tax cuts were important, as well. the fact businesses can obviously concentrate on their products, their consumers, their employees themselves, that frees him up, not having to look over his shoulder, what regulation to have to follow from the federal government to keep me out of jail? that is liberating. if we can extend the current tax law or simplify and rationalize it and make it permanent, that provides enormous stability, which will also really spur economic growth. listen, i'm optimistic. president trump is for the private-sector, so is scott and a lot of people serving in the administration. >> sandra: senator kim always appreciate chatting with you. thank you so much, sir. >> sandra: have a great evening. along with john roberts come i'm sandra smith, and for now here is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> jesse: hello, everybody. i'm jesse watters along with katie pavlich, harold ford jr.,

dana perino, and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five." ♪ ♪ it's the series finale for dark brandon. president biden giving a bitter and divisive farewell speech from the oval before he shuffles off into the delaware sunset with hunter. >> i want to win the country of some things that give me great concern. this is a dangerous -- that is the dangerous concentration of power in the hands of a very few ultra wealthy people. and the dangerous consequences if their abuse of power is left unchecked. today, an oligarchy is taking shape in america of extreme wealth, power, and influence that literally threatens our entire democracy. americans are being buried under an avalanche of miss information and disinformation, enabling the abuse of power, the free press is crumbling, hitters are

disappearing, social media is giving up on fact-checking. the truth is smothered by allies, told for power and for profit. >> jesse: so let's get this straight. the big guy is suddenly concerned about the corrupting influence of billionaires in politics? just two weeks after awarding a presidential medal of freedom to the godfather of dirty money in politics, george soros. meanwhile, it was a thrill of the leg for obama and now it is a chill down the spine for joe biden. the media fawning over all the others final speech. >> he talked about the free press crumbly which put a shiver down my spine and then talked about how truth is being sacrificed for allies for the purposes of power and pro profit, so he has essentially decided not to brag on the way out about what he did commit put a chill down my spine. >> eight speech for the history book.

>> a love letter to the country. it was a lasting speech. >> it was deeply personal, you did see the photos of the family sitting behind president biden. >> jesse: deeply personal it was, doug, kamala and jill were seated at his side looking like they're holding a seance. and with the credits rolling on the joe show, the white house trying to smooth over biden's cranky old man persona by releasing a video port ranger as your wonderful milk shake-guzzling goofball grandpa. >> how are you doing? >> good, how are you doing, sir? >> 5 minutes. >> jesse: all right, he is still waiting for that milk shake, greg. when you heard the word oligarchy muttered last night, what went through your mind? >> greg: that he had no idea what he was talking about.

nothing there -- look, his slurring was extra noticeable tonight, edits when eight words, you know, become one long train derailment. i'm pretty sure the medical staff has already checked out. they didn't even replace the batteries in his life alert. they just left. axelrod is so smart. he said this is the best speech i ever heard, that bar is pretty low, this is like the best color had, give my regards to the doctor. joe clearly doesn't get it, he is like the guy who is supposed to make the wedding toast but then recites all the sexual escapades of the groom in front of the horrified guests. there is also something that makes all criticism pointless: he is blissfully ignorant of the past four years. another analogy, criticizing a drunk who blacked out and doesn't remember he ran through

walmart naked singing "we are the champions." to him it never happened. i think this is why his speech left everybody colder than his body temperature. there is no closure, because with biden, you can't come to terms with someone who doesn't know what the terms are. and it is -- we know in politics in general, all you really noticed was the artifice, because the individual wasn't there. the speech was banal and bitter. the whole enterprise became meaningless and fake commuter saw the set. it was like the address had the authenticity of the picture you get with a new photo frame. you are only supposed to look at the frame, not what's in it. that address was a frame with nobody in it. >> jesse: dana, last night you were struggling to find something nice to say about the farewell address. 24 hours later, anything? >> dana: nothing has -- well, it's over. it's in the rearview mirror.

it was a lot of hype for the last final speech. there was no final substance, no direction, nobody will remember it in a week. it was disjointed. they tried to start with a breaking news about the ceasefire, attempt at soaring rhetoric. and also i would focus speech writers for this: you have a guy who is basically humiliated, for somebody who lost -- one, kicked out of his party. he said he would have beaten donald trump, we all know he was losing by 400 electoral votes. somebody who is not a great oratory. and they tried to give him lines that ronald reagan could del deliver. and then they start to add all the other little pet project things for all of the little super pacs that they are going to do when they leave the white house. where do you think this tech oligarchy stuff is coming from? how soon do you think you're going to see some super pacs that will fight against the big tech guys? they didn't care about the tech guys when they were helping them

on the russian disinformation package. they didn't care about any of that. they didn't care about the tech guys when they were telling them to take down covid vaccine disinformation. but now they care. and also, look, i get it. a lot of those guys have turned on a dime. that's the way the election w went. i thought that at the end when he was talking about needing to get dark money out of politics, that's what really set me over the edge and i decided i have to put away my notes that said every president deserves a chance to say goodbye and this is really nice, serve 50 years and he is a patriot and loves his country, because i said the democrats got more dark money then any entity in the history of politics in this past election. they blew it all. and last week, he gave the medal of freedom to george soros. how can you possibly say that? and every poll showing that nobody feels like he has done a good job. i talked about the one from gallup yesterday, last night

fox news poll, more today from the "usa today" poll, nobody thinks anything is better. >> jesse: harold, is the democratic party through joe biden speech which he probably didn't write trying to reposition themselves now against the tech tycoons after losing them? >> harold: good to be with you. i don't think so. i don't think the democratic party wrote that speech. i was looking -- i don't agree with what everybody has said, but i do think the sentiment i agree with, i thought the speech could have been more cheerful, more optimistic, could have talked more about the accomplishments and perhaps where he was born, where he was raised, how those values defined and informed his public service, and he would hope the next generation of leaders, however they were born, wherever they were born, believe in the experiment of america and the success of this great nation and that we are all accountable for it. i don't believe that you should ever begrudge anyone success or people making money, particularly people who came from very humble backgrounds. i understand the needs and desires come americans want more

growth for every americans, all to share in the growth and prosperity and to give people equal chances to succeed. i think going after the innovation and tech community, i love the word oligarchy, i remember it was one of the words i didn't get right on my eighth grade english essay, so i have learned it and known it ever since then, i knew what he was trying to get at, but i thought there was a better way to do that. he was granted 15 minutes in front of the entire country last night, 11 presidents have been able to do this, a farewell address like this. he had every right to do what he did. but i would have done it differently and i would have wanted to end on a cheerier and more optimistic note because he did a lot of things and i think the country 20 years from now will be appreciative about, will be appreciative of, but listening to that, i think greg come i think dana, your points, katie, i heard you say something even earlier about, unfortunately, i think this is what people may remember as his last remarks. >> greg: won't remember it, though.

>> jesse: odd that he would take this opportunity to warn the country about all of these things that he never ever talked about in the last four years. >> katie: well, to his credit, i mean, he used the word oligarchy because he is very familiar with that, russian oligarchs who paid hunter, ukrainian oligarchs who paid hunter, so to use that word is actually very close to the business deals that made his family rich and is now going to try and enjoy, getting to pardon hunter with the crimes enriching his family that way. but in terms of the tone of the speech, i thought it just showed how dishonest joe biden was when he ran for office in 2020. he was supposed to be uniter who was supposed to save the soul of the country, restore unity and bring everybody together, and yet he came out at the end as one of the most far left progressive presidents we have ever had. and it is very difficult to talk about cheery accomplishments when your policies have

inflicted harm on americans in ways that we haven't seen in decades, whether it is with inflation, whether it is with a hostage crisis that is still ongoing today, and understand the joe biden is bitter with his own party after they kicked him out, but last night he came out to the american people and took it out on them and he took it out on people who he was perfectly happy partnering with, the big tech companies, when he used them to get elected in 2020 and then use them when he was in the oval office, in the federal government to wield his power to violate the constitutional rights of americans. and then finally, barack obama comes out on twitter last night to praise joe biden after knifing him in the back, pushing him off the campaign trail after he also tried to present joe as the guy who is going to beat trump and then all of a sudden turned around and didn't explain why he had to leave the race. so it was ugly, but to his credit, it's difficult to come out and have a nice speech about

your compliments when the american people are so unhappy that you just lost to a guy you did everything possible to keep from regaining the white house. >> harold: i differ there. he was wrong to do what he did but he had something positive -- i agree with the sentiment, i think he missed every opportunity. >> jesse: i thought it was his best speech ever because it was his last. coming up, trump nominees continue to steamroll the democrats. pam bondi just smacked down adam schiff. ♪ ♪

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>> katie: well the trump cabinet confirmation blitz continues as his nominees steamroll the democrats. today for more of the president-elect's nominees faced questioning from senators during confirmation hearings. character witnesses for pam bondi testifying on her behalf and trump attorney general pick who vows to rid the doj of -- lays the smack down on those who want to play politics. >> you are trying to engage be in a gotcha. nobody has asked me to investigate -- >> the president has -- >> we should be worried about the crime rate in california right now -- >> you are aware -- >> your job will be -- i am speaking -- your job will be to protect voters. >> i hope you answer, miss bondi -- >> you pointed your finger at me -- >> let me -- >> i'm not going to be bullied.

>> if president-elect trump asks, suggests, or hints that u.s. attorney general should investigate one of his perceived political enemies among would you do so? >> senator hirono, i wish you had met with me. had you met with me, we could have discussed many things -- >> i am listening to you now. could you respond to the question? >> katie: so, dana, would you like to comment on the exchange with the senator from hawaii? >> dana: getting to see her so much this week, the senator from hawaii commit is like watching bambi learn to walk. she starts off by reading the questions that her staff has prepared for her but she does it so slowly and it eats up all of her time which means the person answering doesn't have a chance to answer. the other thing is watching pam bondi yesterday, it's like you know how the whole campaign for the democrats against republicans is how much they hate women? like, it's unbelievable, especially the women coming out of florida. you have ashley moody being

announced to take over for marco rubio today, i thought that was kind of interesting. it also is jarring i think for the senators to finally have a different generation to deal with, right, the age difference of the senators and the nominees is quite stark. and noticeable. and the energy level right th there. today, dave ehrenberg is his name, a democrat who ran for the attorney general seat when pam bondi was running, he lost to the democratic primary. pam bondi went on to win that race, and then she hired dave ehrenberg to come and work with her on the opiate crisis, and he testified on pam bondi's behalf today and said you don't have to worry about her when it comes to following the rule of law. she will not be pressured. she is amazing. so to have something like that in this kind of environment to speak for you is something else. the other thing i would mention is this. went after scott bessent, of course going for the treasury

secretary position, and this quote just stuck out to me. non-white said we are in a clean energy arms race with china. will you be on the side that is for us or against us? and bessent, so comment smart, said china is going to build 100 new coal plants this year. we are in an energy arms race, and it is just refreshing to see some really interesting people come on board and try to get to be part of this cabinet. >> katie: suggest you have shifty schiff upgrading from the u.s. house to the senate, says a lot about california, unfortunately, and his questioning was about liz cheney rather than about real big issues facing the country at what the attorney general is going to have to focus on. >> jesse: if you close your eyes and don't know who is talking, you would think whoopi, joy, and sunny were asking the questions. paranoid questions about is trump going to do a third term, are you going to lay hand on liz cheney? these are not questions the

middle class cares about. this party thinks they want to get back to repping the middle-class. no one cares about this stuff. they already rendered a verdict on whether trump is going to be a dictator or not. but they are still clinging to this stupid playbook that is making them look even worse. you are starting to see what happens when the machine is broken. usually you expect these perfectly timed, explosive allegations to drop the morning of, or these narratives, these stinging questions, and the media is all colluding with the press -- with the democrats. you are usually kind of like, oh, my god, are these guys going to survive? that's gone. all of their donors don't want to give come all of their tech guys switched sides. the media is falling apart. journalists are going to private -- it is done. you are looking at a system, if this is going to continue this way, there is no resistance at

all. >> katie: harold come on that point, the process and getting these nominees actually confirmed can take quite a while. is there room here for senate democrats to work with the majority leader to try and push these nominees at a faster pace so the entire washington, d.c., government spectrum can get on with the american people's business? >> harold: well, i'm not sure how much -- first of all, i hope they do, to answer your question, i hope the president has an opportunity, two thinks they have sweeping authority, with pardons, and a lot of authority with this year, democrat or republican, very hard to turn back. i didn't see any of these nominees come i don't think our fit, i may disagree with some of them, i thought the democrats, to your point, jesse, they were petty, predictable, myopic, and to your point, it was just unserious. some of the questions. i think when you get to this point and lost the race, you said it before, greg, we are

still having lost this raised as you have to be thinking about the future and the things that matter. pam bondi gave as good as she got there, and those senators should understand that, but why not ask her, if you are serious about cashless bail, are you going to use it to your power as an attorney general to help cities across the country deal with crime? she talked about crime in california. if you are serious about mental health issues in your community where you have a lot of people on the streets, we do here in new york and other big cities do, ask if she is open to innovative, accretive programs to help cops at the local level deal with these issues and would she be willing to work with the hud secretary to deal with these things, take about your cities. i have said before, if the president is coming in who wants to do the kinds of things this president was to do, they're going to be things you disagree with him on but you have to sit with your top people where you live and say what are the five things that he can help us on? and ask those questions of those cabinet secretaries. i thought scott bessent, who is a friend, i hope they get confirmed, i hope all of them get confirmed, to be honest with

you, because you are not going to stop them. they may not be my cup of tea, katie, but there can putting themselves in a way that are going to help them not only get approved, but likely help them advance the agenda that they have laid out before the -- >> katie: greg, one of the things i liked about pam bondi's testimony yesterday is when she said we are getting back to the basics. we are going to go after cartels and criminals and drugs, so she is getting back down to what she is supposed to be doing, rather than his academic, woke ideology that has been in government the last four years. >> greg: i'm tired, frankly, of everyone saying that jesse is the shallow one at fox. [laughter] >> jesse: you are tired of that? >> greg: i am tired. i want to be the shallow one. so can we just admit what we are all thinking? republican nominees are h-o-t. though interrogators are n-o-t. democrats are nothing but a

collection of threes, may be a four, but mostly threes, gussied up, 3.2. think about the irony of tim kaine interrogating pete hegseth over heavy drinking. did you look at tim kaine? he looks like he just spent a 12 day bender after getting tossed from a homeless shelter. he looked like nick nolte's mug shot. how i want to steer this into an unlikely area. why do republicans look better? because they have a system. you are seeing the physical and the psychological unite. it is why pete and sean and pam, they tower over these unkempt goofballs. we know, and i am a health expert, as you know, years of working in health journalism, won many awards, we know when you put junk in your body you actually feel bad afterwards, you kind of get depressed about it. you say i am not going to do it anymore. what about the reverse? how do the junk thoughts when

they inhabit your brain make your body feel? it is why the left-wing activists don't just sound miserable, they look really, really miserable. negative thoughts generated by a victim mentality, elevated by the left, will change your posture, your skin, your fitness. why bother taking yourself seriously if the world is out to get you? if the world is out to get you, there is nothing you can do, so forget it. you are seeing the left say that fitness is bigoted, obesity should be a protected class, you are noticing how when they are faced with people who are aspirational in their work and in their physical presence, they want to destroy them. and i am here today to defend physically attractive and the sexually appealing. i want to be your gandhi, your martin luther king or malcom x or nelson mandela. >> dana: negative thoughts make you feel like --

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♪ ♪ >> dana: bitter infighting continues to consume the democratic party. behind the scenes, vice president kamala harris is reportedly venting to her inner circle about being disappointed and biden's claim that he would have beat trump, but with the cameras on her today, the vp put on a brave face and signed her

desk and a tradition carried on by vice president and president since the 1940s. >> i am fully aware that i am a public face of a lot of our work, and as you all know, we have spent long hours, long days, and months and years together, it is not my nature two quietly into the night, so don't worry about that. going to continue getting work done until monday, and then i will keep you posted. >> dana: and paging dr. jill biden, the first lady is so clearly very bitter at the woman who led the coup against her husband, saying the stuff of nancy pelosi, "we were friends for 50 years. she is using her teacher's voice now and it was disappointing. being france for 50 years, you and i have been friends for 15, 16 years, you would never tell me to jump off a bridge, that is what the bidens were asking the democrat party to do. >> greg: nancy did all she

could. she lied for four years. what else can you expect from her? you know what the deal is? everyone loves to be a winner, and no one wants to be a loser. you know, the critics say trump is all about himself, but the bigger point is when he wins, you win because he takes you along for the ride. ythey are not on the right. trump is your lawyer, so if he wins, personally and professionally it is good for him, but it is also good for you because he is your lawyer. it just so happens good things take longer to happen and it took time for people to come around to this outcome, and i have said it before, joe biden was the worst halftime show in history. trump won, trump two, terrible halftime show with maroon 5, and now we can't wait for the second half to resume. >> dana: this is the harris definition of win, listen to

this. >> our definition of the win is the definition that takes us over a period of time, where part of how we measure the win is are we making progress? how we measure the win is based on the knowledge that it is an enduring fight. and that we must be strong. and that whatever the outcome of any particular moment, we can never be defeated. >> greg: wow. >> dana: it goes on from there. >> greg: that's amazing. >> jesse: so even when you lose, you win. >> dana: yes, that's how it works. >> jesse: at the end of the game, you have less points they other team, you didn't lose because the game just keeps going, and you keep improving, and it's how you played the game. this is an inspiring speech by a coach. >> greg: inspired by --

>> jesse: how do you spell that? >> greg: you are shallow, our new? >> jesse: i stopped drinking while i had a problem. >> dana: no problem. >> jesse: so washington is about power. how to get it, how to keep it. remember in mid-july how bad biden was doing, he had covid come bombed the debate, the donors weren't giving. nancy had to amputate, she had to come it was business, it wasn't personal. the kamala thing, she things it is one-sided loyalty. she thinks she has been so loyal to jill. she was asked would you do anything differently? nothing comes to mind. she didn't even criticize him at all, to the detriment of her own campaign. meanwhile he is out there leaking about her, sabotaging her, calling everybody garbage in the country, saying oh, i could have won. you have to be kidding me, man. i have stood with you every step of the way, and you do this? so here is her chance. she is supposed to be getting the biggest book advance of any vice president in american

history. >> dana: who is going to read it? >> jesse: if she tells the truth, it will sell more than greg's books, almost more than greg's books, because that is what people want. if she tells the truth about the last four years, i will buy the book, i will buy six of them, but if she doesn't and it is platitude, she's got nowhere to go. >> dana: okay, may be, harold, is that with the democratic party needs? someone to write a barn burner and tell all of the things -- >> jesse: cleanse. >> dana: get it out. >> harold: new. [laughter] what we need more is a reckoning with the party of listening to the country and an understanding that history says that when a party, democrat or republican, controls the white house and both chambers is this party does, president trump enjoys, the midterm is always a referendum on whether or not they were able to use that power. president trump, we talk about, it was a great victory, it was a resounding victory. democrats will say a few million more people, a couple hundred

thousand more people in states voted one way we would have won, well, they didn't. he won with a big number and he won the house and the senate. republicans nor should president trump misconstrue this. there was a basic calculation here. one, people were tired of the border was not secure. they wanted a president who would do it. two, they want america to be strong or than china and russia, and they believe president trump have a better plan to do it. perhaps even more fundamentally, jesse, they wanted to pay less for insurance and food and for clothing and prescription drugs and for the things that their kids need most. they wanted protection from their own neighborhoods of crime and their kids protected from the hills of social media and even a crippling national debt. the president will be judged on these issues. the nonsense that we're talking about right now, the kind of pettiness that we demonstrated in some of these hearings -- and these are my friends, many of these democrat senators, some of them did fine but most of them i didn't sense there was any concerted effort, there was an understanding that the country is looking forward. any effort on looking backward only cripples us more.

let's look forward, get a plan, and work with the president where we can come and counter him where we think he is wrong. >> dana: katie, i don't understand something i read this morning. >> jesse: how do you i feel? [laughter] >> dana: kamala harris and her husband are looking at apartments here in new york. and yet everybody thinks she wants to run for governor in california. so what is happening? >> katie: i don't think they know exact what their future holds, but she did say i am not want to go quietly in the night, so don't worry about that. they are going to try and revive her in some way. i am interested to know if the democratic party wants her to leave because of the trump loss like they did with joe biden, just go away, want nothing to do with you, or if they are willing to try again. this would be like the 80 millionth revival of who she is, she going to be in new yorker after she was trying to be all these things and they tried to roll her out multiple times? i don't know. the fight isn't just between these top leaders of the party -- obama, pelosi, the

bidens -- it is there voters. left leaning, but so political people who watched what they did to joe biden, and even if they didn't really like him, they didn't like the process. they didn't like that he was taken off with little explanation and that kamala harris was instilled. you are seeing that with a lot of left-wing comedians being able to joke about it now. they have to figure it out, but they are going to try to roll out her p.r. once again and see if it works. >> dana: we will see. >> harold: on "saturday night live" -- >> greg: why are you looking at me? so racist, you expect me to know that because i am white? >> dana: really, harold, really. unbelievable. coming up, time is running out for tiktok. can trump save it? ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ >> greg: donald trump's racing to save tiktok from the chopping block, the president-elect boasts of having 14 million followers and designing an executive order to delay the ban or sale law that goes into effect in three days. it comes as american start flocking to another app controlled by communist china called red note, as in chairman mao's little red book. we were pretty vocal about banning the app because it was a chinese product that even the chinese wouldn't let them use, but then i discovered that you stole from the homeless. [laughter] and i thought that this topic is not as interesting as the fact that dana perino steals from the homeless. >> jesse: care to defend yourself, dana? >> dana: i don't even know if i should try. okay, the moral dilemma was this, if you're at a hotel and they have really nice toiletries, do you ever take

them, or robes, and now you probably can't, but way back in the day when i worked on capitol hill, if i went on a business trip for the church group, i would take the extra toiletries and we would give them to the homeless. i didn't take them from the homeless. why am i explaining this? >> greg: no, no, no, that is not the story. you were supposed to give the toiletries to the homeless, but you said you did and you kept them. >> harold: going to defend dana -- >> dana: you guys didn't understand -- >> greg: and it happened at watergate! >> dana: and i hope this gets on tiktok. a couple of things. there have been a couple of interesting deep dive reports on tiktok, the first talked about tiktok's algorithms, the second these audio recordings that tiktok and police say, talking to china. nobody was for banning the app. the app can exist. the ownership must change. that is what the congress said.

and i don't understand why that is so hard. why can't we just get someone to buy it like jesse? >> greg: you have elon, you have kevin o'leary that are interested, some of your buddies, mr. rich fancy pants harold. are we kind of hypocritical now? i feel like i am because i was raging against tiktok as a propaganda machine, and now i am going, not so fast. even i can admit when i am wrong, harold. >> harold: so dana nailed this. the problem is who owns it. we have -- nothing is in dispute about the data and the amount of data they have, really the information about all of the information this company has. is it in our national security interests to allow china to have access to it? that is what is at stake. mike waltz, i hope he will be confirmed and be great at nsa. he things the president can issue some sort of executive

order. the protestant cannot issue an executive order to overturn a law that has been passed by congress and signed by the president. what he can do is have congress overturn that law and signing new law, but the issue here, and everyone needs to understand, dana, you nailed it, this is not about -- i don't use tiktok -- but everyone has a right to do it. the problem is who owns that data? are we comfortable as americans had in china, the chinese communist party having that? i'm not. that is what congress said, he group of republicans and democrats passed it, a democratic president signed it, and the court is likely to weigh in on this tomorrow. i hope president trump, if he doesn't like it, than ask the congress and the senate to pass a law that overturns it. i will be curious to know which of those congressmen and senators are going to go home and say i believe it's okay for the chinese government to own all of this information about my kids, myself, my neighbors, and other great americans. >> greg: you know it's interesting, katie, about tiktok, is i think what had a bigger impact than tiktok was

liberals of tiktok. because we never -- tiktok has billions of users or hundreds of millions of users, all of these crazy people on there, and we wouldn't have known how crazy the woke got if it wasn't for liberals of tiktok going through and finding out this stuff. it has a greater impact than i think people realize. >> katie: you are saying we shouldn't ban it because lives expose themselves on tiktok -- >> greg: literally. >> katie: don't go to -- to the mechanics, it will get caught up in court and someone will sue and they're trying to give bytedance some more time, but the bottom line is they have to divest and they can keep the app but they don't want to divest because the chinese communist party gets all this information, and is a spy tool for a foreign government, a bad foreign government. >> jesse: i wanted to be owned by our government. the government that spies on us. the cia. we can't have china own it, we have to have the cia own it.

that is really the argument here. do you want to be spied on? your own government or the chinese government? and there is no way that joe biden was ever going to be able to get in the middle of this. trump the only kind of president who can do a deal like this, bring everyone together, and he is doing it before he is ele elected. >> greg: a ball or move for a ceo's to start working before your first day, you know what i mean? committed everything set up of every time i had a first day on the job, fired everybody the week before. because i like working alone. all right, we've got to move on. up next, trump and vance's official portraits are here. trump is on the left. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ >> harold: with just days until the inauguration, and the official portraits of president-elect trump and vice president-elect vance have been released. which one is president trump again, greg, you pointed it out? >> greg: on the left. one with the beard is vance. this is the reason why you should become president, and harold, we know you are destined

to run for president and win so i already had your portrait done. let's see, do we have it here? [laughter] that is the harold portrait released. i have a copy of it here, which i would like you to sign. >> harold: katie, on that no note -- >> greg: young, young. >> harold: what do you think of the vice president's portrait? >> katie: i want to know why you are not wearing an american flag. where is your tattoo? >> greg: a heart on your chest with "i heart greg" -- >> jesse: eating you alive. my god. do you work out? >> greg: it's amazing. >> harold: can we get back to the homeless -- >> dana: democratic candidates against you have no chance. >> jesse: this guy is a snack. >> d >> katie: gavin newsom -- >> harold: "one more thing" -- [laughter] ♪ ♪

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♪ it's time now for "one more thing," dana? >> dana: well, i have lost my sheet but i remember it was going it be about the people in britain. this is the day when you go on the subway and you don't wear any pants? >> greg: screw them. >> dana: do this every year in new york you do this every day. >> greg: where is daniel penny as you need him. >> dana: actually is he riding the subway. pantsless day in london. congrats. >> jesse: i was going to a knockoff on the wiener mobile poor taste following harold's graphic shot. we're not going to do that anymore. kid rock, "jesse watters primetime" 8:00 eastern. greg gutfeld. >> greg: i hope he wears his formal wife beater. tonight emily compagno, kat timpf, tyrus, awesome. let's do this.

>> greg: in your face, harold. yeah. here's something like harold that has a problem getting out of his shell. that's harold the loggerhead sea turtle actually a girl sea turtle rescued 30 years ago and still thriving omaha aquarium. deign cute. >> greg: serves as ambassador for the aquarium. >> jesse: scratch his back shell tickles. >> harold: happy 82nd wedding anniversary they met in high school 82 years later still married, three children, 16 grandchildren. 1 great grandchildren and two great, great grandchildren, congratulations. >> jesse: did they shave their chest? i don't think so. have great night, everybody. please take us off the air as soon as possible. [laughter] >> bret: i mean, jesse the presidential portrait of harold was kind of in my face tonight. than