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federal law enforcement were sent into a state in this case oregon, without coordination with the governor. those federal law enforcement officers at the time were putting down threats to federal buildings and they were legitimate threats. i don't dispute there was destruction of property going on during a bunch of protests and riots. i don't dispute that. but they weren't wearing insignia, not wearing any markings. people were arrested by folks in fatigues with no names, no idea who they were right out of a bad hollywood movie, okay? if the president asks you to send in federal law enforcement to a state without coordination of that governor, would you support that action? >> senator, the -- my job if nominated and sworn in as secretary of homeland security is up hold the constitution and
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the rules of this country. that will be the oath and pledge i will be making. my goal also is to work with you to insure that we have situations that are always appropriate, that we are well defined. >> you are a former governor. you can imagine if joe biden sent in 700 federal law enforce. under mayorkas without coordinating with you you would be upset. i ask you that give the same respect for coordination and that we just -- we are very sensitive. people are worried about politicizing of law enforcement and the unformed military. that's a bad thing i hope we can agree. lastly i will just say look forward to looking at the northern border, the gordey howe bridge, your help staffing that. we know right now across many administrations we haven't met staffing goals at dhs. we want to make sure it opens on time. i want your assurances.
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you received fema assistance from joe biden's administration, right? you had historic floods, you asked and requested of the administration and were given millions of dollars to help with that. i understand you don't like gavin newsom but can you say in front of the american people that you will open the books to this committee who does have oversight over fema, right? that you will give open the books in a bipartisan way whether it's north carolina, california or anywhere in between that the american people can know that you are not playing politics with disaster assistance. >> yes, senator, i will work with you and this commit eat to make sure i follow the federal law and insuring that you have information and transparency from us and dhs and fema. >> thank you, appreciate it. yield back. >> governor noem. great to see you and accept the nod the president has given you. thanks to both of you, you have walked through a lot. i have had the privilege of knowing you for a long time since we served together in the
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house of representatives. i have the benefit of knowing your qualifications and how strong you are in all these background issues and how hard you work on these things. i've seen it firsthand. i appreciate you stepping into this because a lot of attention across the country will be focused on this. you know that full well and you stepped in. for governor landry, my state and many folks in my state praying for you and your state. you have done a great job in leadership in a tough time for louisiana and we don't want to see acts of terrorism anywhere in our country. it is very difficult days for a governor. thank you for your leadership on that as well. i have to tell you, kristi. i wineed to my wife occasionally about the temperature on monday. excited about trump's inaugural but we will all sit outside in 12 degrees and i thought just for fun i would check south dakota on monday. it is one for a high. for a high.
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and so i will stop wining about the temperature monday here in washington, d.c. i will run through a couple of things here because i know you. not everybody in oklahoma knows you. the questions that i get from people, though, in oklahoma i want to be able to run past you because they want to be able to know the answer to these things. i'm going to blitz through a bunch of them. will you use the legal authority that dhs already has to be able to close our border? >> yes, senator, i will work with president trump to insure that we're securing our border. >> there are a lot of things this congress needs to do as mentioned by senator slotkin to close loopholes. but a tremendous amount of authority not being used. okla oklahomans are asking will it be used? no other president has created a phone app to process aliens in. cp b-1.
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will you use your authority to stop facilitating faster processing of illegal aliens into our country with the cbp1 app? >> we'll eliminate that app. maintain some of the data that's critical to know who is in our country that app will no longer be in use. >> no other president has used humanitarian parole to facilitate faster processing of aliens into our country that leads to the catch and release we've all heard about. the people i talked to say are we about to end the abuse of parole and end catch and release? is this about to stop? >> president trump has been very clear he will end catch and release. >> terrific. folks want to know will you use your authority with the funds that are given to you by congress to actually build more wall rather than use the funding that's given to you as the biden administration did to do environmental remediation around the border rather than actual border wall and border structure? >> senator, president trump has been clear that he wants to
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build the wall. >> so do we. will you use your authority to be able to scan more vehicles and obviously we have to get you the funding to be able to do this to be able to scan more vehicles and individuals carrying fentanyl into our country through our ports of entry? >> yes, senator, we will continue to use technologies but hopefully be able to use more with the resources that were granted to scan those vehicles and know what is coming in and out of this country. >> last year fema employees during disaster relief were instructed by one of their supervisors if they see a trump sign or a trump flag flying, to skip that house. to not stop by there and tell them what their federal government can do for them. will you allow fema employees or any in dhs to politicize their role and to pick and choose who gets help and who doesn't as an american? >> senator, under president trump ace administration, disaster and emergency relief
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will not be handed out with political bias. every american will be responded to and treated equally. >> that's what folks want to know. will you review the secret service responsibilities to be able to go back through it and to say are they focused on their primary mission or something that could distract? secret service still chases down financial crimes and child exploitation. those are serious things for treasury or f.b.i. to do. but there is a question as if that's the first priority for secret service? >> senator, the secret service is in need of dramatic reforms. they do have a protective detail element that is their priority. also an investigation side. my understanding is that that investigation side is often used to train the protective detail officer but clearly they are not focusing on what their true duty is and need to get back to what they were created for, the protective detail mission in emergency situations they need to plan and prepare for and
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defend. >> this committee made a request to the secretary of homeland security last year. also the head of the f.b.i. to be able to come before this committee and to do what every secretary of homeland security has done for the last 20 years every single year unbroken until last year. then the secretary refused to come before this committee in an open session and talk about national threats. now the former chairman protested strongly to the biden administration and dhs that they weren't coming but still refused to come. will you come before this committee and talk about the threats openly so the american people can hear them in a public forum? >> yes, senator, senator peters and i discussed this quite a bit in our meeting as well and i have committed to come and give that briefing to this committee and to the american people. >> thank you, we need that. let me tell you another challenge we've had with land
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security in the last four years. when we ask for data and information we get i'll get back to you on that. we ask again and again and again and we get the same statement. i can go down the street to the command center in live and have it on big screens tracking exactly what's happening on the southern border to the minute, but if i ask for what happened last month they will say we're still gathering what data. we're not asking for anything other than what congress is spoofsed to get. to have real oversight of dhs. that has been a failure along with multiple other issues. when we request the data for basic thing. how many special interest aliens across the border? it was 70,000 people targeted by this administration as a potential national security risk. that were not just found at the border, that were released when they were found at the border. 70,000 people just from last
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year in the country right now that this administration declared at the border they are a potential national security risk. i know you aren't going to do that. when we ask for the data and for the information, when we say how is the national vetting center working, do you have the connection to be able to screen individuals there? we're just doing our oversight responsibility. you have served in congress before and did a great job on that and did oversight. we want to still be able to do the same thing. will you provide data to this committee so we can cooperate with you to help? >> senator, i will follow the law and be transparent with you and allow you to do the due diligence towards oversight that you are tasked with. >> i have no doubt about that, governor. no doubt. looking forward to you serving in that role, thank you. >> thank you. >> well, congratulations, governor noem. you are almost done. we've been through a lot of questions and i think you've handled the questions very well and i will ask a couple of questions and i think the ranking members and we'll be
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done very shortly. i think a lot of americans, including some conservatives, misunderstand the first amendment. they think the first amendment says that facebook has to public my opinion or the "wall street journal" has to public my opinion or we need to force them to be fair. that's not what the first amendment is about at all. the first amendment really doesn't apply to telling private companies what we can't or can't say. youtube censored me and they took down speeches i made on the floor. i don't have a legal recourse other than i can complain about it being unfair and not hosting both sides of an issue. however, with the government there is a rule. the first amendment specifically says congress shall pass no law banning or abridging speech. this is what really got us worried about what not only the f.b.i. was doing but the department of homeland security. actually meeting with these companies on a weekly basis and imagine the chilling effect of this.
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imagine that there are cameras here that they are going to end their filming of this interview and then decide well, you know what she said or what he said really was misinformation and we should edit that out. can you imagine? it is hard for me to imagine that the media has not -- which once defended the first amendment, hasn't been in more of an uproar over the government meeting with the media to decide things. some of this we didn't know and then elon musk bought twitter. people asking saying you paid $44 billion for twitter. isn't that too much? he said i paid $44 billion to defend free speech and it has been an amazing service. not only to open up the forum to more viewpoints, but to point out what the government was doing. in this last week we heard from mark zuckerberg who said that the pushiness, coerciveness of government meeting with them was unprecedented and they pushed
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back but he also said worse than them just sort of telling him he should restrict speech they also threatened him. they threatened to come after him through antitrust law and threatened to remove parts of section 230 of the liability protection. just to imagine this bully nature of government and i know you are opposed to that. but if you are confirmed and you are in a position of saying we're just no longer sending people to meet with media and the way i describe it is to talk about constitutionally protected speech. some will say what about, you know, pornography or child trafficking? those are illegal. not constitutionally elected speech. will you tell us in america that you will no longer be sending government agents to meet with the media? >> yes, senator, i will work with you to insure that civil
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rights and liberties are ro pro tectied and we're not in the misinformation and disinformation space like the current dhs is. >> the only other thing i would ask on this basis we'll send requests. we sent requests previously, sometimes in often bipartisan request for information. the twitter files, michael shellenberger and others did a great job of showing what was happening in twitter and how they were cooperating with government. i think the other investigation that needs to occur is who were the people in government they were talking to. do they still work at dhs and can we make sure they are not in a position of authority? and this is not something i will tell you to do, just a request. that you have your own investigation, that you have people who work for dhs to say we are going to look for people who are bringing their political bias to work and trying to influence speech and restrict speech based on their bias and help us in rooting that out and making sure that these people
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never again have that responsibility, because i think that -- i don't think there has ever been anything like this as far as restriction of speech. i think the election is largely going to stop and tilt things the other way. will you help us by looking internally for those trying to inhibit speech? >> i look forward to working with you on that mission. >> i don't have any other questions. we'll see how it goes. start with senator peters with one more five minute round. >> i will be fairly brief. we have had opportunity to talk at length about many issues and again i appreciate that, governor. i just want to stress going forward and we've heard a lot of comments here. i think there has been a fair amount of political theater. not as much as exists in other committees and i've always striveed and chairman paul share
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the notion we want to be a fact-based committee and try to find tangible solutions to the tough problems that we face and date that is important. we've heard a lot of numbers being thrown around here. i don't think that's helpful to the very important mission if confirmed that you will be dealing with. i hope in the future we're dealing with facts. you mentioned many times you want to deal with facts and real data. again, we heard a lot here that's not real data and we should not operate that way. if confirmed when we move forward i will look forward to working with you based on the facts. understand where the real threats are. how we need to appropriate resources to meet those threats and let's take the partisanship out of homeland security. we have way too much partisanship in this country and it's resulted in a polarization of people here.
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we have to come together as this country. we have to lock arms and understand we're all proud of americans, we all want to do what's best for the american people and solve the issues so that are before us. in that spirit and you have communicated that spirit to me. in that spirit i hope if confirmed that is exactly what you will be bringing to this office. and let's move away from this toxic political environment that we have in the country and celebrate what's great about our country and the spirit of bringing the american people together. i have one question before we turn it over to other members. as a member of this committee as well as the armed services committee i focused a great deal on the safe integration of drones in our airspace while addressing the growing threats that drones possess. we certainly see what drones are doing in changing the face of warfare whether in ukraine and other battlefields around the world. we're very concerned about the
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weaponization of those drones and what it could mean to the security here in the united states. i have proposed comprehensive legislation to extend authorities beyond just the f.b.i. and d.o.j. and homeland security to local law enforcement. you mentioned in your comments about security for the super bowl, which is incredibly important. we have to remember that that threat exists for all games. in fact, one of the biggest supporters of my legislation is the nfl. in fact we had a recent playoff game that was delayed because of drones that flew into that playoff game. we're very concerned that you could have a drone with a grenade or explosive device that would be catastrophic. it is absolutely essential that we address this threat. what we're seeing around the world and what we're seeing in daily activities should be a concern. i think this is just a matter of time. it is not if, it's when. and we need to be on the front end of that. and with that in mind, i want to
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remind folks that congress just recently extended critical counter uas authority and counter drone authority for a short-time basis for the 12th time. we do the tiny short term extensions and we aren't dealing with the problem comprehensively as we should. they will expire march 14th. a short time from now. my question for you, governor, is if confirmed -- >> you have been watching a packed week of confirmation hearings wrapping did. you've been watching live the homeland security secretary kristi noem facing questions. if confirmed she will play a crucial role in implementing trump's border security agenda. this is "the faulkner focus" and i'm sandra smith in for harris. here are some of her opening remarks. >> we must vigilant and pro-active and innovative to protect the homeland. the challenges in front of us are extremely significant.
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and we must secure our borders against illegal trafficking and immigration. as secretary i will enhance our emergency preparedness and strengthen fema's capabilities and we'll insure that no community is left behind. i will oversee the secret service, an agency in serious need of reforms. >> sandra: ron johnson. >> how do you gain control over a massive agency whose resources and personnel have been misused? >> that is the question i get asked the most. why would you want to head up such a dysfunctional department? i would say because the mission of the department is to secure the homeland and our people. our biggest vulnerability now and we have a president not enforcing the law. i don't believe the law should be uniquely applied. the morale in dhs is low. i will let people do their jobs
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and remind them what their jobs are. >> sandra: facing multiple questions on both of america's borders. >> if you are confirmed would you deploy additional full-time personnel and upgrade equipment along the northern border? >> i definitely will be working with you to insure our northern border is adequately resourced as well. >> is the the southern border secure as we find it today? >> senator, no, the southern border is not secure today. but in just three days we'll have a new president in this country, president donald trump and he will secure our border. >> sandra: chad wolf former acting dhs secretary under trump joins us now. great to have you on. there is no doubt this is a massive undertaking, taking over this department. is she up for the job? >> oh, with no doubt she is up for the job. it is a big department. a lot of different responsibilities. we saw and heard a few of those. immigration and border security, getting control of the border
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will be mission one not only for the secretary but for the president as well. there is a lot of work to do to undo the damage of these past four years. it doesn't stop there and we heard the governor talk about cybersecurity, we heard her talk about fema, we heard her talk about secret service. the department is big, sprawling and needs good leadership and has that with the governor. >> sandra: the president-elect has promised that these changes will happen day one. so this is going to be a massive effort that she is taking on. the "new york post" reads like this. the headline. talking about dems' grandstanding through trump nominee hearings. cheap shot politics is all they have. a sample of some of what we have heard in their questioning. >> what circumstances will you prosecute journalists for what they write? >> are you prepared to advise the president not to pardon people who beat police officers? >> will you say no to the
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president of the united states when he asks you to do something unethical or illegal? >> i assume that in each of your weddings you pledged to be faithful to your wife. you have taken an oath to do that haven't you? >> have you ever made unwanted requests for sexual favors or committed any verbal or physical harassment or assault of a sexual nature. have you ever made unwanted requests for sexual favors or committed any level of physical harassment or assault of a sexual nature? have you ever made unwanted requests for sexual favors or committed any verbal or physical harassment or assault of a sexual nature? soon >> sandra: critics popping off on hirono for that line of questioning. this person saying this lady has issues. another, what is wrongs with dems? they're sex pervs, one more hirono is deranged. how would you characterize the
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line of questioning we all just heard? >> it is odd coming from a sitting senator when you have a number of nominees before you. the american people want a change in policy but they want the federal government to really get their hands around a lot of pressing issues that are facing the country and this is an opportunity. these confirmation hearings to hear from these nominees and hear from the senators. instead they are taking cheap shots at these nominees asking them about personal life and other things. let's ask them about the issues. what will they do to secure the border? what will they do to make us energy independent again? what will they do when they get intuit critically important positions for the betterment of the american people. time and time again when the democrats have had a chance to dig into those discussions they choose not to do that. instead they go for the cheap political sound bite question that again i think most of the majority of americans, certainly the ones that voted for donald trump, are just waving these off saying more of the same from d.c. we want to hear about the
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issues. >> sandra: senator andy kim asked noem how she plans to work the tom homan. >> who will you work with mr. homan? i'm trying to get a better sense of who is in charge. will he be giving orders directly to cbc, ice, uscis. >> he has a direct line to the president and advisor to the president, the border czar. i obviously will be if nominated and confirmed and put into the position of being the department of homeland security secretary and responsible for the authorities we have and the actions that we take. we'll work together on a daily basis when we're in our positions under the new administration and i would say there is no authorities being planned to be taken away from the department or myself if i'm in the role. >> sandra: tell us how you see that question. fair question, chad? a massive under taking. tom homan has been promising
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change day one. it will take a lot of really effective and efficient communication. >> i think that's right. it is a fair question. tom homan is a professional at it for decades. he knows ice, cbp and knows the border and to have that type of voice next to the president and white house is a benefit. the secretary or incoming secretary is exactly right. the authorities, budget line control resides with the secretary in her unique statutory responsibilities. so it will be up to her and her team to execute the vision that tom and others lay out whether it's the deportation plan or securing the border in general. it will have to be a close relationship. i think the incoming secretary is right. daily communication but at the end of the day it will be her responsibility to make sure that the operations, implementation is effective across all elements of the department. the buck stops with her.
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>> sandra: getting ahold of more resources that will be needed. the roll backs of d.e.i. sweeping corporate america have now hit the f.b.i. they announced it shut down its dei office last month and no explanation as to why. republicans have long been critical of their d.e.i. policies saying it undermines national security. senator marsha blackburn said the question is why were they allowed to be focused on d.e.i. in the first place? the f.b.i. should be focused on catching criminals, not winning participation trophies. they know enough now to shut it down. well, didn't they know that then? why did they allow it to continue as long as it did? >> well of course they did. if you ever wanted to know the answer to the question is do we allow politics to come into our national security agencies and departments? this is a perfect example. d.e.i., right? they know it's detrimental and
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the incoming president doesn't like it and decide to shut it down. if they really believed that it advanced the mission there at the f.b.i. and others, they would keep it in place and talk to the incoming administration. i think they know what president trump and his team knows, that it does nothing to further the mission of the f.b.i. and other departments across the federal government. i think that's why you are starting to see this not only in government but in the private sector as well. you see private corporations shutting down d.e.i. initiatives because it has become so divisive but not contributed either to the mission if the federal government or to the bottom line if it's to those private corporations as well. >> sandra: always good to talk to you. thank you so much. >> appreciate it. >> sandra: supreme court held up the tiktok ban. can one of america's most popular apps be saved? plus the israel/hamas cease-fire
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and hostage release deal moving forward. congressman mike lawlor says one thing matters the most right now. >> i think it was clear to everyone involved that the hostages need to be released and so while it is not ever perfect in these situations, i think it was paramount that we get the hostages out. >> sandra: after some hurdles benjamin netanyahue conveneed his cabinet today. we're waiting final approval from the full israeli government.
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platform. it is now blowing up with the ban. >> there is just no way you can ruin that many jobs, livelihoods, careers, advertising because you are afraid of chinese disinformation. i am more worried about american government disinformation at this point than the chinese. >> sandra: his take. alexandria hoff reporting on that out of washington for us. >> i think many here in washington would say it goes beyond disinformation, the national security issues here. the consensus among parties in d.c. reacting to the ruling is tiktok's china based owner needs to sell. a political debate who is to blame if tiktok goes dark on sunday? josh hawley weighed in. >> for months now beijing has refused to entertain what i understand are multiple offers, substantial offers to purchase tiktok from all kinds of different people. it doesn't have to be owned by an american company but by a
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company that is not subject to beijing's control. >> bytedance and chinese communist masters had nine months to sell tiktok. it is a communist spy app. the supreme court -- what they did today is side with congress and bipartisan legislation that china divest from tiktok. a group of democrats tried to extend the deadline. that effort was blocked. >> congress must appropriately balance those risks with the serious hardship imposed on tiktok's 170 million american users and the unintended consequences of a nationwide tiktok ban. >> the thing, no realtime for legislation to stop the sunday
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deadline. mike waltz confirmed to fox news the president-elect has been working behind the scenes with tiktok ceo to try to preserve it. he is set to attend monday's inauguration and spending $50,000 on an influencer focused inauguration party. the president-elect has been or was a tiktok critic for quite some time. then won over on the campaign trail. once again president biden says that he will not be enforcing this ban on his last day in office. >> sandra: alex, thank you. meanwhile the israel/hamas cease-fire appears to be back on track after hurdles. israel's security cabinet approved the deal today and forwarded it to the israeli government for formal approval. netanyahu urged government ministries to prepare for the release of the hostages. israel's united nations
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ambassador with this. >> we will bring them home, all of the hostages and then we will not allow hamas to control gaza. we know if hamas will stay there, it will be dangerous to israel and no future for the palestinians in gaza. >> sandra: mike tobin is live with the latest out of tel aviv for us at this hour. hi, mike. >> we're standing by. at any time now we could get word the israeli government has approved this cease-fire hostage release deal. it could ultimately lead to the end of the war. once the government approves it. it doesn't need to go before the full knesset for approval. as early as sunday afternoon we could start zoo see phase one. the release of four israeli females held in hamas activity. over the period of 42 days we'll see some 33 israelis released from gaza captivity. in exchange 1,000 palestinians
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will be released. the exchange rate is roughly 30 to one. 30 palestinians for every israeli hostage released. 50 palestinian prisoners released for each israeli soldier released. phase two involves releasing the male israeli soldiers extends for 42-day period. phase three involves exchanging the dead and reconstruction of gaza. netanyahu does face some opposition for this cease-fire deal. the hard right party promised to leave netanyahu's coalition if the deal is approved. that doesn't threaten his hold on power. he will maintain a small majority if that party does leave. also if it does appear that netanyahu is in some trouble politically there are two left wing parties that will join his coalition. the parties hpromised to join t keep the ship afloat for the
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purposes of seeing the cease-fire through. >> sandra: mike tobin with the latest out of tel aviv. president biden continues his legacy burnishing tour which was his last interview as president. how history will look at his term after his party suffered brutal election losses and president trump won the popular vote. >> we're at the end of this four years of a failed presidency. we have failure across the board whether it's in foreign poll syracuse with war breaking out all over the globe. domestic policy. the willful opening of the border. horrific economic situation. they'd love to buy gold. but because it's gold, they think it must be complicated. it isn't. not with rosland capital. with rosland... the entire process from start to finish is built on one concept. one... keep...it...simple. rosland capital a trusted leader in helping people acquire precious metals.
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>> sandra: california officials facing scrutiny because of the wildfires that burned through los angeles county. 27 people killed. 31 more are missing. many are trying to understand why available additional resources and personnel were not deployed before the fires erupted. officials warned that the consequences would be dire. >> i'll make a bold statement. i'm not scared and say what people can't say. if we cut one position, if we close one station, if we close one resource, the residents of los angeles are going to pay the ultimate sacrifice and someone
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will die. >> sandra: cuts of some $17 million to the fire department's budget have put a harsh spotlight on the city and state's democratic leadership. l.a. mayor karen bass and governor newsom insist they're cutting red tape to make rebuilding easier for victims. william la jeunesse is in malibu. too early for some to discuss but we have to get there eventually. >> sandra, this is where that rhetoric will meet reality. we're on the so-called wet beach in malu. you can only use the beach when the tide is out. this was packed with homes wall-to-wall for several miles, right? houses built in the 50s and six 0s. california's is the regulatory capital. no one knows that better than the mayor and government who suspended the environmental laws saying the wait times and
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regulations would not apply but only to those who lost homes in the fire. >> we are going to clear the red tape and unnecessary delays and costs and headaches. >> one thing i won't give into is delay. >> red tape, bureaucracy, all of it must go. >> we'll do it efficiently and effectively. >> that sounds great to brian goldberg who lost his home off coast highway, 19 acres. evacuated horses, and animals and a wife. today's building codes make that economically unlikely to rebuild. >> if i get 2 1/2 million from the insurance company is enough to rebuild what was here the way it was. certainly not enough to upgrade the waterlines, the driveway, the foundation, septic. >> so in the septic is important. those new -- suspending of the rules will not apply to the
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building codes which include higher floor plan because of rising sea levels. deep cement case instayed of wood pilings. driveways 20 feet wide and the biggest issue is a larger septic system requiring sea walls and light all adding millions to the cost of rebuilding. >> everybody is going to be in for sticker shock. there are a lot of people out there who will not be able to rebuild because they can't afford it. >> the point is, sandra, the woolsey fire in 2018, six or seven years ago, only 30% of the homes have been rebuilt. 20% are under construction. a lot of people left. reasons for that. this won't be quick or easy. back to you. >> sandra: safe to say, william la jeunesse on that for us out of malibu. thank you. >> president biden: ironically, i almost spent too much time on
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the policy and not enough time on the politics. what i'm worried about is the thing that keeps it on track are the guardrails of the presidency that says you have limited powers. you are the top dog but you can't dictate everything. i got a lot of criticism. understandably. we've invested more in red states than blue states. red states really screwed up in terms of the way they handled their economies. >> sandra: president biden taking a shot at president-elect trump and g.o.p. led states. it was a friendly interview despite something blaming him for losing the presidency and senate. sizing up his legacy one calls his time in office the most radically left wing and
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polarizing presidential tenure in a century. another says the absence of disaster is not a major achievement. a third called his term a failed presidency. shark tank panelist and kevin o'leary with this. >> i think we should give respect to the first 46 years of the work and what he gave to the country. unfortunately his legacy is tainted by the last four on metrics that everybody is going to remember for a long time. i don't think they'll forgive joe biden. it will be tough. he tainted his family name. >> sandra: fox poll finds biden leaving office with one of the lowest approval ratings of recent presidents. meantime 56% say they are confident president-elect trump will do a good job. power panel tiffany smiley founder of endeavor pack and former republican senate candidate and david carl ukey, former senator.
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a lot of momentum behind president elect heading toward inauguration day. is there a lot of hope that he will be able to fulfill some of these big promises to voter >> joe biden can't whitewash the last four years. the american people felt the effects and there was a mandate that was sent down. there is hope. sandra, joe biden is leaving with one of the lowest approval ratings of any president in recent history. it is important to note that 78% of americans actually feel that their children's lives will not be any better than theirs and why donald trump won. i am excited. i think there is finally hope for this country that, you know, policy -- joe biden was talking about policy. policy should make -- good policy should make everyday americans' lives better. that's not what happened. gas prices are 30% higher, average american has lost nearly
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$33,000 over the last four years. there is great hope in the economy that president trump will unleash american energy independence, put more money no americans' pockets. give our children a future and hope in this country that their lives will be better than ours. >> sandra: david, i want to get you in here. a lot of talk about who will be the leader of the democratic party especially over the next several years. vice president harris says she for her part is not going anywhere. >> i'm not going to go through the laundry list of all of our accomplishment. we know what they are. you all know me. we have spent long hours, long days and months and years together. it is not my nature to go quietly into the night so don't worry about that. >> sandra: she says she is not going anywhere. harris isn't overwhelmingly viewed as the leader of the democratic party. polling shows 29% of voters say they don't know who the party
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leader is and 19% say nobody, just 10% of voters said it was kamala harris. what say you, david? >> yeah, i think look, the polling is right. it is not clear who the leader of the democratic party as was the case when donald trump was leaving the white house. when the party is not in the white house, that becomes a question that is open to interpretation. is it the head of the dnc? is it the leader in congress? the highest ranking person? i don't think so. i think it is a multitude of characters that make up that mantel of what is the democratic party. i think now in this climate you have new, fresh faces that are rising on the scene. >> sandra: give us one. >> well, kamala harris obviously being the vice president, being the democratic candidate will have what she says i think people will pay close attention to. and will definitely be seen as a leader moving forward. >> sandra: we'll take that.
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meanwhile, democratic strategic james carville criticized senator john fetterman for clashing with his fellow democrats and meeting with president-elect trump. how dare he. >> he is like i'll do everything i can to get as much publicity as i can and run this thing as hard as i can until my term is up to 2026. i think the guy is like -- he is desperate to get attention. >> is he up in 26? i thought it was 28. >> 22 and six, it is 28, sorry. >> sandra: you think there would be some democrats out there saying that fetterman is showing them the way. >> it shows the democrats -- democrats clearly have not learned their lesson. if they were smart they would be rallying behind fetterman. he knows that president trump won pennsylvania and the
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american people are ready for good policy to affect their daily lives and willing to get to work with republicans. democrats should follow his lead actually if they want to win any time in the future. as it stands i applaud fetterman and he is showing our country the path forward. >> is james carville talking about himself or fetterman? talking about he only wants publicity? i think that's nonsense. i think fetterman is doing the right thing to reach across the aisle and we need more democrats to do the same. >> sandra: i was surprised his name didn't come up. who are some of those leaders? thank you so much. tiffany and david, thank you. chat again soon. quick update on monday's inauguration. fox news confirming the swearing in for president trump and jd vance will be moved inside from outside inside the u.s. capitol due to frigid temperatures expected on monday.
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