the oval office for the very first time, and johnson on the report, watch. >> all right, sounds good. >> this is j.d. vance's first time of stepping in the oval office. it's incredible. >> it's incredible. >> this is incredible. >> well, congratulations to the president, the vice president, and the speaker has a job anchoring the news. >> yeah. >> if he ever has any free time. that was great. just wanted you to see it. thanks for watching this hour, "america reports" now. >> this heavy line this way. then we're going to take hose to you.

[sousounds of the fire] >> this is all i got. >> sa >> john: this is a fox news alert, and new wildfires erupting, and pictures of the laguna fire burning outside of oxnard, the fire was reported just before 9 o'clock local time. just about an hour ago, l.a. time. >> sandra: the fire right now is burning about 2 acres in ventura county. we're going to be monitoring this and the latest with the hughes fire when we speak with the los angeles county fire department. that will happen. >> feus a fein just a few momen. we'll get an update. >> this is about reserving citizenship, the cornerstone of our national identity. >> this executive order is

burdensome, ludicrous and unconstitutional. >> the days of demanding the same rights and benefits of citizens are over. >> i would like to remind donald trump the united states became the most powerful, most prosperous nation on earth not in spite of immigrants, but because of them. >> this is not about immigration, people. this is about defending or sovereignty and respecting the rule of law. >> john: a legal battle over birthright citizenship underway in a seattle courtroom. a federal judge is hearing arguments from four states suing to block president trump's executive order. this as republicans on capitol hill introduce a bill to restrict birthright citizenship. so we begin on a thursday afternoon. i'm john roberts in washington. good to see you, sandra. >> sandra: great to be with you, i'm sandra smith in new york. 22 states and 2 cities are suing. the challenges could become lengthy, legal battles that end up before the supreme court. >> john: we have constitutional attorney general

professor jonathan turley on deck to talk about that. >> john: fir >> sandra: but first, david, what is the state of washington asking for? >> sandra, john, the state of washington through the court wants a restraining order, a stop from the executive order of president trump on monday from going in effect. a department of justice attorney is in the courtroom, and lee ross will send us notes from the courtroom, and the doj attorney will be arguing to allow the executive order to go through as president trump signed it. that's what we are going it hear from the doj. this all deals with the whole idea of birthright citizenship. that means a child born in the united states even if the parents are illegal immigrants, that child would get citizenship. republicans and the bill, and even if congress passes the bill

and the law ending birthright citizenship, that's not the end of it. because it's part of the constitution. and dates back to three years after the civil war, specifically reconstruction, and changing the constitution won't happen even with a law. to change the u.s. constitution, two-thirds of the vote, the house and senate have to sign off, and three fourths of the state legislatures need to degree. that's the way to change. it however, sandra, if president trump sign it is into law, and the supreme court may be interested in hearing arguments, and eventuality the justices can't change the law, but their thoughts would weigh on it. and this is part of four states that washington signed on to and then there's another lawsuit making its way through massachusetts with 18 different states and 2 cities. sandra. >> sandra: david, live at the justice department for us, thank you, john. >> john: and bringing in jonathan turley, constitutional

law professor george washington university, and fox news contributor, and let's put up the map on the screen so people can follow along. 22 states in total are taking the trump administration to court over the end birthright citizenship. i assume it will end up in the supreme court at some point which i assume is donald trump's intention. >> oh, i think you really put your finger on what is really going on here. this executive order is the most vulnerable arguably of all of the executive orders that were issued. here the trump administration is really the underdog. the odds are strongly against it prevailing. but this has been a long standing debate. ironically, since the language was first approved. when this language was still on the floor of the senate, there were people that contributed to it that helped draft it that said that it does not grant birthright citizenship. the problems the language to the

amendment is a model of clarity at both ends. it basically says that if you are born or naturalized in the united states, you are a citizen. but in the middle of that is this maddening clause which says "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof." those six words have been a roaring debate since the 14th amendment was ratified. what does that mean? there are many people who argue that it means if you are not here legally, you cannot claim citizenship for your children or progeny. the trump administration here seems to be playing two different strategies here. one is to get this into court early. they did everything but drive these people to the court to challenge them. they -- it's clear the trump administration wants to be in court as quickly as possible. that's going to allow this to go through the system ultimately to the supreme court. but keep in mind in two years, we have mid-term elections. both the legislation and this

case will force democrats to side unequivocally with birthright citizenship. something that is unpopular with many voters. >> john: john, we have a minute left here. the 14th amendment was passed in the wake of the civil war and the dread scott decision which denied citizenship to former slaves. this was to remedy that. who could have back then in the 1860's foreseen the problem that we'll have about illegal immigration today and people coming over here literally for citizenship tourism. >> well, that was the point of some of the original figures involved in this language. they said that that -- those six words were really about guaranteeing that freed slaves would be recognized as citizens. but they said that would not apply to foreigners who were coming into the country illegally. it would apply to citizens and lawful residents. there were others at that time

disagreed with that interpretation. the supreme court seems to have rejected it in a couple of case. but those are rather dateed and this court might want to take another look at it. >> john: well, i assume that they ultimately will. professor, thank you for joining us. kicking us off today. appreciate it. >> thanks, john. >> john: sandra. >> sandra: southern california is facing fresh wildfire threats. look at the live images, these are the pictures of the laguna fire in ventura county, and this broke out in the last 90 minutes. wow, meanwhile, thousands still under evacuations due to the hughes fire. jonathan hunt is live from the scene of that fire. jonathan, these are incredible images coming out of california. >> yeah, that is a newish fire that broke out earlier this morning, those live pictures you're getting there, and it always looks extraordinary in the early going here. they do have air assets, i believe, that are being brought in to tackle that. here in castaic as you come to us live, the winds have picked

up, sandra, quite significantly over the last couple of hours. and as a result, we are getting new flare-ups here. you're looking across castaic lake here. you can see the smoke cloud above that. and they are -- we have been watching over the last few hours, and we have some video we can show you of a quite remarkable air attack against that flare-up that we have watched again and again as two super scooper airplanes have been dipping down on to the lake here, picking up a load of water. they contact the lake for about 15 seconds. they fill up those planes and then again and again they have done -- those pilots have done round after round, knocking down those flames. and they've made a very significant inroads here as you see those -- that smoke cloud which was pretty significant just 30 minutes ago, they've knocked it down quite considerably now. there are a couple of

helicopters still doing drops. hard to make those out from the distance we are at here. we have also had a couple of the dc-10's, the huge let's as they call then, large aircraft tankers flowing overhead, and it looks as if they decided they do not need those. although as i look at that, there is another plume of black smoke beginning to come up, that would indicate that there are new flames erupting over there. so that is the one fortunate thing, sandra, as you look at the live picture here, that is across the sort of nonresidential side of castaic lake. yesterday we saw those huge flames roaring towards thousands of homes in the city of castaic. a lot of people there still remaining under evacuation orders today. just because these winds are picking up so strongly, everybody is taking the evacuation orders very seriously indeed. given what has happened over the

last couple of weeks here in the l.a. area. we had another fire pick up last night, the seulveda fire, and that was near the famed getty center, and a lot of homes in the bel air area of los angeles. again, air assets brought in because the winds weren't strong enough to keep them grounded, and the assets to significant in the early going in the fire fights, they were able to stop the forward progress of the sepulveda fire. if you want to go back to the pictures of the laguna pictures that are live, that is an intense fight, and here in castaic they are fighting and the winds are picking up and we're in a red flag warning until this evening, and nobody is dropping their guard. this is still an intense fight. just of note, president trump is due to visit the area tomorrow afternoon. he is going to tour the areas

which were so horribly destroyed in the palisades and eaton fires. it will be interesting to see what president trump has to say. he has had a lot of criticism of course about the preparation and preparedness of california. so we will see what president trump says and if, indeed, he meets with california governor gavin newsom. interesting to watch those pictures and words tomorrow, sandra. >> sandra: absolutely. more evacuation orders and warnings are underway right now as we take in these live images. jonathan hunt, we thank you for your reporting from the ground there. john. >> sure. >> john: this is sandra, i think, we're going to somebody from the los angeles county fire department, sandra. >> sandra: he is joining us now. fred fielding. fred, thank you very much for joining us. you come to us from the l.a. county fire department. what can you tell us about this new fire? >> that new fire is going to be

in ventura. they'll be handling that. i'm here at the hughes fire. that right now, the acreage is 10,176 acres. 14% containment. we really fought it aggressively both during the day yesterday and throughout the night. we're trying to get ahead of it as much as we can because there's still a red flag until tomorrow morning and the fuels -- the vegetation here is prime for fire. we have to make sure we act very aggressively to contain the fires. >> sandra: can i circle back on that, and hard to hear you, and we want to hear every word. on the hughes fire, you are reporting how many acres burning? >> 10,176 acres. >> sandra: wow. okay. and you have 14% containment. how confident are you that you'll be able to continue to make progress on that? >> we are very confident that we're going to keep continuing progress here. any tactical opportunities when the wind dies down, when we get the fire running through light

grassy fuels, that gives us more tactical opportunities than if old growth vegetation, the very heavy, energy-dense fuels. anytime that happens, we act very aggressively in partnership with our unified command members here to make sure we keep the thing as small as possible because the danger of letting it get out of the box that we created is just too high. >> sandra: just looking at the proximity here. obviously these pictures out of camarillo, california. you're talking northwest of the los angeles area, ventura county. we're watching the very early stages of this as our reporter jonathan hunt just noted. when these get going, these images can just really stun you. we're watching live pictures right now. can you give us any update that you're hearing of the fire here out of camarillo. >> i've not heard anything because i've been doing interviews about hughes. i can tell you about the condition of the fuels.

the fuels right now are exceptionally dry and there's a lot of them. in 2023, 2024, we had 200 first and 250% of the normal precipitation, and that acts as kindling, and that's where a fire starts. in addition to if it get in the old growth vegetation and those are the largest chaparrals and if the kindling starts, and it gets in the energy-dense fuels and you add the additional factor of the santa ana winds, blowing here at -- you know, upwards of 40 miles an hour. >> sandra: wow. >> it's an explosive fire growth. >> sandra: we're looking at the images. obviously the weather is everything right now as far as containing this. really quickly, morale of the firefighters who have been at this for so long? >> the morale is super high. this is what we want to do. we want to be containing fires and protecting our communities. these guys are tired. they've been working for the past two weeks, but their heads

are held high because they're doing great work out here. >> sandra: fred, thank you for joining us and our best to you, and thank you for what you do. >> thank you. [ ♪ ♪ ] >> let me finish. >> take an animal virus and you increase the transmissibility to humans. >> senator, you do not know what you're talking about quite frankly, and i want to say that officially. >> john: the trump administration preparing to put a stop to what critics say is risky virus research, will that stop another pandemic? we'll talk to senator rand paul coming up later. plus this... >> president trump: they say there's light shining all over the world since the election and even countries we aren't particularly friendly with are happy because they understand what -- there is a future and how great the future will be under our leadership, america is back and open for business. >> sandra: open for business, and the now hiring sign is up.

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setting records with hiring of staff members 1300. and the man in charge of that, bringing in the assistant to the president and in charge of personnel. sergio, how has it gone so far? quickly, we can assume. >> it's an incredible experience, and look, personnel policy, and the president has a clear policy to make america great again, and we've had thousands -- tens of thousands of people who have applied and want to join the administration. as you mentioned, we set a record at 1,300 people we were able to bring in on day 1. we are continuing -- it's been an absolutely incredible experience, and look, we have to deliver. the american people gave the president a clear mandate and we will deliver on the mandate. >> john: sergio, it's great to see you. when the press was on the joe rogan podcast, he said this.

pres>> president trump: the biggest mistake is -- i picked some great people. i picked some people i shouldn't have picked. and i picked a few people that i shouldn't have picked. bad people or disloyal people. >> john: so far you've installed 1300 people, and i think a total of 4,000 people you have got to put in at the white house. that's a lot of vetting to do. not just qualifications, but according to the president, also what they're thinking and what they may or may not do in the months and years ahead. >> absolutely. and we have an incredible team that has been doing the vetting. we are interviewing every single unof the individuals. if you are working in the federal government in a political appointee position, that comes through the white house, and you can see with the picks, we have extraordinary picks, and the president is very hands on, and we meet pretty much every day on some of the bigger hires, and you've seen the american people react to

that. senator marco rubio who is our incredible secretary of state and confirmed with 99 votes. and additional nominees this week, and kristi noem and pete hegseth one of your former colleagues, and the american people are very happy with the results. >> sandra: sergio from the top hires all the way down to the lower level staffers what would you say is a common theme on the hiring? is there a particular question you ask anybody you are bringing into the white house? >> we want to ensure that people deliver on the mandate that the american people gave. that mandate includes a safe and secure border, we have a great economy, we have a foreign policy that makes america great again. what are we doing to look out for the american people? that is the first thing. you have to deliver on the president's promises. promises made. promises kept. >> sandra: how do you find out if that particular person is the one for the. >> job? >> look, we interview them, and

what they have done in previous campaigns, and previous jobs. we have a vetting process. in addition to that, the president is very clear of who he doesn't want to include in this administration. and so those are clear guidelines that we adhere to and we bring the best people possible into the white house and into every department across this land. >> john: so in his first term in office, the president was repeatedly torpedoed buried deep in some of the agency, and some not so deep, as well. one of the most famous torpedos came from miles taylor who was the chief of staff of kristy nelson, and famously penned an op-ed titled under "anonymous." how do you prevent those people from coming in your administration? >> you make a good point, and we are hiring an incredible people, and bringing them on and on the flipside, we are terminating, and cleaning house and boards, and in the government, and doge

with an exceptional place, and the hiring freeze allows us to vet people for other positions, but you have to clean house. nsc declared they are not holding holdovers from the biden era, and one of the mistakes previously, and administration to administration, we keep people that have burrowed in. we're not doing that. we're avoiding that. it's time for a fresh start. and america deserves the best. >> sandra: okay. so can you give us an update on the total hires so far now. >> i think we're over a 1300. we have a lot of people coming in for a lot of big interviews, and everyone from administrators, agencies, ambassadors, and executive assistants at the department of the interior and everybody goes through the office. what we don't have a shortage is candidates. it has been incredible to see the level of people that want to join this administration. outsiders, ceos, people outside of the swamp. we want to be able to deliver on

the mandate for the president. and in order to do that we have to hire the best. >> anybody out there who is thinking of applying to the white house, what is in store for them in terms of work load? i ask the question because at the same time you're hiring the folks for administration, progressive staffers on capitol hill are pushing for a 32-hour work week. what is in store for people who join the administration? >> it's incredible what you see here versus what you see in some other offices. the work here starts very early and ends very late, and there's always more work to be done. we've only been here for four days. the president is an exceptionally hard worker, as you've seen, he's gone nonstop, through immigration, through day 1, and the executive orders signed on day 1, and day 2, and many more to come. as you mentioned earlier, he is traveling to california this weekend. it's a nonstop pace to deliver for the american people. >> sandra: safe to say there's no work from home position being offered? >> knowno work from home positi,

and we want people in the office five, six, seven days a week and elon was asking about the possibility of sleeping in the offence. >> john: he is famous from doing that. the only work from home position is the president. >> correct and i'll tell you this, he's nonstop working. he's done here working in the morning and one of the latest workers out of the office, it's nonstop. people know his energy and his level of dedication. so some people might have a hard time keeping up with him. nobody is going to outwork our president. >> sandra: that is evident. sergio, come back soon. >> john: thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> john: see you again soon. on now to fox news alert, the hearing for trump's executive order ending birthright citizenship is now over in seattle. judge kooner slamming trump's birthright citizenship executive order as a, quote, "blatantly unconstitutional order." so that is from the judge

himself. so you can imagine, sandra, how he's likely going to rule on that. tipping his hand, i think, in terms of where he is actually going with this. so that would probably then be appealed to a court of appeal and then would likely go up to the supreme court. as we were talking with jonathan turley earlier, that was likely the plan all along. to get this before a 6-3 supreme court and see if the president can get a ruling in his favor. >> sandra: yeah. you just came in here on the news and we got word that the judge is blocking president trump's order to curtail that. really slamming his decision to do so. just bringing anybody in on that, this would obviously be the legal principle enshrined in the constitution that automatically makes anyone born within the u.s. or its territories a citizen. we've heard lots of different legal takes and opinions on this. we're getting jonathan turley up here to react in a few moments. but this was one of his initial moves. you have to think, we're just

still a few days from him being sworn into office, john. >> john: yeah, and you know, this is part of the 14th amendment. it's the very beginning of the 14th amendment that says all persons who are born and naturalized in the united states and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are american citizens. what has been argued over for decades is this idea of subject to the jurisdiction thereof and does it apply to those who come into the country illegally, and doesn't apply to citizens of other sovereign nations who work here as diplomats or working for the military. you can't have a child in that country and become a an american citizens, that child is a citizens of the home country. the big question is whether or not it applies to people would are in this country illegally. david spunt joins us now. this is headed to the court of

appeal, i would think. >> absolutely. and the justice department made clear early on it was implementing president trump's agenda as we wait for people to come out from the state attorney general's office in the state of washington and also potentially the department of justice. it's not clear if the doj lawyer that was in the courtroom arguing will come out, too. we'll probably hear from the a.g.'s office in the state of washington because they have won the first round, and i say it's a first round of many because as you mentioned this is likely headed for an appeals court. this brings us back to the entire conversation about making a change to birthright citizenship. it's in the 14th amendment. the 14th amendment is from 1868. 3 years after the civil war ended during a period of reconstruction and as you mentioned, those 6 words, that's what the justice department is hanging on right now. if they lose at the supreme court, assuming this does go to the supreme court, then . constitution is a difficult process.

it takes two-thirds approval in both the house and the senate and 75% or 3/4ths of all the state legislatures. so a lot of different moving parts here. but the bottom line was this judge was not persuaded by any means by the justice department to keep this executive order in play. john. >> sandra: david, if you could stay with us and jump in as you get any news. jonathan turley is joining us on the breaking news that we just heard this judge is blocking the birthright citizenship executive order that came from the president in his first days of office. jonathan, your reaction here. >> well, this is along the lines of what we just discussed on the air, that this is the most vulnerable executive order of all of those issued by president trump. the widespread expectation was this result. the trump administration knew that. there's every indication the

trump administration invited a challenge because they want to get into the courts in order to eventually make it to the supreme court. the supreme court can, of course, change the interpretation of the 14th amendment. although i would still say that that is unlikely. but i think what you're really seeing playing out here is a dual legal and political strategy by, frankly, i think the trump administration views this as winning either way. that it is to the extent this it forces democrats to oppose the legislation in congress, to oppose this effort in court, it plays well with a large number of citizens who don't agree with birthright citizenship. people should realize that we're in the minority on this. most of our close allies in europe, most of the world, does not recognize birthright citizenship. so i think you're seeing both a legal and political strategy playing out.

>> john: this was tested in the courts a long time ago. 1898. the case of wong kim ark who was son of chinese parents and born in san francisco under the 14th amendment he would have qualified under the original interpretation as a citizen of the united states. he went to visit his parents in china, then when we came back, he was denied entry. but the supreme court decided in favor of him, and that's -- i guess since then, it's been determined anybody who is in this country who is not working as a diplomatic attache or something like, that working diplomatically for an embassy, if they have a child in the united states, that child is an american citizen. but getting back to your point, when you look at that affirmation of the 14th amendment provision, in 1898, in this idea that, well, maybe they don't need a constitutional amendment. can the supreme court simply clarify what they believe is the intention of the 14th amendment, jonathan?

>> yes, they can. i mean, the thing is the case that you mentioned, people who challenge birthright citizenship point out that the chinese parents were lawfully here. no one is challenging the idea that the children of citizens or lawful residents can have this claim. yes, the supreme court can adopt an alternative interpretation of those six key words. who do they mean, and there may be some justices who are declined to do that. but this has been the long standing precedent that the supreme court has followed. so it was virtually impossible that the trump administration could prevail in the lower courts because they would feel bound by this case law. now, the question about head counting on the supreme court makes this rather difficult. i think that there might be some justices who are interested in

re-examining those six words, you know, what they mean and not effectively reading them out of the amendment. but i also think that what these justices are going to be really influenced by is that there was a division of opinion at the time this was passed. some of the people at that time said that it did not allow birthright citizenship while others said that it did. and i think that you might find some conservative justices kara inclined to stay with that approach. is much more conservative on these types of questions. >> and stand by, and we are bringing in kerri urbahn to way in all of this, and i suspect this was expected, and one step closer to the supreme court which i assume is where they wanted this thing to go. >> yes, i think it's right or they wouldn't have put it out

the way they did. and i think the ultimate goal is to get it there. the supreme court is under no obligation to take it up if and when it gets to them. it's certainly a fascinating legal issue especially when you consider the context of the 14th amendment, particularly the clause "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof." you know, the senator who wrote that clause at the time gave speeches about it and specifically said it did not include aliens, and so that was the understanding for many, many years as to who that clause applied to. as far as people naturalized or born in the united states, it did not include aliens and, it wasn't until the case you were talking about earlier, the decision that came down in 1898 that that changed. but even in that case, john, the justices there emphasized the fact that the chinese national at issue, that his parents in the united states had been, quote, permanently domicileed in the united states for quite some time, and the context in that case is that it was at a time of high anti-chinese sentimentism

and there was the chinese exclusion act and the like. it was virtually impossible for chinese nationals to become citizens. so there are ways, i think, to distinguish what is going on now, say, with birth tourism and the like, with what happened in 1898 for instance. >> sandra: kerri,. >> just to remind everyone, president trump first proposed this in his first term and we know how that ended up. why does the president think this time will be different and how are they approaching it differently? >> well, i think, one, the makeup of the court is different, and two, it's an issue that still needs -- i think -- the fact that legal scholars on both sides of the aisle -- and you have mixed opinion, by the way within the republican camp and the democrat camp on this. it's been debated now for over a hundred years means that it's something that may, in fact, need to, you know, just have the supreme court take another look at it.

again given the fact that in 1898, for instance, when this decision came down and birthright citizenship was born, there was no such thing as birth tourism. something that we saw explode in 2015 under the obama administration. and so that is a very different set of facts, culture, and time than we were dealing with then which makes, you know, which makes it possible that they could look at it now and perhaps come to a different conclusion. >> john: one more quick point on what you said, because the parents were permanently domicileed in the united states, it was deemed that he, in fact, was an american citizen because he was born here. many of the people who have come across the border illegally have been patroled into the united states, so they're here on some sort of -- i don't want to say legal basis because that might conifer confer more than that ws intended. they are permitted in the country. does that change things for them? >> this is why i think it's a

potentially ripe issue for the supreme court to look at. a lot of things changed. you look at the retired judge, well known judge, rip c richard pozner, 7th circuit, he said many times the 14th amendment does not confer the citizenship status on people here illegally. that was not being considered at the time because, again, the chinese nationals who were here were technically here illegally -- herelegally and couldn't bee citizens, and it's different times and it's a fascinating legal issue to be debated. >> will continue for weeks to come. thank you, kerri. we'll take a quick break and be right back. n a home, and need money for your family? newday usa can help. veterans have earned a lot of va benefits with their service, but the va home-loan benefit is a big one. by using your benefit at newday, you can borrow up to one hundred percent of your home's value. take out an average of seventy thousand dollars! use that money to pay off high-rate debt

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>> sandra: all right, any moment now the senate is expected to vote on the confirmation of john ratcliffe

for cia director, and he might be the only one for today and we are getting breaking news on pete hegseth and his nomination. senior correspondent aishah hasnie has that. >> and lease mu lisa murkowski d on x she will not be supporting pete hegseth. she said this, and she put out a lengthy statement and said that his past behaviors including infidelity on multiple occasions says demonstrates a lack of judgment, she says, that is unbecoming of someone who will lead our armed forces. she talks about how the behaviors for men and women in the uniform, they are held to a higher standard and they would be held accountable for such actions and they deserve leaders, she says, who uphold these same standards. so she is out.

murkowski, and keeping a close eye on senators mitch mcconnell, and susan collins, they also could be no votes and that would mean that vice president j.d. vance would have to come down here to capitol hill and break a tie. that is if three republicans wind up voting no on pete hegseth. we can't get to pete hegseth until we get a vote for cia director john ratcliffe and that is going to happen today because democrats are jamming up the senate floor right now, applying this 30-hour debate rule on every single nominee. if that is the case, sandra, we're going to be here not just here week days, weekends, you name it. i actually got to talk to democrat leader chuck schumer about this, and i pressed him on what his plans are and here's what he told me, watch. >> on the nominees that do have democratic support, bipartisan support because there are some like john ratcliffe, do you support chris murphy slowing

this confirmation process down, and do you think that's going to happen with other bipartisan? >> i have some doubts about mr. ratcliffe. so i think for a day or two or a few hours to examine these nominees who have such power thoroughly, absolutely. absolutely. >> so remember, sandra, the senate floor is a one-track train station, and the next train or the next nominee can't come in if the first one doesn't happen, and ratcliffe today, and pete hegseth saturday night, and kristi noem on sunday, it will be a drip, drip, drip, and president trump could try to trigger the recess appointments, and recess appointments are temporary and right now, senators, even trump's closest allies are not keen on it. breaking news, pete hegseth has officially lost at least one republican senate vote back to you. >> sandra: that is lisa

murkowski, and adding to this, aishah, john thune says the nomination for scott bessent will be over the weekend. thank you for that. john. >> john: digging deeper on this and former press secretary and fox contributor ari fleischer and assumed pete hegseth would lost murkowski and senator collins, and maybe he will get the votes and have j.d. vance as the tiebreaker. he is still confident he will be confirmed, what do you think he will be? >> i think that's exactly the right number and the right math, and you hear from people inside and likely lose 3, and mitch mcconnell from kentucky is the third vote to be lost. will he pick up any democrats, that will be interesting. if it's 50/50 -- the interesting thing is being confirmed by the

senate, nobody remembers the tally, just remember you were confirmed and the type of job you did. he needs the 50. i think that's exactly the number he'll get. >> sandra: fair enough, and this is happening fast, all of the picks as we watch the process, ari, how would you describe that so far? >> well, you know, when i look at the trump transition, sandra, i actually view it more of an acceleration than a transition. donald trump has got his foot on the gas. after 4 years of having his foot removed from the gas pedal, he knows what he wants to do, how he wants to do and he's being even more aggressive and assertive had be he won in 2020d a continuation of his second term. i think the key thing for a for secretary majority leader john thune to fulfill the promise and keep the senate in long hours and overnight and over the weekend and they have to get the nominations through, and if the democrats are delaying not for the purpose of examining more

information, it's delay for delay's sake. john thune has to muscle it through with all speed and make these guys work all weekend long. >> john: let's take a look -- let's put it on the screen and you can see the 12 nominees have been voted out of committee. yet only one -- senator marco rubio has received confirmation. that was on 99-0 unanimous vote. the delay in the request for the 30-hour -- or the innovation of the 30-hour rule came from senator chris murphy and he invoked it over the ratcliffe nomination which came out of committee with bipartisan support. ratcliffe was a member of congress. here is what the senate majority leader john thune said about the delay, listen here. >> he said senators need time for a full real debate. but a handful of democrats want to play politics with this nominee. >> john: you know, most -- with the exception of maybe hegseth if he loses two more republicans, might not make it across the finish line, but it

absolutely looks like the rest of them will. so why delay? >> well, that's the point. this is not about good governance. this is about opposing donald trump. this is about democrats being able to go home and said i did everything in my power used the rules of the senate to slow it down and s stop it and then haid as heros from the far left. our nation is too busy. presidents deserve to have their people in place. if you oppose the policies, that's fine, oppose the policies. but allow the president to fill out his team. that's the tradition and what happens, this is delaying tactics for no good government purposes. >> sandra: heads up, and we heard that the senate is voting on ratcliffe, and that is a lie look at capitol hill there, and we'll bring you the latest from there as we learn it. ari, thank you very much. >> john: thanks, ari. >> sandra: okay, so we'll keep watching that, meanwhile,

president trump delivering his first major speech to world leaders at the world economic forum in switzerland, and bringing in an economic advisor to presidents. thank you for being here. i have a lot to ask you about. first, this is some of what we heard from trump on the world stage at the world economic forum. listen. >> president trump: what the world has witnessed in the past 72 hours is nothing less than a revolution of common sense. from the moment i took office, i've taken rapid action to reverse each and every one of these radical left policies that created this calamity. i terminated the ridiculous and incredible wasteful green new deal. i call it "the green new scam." withdrew from the one-sided paris climate accord and ended the insane and costly electric vehicle mandate. i'll demand that interest rates drop immediately, and likewise they should be dropping all over the world. we have saved free speech in

america and we have saved it strongly with another historic executive order. finally as we restore common sense in america, we're moving quickly to bring back strength and peace and stability abroad. i'm also going to ask all nato nations to increase defence spending to 5% of gdp which is what it should have been years ago. >> sandra: a very firm message to the world he is sending there, steve. i want to get your reaction to that. he talked about common sense. taking on the radical left and their policies and even talked about interest rates and bringing them down -- something many in america are dealing with right now and hope to see happen. how would you characterize that message he was sending to world leaders? >> well, it was an america-first agenda and speech, and by the way, just to look at the -- look at the faces on many of the e.u. bureaucrats they weren't too happy about this. that was an agenda -- my friend robert wolf who is a democrat, and you know, i believe a common

sense democrat, probably agrees with a lot of what donald trump said. now, i have to say this, the president does not have the authority to bring interest rates down. interest rates are set by the market. not by the president or politicians. but all of these other things. pulling america out of climate change agenda, ending the green new deal programs, putting america first when it comes to production of the energy, asking other countries to step up and help in the national defense of the world, i think those are all very positive things and that's what trump was elected to do. >> sandra: robert, your name was invoked. >> i agree a lot with what steve said. i'm going to bite my tongue. listen, he made it clear on the world stage that there is a new boss in town and h listen, he made it clear on the world stage that there is a new boss in town and he really went after everyone. he went after monahan and jamie dimon of the big banks of not doing business with conservative companies. i'm not sure if it's fact or

fiction. he went after opec, he went right after saudi in making sure they supply more oil to the prices go down, and he went after nato for spending 5%, even though we don't spend near 5% on defense and he went after the fed and central banks -- >> you like what you're hearing? >> here's what i say, and i tweeted it out. today's as wall street journalr yesterday's talked about where economists see interest rates, they see interest rates going higher, and see a predominant number of president trump's plans are inflationary. whether it's tariffs, protectionism, this is what the economists said and they think also gdp is going to go up. they think we're going to have a stronger economy but also it's going to increase inflation. so this idea of rates coming down, we're not seeing that. >> sandra: we're not seeing that. we're three days in. >> we're not seeing that trend, that's all.

i mean, if you looked at the last employment numbers, and the last cpi numbers -- >> steve, give us a final thought. >> yeah, like, i am worried about inflation. and trump has to bring inflation down, sandra, because that was one of the major reasons he got elected. tired of going to the grocery store and see the prices rise. here's my final thought. he was talking to all of the e.u. bureaucrats. the american economy has been so much stronger over the last decade or two than the european economies. they would be well advised to adopt the american model of economic freedom and move away from socialism which has not worked in europe. >> sandra: well, we'll see. let's give it some time and then we'll continue to digest it as it happens. thanks to both of you for having us. sorry, we're short on time today. john. >> john: sandra, the trump's administration mass deportation efforts in full swing, and fox

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