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states hit by natural disasters. i read both into that. >> harris: kevin o'leary, quickly before we let you go. off topic a bit here but something the president has kept his eye on as they begin to go to the first site in north carolina and see some of the damage that is still remaining. tiktok, are you going to buy it? are you ready? >> yes, we are. i think a lot of hype and a lot of, you know, just -- you have no information you get speculation. but i will tell you one thing about this deal that is so complicated. no one has read the order from the supreme court 9-0 decision by all justices. they further defined it you can't use the chinese algorithm. the only deal that has -- so i think it comes back to us. >> good luck with that. i know there are a lot of tiktok users who will love it.
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right now, the president paying attention to north carolina, tennessee, those hit by hurricane helene. "outnumbered" now. >> fox news alert: you are looking at the aftermath of president trump's press conference at the asheville airport. this was about hurricane helene, the second deadliest storm to hit the u.s. mainland in 55 years. you are the commander chief with breaking news. an executive potentially getting rid of fema, instructing his government to look at that. he called fema bureaucratic, slow, but other than that, they are great. this is "outnumbered." i'm kayleigh mcenany with my cohost's harris faulkner and emily compagno. joining us dagen mcdowell, cohost of the bottom line and the big money show on fox business, and dr. marc siegel, fox news senior medical analyst and professor of nyu -- health. president trump spoke to reporters immediately after he landed in asheville, north carolina.
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>> so interesting. everybody is talking about california, and that's a mess, but i said i'm not going to california until i stop in north carolina. here we are. we are going to go visit the site. we are going to work with the three of the congressman, republican congressman, who are fantastic and their areas have been affected. i like the concept when north carolina gets hit, the governor takes care of it. when florida gets hit, the governor takes care of it, meaning the state takes care of it. to have a group of people come in from an area that don't even know where they are going in order to solve, immediately, a problem, is something that never worked for me. this is probably one of the best examples of it not working. there's been some others, like in louisiana, et cetera. we are going to be doing something on fema that i think most people agree -- i would like to see the states take care of disasters. what the state take care of the
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tornadoes and hurricanes and all the other things that happened, and i think you were going to find it less expensive. you will do it for less than half, and you are going to get a lot quicker response. that seems to be the recommendation, but we will be making that over the next couple of weeks. >> dagen, it's important to talk about this in the context of the president's predecessor, president joe biden. hurricane helene hit. more than 230 lost their lives. it took the former president four days to take an on camera briefing, nearly a week to visit, and eight days after the storm hit. i want to play a sound bite. eight days after the second deadliest hurricane to the u.s. mainland, and president biden had this to say when asked about the storm on everyone's mind for a week. [no audio] we don't have that. they said they will put up for
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moment. we will read it. "what do the states of the storms -- need" gimmick then he said "the storm zone. i didn't know which storm you were talking about. >> that's not surprising. this is political, not just at the federal level, but at the state level. i want to remind people of governor roy cooper, then governor of north carolina. when the storm hit, only 410 national guard were activated. that's 4% of north carolina's national guard. six days after the storm hit, only about one-tenth of north carolina's national guard was activated. it took six days after helene made landfall on october 2nd for governor roy cooper to request active-duty troops. 1,000 at that time.
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almost a week. even at that moment -- these are facts. they were not given command and control by the governor. even if this falls back to the states, as president trump talked about, the states have a better command of how these funds can be dispersed. if you are run by someone who is incompetent -- and you can look at california as well -- then that does not help. i will just leave it there. the only reason lives were saved and not more people died in north carolina is because of the vast private army of helicopter pilots who flew into the mountains. people i know who were delivering aid and rescuing people to after day, when there was no one there but private citizens and people from these groups. it disgraced to this nation that it was led by joe biden in that
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way. >> any moment from now, president trump will meet with victims in north carolina. i want to remind viewers, these 230 people are not numbers, statistics: they are human beings. this family lost 11 family members. imagine that. in a moments time, 11 members of your family wiped away. many people still living in tents. happened months ago. this person lost her little son micah, who was 11 years old. his last words were crying out to jesus christ, his savior. always wanted to be a superhero, megan said about her son. "instead, he's my hero. he reached past anything that even grown adults reach for. my son called out to the god almighty." this is what this moment is about four president trump: touching these people, speaking to these people, hugging these people. >> those unfathomable losses to me, there's no words to describe
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them. you are right that finally we have a commander in chief that's their on the ground to try to empathize, to try to tell the american people. and inspiration for all of us in life, this hero. you are right. save our allies is still there. the point is these private groups, these americans reached out to their fellow north carolinians and fellow americans, stood in the gap where the government failed. i see their success and continued steadfast, stalwart effort as a continued failure of the government. finally, we have with this new administration, the opportunity to totally turn everything around. a problem and the failure and the dependency of the government to begin with that was set up like a prop by the biden administration so people thought they had help coming. the reality is in those moments, what they learned, the hideous truth under the biden administration is no one was
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coming except their fellow americans, fellow north carolinians, people like save our allies. think out for president trump. i look forward to a disaster like that never happening again because the disaster came afterwards. >> we are still looking at pictures of this devastation. it happened a long time ago, and yet it is still a devastated area. to hear president trump say "fema was better under my watch, but the state could do it better." there all these conflicts he mentioned. >> fema is under the same umbrella as all the other things that dhs has to do. there is the border. there's a lot of things that dhs is doing that are broken. that's a huge agency now. it's just one of the things that needs to be looked at. at the end of the previous show, i asked trey gowdy if he's taking away fema by executive action just for north carolina, or -- both? he said probably more quickly it will come from north carolina but he has to get it out of the hands of a broken agency.
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you mentioned the death from katrina and helene. they are one and 2 now in the modern history. i know this galveston hurricane in 1900, we had more than 8,000 people die, but in modern history, we are looking at one and 2. it is an embarrassment to the federal government that it took so long for fema to even -- we still have 2 million cubic pounds of debris on the ground from helene. that could take a long time -- cubic feet, excuse me -- a long time to pick it up. they have only picked up 1 million cubic feet and debris and it's been 122 days. >> i think another thing worth mentioning when we think about fema is the scandal it is developed in that got inappropriate attention because we were in the middle of the election and its aftermath. this from the daily wire. "government employs told the daily wire that at least
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20 million homes with trumpet flags or signs were skipped from the end of october to november, meaning there were not given the opportunity to qualify for fema assistance. images at the daily wire show houses were skipped over by the workers who wrote in the government system messages -- no entry per leadership." this is that the crux of terms problem with fema. >> this has been called a national disaster. look at the contrast between president trump marching in with largess to something the mainstream media always overlooks a week afterwards. now in california. i can tell you medically, homes that were destroyed the injuries that occurred, the people that were displaced. 13,000 people in fema shelters. listen to this.
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$27 billion in its budget that biden just gave them. what is he doing with it? you just said the politicizing of a national disaster. was like "the wizard of oz," the man behind the curtain that said "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain." just pulling levers. president trump puts a spotlight back where it belongs on an area that is still devastated. >> and the symbolism of the first trip out of washington to see would be north carolina, amid all these national disasters. we saw him go to -- when the president took a long time to do that. when the former president took nearly a week to do that. we will keep you updated, as president trump gives an update on the deportation flights. he's also about to be with victims. we'll take you to it when it happens. for now, the criminal migrants being rounded up as we speak and sense out of the country and a single file line of adult males onto an airplane.
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>> president trump just gave a new update on his immigration crackdown. he is sending a strong and clear message. during the biden administration, we saw footage like this. the federal government flying migrants into the country undercover of darkness. now, the trump white house is posting pictures like these. those are illegal immigrants being ushered onto deportation flights from briggs army base in texas. this official telling fox news "we can confirm that overnight, two dod aircraft conducted flights from the united states to guatemala." here is the president just a short time ago. >> the deportation is going well.
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we are getting the bad, hard criminals out. these are murderers. these are people that have been as bad as you can get, as bad as anybody if you have seen. we are taking them out first. >> kayleigh, as vicious and hard as we have seen, "we are taking them out first." as you aptly noted in the last block, talking about what's to come, single file lines of adult males. >> this is well thought out, emily. this was methodical, surgical, the way they are going after these criminal migrants. the imagery. the press secretary karoline leavitt posted this image of a plane. you can see a line of single adult males. is not aoc languishing at the southern border. they are combating those images with the images of hardened criminals, the videos of hardened criminals like we saw yesterday. instead of resistance, they are getting some acquiescence. you can see the imagery there. the governor said she supports
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what she is seeing with these deportation spirit she used to say she resists trump with every tool, but then you have these actors j.b. pritzker saying "i'm not working with him. what he's doing is wrong. he's not trying to extend a hand to the federal government." meanwhile, the federal government has put out a list of people that were apprehended, one of whom from the state they represent. illinois. he has reckless bodily harm on his rap sheet, burglary, assault with a deadly weapon, and more. those of the kind of winners democrats seem to be asko protecting right now. >> these crimes are horrible. >> burglary -- >> i want to dive into what you are saying, which is how governors are responding, some changing their tune, and some blue state ones. let's listen to this. the governor of massachusetts, flip-flop. >> if the trump administration requests it, would the massachusetts state police
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assist in mass deportations? >> absolutely not. every tool in the toolbox is going to be used to protect our citizens, our resident,s don mcgahn mikes, and -- >> it's what we expected and what i support, which is the apprehension of criminals in our communities. >> harris, a different tune, which i don't want to condemn. and i'm grateful for anyone that joins -- i don't want to say they are flipping. you know what? good. thank you. too little, too late, but you are welcome. >> i love that balanced approach that you are putting forth. it is important. when someone comes online and do what they need to do, let's not tear that down: let's hope they keep doing it. we cannot miss the fact, and i thought the words you use, you call j.b. pritzker an actor. he is an assistant. let's hope this rendition of his performance is one that sticks
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for a while. where it is at least allowed to happen. if he decides to become a different character in all this, will we get video of him blocking the way of that person from his state that was rounded up? that criminal who had already broken the law by coming here illegally? i would like to play that on the air. would like to defend these people -- if you would like to defend these people without the court, his old love for illegal immigrants. bring it on. i would love to see that. tom homan, the border czar for trump has told me about it -- hundreds of thousands of missing children that we know. that number has already started to come down from 300,000. they have found about 75-80000 of those kids already. if they can get a list of these guys. four full days in office for mike trump. they can get a list of where these kids have been and they have been identifying it since the election, trying to find those little ones, what in the world was biden's administration doing? what was secretary of homeland -- doing when he said
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to the committees on capitol hill "we don't know where those kids are? i will look into it." dude, you office they had a better way to find them and didn't do your job. can't believe they impeached him and didn't remove him. >> it's incredible what a little competence, or a lot of competence in this case, can-do. leaders who talk about protecting people. the reality is that the americans were left unprotected for the last four years, and that these terrible rap sheets, the viciousness of these recidivists. the reality is a lot of the people were american citizens. it's americans being protected. most of them, women and children, by these deportations. >> this was pain, suffering, misery, murder rains down on the american people intentionally by joe biden and company. it's telling the lack of a public outcry about these deportations. again, 1.4 million illegal migrants in this country at
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least with deportation orders in place. it is the lack of public outcry from even the most far left lunatics that tells you how much this country rejected what the biden administration did, not to the nation, but the individuals, the families, even the women and children who suffered in the hands of human traffickers. the people who died in this nation because of the drug traffickers. there was a raid in new jersey. i think there was one american so far, based on the hazy reporting, who was detained as part of that raid, and the two left wing senators put out a statement. they said something like "our broken immigration system requires solutions, not fear tactics." the fear came from what your ilk did the last four years. this is giving people solace and
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certainty. and a notion of safety that joe biden and you, corey, and the other senator did not, so have a seat. get this cleaned up. >> right, and it's just the beginning. >> i think there is a connection between the national security problem and public health crisis. i think president trump and company is fixing it. 5.4 million illegals came in under biden without -- of any kind. 1.9 got away without a medical exam of any kind. that includes mental status: depression, anxiety, which is feeding these crimes. add the drug abuse dagen was just talking about, and there being gateways for drugs. they come over here anxious, depressed, nowhere to go, not supposed to be here, not screened medically for things like syphilis or heart disease or infections, which then spread to american citizens. hooray that this is being
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>> president trump signed another executive order. this was to make good on yet this campaign promise. >> we have an executive order ordering the declassification of files relating to the assassinations of president john f. kennedy, senator roberts f kennedy, and reverend dr. martin luther king jr. >> that's a big one. a lot of people have been waiting for this for years. for decades. everything will be revealed. [pen on paper] okay?
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give that to rfk jr. >> gave him the pen that signed the order. rfk jr. the order instructs the national intelligence director and attorney general to present a plan within 15 days for the complete release of classified documents related to president john f. kennedy's assassination, 45 days -- martin luther king jr. documents. reaction has been mixed. the family of dr. king said this in a statement. "for us, the assassination of our father is a deeply personal family loss we have endured over the past 56 years. we hope to be provided the opportunity to review the files as a family prior to its public release." jfk's grandson criticized what's going on, saying declassification "is using jfk as a political prop. when he is not here to punch back, there is nothing heroic about it."
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>> he sort of made a name for himself as being a very vocal anti-trump individual on x and the like, so that reaction doesn't surprise me. that is his family. so he has a right to express how he feels. i am grateful for dr. king's family statement that requested privacy and the opportunity to have a preshowing so they are not shocked by an email that hits their inbox if this headline. my hope is truly honored. i do think the reality is what we are seeing: the dismantling, that just because something was does not mean it has to remain that way. just because something is classified for a long time does not mean that's the way it's always been. here we have a president that is saying "i actually think it's in the best interest of the american people to know." we will not just keep the cloak and dagger "for decades: i will let the american people understand, because trans transparency" is the greatest dedication in this government. the second point that a small
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but i think really important here. the first administration, always saw was people resisting president trump in his own administration. the first thing i thought of when i saw his orders was -- and they are going to do it. we can have faith as the american people in the execution of his executive orders, from people that have sworn an oath to the constitution come up to us, to him. >> i couldn't miss the point that a lot of americans don't trust the government period. the percentage of americans who say they trust the government i'm not sure that you can -- is that hash mark even possible? it's not political. they look at it and think it's so opaque, when will they tell us anything? >> just went through four years of obfuscation on president biden's health. we didn't know anything. now there's president trump right out-of-the-box. let's get transparency. by the way, it's not an accident that he gave the pen to rfk jr., who has now been saying for a
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really long time very forcefully to get this investigated further, because he believes there was a conspiracy to kill jfk, period. michael is one of the top -- in the world and does not agree with that. he has looked at the records and think there were two bullets from behind, not one from the front. >> declassify it will find out. >> exactly. >> in terms of the timing, there were so many of these executive orders. there were omnibus documents -- so he could pass more at a time. >> the first one that biden orders that if -- this is all very shocking to me, that president trump made all of these promises on the campaign trail, and he's doing exactly what he promised the american people he was going to do. every single thing.
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said -- was lying from the time he ran for office. was going to go on don mike mcgovern from the sensor, instead from the very far left, faceless people wearing lanyards, to quote rfk jr. lined up until the last breaths of his administration. when he was partnering people -- when he was pardoning people he said he would never pardon, including his son. it is truly astonishing what president trump has done. he said he would do it and he is. >> i'm not kidding about this. when we have the drones, particularly over new jersey, concentrated not far from where the former president-elect lives as a home. he spoke up after days. the representative from new jersey, everybody saying they knew what was going on and -- might have involved an enemy around, so on and so forth. until he said "i'm not going back to bedminster until you
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tell me what's going on." i want those files to be declassified. i want to know what was happening above the skies and our home state. >> a lot of people said after this "we still want the drone files." i believe president trump will give us those in due time. there was a 1992 law that mandated the release of these files. that clock ended up taking to present terms first term. president trump released the files but there were reductions for the purposes of national security. now we will get the files in full without reductions. 320,000 documents, the full breadth of what is included. 99% have been released. a sliver of what you don't know. you wonder what's behind those productions, and no one wonders more than rfk periods father was shot in 1968. he was a 14-year-old boy. he died in the hospital the next day. imagine losing your father -- good for him for fighting for transparency and answers that i
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can imagine him sitting going "i want to read more about what happened to my dad," and he will get those answers. >> charlie hurt's father wrote one of the definitive accounts of the kennedy assassination. >> we have a fox news alert. president trump with the victims in north carolina. several of these victims are from the organization samaritans first. they were beneficiaries of the help they provided. when we zoom out of this shot, what you are going to see is a ramshackle house. you will see damage done. we saw this shot a little bit earlier. this is president trump at his best. you can't hear them just yet, but we are listening to him now. franklin graham appeared they are having a private conversation. you made this point about private organizations. no one has done more for this area than save our allies and samaritans first. he is there was some victims. you can just imagine what they have been through. feeling neglected by the federal government, and the symbolism of the first trip of a new
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president, coming to meet with them. >> yes, and how many have felt forgotten. earlier today on "fox & friends," there was a family sitting there that said "we thought we were forgotten, except for save our allies, except for our fellow americans in north carolinians." people are still receiving water and food and shelter. they are still in an acute emergent situation. for the president to make it a priority to stop their first and say "i see you. tell me what needs to be done." recall too that during those early days as private citizens, landing on the ground and deploying this massive amount of help needed, fema was blocking efforts, reportedly. there was a lot of friction with those boots on the ground of where helicopters could fly and how the supplies could get to people in need of. at the end of the day, to the point of ongoing discussion about the bureaucracy and the bloat of government, the distress.
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the reality is that rules got in the way of execution. the way we've always done it got in the way of americans receiving help, and that's never acceptable. >> not only rules, but politics. you've heard president trump say today that "we know that conservatives --" who had term signs in their yards were skipped over by fema. we know that. some of those people who were part of that chain and knew it was wrong has spoken publicly. i want to point out something that i don't know if you can see. there is a young woman off to the right. i just saw something that among victims, imagine, she was smiling and looking at president trump. she can be seen now. you can see the first lady to the president's left. he made a comment earlier today to meet with officials -- we took that life. said "melania wanted to be with me to go to north carolina here she knows the need is so great here. but i told her we've got to go to california, and she said that's okay."
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so as he talks and gets ready to make some comments, once you meet with the victims, you know how true this is -- it changes your perspective. >> dagen, i want to point out that when the motorcade came by -- we will hear from him any moment -- people with trump signs were saying "thank you, trump." they wanted desperately for leadership to address the image we are seeing on the right, the devastation. the names are chris and kam west, ramona next who is a pastor at eagle rock church, thomas wright, jackie mitchell -- curtis right, amber right. beneficiaries of samaritans first. >> this is east of asheville. asheville is a very wealthy town. >> let's listen in. here is franklin graham. >> honored to be with these people today that have suffered so much. to lose everything you have, and you just wonder what you are
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going to do and where you are going to go. we thank god. i want to say, thank god that he has given us the resources to be able to help. a lot of people have helped. not just samaritans first. does a lot of organizations, volunteers that have come to western north carolina and east tennessee to help. this is my backyard. i grew up about 8 miles or so from here. went to high school right down the road, about a mile down the road. this is home to me. we have got a family today -- the west family. this is their house. we are here today to show the president just a little bit of the damage and the problems that
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the people of western north carolina are facing. thank you for what you have done for western north carolina. thank you for coming again to see. thank you. your son came with us twice. they have taken a real interest. this is not a politician looking for votes. this is a man who wants to do something, who wants to see some changes. who wants to make life better for you. thank you so much for coming, and melania, thank you so much for coming. it's an honor to have you with us. mr. president, thank you. >> thank you. a good man. he has done a great job. a fantastic job. we have come to north carolina with a simple message for all of the people of this region who are hit so hard by hurricane helene. that message is very simple: you are not forgotten any longer. you were treated very badly by
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the previous at mr. risch end. i'm here after a few days of the administration. we're going to california, los angeles. they got hit hard, as you know. a lot of that could've been prevented i think, if they had water, which they had plenty of but they didn't use it. i am going there, but -- set up to go there. what about north carolina? they said -- and i said that i have to stop their first. i'm stopping in north carolina. we made the stop. you are represented by some great people, great congressmen that are with us. we are going to get involved with them. michael whatley is here, who is the head of the republican party. work with lara trump to take us through to a tremendous victory. as the media says, one of the most consequential presidential elections ever. 129 years, whatever that may mean. whatever it is, it was a great election we had and we won your
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state all three times. and all three primaries we won your state. we won it six times i guess, mr. congressman. it's a great place. i wanted to come here before i went anywhere. the campaign. i promised i would come back to western north carolina to help the people of the state, and today here i am to deliver on that promise. we have a lot of things in mind. we are getting the army corps of engineers all set. you need your riverbanks, roads fixed. we will get it done in rapid time. i have asked susie wiles and all of my people to start calling up and get the core ready. they are going to get ready to go. i don't know what took so long from the other administration, but remember, i wasn't here for the first three months. whatever it may be. we can only start as of, essentially, one or two days ago. we made a lot of progress over the last couple of days. i understand that we are going
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to get you the resources and support you deserve. we will be at your side through every step of the rebuilding. no american is going to be left behind. the people i just met are so great, and the people that are not house -- that house will be very beautiful in a little wh while. franklin decides -- maybe rip it down and build a new one. sometimes, you can do that just as easily. we will take care of the people. i want to thank our great first lady. she really wanted to be here. she sees what happened and felt very badly, and wanted to go. we are then going out together to los angeles, but she wanted to be in north carolina pick she saw what happened. she has a feeling like i do for north carolina. thank you as well to a great gentleman, franklin graham, and his father, billy. i used -- he used to go with my father to yankee stadium and places. i would watch his father preach.
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he was some preacher. boy. you have got a good start. you come from the ultimate jeans, i can tell you. he was really something. franklin has done so much. his father is looking down on him right now, i guarantee for a long time he has been looking down on franklin saying "i am very proud of you, son." he really is. what franklin has done with samaritans first is incredible. they told me yesterday that samaritans first has been great, but the fema people left you high and dry, but we are going to change that around. we are not happy with fema. as well as all of the representatives appear to have great representatives here. chuck edwards who is it someplace where is chuck? >> right here. >> thank you. virginia foxx, a power. she is a power. don't ever have her as your enemy. it is not good.
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pat harrigan. good job, pat. addison mcdowell. these guys were just here. they are doing a fantastic job. thank you very much. mark harris, thank you. brad, thank you. gregg murphy, fantastic guy, my friend for a long time now. and the rnc chairman michael whatley, who as i said brought us to a great victory with lara. the chairman of the party. the whole republican -- i took michael whatley from north carolina because he did the best job, and i put him in charge of everything. the job they did together was incredible. last september, hurricane helene became one of the deadliest natural disasters in modern american history. rainfall ran two -- lethal levels, unprecedented devastation throughout western north carolina and many other
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states, as you note. it's our responsibility and deepest obligation of the american government: to protect its people. that's never truer than in times of emergency like this. unfortunately, our government failed you. it was not the trump government: it was a government run by biden. what a terrible situation. but our government failed. to the people of north carolina, this horrible crisis. for two months, asheville lacked running water. even today, some north carolinians cannot take a hot water shower. they can't drink water. they don't know where to get it. it's delivered to them by somewhere -- they just go out and somehow find some. it's been four months since the storm made landfill, and still 180 roads remain closed and in ruins. later this month, the biden administration kicked 2,000 displaced north carolinians out
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of temporary housing into freezing 20 degrees weather. i don't know how they did that one, because it was cold, even while you're government provided shelter and housing for illegal aliens from all of the world. the days of neglect are over. they are over. as i said, in my inaugural address, we restore the integrity, competency, and loyalty of the american government. i think i said most of it in the inaugural address. we said a lot of things, but one of the groups of people i was thinking about is you and north carolina. a lot of that was in reference to you and what you have had to suffer. i am pleased to announce that under our leadership, the federal government will be surging housing solutions to the state. they go beyond temporary help -- hotel stays. the government wouldn't do it any longer which is ridiculous.
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we will get available resources and bring back bottled water, make your infrastructure dramatically more reliable very quickly. today, i will also be signing an executive order slashing all red tape and bureaucratic barriers and permits to ensure the rapid reconstruction of the roads here in western north carolina. we will go through a permitting process which is called no permitting: just get it done. that's the way they built it many years ago. i guarantee you that. will get them back very quickly and will begin the work of fundamentally changing, terminating, or overhauling fema. fema has been a disaster no matter where they are. we are honored to be joined today by several families affected by the vicious storm. i would like to ask each of them to st -- share their story. chris and kam west, ramona nix, jackie mitchell, and -- this family. come on up and maybe say a few
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words. inc. you very much. hello. come on in. >> whenever it started, we started moving our vehicles to the top. by the time we got the vehicles moved, water had already hit our -- and the house. i grabbed my purse and my little pug dog, and my husband grabbed dog food and put it in a trash bag. by the time i got into the driveway, it was already waist deep and there was sticks and that kind of thing. i didn't think i was going to make it, but we did make it out. we made it to the top of the road and we were kind of stuck there for hours. we couldn't get out any other
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ways because it floated all the way around. it took us hours, and we sat there, and finally, it receded enough to where we could actually get out. it was probably close to midnight, and it started like 5:00-6:00 in the morning. we just lost everything we had. didn't even have a brush for like three days. so, thank you. >> would you like to say something? >> when the hurricane storms hit north carolina, hit our home, my daughter and wife and i were actually out of town. unfortunately, my dad was still home and my mother was staying at our house with our animals. the waters got so high that it
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lifted between that and the tornado that came through, lifted his home and the house that i grew up in and crashed it into our barn. it took away his business -- it took away his business. it took away all of our tools, tractors and everything needed to keep the farm going. my mother was trapped in the house. there was no way to escape because the water got so high. the only thing she could do was write it out and wait until the waters came down. we have been doing battling with our insurance and fema. we did have proper insurance with flood insurance and homeowners insurance. since we had proper insurance, fema has not been able to assist us with a lot of things. we have been having some issues with trying to get some payout for our insurance in a timely manner. we had to do home mitigation on
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our home, which is extremely expensive, before structural engineering came out to get our payout. to me, that was not acceptable. >> president trump: has the insurance company being responsive or no? >> not so much. >> president trump: will they give you the money that they -- >> i'm hoping so. we need some assistance with that. we reached out to an attorney. >> president trump: what is the name of the insurance company? >> north carolina farm bureau. >> president trump: that's terrible. >> yes. that's what we are after. >> president trump: -- the insurance companies, general? different insurance companies? they are all difficult. just this particular one? >> i've heard different stores from others. a lot of folks -- >> president trump: nonresponsive? >> i have heard some good instances of firm even farm bureau themselves, but in my case, they would send out a third-party adjuster immediately. wound up firing that third-party
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adjuster. he gave us a quote for a much higher estimate than what we received. then he got let go, fired. they brought in another third-party adjuster to lowball us. we have not received any kind of -- so the flood insurance is our primary insurance. leaks in the home that the inspectors found, the adjuster's. that contributed to us losing some of our personal parties that come in the third story -- or second-story living space. well above the floodwaters. they neglected us -- >> president trump: safe? >> yes. she is right here. we made it. >> president trump: not exciting, right? how scared were you? did you think you were going to make it? >> no. >> president trump: you didn't think so? >> no, started praying.
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>> so you will -- >> president trump: so you are sort of on a boat. the house became a boat. >> a big pontoon. >> president trump: i bet this guy would like to say something. >> i was next door to the house. my son was out of town. came in to show it to my sisters. about 2:00 in the morning. at midnight, the water was still -- and then the banks. so when he called, the water was coming up. i started moving vehicles until about 5:30 in the morning. she was in the house. i pulled up to the steps and set "hop on the fender and i will get you out." he built a beach house on stilts five times higher than the
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floodplain. she said "he said i will be okay. i'm staying with the dogs." so i went to high ground with some vehicles, hers included. the water covered everything. i had already seen it come around both sides of my place. i got my blind and deaf dog, a bag of valuables, and took up off the side of the hill behind my house. and then, was heading to the cemetery back there, because i knew it was over. there were trees falling and uprooting. it was raining. >> president trump: did you -- >> no. i've been through floods all my life around here. never this. >> president trump: but you are okay? >> yes. house is destroyed.
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>> president trump: we are going to help you out. >> appreciate it. >> president trump: art -- okay? >> our day that morning began a little taller. with some trees falling into our house. our house goes back four generations, 80 years. it never came close to flooding. we woke up -- about 5:00 in the morning. our house sits three tenths of the mile off the road. we have had flooding and such and the like, but nothing like we saw. like most everybody else, we moved five vehicles far up, lawn mowers and everything else. the water started coming in the house. we got up to about ankle high. tried to gather what you might want. made it to the loft and started getting up to the hips.
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a little makeshift ladder. we got out on our roof and spent four hours on the roof. i did notes on my cell phone, my two kids, my grandkids, something to identify me in case we were lost in it. [inaudible question] our house was 25 feet underwater. >> president trump: -- going to live. >> we were watching houses, trailers, bodies coming by us. we live in the azalea road area. we watched our garage float by. we got to a point where it crested about 4 feet up on the roof. we took about 3-4 hours for it so we could do everything in reverse. got out on the mud to higher ground. i got out, higher ground up to a
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subway, and over to her daughter's house, where she saw that i didn't have her, she lost it. i was like "she is okay. she is a life." we tried to make our way back in thergather things best we could. found a body right away. there were about eight bodies in our area first two weeks. we were lucky that we were not one of them. we have been blessed. but like other people, no flood insurance, so we had to depend on fema. they did what they could do. of course, it's not enough. again, we are thankful to be alive. >> what are you doing now? >> we are staying in a camper. if you notice, i'm a big guy. i don't sleep in campers very well. the first night we spent in the camper -- very grateful for the asheville dream center coming through with one. >> do you still have. >> it's family land. it looks like a beach now. it is sand. >> president trump: can it be
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built on? >> yes. >> president trump: can be be built on? >> yes. it's 80 years. >> president trump: the house is totally gone? >> no the house is totally down. they came in and muded it. everything in it was completely destroyed. i think we're at a point where people have forgotten about asheville. everything has stopped. thank you, sir. >> president trump: take care of them. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> i'm from the church down the road. we had only purchased in may. it's a big church and we are a small congregation, and people said what are you going to do with the big building and i said only god knows. and we had the dedication and the storm came next week, and
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the outpouring of people, my son brought the first load of supplies and from there -- i stayed there for about 3 months. i slept on the floor for about three weeks because the need was so great. the people were so devastated. i said i want to be here for them, and they were coming in just day and night. so there's really no need for me to go home. but we had people from kentucky, tennessee, texas, indiana, oklahoma. people from all over. we have not received any help like from the government or anything. but i said, lord, if you want us to do that -- >> president trump: so they came from all over. >> all over the states. >> president trump: fema did nothing? >> it was the -- the locals. >> wasted time and money. >> the locals and the people that knew us and before the week was over, our church was so packed with supplies we couldn't

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