hour winds forecast. >> nature is working against them. in the rebuild, the regulations in l.a. are really going to be the big problem. it's going to be hard to rebuild. that's a whole other issue. and i believe the environmental policies are also on display here. and the people -- you know, the people whose houses are burned down right now, they are the ones who are funding all of the environmental groups to a large extent and funding the democrat politicians who are now responsible for the condition of l.a. >> harris: you know, as you look forward with these nomination picks, if the president doesn't get what he needs to deliver on those promises of change, emily, to

come forthw forth with his visi, that's going to be tough, the american people voted a certain way, and some never voted that way before. >> emily: i'm keeping it in mind that everyone will come together and make this happen. we are too close and the mandate too clear to have infighting, and anything less than a semblance of united front to achieve the great strides we're so gr close to achieving, and if they would get unified on this. >> harris: and hopefully back in the hands. >> i predict every single nominee is going to get across the finish line. i think donald trump will get confirmation of all of them. but just a reminder to weak-kneed republicans out there. 48 of you voted for lloyd austin. six of you voted for for mayork, and you can vote for pete

hegseth, and tulsi gabbard and the list goes on. >> harris: we'll cover all of it stem to stern. president biden says he would have beaten president-elect trump if he didn't exit the race. jason, you're laughing so loud, they're going to hear you. and that bold claim is betting pushback, including a democrat who calls it a joke. who calls it a joke. that's next. o provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. yay - woo hoo! ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, nutrients for immune health. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. (♪)

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to be able to move. >> let's think about this. this is not a theoretical exercise. >> are you okay? >> kamala could have beaten trump, would have beaten trump. she did not beat trump, rachel. >> rachel: she did not beat trump, and i don't know if he knows obama pushed him out. and he said i dropped out for unity. that's not true. he got pushed out. everyone knows that. but people do want unity. if you look at donald trump's party, the way he's remade it. he has rfk junior, tulsi gabbard, and he has a multiracial working class party behind him. that's unity. so many of the issues, whether it's anti-war or at least, you know, putting america's interests first on the war question, whether it's make america healthy again -- there are so many issues that used to be democrat issues that are now bipartisan issues. i think we're going -- people will be really surprised. i think the second term is going to be about unity.

everything that president biden would do in 2020, donald trump will do it in the next term. >> you see more democrats coming on board and ten more voted for the laken reilly act. and. >> you will see more people coming over. >> without question. >> and i thought we'd pull up the data, and this is the last data set we could have and donald trump would have beaten him according to polls 3.1%, which is double what he beat kamala by. >> that's part and pars parcel e is so insulted and injured and wounded over being pushed out. i truly believe he believes he could have beaten trump and the kamala point -- you heard me, i belly laughed. in the tu temper tantrum he is having now, and the dumpster power he is leaving the trump

administration, to your point, i think the rationale common sense, democrat voter, the moderates that represent hopefully the majority of the party, that they will come on board. and they will see the positive effects, and the common sense of the gop and trump platform that translates to all boats lifted, and the closing of gitmo, and the off-shore drilling, and the ridiculous pardons, all of that to me speaks that they are trying to ensure that they can say that biden's legacy is an extension of obama's. which is a completely perverted other world of anything and completely antithetical to american values. that's what they are trying to do and i think it will be interesting to see whether it works far from now and as they curry the votes of the extreme far left, and say look, what he did in the office, which is the last month of his office.

>> what emily said is important, and that biden believes he could beat trump. wall street journal said they had 50 sources -- five zero. >> and this stands out, and democratic insiders were alarmed by the way he described the polling and publicly saying tha they worried he wasn't getting an unvarnished look at his standing in the race. they kept him in a cocoon. >> yeah. >> well, he -- he's just delusional. and in my opinion, he's just delusional. if he thinks kamala harris would have beaten harris, but for what. he spent more than 40% of his time away from the white house. doing what. and the long-term problem here for democrats is they are void of ideas. their ideas fail. they were wrong on everything, and they were wrong on crime and immigration, and foreign policy, and i think joe biden is going to take two speeches this week -- at least read a teleprompter to try to gaslight

and rewrite history to try to frame it in such a way that really isn't a reflection of reality. >> so i predict that those democrats who were trying to help with the legacy and forget all about him, and take credit for whatever leanings he has at the end of his career here. as time passes and he's not around to say no, i did that, no, i did that, and all of the others are going to say we pushed him to do this at the end as they began to take podiums and lecterns across the country running for offices. i would say this: anybody who believes anything coming out of that man's mouth has to remember that russia's president putin certainly did not believe that he was making a minor incursion when he invaded ukraine which is what biden told him not to do. iran did not care that biden said don't when it came to hitting israel. it did. now israel is very capable of defending itself, and it did. they were back and forth for a

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[ ♪ ♪ ] >> well, california governor gavin newsom is trying to defed his handling of the state's deadly wildfire outbreak. we told you about his latest attacks towards president-elect trump and how now he's launching this new website, guys, aimed at combatting supposed misinformation around his response to the fires. there is an option on the website to donate to the

california fire fund. here's the thing: it's not a direct donation. even though there are ways to donate directly to the fund, instead here the governor is accepting donations through the democratic fundraising platform actblue. which side note, guys, takes nearly 4% in processing fees. and he's not the only democrat doing this. your favorite senator elizabeth warren urged her followers to use her actblue link. so did the links at the progressive podcast pod save america. jason, i want to ask you about this. i ask this neutrally is it standard protocol to have sort of fundraising for disaster relief occur through democratic super pack organizations? >> jason chaffetz: i have never heard or seen of that before. and it is a democratic-run organization. and they do get a financial benefit for every dollar that goes through it. think of all of the ones they could have donated to. everything from the red cross t.

it could have directly gone to helping people. no, they are crass enough to put it lieu a democratic-run organization called actblue. >> that's the point. hammer home, you can always donate to the fire fund, and instead of linking director, the governor put it through his super pack political activist democratic party site. >> yeah, it's a horrible look. you know, i went on the website. i saw that it's processed through actblue. i do want to point out newsom's team told fox news digital that the donations made will be directed. none of it, excuse me, will be directed to the governor or his pack and they go on to say they raised $450,000. even if that's the case, it's a bad look to have actblue processing this. it's a bad look when you go on the website, and they have all of these, what they call lies, listed out, and misinformation and rebuttals to all of this. this fire has been going on less than a week and your team managed to have the time to put together what i would call a misinformation website. it's a horrible look.

look, i know people say it all the time. if a republican had been doing it, it would be -- they'd be going crazy in the media. >> people need help, rachel, and they need help directly. to kayleigh's point, fine, why not put the link directly, and showing what it is doing than their sites. it sounds like it's top-down in california. >> they must be worried about the next political campaigns. a lot of the people they get money from, their houses are burnt down. they're mad at yeah, this is they know exactly what would happen. they would get skewered. so, yeah, absolutely. >> jason chaffetz: let's see right after the fact if they get news letters and other solicitations. once you capture all of the information and their email, we'll see what follow-up happens in the months that come forward. >> do you want to share about the mayor? >> listen, a lot of people have been talking about who is to

blame whether it's gavin newsom or the mayor, and a lot of people don't realize that karen bass -- we talk of the left wing policies. she has ties to communism. she was cutting sugar cane in cuba. she's had 15 trips to cuba. met with fidel castro. she is a solid communist. don't be surprised that your policies make your city look like this when you put a communist -- somebody -- a communist and a communist sympathizeer at the top of your -- of the heap as the mayor of los angeles. it's not surprising. they manage things -- look at how cuba is managed and now look at it. >> harris: actblue, that's an insidious way of fundraising and politicizing. it's exactly what you say, and they have everybody's emails and all of the contacts, and because it's an emergency and they have personal details shrining lieu p

through actblue and the governor couldn't get all of that with a simple donation to his politicau will. the other thing that i'm thinking about with this is actblue -- i'm familiar mostly with them because they were in charge of collecting funds -- bailout money when we had protests here in new york and across the country. so money was flowing through as early as the protests after george floyd which some of them turned out to be rather violent. those tents and things -- i was reporting on this contemporaneously when the tents were popping up on universities. that's where i first really started to hear about actblue's ability to attach itself to these disasters and to these important moments in history and also to politicians simultaneously. but i don't think gavin newsom cares. you know how i feel about him. his priorities are not mine. >> and the priorities are reflected in the use of actblue to garner d donations. to your point, no disaster goes

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how are they managing these challenges? and the winds set to kick up again. plus with major insurance companies pulling out of california, is there a solution for homeowners on the horizon? richard giller, an insurance expert joins us. ahead of president-elect donald trump's inauguration, meta and amazon pulling back on diversity and inclusion programs. what does this shift signal to corporate america and some of our educational institutions? i'm john roberts, come join sandra smith and me at the top of the hour for "america reports" in 9 minutes and 20 seconds. >> former cnn host don lemon is at it again, and choice words for the hosts of msnbc's "morning joe" after they talked about being civil with president-elect trump. >> if they acquiesce seemingly publicly what does it mean in the broader sense of the

structure, of the fabric of our society? you have to indicate to the american people that this is not normal. grining with someone who has those -- you have called a fascist over the last couple of years, and the last months, that's not normal. if someone disrespects my loved one, i don't have to smile in their [edited out] face. and they're going to know it. these are the very same maga people who have called and donald trump has helped promote, calling michelle obama, a man. i'm not smiling in your face if you're calling my sister or my mother or my wife or girlfriend a man. [edited out] you. >> i didn't know he was related. >> okay, so, i know -- this -- you used to watch him. which is funny for me. and i know it's for the entertainment value. talk to us, kayleigh, about the entertainment value of this by don lemon and his thoughts of

being civil with the president. >> kayleigh: don lemon was mice favorite late night comedy show, and it was not intended to be comedy, and it still is. and he went on this rant and raced with profane t tirades. and i give don lemon a point, and it is this, and i remember they said trump wants to a appot his generals and have them run a french guillotine, and don lemon has a point under the ignorance and profanity. >> and i hear people say it's okay to change and we welcome it because president trump reflects the vast majority of americans' values and views and certainly represents the betterment of this country, and my question to you, jason, is whether his refusal to change positions, to pivot from one of utter unacceptance of the fact i just

said, will that be an ink stain on the democratic party moving forward and media moving forward during the next four years? >> i think right at the root of so many democrats is the resistance movement. they are anti-everything all the time. you know what, i can't get over all of the people who preach tolerance are often times the least tolerant among us, and it gets old and i think people are tired of it. >> yeah. i think people are tired of it. i think don lemon is just trying to be relevant and make a little money. he got thrown off of cnn and now he has a podcast, and now he's just trying to be relevant. i think the mood of the american people is they want competence. and i think the mood of the american people is they want to give donald trump a chance after what happened the last time. and so i think you're going to see -- especially in the wake of all of the disasters, and let's not forget about north carolina. >> let's not. >> they're getting thrown out of fema homes and whatnot. i think people are in the mood to get things back on track.

and you see that through john fetterman, and you see that -- there are a lot of signs of that, and let's hope it's true. >> and -- who is watching don lemon for anything that is instructive in their lives? >> comedy. >> that's what i wanted to ask you about. he -- i don't know what plot platformthat is. and i think it's free and digital. >> i like during the commercial you asked what platform is he on? >> and the oxygen give to that extremism and i find more responsibility with those who say let me run that in primetime, and do you see less oxygen given to the resistance in the next four years? >> resistance, no. i was listening to npr in my car the other day and my husband leaves it on the network and he is you have to listen to everybody. well, he's right about that. there was a guest, corey bush on and they were talking about the resistance, and what being liberal really means and it sounded like it was a

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