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>> will: if you could see where i am now, i would take a tiny horse to fit in the studio right now. a pony wouldn't fit next to me. >> judge jeanine: vincent chickens. >> will: i don't have chickens. not yet. >> jesse: we are really proud of you. you are a great guy, real smart guy, and the show is going to be great, and everyone is looking forward to it. i was kidding about all the graphics packages. >> greg: you feel pretty bad now. >> jesse: i don't want to take it out on "jesse watters prime time." congratulations. great job. >> judge jeanine: we love you. >> will: thank you. dana, greg, jesse, judge, jessica, thank you so much. have a great show. appreciate you. >> jesse: hello, everybody. i'm jesse watters along with judge jeanine pirro,
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jessica tarlov, dana perino, and greg gutfeld. it is 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." ♪ ♪ president trump is kicking butt and taking names that he turbocharge as america into the golden age. any moment 47 will be making a massive infrastructure announcement at the white house, nai project name stargate. president trump hitting the ground running as he ruthlessly wipes away the stench of joe biden's awful record. so far he has purged over 1,000 biden appointees. >> the decision of 78 biden-era executive actions, executive orders, presidential memoranda, and others. [cheers and applause] the requirement that federal workers return to full-time in-person work immediately. [cheers and applause] withdrawal from the paris climate treaty.
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[cheers and applause] >> jesse: the guy is also on an executive order rampage, roman colosseum style. maga fans roared at the capital one arena as trump sat at a desk on stage, pen in hand, churning out orders on gender, dei, the tiktok band, and ditching the paris climate accord. and he was loving every second of it, tossing pens into the crowd like he was launching t-shirts from a cannon. the liberal media just can't handle this much. >> he has decided to make good on his promise to be a dictator on day one. >> they will be a lawsuit over birthright citizenship, a lawsuit over suspending asylum. if it is not broke, don't fix it. severe stomach. >> there were a lot of big lies there. >> for a grand total of 11 hours, and he wasted no time enclosing his will. think of was awful. >> present, migrant shelters, as well as spaces like rape
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shelters. that means people who are transgender could be moved out of those spaces. >> jesse: judge jeanine, we did a little research. i was expect people to laugh when i said that line. [laughter] the amount of executive orders on day one for biden or obama, there's a couple. this was a testament to how well he was prepared going in. >> judge jeanine: first of all, when you listen to those left-wing progressive hosts and talking heads, do they not understand what happened on november 5th? do they not understand that everything the president was talking about as he signed those executive orders where promises that he made during the campaign? that he said he would do it and that he is in the process of delivering? do they not understand how unprecedented this country is in terms of the border disaster, in terms of the lack of law and order? what it means to get this country back on track? i mean, joe biden was probably,
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to me, one of the worst president in history. he allowed an invasion of the border, they shut us up for two years by saying we are xena films and we don't want other people coming into this country, therefore don't say it's an invasion. that's exactly what it was. they were unvented, they came in, they committed crimes. we are not allowed to keep numbers on them because secretaries of state and other state officials will not give us that information. and now what you got are these people saying it's terrible, and jeh johnson saying if it's not broke don't fix it? is the border not broke? is law and order not broken this country? and let me just say, i love a president who can go from church in the morning to all kinds of ceremonies, and inauguration, and then go to the arena, sign these orders, and then go to every ball and be out there and be responsive to the press and invite them into the oval oval office. like, this is my home, come on
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in, i'm signing laws for you. they are crazy on the left. >> jesse: speaking of, jessica, we will go to your next pay what is your favorite, if you had to pick one, executive order? >> jessica: my favorite as a democrat? or my favorite as an american? >> jesse: i don't see why you should. >> jessica: there is some partisanship going on in all of this. >> judge jeanine: so it's un-american? >> jessica: to some degree, of course. there is some consensus to be had in this. like, the back to work policy, that will penalize some people who i think have a legitimate reason to need to work from home, and hopefully they'll be able to make their case, whether that's taking care of a loved one, they maybe moved during the pandemic and are still doing their job effectively. but i think it's a good thing that people are in their office. i think that makes sense. i think some of the dei programs went too far, and everyone has accepted that in the public and the private sector.
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you have a huge surge of roles in companies large and small after the murder of george floyd, and a lot of them have quietly gotten rid of them even before it was clear that donald trump was going to win again. so i think we can talk about things like that. you can even talk about the letter ev mandate. all the automakers who share the same aspirations and goals as former president biden has said we're not going to make our targets, so obviously we need to reassess that to some degree. but when the judge says this is what the people voted for, some of it they absolutely did not, and donald trump promised he would bring costs down right away, and he revoked biden's policy to lower prescription drug prices were to make it so medicare can't negotiate itself for prescription drug prices. that's not cool. >> judge jeanine: where was that? >> jessica: look in the list. see if you show me. >> jessica: what do you mean? did the american people on november 5th vote for 1660 afghans were being resettled
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here, have gone through the government process, people who helped us during the war in afghanistan, worked as translators, risking their lives, people on target list for the taliban, they had their flights canceled -- >> greg: the answer is yes, they did vote for it. yes, they did. sorry, trump did not hide any of this from anyone. >> judge jeanine: and that's the difference. >> jessica: you guys sat here and argue that the afghanistan withdrawal was one of the worst atrocities in foreign policy, that we left people behind, not on the american members and americans who are still living -- the ones he passed away tragically in the limbs were still living, but the people that helped us for years during that war. and now you say it's fine that their flights are just canceled? >> greg: i didn't say it's fine, i'm saying americans voted for it. that's a difference. i don't have to say it's fine. i'm just telling you the rea reality. >> jessica: did you vote to rebuild birthright citizen for children of people here illegally?
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>> greg: do you understand what that means? tell me about it. tell me what birthright citizenship meant. >> jessica: i think when donald trump was talking about and disparaging people living here, he's talking about undocumented people who come and drop their anchor babies, not people who are here on student visas, people here on h1b visas. >> greg: you're always going to choose the weird exception. the fact is the system is being gamed. americans voted for donald trump because they saw the systems, these institutions, being gamed. the asylum issue, the birthright citizenship issue. >> jessica: address what i'm saying, though. >> greg: title ix issues. everything the part of society was being gamed by the left, and finally americans got pushed too far. the point is you don't have to like anything in a restaurant to like the restaurant. there are things -- i go to a restaurant, i don't eat any seafood but i like that restaurant because it's got steak. there are things that trump will do that i will disagree with, but the entire package is as close as you're going to get to what americans want. trump is redefining basically
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what a human being can do in 24 hours. it's incredible. he did more in a day than biden did in his damn career, and is exhausting. he had three balls last night. that is three more than adam kinzinger. the guy hasn't slept in two days. the thing is, it's amazing, it's possible -- it is possible donald trump could complete his presidency in three months and then he could just say, you know what? j.d., you take it from here. i think i did everything i could do. it's incredible. by the way, you said it was a good thing, the fact that these people have to go to work, but then you mention all the challenges they have. well, welcome to america. every single one of us has a challenge, but yet we come to work. i'm not going to pay for their porn addiction. nt to sit home in front of pornhub and say they have chronic fatigue syndrome,
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everyone in america could stay home because they have a sick lead i or baby. but they're not. the coming to work. they should go. i'm glad they got rid of appointees. i need work around the house. i pay well. i'm not done. i've got to bring up the nazi hoax thing. we all know this is b.s., and yet the media is redefining losing every single day, day one. they say elon musk made a nazi salute, and i'm beginning to think, they know they are lying, so why do they do this? because they realize they cannot rebuild their credibility. there like a fat guy on death row. what's the point in dieting? you're already dead. >> jesse: looking forward to that last meal. dana perino, your thoughts? >> dana: i want to add a couple things. one of the things president trump was doing was not create a new policy. he is getting rid of policies that biden had put in place that people said they didn't want. ending dei, 70% said they
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supported that. and ending the easy mandate. finishing the border wall and deportation, 70%. they might not have gotten there without joe biden's broken border policy. that might have been a lower number, but that's where they were on election day, getting men out of women's sports, that was like an 80/20 issue, maybe even more. so it wasn't so much, here is a brand-new policy. it was like, here's all these things you said, america, he did not like for the last four years, and i'm going be able to make it better. >> jesse: like greg said, you don't have to like everything on the restaurant menu. you just have to like a few things and you will patronize the place day after day. >> jessica: i will not spend my money! [laughter] >> jesse: we'll see about that. president trump expected to speak at any moment from the white house. up next, what a difference a president makes. president trump holds court with the media. ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ >> judge jeanine: president trump is expected to speak at any moment now from the white house, and thank god our freewheeling president's back. after four years of press dodging joe biden, president trump had no problem mixing up at the media, casually chatting for over an hour in the oval office while he signed one executive order after another. watch. >> does biden ever do news conferences like this? how many news conferences has he done like this? >> like this? zero.
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did president biden only do a letter? >> he may have. don't they leave it in the desk? i don't know. oh! >> was that there? >> thank you, peter. it could have been years before we found it. wow. thank you. maybe we should all read it together. well, maybe i'll read it first and then make that determ determination. peter, thank you very much britt i may not have seen this for months. >> judge jeanine: even the liberal media had to admit how refreshing it was to have a president who can speak. ceco actually think it is refreshing for presidents to be -- i mean, i was among those who were critical of the lack of exposure of president biden, and i think it's good her presidents to be exposed -- it's better they tell the truth when they're doing it. >> judge jeanine: okay, greg. i'll start with you.
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i mean, you got david axelrod there saying it is refreshing to see the president do a presser while he actually signed these executive orders. he can actually walk and talk. i'll bet he can climb stairs, too. >> greg: just to see how hungry the media is -- i leave that to you, dana. what's amazing about him, this is a facet of a transparent persona. i think this is why his critics don't like him, because he doesn't have a problem putting himself out there. he's completely at ease with just saying whatever he wants, because he is almost genetically incapable of embarrassment. he is not frozen in his fear of saying something stupid, and it has been an inspiration to people like me and others, because he's willing to share the risk, say something outrageous, see what he thinks, because what's the worst that could happen? let's just see what happens. i don't know. i'm going to talk a little bit about famous people. jesse, one day you'll get there. there are famous people who hate
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being among the public. they talk about the challenges and the struggles of the same. i wish i could be anonymous! i wish i could just be rich and anonymous! with nec 7070 like bill mary. you are asking for a selfie, he will sit down and serenade you. >> trump could retreat into a protective bubble like biden dead, but he doesn't. you could say it's because he loves attention. i disagree. i believe he chooses to love the attention because it's better than hating it. there's a difference. he's chosen to avail himself to the world and refuses to whine about it. he doesn't have to do this. i get exhausted watching him, you know? that's it, i'm done. i'll see you guys later. >> judge jeanine: all right. [laughs] jesse, when he's in the oval office, he brings the press in and it's like he's bringing
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the press and america into his home. it was incredible. no hiding, no intermediaries, no picture cards. so different from the guy who would just walk away, shake his head, and be condescending. >> jesse: the first term, he was the social media president. now he's the podcast president. he sits at an executive desk, he's got his big fat black sharpie, his stack of papers, and he brings the media in, and that's it. that's all you need, and you will see that probably for the rest of this term. biden was like the letter president. he actually wrote a letter to the american people. one of his final act. no one read it, no one cared. biden didn't even read it. it just shows you how different these people are. as old as he is, he is more modern than almost any of those young reporters covering him. >> judge jeanine: here is president trump in the roosevelt
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room. >> president trump: thank you very much. it is an honor to be here today. the first full day as president. we are back, and we had a great first term, but we are going to have an even better second term. i think we are going to do things that people will be shocked at. they are starting with tremendous investment coming into our country, at levels noby has really ever seen before. we are very happy with the fact that i won the race, and they feel confident in their investments, and it is big money and high quality people. so my first day back from having a nice life, it is my honor to welcome three of the world leading technology ceos. in the case of larry, larry ellison, well beyond technology.
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sort of the ceo of everything. he is an amazing man, an amazing businessperson. but to announce the largest ai infrastructure projects by far in history. it's all taking place right here in america. as you know, there is great competition for ai and other things, and they are coming in at the highest level. we are joined by oracle executive chairman larry ellison, softbank ceo masayoshi son, and ceo of openai and i would say by far the leading exn everything i read, sam altman. so it's great that you're coming in together. that is a massive group of talent and money. together these world leading technology giants are announcing the formation of stargate.
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so put that name down in your books, because i think you're going to hear a lot about it in the future. a new american company that will invest $500 billion, at least, in ai infrastructure in the united states, very quickly, moving very rapidly, creating over 100,000 american jobs almost immediately. this monumental undertaking is a resounding declaration of confidence in america's potential under a new president. i didn't say it, they did. i appreciate that, fellas. it will ensure the future of technology. what we want to do is keep it in this country. china is a competitor, others are competitors. we want to be in this country and we are making it available. i am going to help a lot through emergency declarations, because we have an emergency. we have to get this stuff built. so they have to produce a lot of
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electricity, and will make it possible for them to get that production done very easily, at their own plants, if they want, where they will build at the plant, the ai plant. they will build energy generation, and it will be incredible. but technology and artificial intelligence, made in the usa. immediately, stargate will be building physical and virtual infrastructure to power the next generation of advancements in ai, and this will include the construction of colossal data centers, very massive stru structures. i was in the real estate business. these are big, beautiful buildings that are going to employ a lot of people, and physical campuses and locations currently being scouted nationwide. they are making their choices of locations. i think they have their choice. i would like to ask larry, sam, and masa to say a few words and
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talk a little bit about what they're doing. if you have any questions, then we'll go into a couple of other subjects, also. this to me is a very big thing. $500 billion, i think the stargate project is going to be something very special. it will lead to something that could be the biggest of all. so, larry, maybe we'll start with you and go down the line. thank you. seek a thank you, mr. president. we certainly couldn't do this without you. it would simply be impossible. ai holds incredible promise for all of us, for every american. we have been working with openai for a while and with masa for a wild. the data centers are actually under construction, the first of them are under construction in texas. each building is half a million square feet. there are ten buildings currently being built, but that will expand to 20, and other
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locations beyond the abilene location, which is our first location. the kind of application that we are building, to give you an idea, maybe the most charismatic and the one that i think touch is us all, electronic health records. not just maintaining electronic health records, but by looking at electronic health records, understanding the condition, doctors better understanding the condition of their patients and being able to provide health care plans that are much better than they otherwise would be. a doctor in the indian river reservation would be able to see how a doctor at memorial sloan-kettering would treat the patient, or a doctor at stanford would treat the patient. we actually provide all of that information, all of that guidance to the doctors who are treating cancer patients or any other kind of disease, made possible by ai. i'm not going to take a lot of time.
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i'm going to pass it to masa. but this is a very exciting program for oracle to be part of. thank you. >> [laughs] >> that's good. that's great. i feel tall now. [laughs] thank you. well, mr. president, last month i came to celebrate your winning and promised that we would invest $100 billion. you told me, "oh, masa, go for $200 billion!" now i came back with $500 billion. because this is, as you said yesterday, this is the beginning of the golden age of america. this is one great example, i think. we decided to do this. this is the beginning of a
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golden age. we wouldn't have decided it unless you won. yesterday we agreed to make this happen. because of this. so we would make this happen and immediately start deploying $100 billion, with the goal of making $500 billion within the next four years, within your term. because of your success. so we are very, very excited to do this, and a partner is of course softbank, openai, oracle, and additionally an investing partner mgx. on top of that we have the technology partner nvidia and of course microsoft has been very, very supportive to san and
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continuing to support all our success. this is not just for business. as larry said, this will help people's lives. this will help solving many, many issues, difficult things that otherwise we could not have solved. with the power of ai. i think agi is coming very soon, and that's not the goal. after that, artificial super intelligence will come to solve the issues that mankind would never ever have thought we could solve. well, this is the beginning of our golden age. thank you very much. >> i don't have too much to add, but i do want to say i am thrilled to get to do this in the united states of america. this will be the most important project of this era and, as masa
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said, for agi to build here and create hundreds of thousands of jobs and create an industry centered here. we wouldn't be able to do this without you, mr. president, and i'm fairly we'll get to. i think it'll be an exciting project and we will get you all the wonderful things these guys talked about. but the fact that we get to do this in the united states is, i think, wonderful. so thank you very much. >> president trump: what it's going to do for medical research and for solving things, cancer, all the different problems. how will ai help us with the fight against the various problems, diseases, et cetera? speak of these guys can maybe share more about some of the work they are doing there. i think they will jointly be some of the leaders driving progress here. but i believe, as this technology progresses, we will see diseases get cured at an unprecedented rate. we will be amazed at how quickly we are curing this cancer and that one, and heart disease, and what this will do for the
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ability to deliver very high quality health care. the cost, but really to cure the diseases at a rapid rate. i think that will be among the most important things this technology does. >> we are currently working on that all right. no, no. i'm not that tall. [laughs] >> you look even better now. >> thank you, mr. president. one of the exciting things we are working on, again, using the tools that sam and masa are providing, is a cancer vaccine. it is very interesting. it turns out -- i'll be quick -- all of our cancers, tumors, little fragments of those tumors float around in your blood, so you can do early cancer detection. you can do early cancer
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detection with a blood test, and using ai to look at the blood test, you can find the cancers that are actually seriously threatening the person. so we can -- again, cancer diagnosis using ai has the promise of being a simple blood test. then, beyond that, once we gene sequence that cancer tumor, you can then vaccinate the person, design a vaccine for every individual person to vaccinate them against that cancer, and you can make that vaccine, that mrna vaccine, you can make that robotically, again, using ai, and about 48 hours. so imagine, early cancer detection, the development of a cancer vaccine for your particular cancer, aimed at you, and have that vaccine available in 48 hours. this is the promise of ai and
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the promise of the future. >> president trump: just one second and we will finish up. these are highly respected guys. i was shocked with larry, because i don't think larry even does this stuff. he did a very good job for a guy who doesn't do that much, right? but he is a respected in the group, and it is really an ho honor. but for larry to be here and do this is very unusual, because he doesn't do this stuff. he doesn't need it. and you don't need it, do you? you don't need it. i think it is an honor to the country. it is a great honor that this group -- these are the top people. they're going to do it, and the going to do it here, and we are going to make it as easy as it can be. the $500 billion stargate
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project comes in addition to a separate pledge between $200 billion, as we know, from masa, that we talked about before, also $20 billion. they are so highly respected, i would rather do it this way. many would like to do it this way, that we are letting the world know what's happening. this is money that normally would have gone to china or other countries, in particular china. in total, who were the end of my first, business day in washington and the white house, we've already secured nearly $3 trillion of new investments in the united states and probably there's going to be six or $7 trillion by the end of the week. tremendous amounts of money is coming in for other things apart from ai. ai seems to be very hot. it seems to be the thing that a
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lot of smart people are looking very strongly, and our country will be prospering like ever before. it's going to be the golden age in america. as i say, yesterday we had the most ambitious action-oriented day of any administration in history. there's never been a first day like yesterday, as you know. i signed a sweeping slate of executive orders to stop the invasion of our borders. i launched a governmentwide effort to defeat inflation and bring down the cost of daily life, and bring down the cost of energy, magnificently bring it down. and when energy comes down, generally speaking, everything else comes down. the prices of food and everything else come down. energy is the big baby. and we just let a national energy emergency to drill, baby, drill, a term we use. we are going to drill, baby,
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drill like never before. we ended district of dei mandates across the federal government and returned our country to a merit merit-based m and a common sense system. the supreme court gave a decision on merit, things in this country can be based on merit now instead of a lot of different rules and regulations and things that really put our country had a big disadvantage. we permanently stopped government censorship and restored free speech. that was signed yesterday. we renamed the gulf of mexico the gulf of america. sounds so beautiful, the gulf of america. and returned the name of a great president, william mckinley, to mount mckinley. they took off the name. and he was actually a great president. he was a very, very successful businessman. he ran for governor of ohio, he won, did a great job as governor. ran for president and he won. he was assassinated ultimately in his second term,
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unfortunately. but he was the tariff king. i'll think he was as bad as i am. i think i believe in them even more than him, but he believed in them very strongly, and he raised massive amounts of money. our country was at its richest from 1870 to 1913. that was when we are the richest, relatively speaking. we were the richest agreement. lack of time. that was tariffs from other countries, an organization moving with unprecedented urgency and speed to confront every crisis facing us, it will get the job done. i want to thank sam and masa and larry for being here. it's an honor to have them. and we will take a few questions. >> reporter: you would agree it's never acceptable to assault a police officer? >> president trump: sure. >> reporter: so among those you pardon, one who drove a stunned dumb extend into the neck of an officer, why does he
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deserve a pardon? >> president trump: i don't know, was it a part in? because we are looking at commutations and pardons. we will take a look at everything. but i can say this, murders today are not even charge. you have murders that aren't charged, all over. you take a look at what's gone on in philadelphia, take a look at l.a., where people murder people and don't get charged. these people have already served years in prison, and they have served them viciously. it's a disgusting prison. it's been horrible, it's inhumane, it's been a terrible, terrible thing. i also say this, you go to portland, where they shot police officers, nothing happened to anybody. you go to seattle where they took over a big chunk of the city and people died. portland, a lot of people died. wait a minute. and also take a look at minneapolis.
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i was there and i watched it. if i didn't bring in the national guard, that city wouldn't even exist today. people were killed, and nobody went to jail. so these people have always served along. nick of time and i made a he's done like these are criminals that he gave a pardon to. you should be asking that question. why did he give a pardon to eopd crimes? why did he give a pardon to the j 6 unselect committee when they burned and destroyed all documents which showed that they did what was wrong, not me? wait a minute, wait a minute. why did they get a pardon to all of his relatives? brother, who made millions of dollars. all these different people. he gave pardons. that's the question he should be answering. go ahead. no, no. that's enough. go ahead.
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>> reporter: tells that a meeting with speaker johnson and senator flynn. did you reach any conclusion? >> president trump: pretty much. i think you have a good situation now. it has been in some ways made simpler by los angeles, because they're going to need a lot of money, and generally speaking i think you will find that a lot of democrats are going to be asking for help. so i think maybe that makes it more one-sided. i think you're going to do very well. we are going to take care of los angeles. i'm going there. i'm going to north carolina, which has been abandoned by the democrats, and i'm going to north carolina very importantly first. i will be there on friday. and i'm going from there to los angeles. and then i'm going to nevada, and i'm going to nevada to thank them for the vote, because we won that overwhelmingly, and that usually a democrat vote. i just want to go there to thank the people of nevada for the big vote. so we will be making -- yeah, please. >> reporter: the leaders of the proud boys and the oath keepers were freed following the pardons yesterday.
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at the time, back in 2021, you urge them to stand back and stand by. is there not a place for them in the political conversation? >> president trump: we have seen. i thought their sentences were ridiculous and excessive. one of the guys took down a flag that was an anti-american flag, and he was given years in jail. i don't know the exact number, but he was given many years in jail. thought it was very excessive. at least the cases we looked at, these were people that actually love our country, so we thought a pardon would be appropriate, yeah. >> reporter: is also true in your conversation with republicans today that you asked them to consider appointments or cabinet officials? >> president trump: if it's needed. i don't think it's going to be needed. marco, as you know, got passed overwhelmingly with 99-0, which is pretty amazing. marco is going to do a great job as secretary of state. but he just got -- i guess he was the first one, just got
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approved. 99-0, and that nothing was a vote he would have gotten if we wanted to do it, but you know who's vote that was cannot who is doing a great job right now as vice president. >> reporter: a trade or a deal involving wildfire release -- >> president trump: what i want to have done -- i was talking about this with the guys back in the oval office. los angeles has massive amounts of water available to it. i'll have to do is turn the valve, and that is the valve coming down from the pacific northwest where millions of gallons of water a week and a day, even, in many cases, pours into california. it goes out to california, down to los angeles. they turned it off. it is off now.
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it turns toward the pacific ocean and all of that water goes pouring into the pacific ocean. if they did what i told them to do -- they wouldn't do it because politically they didn't think it was good. i think it's great politically. i think they are dead politically. what they've done, they destroyed the city. what they've done to that city is unbelievable. there are sprinklers like these right here, none of them had any water in them. they didn't have any water. 40% of the fire hydrants had no water. the brush was dry, everything was dry. the sprinklers on the lawn weren't even allowed to be used, so everything was dry and there was an inferno. they created an inferno. so we are demanding that they turn the valve back toward los angeles right now. it's not even believable that they haven't done it. just so you know, they have a valves, and it is turned. think of a sink, build multiply it times many thousands of times the size of it. it is massive. and you turn it back toward los angeles.
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why are they doing it? they either have a death wish, they are stupid, or there is something else going on that we don't understand. but we want the water that they are throwing away to be used for california. and that didn't lose the farmers of california. when you drive up north you see all the land. i couldn't believe it. i was with devin nunes when he was a congressman, and some other congressman from the area. we were driving up, we were on the highway, and i keep looking at these farms in the land is bone dry, and then you see about an acre or 2 acres with the most beautiful green plants growing, the most beautiful you have ever -- it is rich stuff, and you look at the soil and it is so rich. that soil is almost the equivalent to like, iowa. it is phenomenal. it's got no water. but the reason it has no water -- i said, do you have a drought?
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no. i said, what do you mean you don't have a drought? it is dry as a bone. the reason you had like an acre is because they say you can farm 1 acre but no more, because they didn't want to waste water. but they throw the water into the pacific ocean. these people are crazy. so we are going to be issuing an executive order demanding that they immediately let that water come down through california. farmers, even people living in beverly hills. a lot of them are wiped out. believe it or not, they were having restrictions, larry. you know about this. they wanted to restrict you to 38 gallons of water a day. that sounds like a lot, but it's not. when you are a rich person, you like to take a shower. 38 gallons doesn't last very long. and they have all this water, and it's really good water. up high, pacific northwest. some comes in from canada. a nice country, by the way. comes in from canada, and it comes all the way through
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california, and they are restricting it. even the half pipes, the cut pipes. big ones, bigger than this room. they go all the way down, and they are bone dry, and they could be loaded up with water. but isn't it incredible that they don't do it? and it is to protect the delta smelt, a fish doing poorly anyway. how are you protecting the delta smelt by not giving it water? it is a fish. it needs water. no one can answer that question. let me do this first. >> reporter: are you open to elon buying tiktok? >> president trump: i would be if he wanted to buy it, yeah. i'd like larry to buy it, too. i had the right to make a deal. the deal i'm thinking about -- larry, let's negotiate in front of the media. the deal i think is this. i've met with owners of tiktok. the big owners. it is worthless if it doesn't
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get a permit. it's not like you can take the u.s. the whole thing is worthless. with a permit, it is worth like a trillion dollars. so what i'm thinking about saying to somebody is buy it and give half to the united states of america, and we'll give you the permits. and they'll have a great partner in the united states, and they will have something that is actually more valuable because they'll have the ultimate partner, and the united states will make it very worthwhile for them in terms of the permits and everything else. so think of it, you have an asset that has no value, or has a trillion dollar value. it all depends on whether or not the united states give the permit. so what i'm saying is that the united states give the permit and the united states should get half. sounds reasonable. what do you think? >> sounds like a good deal to me, mr. president. >> president trump: he can afford it, too. >> reporter: you are a president who has long said back the blue, but aren't you sending the message that assaulting
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officers is okay with these pardons? >> president trump: no, the opposite, in fact. i'm going to be letting two officers from washington police, d.c. -- i believe they are from d.c., but i just approved it. they were arrested, put in jail for five years, because they went after an illegal, and i guess something happened where something went wrong, and they arrested the two officers to put them in jail for going after a criminal, a rough criminal, by the way. i am the friend of police more than any president that has ever been. >> reporter: more than a hundred people you pardoned assaulted officers. j.d. vance said -- this was a week ago -- he said if you committed violence on january 6th, obviously you should not be pardoned. why is your vice president wrong? >> president trump: only for one reason. they have served years in jail,
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they should not have served -- excuse me. they have served years in jail, and murderers don't even go to jail in this country, and we've had 1500. the f-16 under review. we can mutate about 16 of them because it looks like they could have done things that were not acceptable for a full pardon. but these people have served years in jail. their lives have been ruined. in many cases -- listen to me for a second. stop interrupting. they served years in jail, and if you look at the american public, the american public is tired of it. take a look at the election. just look at the numbers in the election. we won this the public is tired of people like you that are just one-sided. horrible people in terms of crime. you don't talk about all the people that have been killed, and what happens to those murderers. murderers get no time. you look at some of these das,
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they go after political opponents but they don't go after people that she people in the street. they are caught, they know where they're living, they know everything. they don't even go pick them up anymore. they let them live there. they know all about it. they had their pictures, the tape of the shooting, and they don't even go up -- and you are talking about this. no, we pardoned people that were treated unbelievably poorly. in the history of our country there has never been anything taking place like this. they are still looking for them but they're not looking for the murderers, the people who are killing everybody. we are, though, and we are getting them out of the country. we are getting them out of the country. they are going to be gotten out of the country saas. he came in illegally from jails and prisons. they killed many people. some of them killed many people. about 50% of them killed more than one person. they were released into our country. that is what we are focused on, not the kind of nonsense you are talking about. >> reporter: you called for a
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cease-fire in ukraine. if vladimir putin doesn't come to the table to negotiate with you, will you put additional sanctions on russia? >> president trump: sounds likely. >> reporter: do you think the war should be frozen currently -- >> president trump: the war should have never started. if you had a competent president, which you didn't, the war would have never happened. the war in ukraine would have never happened if i were president. but that couldn't happen because the election was rigged. go ahead. >> reporter: there's been debate within your orbit over whether or not to eliminate or keep each 1b visas. do you want to keep them? >> president trump: i like both sides of the argument but i also like very competent people coming into our country, even if that involves them training and helping other people that may not have the qualifications they do. i don't want to stop. and i'm not just talking about engineers. i'm talking about people at all levels. we want competent people coming into our country, and i know the program very well. i use the program. maitre d's, wine experts, even
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waiters, high-quality waiters. you've got to get the best people. then you go into people like larry, he needs engineers, and masa needs -- this gentleman needs engineers like nobody has ever needed engineers. so we have to have the quality people coming in. now, by doing that, we are expanding businesses, and that takes care of everybody. so i'm sort of on both sides of the argument, but what i really do feel is that we have to let really competent people, great people, come into our country, and we do that through the h1 program. >> reporter: are you going to impose tariffs on canada and mexico in an effort to force negotiation sooner on usmca? >> president trump: no, not on usmca. it has nothing to do with that. they have allowed -- both of them come to canada very much so, they have allowed millions and millions of people to come into our country that shouldn't be here. they could have stopped them,
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and they didn't, and they have killed 300,000 people last year. in my opinion, they've been destroyed by drugs, by fentanyl. the fentanyl coming to canada is massive. the speech and coming through mexico is massive creative people are getting killed, and families are being destroyed. the sun gets killed and the family is a basket case for the rest of their lives. i have seen mothers that thought they would heal. they never healed. they say it gets worse with time. it gets worse with time. they lose their boy, they lose their baby, they lose their young daughter to fentanyl poisoning. and i had that talk with president xi the other day, too, of china. i said, we don't want that crap in our country. we have to stop it. i had a deal with him where he was going to give the maximum penalty, which in china is the death penalty, for drug dealing. it was all set.
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he was going to give the maximum penalty to fentanyl dealers if they send to the united states. they'll get the death penalty. and of course biden didn't pick that up. i had that deal all done. it was all wrapped up. we were going to have it done, and then the election went -- let's put it nicely, it didn't go the proper way. i'm trying to be nice about it. it was rigged. and we had an incompetent president elected and he never followed up on that deal. but he should have followed up, because if they got the bit to my death penalty they wouldn't be sending fentanyl to mexico, , and other places. we are talking about a tariff of 10% on china based on the fact that they are sending fentanyl to mexico and canada. >> rep probably february 1st is the date we are looking at. for mexico and china we are talking about approximately 25%.
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>> reporter: are you planning to travel soon? >> president trump: we are thinking about going to the middle east. not yet. i think all the hostages are coming back, going on right now. they are coming back. some of them have been very damaged. you look at the young lady with her hand practically blown off. you know how that happened, right? when you find out, you're not going to be too happy, because it was terrible. but the hostages are starting to come back. if i weren't here, they wouldn't be back ever. they would have never come back. they would have all died. if this were done a year earlier, if biden would have done this deal a year and a half, two years ago, or it -- frankly, it should have never happen. october 7th should have never happen. nobody should be dead. but through weakness they allowed it to happen, and it was a disaster from there. let you go back to six months ago, many of these young people
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were living -- you know, young people don't die like that. they are just dying, and young people aren't dying at 22 and 23 years old. they don't die, but now they are dying, and you wonder why they are being and they killed, but they say six months ago you would have had 11 more think of months ago. but biden couldn't get it done, and it was only the imposition that i put on as a deadline that got it done. but it is a very sad situation. it should have never happened, i'll tell you. two things should've never happened. three things. inflation should have never happened. it would have never happened except for what they did to energy and the crazy spending. and ukraine would have never happened. never. by the way, russia never would have gone into ukraine. he disrespected biden. very simple. he disrespects people. he is smart.
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he understands. he disrespected biden. and also the middle east would have never happened because iran was broke. they had no money. they had no money for hamas. they had no money for hezbollah t would have never happened. october 7th would have never happened. but it did happen, so this is the cards i have been being kild but that was what was happening. >> keep sending weapons to ukraine or are you going to turn off the tap soon? >> well, we are looking at that we are talking to zelenskyy. we're going to be talking with president putin very soon. and we'll see how it all happens. we're going to look at it -- one thing i do feel, the european union should be paying a lot more than they are paying because under biden, i mean, we're in there for $200 billion more. now, it effects them more than it effects us. we have an ocean in between, right?
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a little thing called an ocean. the european union should equalize. we are in there for $200 billion more than the european union. i mean what are we stupid? i guess the answer is yes. they must think so. the european union takes advantage of us tremendously on trade and always have. if i didn't get involved years ago my first term. one of the first things i noticed is that they are not paying enough. they are not paying. a lot of those countries weren't even paying, the nato countries, only seven out of 28 were paying. we were one of them. and poland was one. and they had a few of them that were paying. some were paying very proudly. usually they are closer to the borderline of russia. they were the faster they paid. okay? the ones that were further away tended not to pay so fast. and one thing on that. i think they should lift their number. not the 2% but to 5 berms, nato should be at 5% not at 2%.
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2% is ridiculous. >> u.s. president xi in your conversation about ukraine. you asked him to get involved. >> you ought to get it settled, because he is not done very much on that. he has got a lot of power like we have a lot of power. i say you ought to get it settled. we did discuss it. products benefit you pcially while you are president. >> i don't know benefited. i don't know where it is. i don't know much about it. i launched it. i heard it was very successful. i haven't checked it. where is it today? >> you made a lot of money, sir. >> how much? >> several billion dollars it seems like in the last several days. >> several billion? that's peanuts for these guys. [laughter] >> can you talk about the letter from president biden. >> yeah. he wrote me a nice letter. did i open it last night. and i didn't know peter said did
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you get the letter? i said wait a minute, let's see. it's sort of a tradition. you put it in the drawer. especially the beautiful resolute desk. >> right? and i opened the drawer. there it was said to number 47. and it was a very nice letter. i could show it because i think it was a nice letter. maybe i will. [inaudible question] >> basically it was a little bit of an inspirational type letter, you know. enjoy it. do a good job. important, very important. how important the job is. i may -- i think it was a nice letter. i think i should let people see it because it was a positive for him in writing it. i appreciated the letter. >> mr. president, for security concerns at all a factor when you decided to move your inauguration indoors? >> not at all. it was just cold. i just went out to the helicopter ride to -- we said goodbye. that's a tradition

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