under the law rather this manufactured idea of equity that joe biden invented into the federal government. >> martha: brandon talked about is this morning, an attempt to play it, he said they were spending millions of dollars promoting it. the larger part is, the president wants to return it to hiring people based on merit and increased the black and hispanic voter for his candidacy this time around, your thoughts? >> which by the way this is the way most americans want to get back to, also reemphasizing the supreme court decision in racial preferences judgement. >> martha: "wall street journal", thank you so much, that is the story for this wednesday january 22nd, stick around, ??? is coming up next. ♪ ♪

>> will: one key promise made, one key promise kept. i am will cain and this is "the will cain show". president trump told us he will end d.e.i. in america. >> president trump: i will illuminate all diversity, equity and inclusion programs across entire federal government. you will terminate every diversity, equity and inclusion program. day one i will revoke joe biden's crazy executive order installing diversity, equity and inclusion czars in every federal agency and terminate all staffers hired to implement this horrible agenda. >> will: now he is doing it. one hour at 5:40 o'clock eastern time, federal agencies must start closing all d.e.i. offices and put those employees on paid leave. as we start getting back to

merit-based opportunity, let's go to peter doocy at the white house. peter? >> it is now less than an hour until all those federally can -- controlled d.e.i. offices will be closed, or at least empty because all of the workers will be placed on paid leave and all of their websites and social media pages have to be by 5:00 taken off-line. president trump is explaining this -- this issue, he writes in part, these illegal d.e.i. and d.e.i. k policies threaten the safety of american men, women and children across the nation, it is based on merit and determination when selecting people for jobs and services in key sectors of american society including all levels of government, medical, and law enforcement communities. prior administration saw 16 million taxpayer dollars for

diversity training in 2023 alone, we do not know what the trump team plans to use with a million set aside for those priorities, the only trump cabinet member to confirm so far sent a note to a beauty that works for the state, the secretary of state, marco rubio, instructing all u.s. outposts around the world, there are hundreds, they can no longer fly things like the blm flag or the pride flag there. they can only fly american fl flags. will? >> will: incredible peter, help us understand a sense of expectation of the vigils later, will there be employees walking out with the boxes having cleaned out of their offices, former d.e.i. agents walking out of the buildings? >> somebody has to go and turn off the lights and lock the door, i do not think it will happen en masse, these are normal huge offices but they did have a huge impact at the -- as

the president described, hiring practices and staffing with the federal government. this does not only apply to private businesses, -- does not, at least not yet, you receive trump puts forward something that is more about blanket law for all employees in the country. right now it just applies to people he can directly control and that would be federal workers. >> will: have to ask you about monday night, that must have been found, 60 minute freewheeling q&a session from the oval office as president trump signed executive orders pulled my attention away from ohio state and notre dame, what you were into the room directing him to the letter signed by joe biden. you must have felt incredibly different from how you were doing your work for the last four years? >> i did not really cover the first trump administration so all that i knew was the biden way of doing things, you go into

the oval office and have a staff or they call a wrangler because they basically wrangle members of the press and photographers, yelling in my face, thank you press, no questions! and then the president goes to the chair near the fireplace just smiling trying to pretend he cannot hear us. [chuckling] until we are all gone. it is totally different. something remarkable that this president did today. on monday night just out of complete curiosity i asked him about this biden letter and he does is a big dramatic reveal, opened up the desks and drawers, did not take it out, maximum suspense. this afternoon i had a chance to read the letter, think one of the only people that has not been elected president that has held this letter in my hands and it was as advertised, an inspirational message. in short -- but short.

and president biden i can report has very hard to read cursive handwriting. >> will: [chuckling] that is understandable. the letter that you revealed earlier today was classy from the former president biden i thought it was an incredible display of confidence from trump to take any and all questions and think out loud of the answers. cannot wait to see the work you do over the next four years. thank you. i did not think he could overstate the importance of donald trump killing d.e.i., actually believe that d.e.i. could have killed america. my big three takeaways, number 1, president trump, the end of d.e.i. in a language calling back to civil rights. from america's founding, growing through the civil rights era, we had a focus on the individual. through character and ability

and on your superficial characteristics. it is inspiring to hear president trump right, illegal d.e.i. policies not only violated the spirit of our civil rights laws but also undermine our national unity, you do not, discredited and denied the traditional american values of hard work and individual achievement in favor of an unlawful identity based system. brings me to number 2. d.e.i. is it cancer. it is a cancer that destroys merit and it pits the american people against one another. we are a one people, we are not people broken up into different tribes, and if we instituted a policy that forces us into our tribes based upon our skin color or whatever the current ideology may be, it could end america. this kind of language is a kind of thing that is a cancer. >> why do we have d.e.i.?

we have d.e.i. because you denied us diversity, who denied as equity, you denied us inclusion. >> did not ask is a black americans denying them equal access to education and housing the benefits which is why we do not have generational wealth. do not talk to me about merit one of those black servicemen fought for our freedoms. >> donald trump same thing, this country would be a meritocracy? you're talking about a man who did not become the president of the united states because of merit. he had no political experience whatsoever, no business experience, he was given everything, he is a legacy higher, if anything he is a d.e.i. higher. [applause] >> will: she gets it wrong about donald trump at least she stumbles upon and eventually the nature of d.e.i.

finally it is not a talking point. it is not simply a culture war flag it is historical fact that d.e.i. is rooted in marxism. you soviet union from its inception pitted its own people against one another on of the basis of class, and embarked on a date gets longer project his friend that across the world dividing the people on any possible line. luckily that has failed. "the wall street journal" wrote like everything based on the writings of karl marx, singh to the struggles everywhere, d.e.i. was doomed to fail. thankfully d.e.i. appears to have failed because they would have failed america. is the clock ticks closer to the 5:00 p.m. d.e.i. crack down, let's bring into the host of the rubin report. great to see you. want to start with this question when it comes to d.e.i., are you

concerned it will be buried in other federal departments and the private sector under a different use in his them, a different name? >> -- euphemism -- >> i think it evidence that d.e.i. is a dying,'s and will cain, is straight white man getting a new tv show on fox news, diversity, equity and inclusion are officially dead friends and i congratulate you on the new gig it is well deserved. look at it is 5:00 somewhere, about a half hour plus these people will be leaving their offices and i was thinking as you were talking to peter doocy, what would they be walking out with? you may have files that say this person is black and this person is white, and whatever else it may be, but it is not going to harm of the federal government in anyway that all of these people are going home. i was sad to hear it is paid leave apparently, i don't know how long that will last.

but think how different that would be if the federal government said firing a whole bunch of engineers or electricians, or even janitors, then there would be an actual granular difference because those are the types of people that do real things. to directly answer question, candy always hided in another way? of course it can, their social emotional learning which we hear a lot about in schools which seems to be their new way of ushering in some of the woke stuff as it pertains to kids in elementary and high schools, that is one portion. but planed that look of al sharpton and the angry hysterics, he is on a grifter that without racism he has to go home. does not have that show on msnbc, they do not put him on tv without perceived racism. these people will always push this nonsensical stuff? what you said in your points there was absolutely right, nobody and it is a renewed

america, just watch what days ago, cares about this stuff. if you are confident, if you're a good person and a hard worker, do you will succeed. that is why all of our ancestors came here and that is what is being reignited right now. that is why i am so excited about where america is headed. >> will: a little under 40 minutes until this clock sets on d.e.i. the theme of donald trump throughout his years in office was the deep state that was against him, one of the first actions of what he has been doing so far appears to be dismantling that permanent washington. he put this on truth social he fired over 1000 people, he said my personal presidential office is actively in the process of identifying and eliminating thousand appointees that are not aligned with our vision to make

america great again. it seems he is in on this project to take it down a permanent washington. >> yes, i'm not the first person to say this is a very different donald trump then walked into the white house eight years ago. he is battle scarred quite literally, and this time i think he has assembled the right team to go into there and do what we elected him to do. if you listen to mainstream media or crazy people on the view, i don't recommend people do it and we played their clips to make fun of them, this idea that donald trump is coming to end with this idea of retribution. but alike was -- what donald trump has said four and i hope you continues to said, that revenge will be success. is that he has to go out and try to find every person in -- that said anything bad about him, the revenge is that america's thriving and it is because you got rid of you people.

that really is. i am very happy with virtually all of the nominations and i look sick basically will get through which is great, anything they have a clear this time around. it is hard for people to remember, when he got there eight years ago not only was the world different but he was different, i don't think any of us really realize how deep that deep state thing was, whatever you want to call it, the swamp, how those tentacles were in every part of our institutions. this time trump is coming in and he's barely president for 48 hours and he is firing people and bobby kennedy said, he's gone into hhs for major reform, you will higher 200 some people and a lot of people have to go. >> will: it has been said personnel's policy and he is addressing personnel through these d.e.i. initiatives and firing people who had been there permanently and do seem to add

no value to washington. this is a new direction. always great to see you, thank you for the well wishes. >> great to see you. >> will: it's been two days and president trump has spoken to the press twice and now he is sitting down with our own sean higgs. >> let's talk about the moment he walked into this office to this desk, this room, your carpet, how do you feel? >> president trump: it was a lot of work and as you know i felt we should not have had necessarily be here, could have been done, a lot of work, we would not have had inflation, we would not have had a good job or seventh, would not have an ukraine award. with all that said i think it is bigger -- four -- more traditional. >> second time in history

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democratic colleagues across the aisle, the laken riley act would have saved it laken riley's lives, it merely directs dhs to detain illegal aliens on american territory, this should have been the easiest bill the democrats take, all congress, get to the majority voted against it. whenever i think of cause for bipartisanship, i think the macon peeples said republicans and it trump to washington to save this country, i do not believe in bipartisanship for the sake of a bipartisanship, i believe in saving this country. a hope they come across the aisle and work with us. >> will: pointing out, 63 votes missing, like john fetterman. we will see how that is treated in the house. congressman, i would like to understand the details, they tell us the details of this bill

would have saved the life of laken riley. what he think of the illegal immigrants who have committed a crime and to their home country, that is a problem as well, criminals coming in from chile to this country. i notice it difficult to get their records when they are here illegally they can help stop people who committed crimes before they get to america? >> congratulations on your new show, exciting to have you on this hour. president trump always set from the beginning we need to secure our border, i live in arizona, we understand these illegal immigrants are pouring in from the southern border especially the last four years. and what biden did by allowing some of the illegals from venezuela and all of those countries come again, it put our country at risk. now with this new laken riley act it will not allow these illegal immigrants with criminal records to seek asylum. the abused of the asylum process were too long and in arizona we

understand the effects of the border, we have fentanyl coming in from the communist chinese, drug cartels at president trump is planning to go to war with, now with a terrorist organization. it is the war that we have to fight is to secure our country from the drug cartels. >> will: stopping them before they get into the country at the very least not release criminals once they are detained here. this is all step forward. only to ask both of you, you are both younger than me, early 30s, both new congressman, part of what many are calling the youth movement when it comes to the republican party, college campuses everywhere. in my lifetime conservatism has not been cool. now all of a sudden, i do not know if you two are cool, i will let the audience decide that over time by you or part of what "the wall street journal" writes, is a rise of young republicans on college campuses. when donald trump was first elected president, college

graduates but are medical and cookies, wart maga has an were braided bike classmates, now they are getting fist bumps and nods. do you see a shift in people your age and younger when it comes to conservatism or simply patriotism? >> absolutely, young people like the rest of this country can see the difference between what republicans and democrats have to offer, the choice was simple, it was censorship or free speech, it was inflation or economic prosperity, it was men and women's bathrooms, locker rooms and common sense. it was siding with innocent israeli citizens or terrorists, and younger people wanted as same country, he wanted common sense, they wanted decency, that is why the moving in droves to the american party. we're here to save the country and work through the american

people and put america first, that is what all americans are looking for. >> will: very quickly congressman hamadeh, is a part of the list rattled off by brandon gill it is the voice of masculinity not as toxic but as a virtue? >> absolutely. i started in the u.s. military, i am a veteran, as he saw under the biden administration of the recruitment was terrible because they were focused on d.e.i. when i was overseas under both president trump and biden, the secretary of defense lloyd austin's first action was to have a standing order so, so wtf right-leaning extremitism. nice he trump allowing to the service member is discharged owed during -- during in. masculinity is the back, i always say, it is amazing we have to talk about these issues like men and women's sports, it's like we are bringing sanity back and i am excited. of the american people or with

as and younger people understand a lot better than people think. >> will: eight thank you for your service, i wish you luck in your new service for this country. thank you for being on "the will cain show". abba next guy going to backlash over this pastor's comments to president trump. >> there are gay, lesbian and transgender children and democratic, republican and independent families the whole fear for their lives.

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>> will: that's a branca and fox and friends weaken cohost charlie hurt. first of all, so excited to say that officially fox and friends a weekend cohost you will be awesome charlie. >> thank you and congratulations on the show. my favorite thing is your reporting from america. >> will: thank you, hopefully in touch with america. on that note we talked about this bishop yesterday and i pointed out how inappropriate it was to sermonize politics. but i would like to move beyond that, something else strikes me, she's actually somewhat symbolic. this is something that has happened, the local virus is not just infected government and sports and other aspects of american culture, it is also infected the church. >> yes, i think it is such an important point, in a lot of ways it has infected the church

where is than anywhere else, or at least it is the worst place it can infect. you can see in the numbers, had been part of the church for 20 years and you're wondering why people have fled the church, this is exactly why they have fled. you have politicians who dress themselves up in these silk robes and continue to be politicians and they are bad politicians, you have the president of the united states coming into a church to be prayed for and this is what he has to listen to? some stupid political rector from some politician who could not succeed in the real political world? the other thing that i think is shocking is if you want to get down into the details, she is politicizing on behalf of a party of a candidate who managed to somehow hand anywhere from tens of thousands to hundreds of

thousands of children from foreign countries over to drug cartels and human smugglers, that is what -- that is what she's arguing on behalf of! to a guy that is trying to do everything you can to solve that kind of human misery. it is not only terrible in the world of god, what is even worse as a politician. >> will: it is true that tolerance and empathy are virtues that we seek under the guidance of god but sows righteousness, righteousness is what we should seek. on that note of cliches charlie, yesterday was standing, elon musk is being accused of doing a pro nazi salute. it was an awkward gesture that elon musk gave where he was suggesting the crowd has filled his heart but i did not stop

them from doing the same thing which is a yell hitler, watch. >> yes that salute to be have seen it through history. it was quick, i think our viewers are smart and they can take a look at that but it was certainly -- out at american political rally? >> no it is not something we usually see the one it was not just a salute, and he also did it twice for emphasis. anybody, historians, people who study this nazi, will be very clear, -- study that streammac. he should not only apologize but be condemned for those actions. gross but what we can expect from elon musk and donald trump. >> will: this thing is that these nazi experts have nothing but tuesday. kicking off again in columbia

you can see students protesting, writing, anti-israel protests at times, pro hamas. that is happening on columbia university. really concerned about elon musk but not this anti-semitism. >> it is interesting, if i were to list all the important evidence that you do not actually care what anti-semitism is that you're willing to use it as an attack to advance your own political interests which of course is exactly what they are doing the two attacker elon musk as they are completely silent about true anti-semitism across the country on college campuses. >> will: to stick with it, it really worked for you over the last four years. charlie hurt will be on fox and friends weekends, thank you charlie. >> thank you. >> will: it is a story making a lot of headlines, president trump pardoning creator, similar to what paul pushed forcing the

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>> will: email have seen this story today, so we decided to dig in a little bit more, president trump signing a pardon

for ross ulbricht the crater of a dark web marketplace called silk road. he was arrested back in 2016 after they revealed his side was used to sell illegal drugs like heroin and hacking equipment and stolen passports. six overdoses linked to the drugs on his side, for this he received a two life sentences plus 40 years, senator rand paul has been pushing for his pardon say he was shocked by the harsh sentence, rand paul joins me now. thank you for being with us today, as you know and for anybody watching president trump has granted ross ulbricht this pardon. tell me why this was important and something you fought for, why was it important to? >> i have always been a believer in fair and appropriate punishment it, i talked to president trump many times in his first administration about it, there were many nonviolent drug prisoners in federal prison

that have been there for decades and never harmed anybody purposefully. in ross's case they were using his websites had, he designed a website to allow people to trade illegally on and that is against the law, does not sound like somebody have no second chance. i'm a believer that people make mistakes, using or selling drugs, deserve a second chance. has been in prison for 12 years, he was looking at never getting out for designing a website for people that sold the drugs his website, got like four years in prison. >> will: that actually sold the drugs you wanted to be with an action sold the drugs got minor sentences, i guess they convinces them to testify against him. it was not appropriate, it was a big cause for libertarians, he went and said i want your vote and i will free ross ulbricht and he kept his promise and all i can say is thank you donald trump. >> will: do you think they

afford this was president trump, at the senator was overly harsh identifying with ross ulbricht in some way when it comes to being pursued by the justice department or was a transactional was libertarians who supported him? >> the president's comments were very much that he can synthesize with those. i think many of the supporters have seen the weaponization of government, that government prosecutors and department of justice can be used unfairly, this is a real case of unfairness. i was there when the first step back past, the first man release was matthew charles and i met him in the first weeks after he was released and just to see the look on his face, he had religion, and he thought he was never getting out. and he saw me on television in a prison pushing the first step back and when he applied he was -- and was applied to him he has been out and has been a model

prison. people deserve a second chance, putting people in jail and throwing away the key was it wrong for ross ulbricht and he will get a second chance in life and i think people do deserve that. >> will: as he pointed out it has been a cause among libertarians and now ross ulbricht is free. senator rand paul, thank you for being with us on "the will cain show". 50 minutes from now federal d.e.i. offices will shut down, employees put on paid leave. my friend stephen a. smith joins me on lots, next. can bring out a smile. but it's been a few dog years since she was able to enjoy a smile of her own. good thing aspen dental offers affordable, complete care all in one place. and new patients without insurance get 29 dollar exams and xrays. plus 20% off treatment plans for everyone. loving our patients unconditionally. it's one more way aspen dental is in your corner.

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start, congratulations to my body for having his own afternoon show, major props. just because you support trump don't mean you have to live like him, don't mean you have to dress like him. that's what you are doing right now, will, but it is okay, congratulations, it is well-deserved and long overdue and i'm sorry i couldn't make it yesterday for your first show because i was traveling. >> will: first of all, i don't know that he has patented red, white, and blue. others are allowed to wear red, white, and blue besides the president of the united states. secondarily i just want to say thank you. you have been with me every step of the way, put me on first steak, advocated for the will cain show on espn radio, therefore the podcast and digital, and you are here at the beginning of the will cain show and i always appreciate your support, friend. >> well-deserved. >> will: let me get to this. >> of our past, we have made a lot of knockdown, drag out fights, conversations around dei, but you have changed a little bit. i have been noticing you a

little bit, some different perspectives coming from you, is this something you celebrate or are you highly concerned about the sunset of dei? >> i'm concerned about it. i certainly am not going to celebrate it because i don't like the way they are handling this particular issue. talking about diversity, equity, and inclusion the conversations you and i have had are far different other things i have heard from everybody else. you ask questions and talk about a merit-based society. that's cool. but there are others on the right that are hiding behind that verbiage to disguise how they are really coming across. when you say diversity, equity, and inclusion, you are basically trying to imply -- not you come i'm talking about some on the right, but trying to imply that everybody that got hired dei, you certainly weren't competent, you weren't qualified. well, that might be the case, or it might not be. let's understand that we don't get to ignore why the existence of dei came to be. it was because of the inequities in the system deep, individuals

from minority communities that were being treated fairly. you and i have had this discussion over sports p or certainly you should be able to interview whoever you want to pay or you shouldn't be forced to interview an african american candidate. why did the nfl implement that policy? it implemented that policy because of inequities that were exercised by various nfl owners, spanning history. all i'm saying is let's not forget that reality. its existence. why did it come to be to begin with? so when you eradicate the program and then turn around, let's say hypothetically, you get rid of dei at espn or dei at fox news or anyplace else, and then you turn around and you've got seven, eight, nine different positions, and all of them are white, you're basically implying that all of those white folks are the best candidates, and we couldn't find anybody from any different community -- >> will: hold on -- >> competent.

that is my concern. >> will: you are the top personality at espn. that is not be complement in you, it is a fact p or q are number one. did you get there because of dei? >> i don't think so. >> will: you don't have to worry. you don't have to worry that people -- >> might have played a role. >> will: but my point is you don't have to worry. your life is a testament to merit winning out over the necessity to prioritize skin color. you pointed out people will be like everybody that was hired over the past five years were beneficiaries of dei. supreme court justice clarence thomas talked about this. that is one of the prices of affirmative action. because some people get something that they might not have current for their superficial characteristics. and it is logical to look around and go, you have those same characteristics and you didn't earn it or you didn't get it from merit, did you not earn it? my point is dei actually undercuts people like you who earned it by merit.

>> and i'm saying to you, that argument can be made in some cases. and in some cases, it cannot be. so the way you truly eradicate it, let's say, for example, like you just did. you want to eradicate dei programs. and then the hiring process is revisited. and 40% of the candidates are african americans or latinos or a combination of both, and 60% of them are white, nobody is going to have a problem with that. but 95% to 100% of them are white from the moment dei is eradicated, then you are sending the message that the only reason other folks have those opportunities was because of dei as opposed to their qualifications, and i'm saying you have to be mindful and careful of making sure that that message is not disseminated because that's inaccurate and history has proven that in a lot of different circumstances. that's all i'm saying. >> will: i truly do believe in black americans to not just survive but to excel in a system based upon merit. i don't think dei is necessary. in fact, i think it is cancerous

and undercuts their accomplishment's. i do want to ask you this, stephen a. i'm running out of time but i do have to ask you this. you told me you voted for kamala harris. i don't think -- >> gaius. >> will: you are somewhat independent but leading to the left. lately i feel you are leading leaning to the right. told sean hannity you are not mad donald trump one. if you had a do-over, even, would you vote for donald trump? >> i don't know if i would vote for him because i don't trust that chaos is not going to rain. i don't like -- and i don't want to use come i'm not trying to call him authoritarian or whatever, the white house, the senate, the house, congress, et cetera, complete power like that make me nervous, especially in the hands of somebody like him, who can be a bit petty and stuff like that. i want to be very, very clear, i have voted for some republicans in the past. i would vote for republican's in the future. i am not against -- there is a lot of conservative policies that i support, just like there

are some liberal policies i support. i'm an independent. my issue was not with the party. my issue was with trump and how i thought trump would act. i'm hoping i'm wrong. i'm rooting for him to have a successful presidency, but a successful presidency to me is what benefits america, not him, if that means voting right, i'll vote right next election and the election after that and the election after that. i eat ashamed to tell you. >> will: i got to leave it here but you got to like what is happening the first couple days. >> know... >> will: i do think you would take that. we will find out. because people can watch you on the stephen a. smith show on the stephen a. smith show. thank you so much, stephen a. thinks for joining us. as we get to the heart of the matter from the heart of america. we will be right back here again tomorrow on "the will cain show." ♪ ♪ >> judge jeanine: hello,