>> will: live from the heartland welcome to the will cain show. white house briefing room is back. >> the trump white house will speak to all media outlets and personalities. not just a legacy media who are seated in this room. to foreign nationals who are thinking about trying to legally enter the united states, think again. >> the president is confident we will restore american dominance naia. >> this is not a blanket pause on federal assistance and grant programs from the trump administration. if you are receiving assistance you will still continue to receive that. >> will: going about 50 minutes in her first briefing, making some news on those new jersey drones. they were in the room this afternoon and she joins me now. >> when she walked up to the podium with no binder, it was clear that things were going to be different this time around. she also really did her homework. she called on everyone by name

in the room, did her research on who the press court is that covers this white house and also announced that it will be expanding, not only is the white house giving up 2 seats on the left wall that usually go to stoppers, designated for new media. they are also adding credentials. allowing anyone who does traditional -- legitimate news reporting regardless of the medium. could be social media, could be podcasts, you are now eligible to apply for credentials to cover this white house. the website she gave... they had 2 newsletters in those seats. ask eos and breitbart. definitely expanding who gets to cover the administration and the channels through which that information gets out. there were a lot of questions on the new directive that pauses federal grants and loans for a period of review. the initial memo did lead to

succumb -- some confusions about what programs would be impacted. basically it announced a pause and they had to release a new memo that made clear it's not an across-the-board pause and is limited to programs that are impacted by the president's directives, is executive orders like ending di and unleashing american energy. they said in that briefing that no individual assistance programs would be impacted including social security, medicare, welfare programs, the medicaid website portal went down and that added to questions weather that would be impacted. she tweeted that the white house had confirmed no payments were affected, they are still being processed and sent out and it will be back online soon. they also released a supplemental memo clarifying these outstanding questions and answers on what this doesn't how long it might last. finally she made good on the president's pledge to tell america what was up with the drones. >> after research and study, the

drones that were flying over new jersey and -- in large numbers were authorized to be flown to the faa for research and various other reasons. many of these drones were also hobbyist, recreational and private individuals that enjoy flying drones. end time it got worse due to curiosity. this was not the enemy. >> we did follow up and asked what research it was that these drones were doing, that they had approved. we didn't get an answer but overall the impressive first briefing from the youngest press secretary in history. >> will: i saw the back and forth on the on be pause in spending. it seemed to take up a good chunk of the time. would you describe the room, i'm curious how this will go moving forward, would you describe the room as antagonistic to caroline? we saw that with our colleague katie...

they took a very antagonistic tone. what you feel was the tone in there today? >> i think that for the most part everyone is just excited to get to cover an administration that is so accessible. i had a hard time making my way to my seat because the room was just packed with people. you were going to get from some people who are in this press court questions that are framed in a way that probably conflict with how the administration sees things. you saw that with nbc talking about whether criminal migrants who come across the border are in fact criminals because they have violated federal law of crossing illegally. the phrasing of that question did not conform with how the white house sees that issue. it was a very professional exchange that they had an overall she and the administration are showing that they are committed to being transparent by having so many of these press conferences with the

president himself, expect to see him later on this week. >> will: tough questions are fine as long as they are honest questions and not just looking to create a viral moment. those rotating seats for new media, will they rotate? you mentioned breitbart and ask eos, is not going to be permanent seats or might we see that rotate in and as it's been speculated, a seat for the joe rogan experience. >> it's unclear if the seats will rotate. today they were filled by act sales and breitbart. what we do know is the briefing is going to go to those new media seats rather than to the associated press. sara huckabee sanders did the same during her tenure as white house press secretary. the new media seat is open to credentials. i assume they are going to get an influx of tons of people including pond casters who want to be in that seat. >> will: thank you so much.

good to talk to you on the white house lawn. if the drones were simply faa licensed flights to conduct research, why couldn't that have been told to us by the biden administration? to another busy trump official today. that is kristi noem. addressing her knew staff, she did so in the last hour. after she spent time in new york city this morning or immigration enforcement. we are joined from the big apple >> kristi noem got an early start here in new york city. she was on the streets at 2 or 3:00 in the morning during these raids. we've been talking about the migrant crime for months and now those ice raids are underway. we are told they are far from over. investigators tell me they are going after the worst first. looking for criminal migrants who they say are wanted for a long list of serious crimes including assault, child sexual assault and more. these were some bad people according to the feds that they

wanted to get and get quickly. i want to show you those pictures from the secretary herself. she was out in new york city specifically in the bronx. she was on the ground in the middle of the streets. the secretary said what was she doing, exactly what president trump wanted. >> that is mime -- my committed to all of you. we will walk through every single situation together and i will prepare you as much as i can for it and we will have the flexibility to make sure that we can always keep the american people first and foremost. >> who'd they arrest? this venezuelan migrant identified by dhs... he was arrested on a few charges. kidnapping, assault and burglary to name a few. they tell me he's part of the south american gang... i've never heard of that gang so much as in the last 6 months. he had a warrant out for his arrest in connection to that takeover added -- at that

apartment complex in aurora, colorado. do you remember seeing these migrants with weapons breaking to different units. it's not just the big apple, of these raids been across the country. with so much activity on the ground, this happened as well. so where are they taking these migrants? that's a good question. some are being sent plane back to south america. you were looking at a plane that was landing in columbia after president trump threatened the president there that if you don't take your people back from america once we deport them you will be hit with tariffs. how quickly things change there. we will keep you posted on exactly what happens with these rates but we are told they are going to continue. >> will: thank you so much. let's dive into those raids

taking place across the country and answering the question asked by alexis, where are those illegal immigrants being taken? that brings us to our big 3. kristi noem on the streets of new york city. this is your dhs secretary showing leadership on the front line. in a way that the inaccessible previous administration never exhibited. it's not just happening in new york and denver. it's happening in los angeles, phoenix, chicago, san diego, miami, atlanta, seattle and various cities across texas. that brings us to number 2. it's had a tangible effect on border enforcement. i want to share some numbers today. that highlight the success of a heightened activity at the border in deportations and/or american cities. 582 illegal crossings on monday. they said that's unheard of. it was 1200 to 1400 per day in the last week of the biden administration but if you rewind the clock a couple of years, it

was 11,000 a day. down to 582 illegal crossings. in december of 2023, 4000 crossings in that sector alone. sunday, 60. how about what's happening in american cities, in denver, 130,000 fennel pills confiscated now part of the mission here is for us to dive deeper not only analyse the news today but look into what it could be tomorrow. that brings me to wear these illegal immigrants are being taken, what can be done. senator mike lee of utah has a fascinating idea that he has put forward today. i want you to listen to this. i think it's worth consideration. he talked about letters of mark and reprisal. what are they?

they laid out that they are issued by the government, they are commissions to authorize private citizens to perform acts that would otherwise be considered piracy like attacking enemy ships during wartime. so a commission for private citizens, a.k.a. privateers, to go start illegal activity and in turn get -- stop illegal activity and get a cut of the loot. it hasn't been done for over 100 years. how would it work? congress can authorize according to lee, issue letters of marque and reprisal. authorizing private security firms or civilians to intercept cartel operations. they... why is this a possibility, why should this be necessary? maybe it's not. there are unconfirmed reports that mexican drug cartels are now threatening deportation flights back to mexico.

i can confirm for you that fox san antonio had said the mexican drug cartels are lining explosives along the american border. this is a problem for the last half-century of the u.s. and it's a problem specifically tied to mexican drug cartels who we know are involved in human trafficking and drug trafficking. maybe a president who is looking at innovative solutions like re-examining birthright citizenship might also consider the suggestion of letters of mark and reprisal. we are 1 full week into this border crackdown, mark twain mullen. are you ready to get a bunch of good old boys and head to the border and handled as privately? >> they all raised their hand and volunteered. when i got home my yard might be full of my buddies. when i was looking at it i thought you were going to get a lot of guys from oklahoma and texas taking up on this offer. it's going to get interesting. >> i know where you're from anchor can imagine there would

be a disproportionate number ready to handle this problem privately. >> they would do it for the thrill. >> not even for the cut. i want to ask you about a couple of things that are in the cycle today. i want to start with my former colleague and friend pete hegseth. when you ushered into his confirmation late last week. he and donald trump are talking about an iron dome for the united states. it's on the list of things they want to see. i'm curious, in your mind, why would we need an iron dome? we have oceans on either side of us. is this something we need to consider? >> i'm glad you brought up ronald reagan. this started with ronald reagan. you watch his movie it actually mentions it slightly in there. it ended up getting pulled out because of some treaty. we should be considering -- we should have the iron dome.

if you talk to most americans they probably think we do have a missile system same as what you see in israel. the truth is we don't which makes us highly vulnerable because if we do get attacked by ballistic missiles or hypersonic missiles or even nuclear, it's probably not going to be shot all the way from russia. probably not all the way from north korea or from china, its way to be shot in international waters just off our shores which isn't going to give us a whole lot of time to respond. when you start dealing with hypersonic missiles it doesn't have a projected pattern like a ballistic missile does. and has an arc that goes up and you intercepted. when you are dealing with hypersonic missiles you have to intercept quick because of the fact that it's moving quick and it's moving at an unpredictable location. if the iron dome as some think that the president needs to be ushered in just like he did space force,... now we realize that the next war will probably be fought in space because it's going to try to knock out our communication.

this is a president that's looking at future fights and a way to prevent it and keep america safe which was part of his promise to america. >> it's amazing how much they are making america great into the future. >> that's what businesses do. they look at tomorrow and that's what president trump is so good at. >> will: i mentioned you helped usher in pete hegseth. you and i have spoken that you are personal friends with tulsa gabbard. we are expecting confirmation hearings later this week, do you feel confident that your fellow republican senators will confirm tulsa gabbard, kash patel, rfk jr. >> i feel very confident on cash i'm not as confident on my very good friend told see. she's the person to get the work done. she leans into the spike -- this fight.

they are putting all their eggs and all their firepower towards her. i talked to her early this morning, she's having the conversations, she's taking the fight directly to each senator's office which is what she needs to do. she's got some headwinds and i believe we can get it done but it's going to be tough. it's going to be tough thursday when you see her in the hearings. she's got to perform really well and i know she's up to the task. we saw her in the debates, she's capable of handing hers -- handling herself permanent and i think she can perform just as good. i feel like she can get done what i'm not 100% sure we can get it done but i believe we can. >> will: our eyes will be glued to that and we are looking

for rfk jr. it's probably a very important step for america to seek and find accountability for the problems that have been involved with the intelligence agencies over the past 8 years. we both know... that a fight has to happen on the right. got to win republican votes. we will dive more into that later. always great to see you. >> will: we will be diving more into this a little bit later. first of the trump white house is saying that it's taking on pricing cost of eggs despite what is being said by the left. >> i would like to point out to each and every 1 you that in 2024 win joe biden was in the oval office or upstairs in the residence sleeping, egg prices increased 65% in this country. >> will: call it a turnaround tuesday, all 3 stock averages rallying after yesterday's tech route sparked by deep seek.

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>> i'm going to tell you all right now they do not give a damn about the cost of eggs. >> eggs in my district are $9.19 and the executive orders that we've seen this week is missing any mention of lowering the grocery crisis for our families. >> will: the squad going after president trump for expensive eggs but the new white house press secretary had something to say about that today. >> i would like to point out to each and every 1 of you that in 2024, when joe biden was in the oval office or upstairs sleeping, i'm not so sure, egg prices increased 65% in this

country. >> will: heritage economist... joins us now. an incredible american flag shirt that is just capturing your television screen. peter, the thing about inflation is once it starts its really hard to stop. it spirals. the trump administration says we are going to attack energy, unleash energy and if we can bring down the cost of transport we can bring down the price of bacon and eggs. when will that work? >> that's all true. another part is the regulation. that is something that biden has spent 4 years piling on norma's regulatory costs onto all these things. biden's money printing so all of that has momentum to it and it will take time to bring that back. as for eggs themselves, the biggest driver has been birds because of bird flu. that is a public health

question, "that's not something that trump is just going to jump in and fix within executive order. democrats are going to take every single price they can and try to pump that for all it's worth and completely ignore all of the momentum on inflation. the regulatory costs that biden put on and they will try to imagine that all these things cropped up immediately on the day that trump took office. >> will: this conversation is now being how to bow the role of tariffs. president trump even musing about ultimately sun setting income tax. you are the perfect person to address this. trump has said this more than once. this is what he's saying in regards to income tax. >> it came in in 1913. as i said in my speech last week incident of taxing our citizens to enrich foreign nations we should be terrifying and taxing foreign nations to enrich our citizens.

>> i believe these tariffs, you can call it whatever you want in terms of trying to gussy it up. they are going to be paid for by our workers and small businesses >> i would respectfully disagree the history of tariffs and tariff theory does not support what you are saying. traditionally, we see that the current -- if we were to use a number that has been thrown around in the press of 10%, then traditionally the currency appreciates by 4%. >> will: that was your current and new treasury secretary embracing the idea of tariffs. you and i, we've had long conversations about this golden age of america from about 1880 to 1921 there was no income tax and the government was funded off of tariffs. is that realistic in modern america? >> i've been very excited that trump has kept talking about this issue.

its something that he brought up during the campaign that he wants to replace the income tax. to completely get rid of it. replace it with tariffs. a lot of people said that selection talking, it's not going to happen. here we are and he will not let it go. he wants to do that. he's got the department of external revenue that he wants to replace the irs with to make foreigners pay for. it's very realistic. the key here is that if he were to lay down something like 20% across-the-board tariffs, you could raise something like $730 billion a year to the federal government just from import tariffs. if you are trying to replace the entire income tax, the rate is something like to .1 trillion so you would have to cut spending. trump wants to do that, he tried that in his first term. every single budget in trump 1.0 he tried to enact massive cuts

to spending every single time congress said no. trump has been trying to cut spending all along. if you compare that with tariffs you would massively grow the economy. that would be deflationary, it would cancel out the tariffs and much more. >> will: you have to bring in government spending cuts, institute tariffs and then you can may be phased down at least the role of the income tacks in supporting the federal government. it's worthy of deep historical analysis. you should check him out when he's on the streaming version of the will cain show. heck of a shirt, thanks for being with us. >> had to do it. congratulations well. >> will: thank you so much. next up for president trump's cabinet picks, rfk jr. will he faced the same headaches as pete hegseth?

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>> will: robert f. kennedy jr. is meeting with senators today i have is meeting tomorrow. we have the pulse of it on capitol hill. good afternoon. >> there is significant consternation that he lacks the votes to be confirmed. that's why he's on capitol hill now. he met mike lee in the top democrat on the finance committee. >> i cannot recall a nominee more dangerous to the health of americans then mr. kennedy. he's neither a doctor or scientist or a public health export nor policy expert of any kind. when i met with him he would not answer many questions directly saying he would defer to the president who also is hardly not -- a health expert.

>> it's unclear if all democrats could oppose rfk jr. he faces a sceptical chairman in bill cassidy when he appears before the senate health committee thursday. cassidy is a doctor. he says rfk jr. is wrong on vaccines. here's where it gets dicey for kennedy. mitch mcconnell could vote no. he suffered from polio. he also opposed pete hegseth. republicans are not backing off any of the president's nominees. >> they can do this the hard way or the easy way. if they want to obstruct and delay we will continue to grind and grind. we will do that through the weekend if necessary. >> kennedy could face blowback from midwestern republicans that's because of his demand to cut high fructose corn syrup in food. it's about the math. if all democrats are opposed he can only lose 3 boats on the g.o.p. side. >> some follow-up questions for you. betting odds when i looked this morning for whatever they are

worth, or something like at 80% for kennedy. you just laid it out. if this follows the same path, you laid out others, bill cassidy. thom tillis is deeply connected to the pharmaceutical industry. mr. -- midwestern senators connected to an. what are the betting markets seeing, this math seems to be defined with you and i write now. >> it's 1 that's right on the edge right now. you talked about midwestern senators. you met with the republican senator from north dakota. he wanted assurances on agriculture. we talked about high fructose corn syrup, there are pro-life senators out there. james langford, you talked about the pharmaceutical industry. could he to get democrats, we don't know bernie sanders and others have maybe indicated that they might be interested in voting for rfk jr. but we just don't know. it's going to be very telling to get through those committee

hearings. the finance committee tomorrow and then the health committee on thursday. he wouldn't still be meeting if they felt they had this nailed down. >> will: i had a conversation with senator mark wayne mullen about these nominees. he expressed less optimism about his friend and somebody he supports, at tulsi gabbard and rfk. is that what your hearing? >> that's probably the nominee that's the most in trouble and might not even get out of the committee. it probably is a jump ball with rfk jr. republicans will probably stick together on kash patel and it tells a gabbard, that's the problem. >> will: thanks for the update, appreciate your time. is the united states in deep trouble with deep seek? we will try to answer that as china makes what some are calling a sputnik moment when it comes to ai.

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>> will: now to a story we touched on yesterday but i

wanted to spend some more time today because i think it's very important that we might dive deeper. it's a story of deep seek. it's a small company out of china that's causing big headaches. caroline levitt addressed it today. >> the president said that he believes that this is a wake-up call to the american ai industry , that last administration sat on their hands and allowed china to rapidly develop this ai program. so president trump believes in restoring american ai dominance. >> will: what is it? it's an anti-model that appears to be on par or better than industry-leading models here in the united states. the key is it was built at a fraction of the cost. it's also something my next guest knows all about. china is either changing the geopolitical landscape or they are lying. the cofounder and ceo... he joins me now.

your fellow tech entrepreneur has called this a sputnik moment. that's the reference to the russians putting a man into space. it launched the american space race. this is a great leap forward for china. when it comes to ai. before we get into weather are not they are lying, why would it matter if they totally disrupted what happening in ai? >> what you see is united states has had such a strong position in building models, building the infrastructure for models, our dominance in developing gp use, dominance and funding new companies in the space. so what has happened quietly over the last few months and over the last couple of weeks is we've seen that deep seek is not just something that's been released by potentially a small company are by china, but what

it shows is its a pretty proficient model. it's pretty capable. it shows that it has advanced reasoning capabilities, it can be used and has been focused on certain things like math and language. it's left us all stepping back and saying if it's not the sputnik moment at least china is here. this is a little bit of a coming out party. behind that is where all the questions and the complexities come in. >> will: specifically whether are not this whole thing is fraud, whether are not they are lying. let's assume that they are not. the real key is not just that deep seek is good but at hashmak but that it's cheap and it's undercut the entire business model in the united states. the need for all these chips and data centres, they built it for 1 20th of the cost. that's what they are saying. if they win and dominate, i guess what i'm wondering is why

is that so important to america? is it because they controlled the potential for thought, we all ready know that deep seek won't deal with questions about tiananmen square, it won't deal honestly with those kind of questions so is that the real fear? if they win this ai race they control artificial intelligence which controls the information flow to our minds. >> you can bucket them into 2 categories. first is more organized around have they cheaply trained this model with some processes that they've described loosely in some papers but there's a lot of speculation on how they did it. i think that has a profound effect. if they were lying, but it is still... they actually built a really high quality model for a fraction of the cost of what we are seeing with some of the current developers. why that's important is right now the major corporations in

the united states, whether proprietary organizations like openai or companies like meta are the ones that have the gp use, all the infrastructures. if you can cut that down it allows for all new types of ventures to come into the world, whether they are smaller companies or sovereign nations. the second part of your question is really more focused around whether are not they will control ai and how we are thinking. a deep seek did release the top downloaded app that's in the apple store today and it's something you can go and check against. is this tiktok 2.0 all over where instead of just our videos and thoughts and dance moves, we are asking corporate level questions that might be sent over to china. it opens up a very different can of worms on how we might use the model.

also open it up so this model could be open source, downloaded and brought into companies by themselves. and then delivered and put in a more secure environment. >> will: so i like the analogy to tiktok. a chinese trojan horse. you made an important point. they made this open-source. is there an argument this is good for free speech? while meat -- we might not trust them in particular, if it is being made cheaply and it's open-source that's better than it being dominated by openai are meta. it makes it so you are anybody else can create competing ai and allow for free speech to flourish. >> i it's a fantastic point and something that's going to drive real debate. artificial intelligence, this hasn't been just launched 2 years ago when chatgpt happened. there's been institutions that have slowly built out capabilities that have basically

published in the open domain and a lot of a lot of techniques are really well-known. i think the short answer is meta's open sourcing models today. you have a company in france open sourcing models. it can help a community flourish to your point, when you talk about tiananmen square, you have to start to understand and think about what's behind some of these really complicated models and we don't quite yet know with this model. >> will: that's not an argument to trust them in particular but a field full of cheap competitors. i know you don't know the answer to my last question and... you should go check him out. it all could be alive, did they really make it for that cheap? fascinating conversation, think you so much. more from the will cain show next.

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♪ ♪ >> will: welcome back. we've got a few stories today that make you stop and think. you cannot be serious. i didn't write that. i didn't name it that. here to help us tell those stories is kat timpf. all right, kat, thanks for joining us. first up, democrats in congress are bringing in emotion regulation specialists to help cope with trump's return to office, kat. >> oh, man. so i am nine months pregnant, so my emotions are about as unregulated as ones can possibly be. so i guess there is nothing wrong with seeking help, but this did give me a little more of the five of the teacher wheeling the tv into the classroom so you don't have to get any work done. because it was part of this big workshop type of thing, how helpful is this going to be? i would say that their goal needs to be to actually be able

to work with republicans, to accept the fact that trump is the president for the next four years. if this is going to help them do that, then great, but i'm not so sure. >> will: but i'm with you. and this isn't because i have bought into modern-day therapy society, but rather because they acted insane the first time around. like legitimately insane. so you might see someone, so now they have, they brought in a psychotherapist or a psychiatrist, emotional support might be needed to handle it differently this time with trump. topic number two, kat. i don't know if you are at this party or in d.c. during the inauguration but look at this party the night before the inauguration. there is the cover of the "new york" magazine. you can see it is in the white frame. that is a bunch of good-looking people in butte of outfits all smiling and having a good time, but the headline is "the cool kids table" and they go on in "new york magazine" to write basically the story is a bunch of white people and it is all of their plans be cruel. put it back up real quick if you wouldn't mind, i want to point this out to the audience, look

beyond the white frame, you see, this is the full picture, right, look at the circles on the left. that is three black dudes. they framed it -- >> over another person's face wasn't white. >> will: you can see that. >> it was quite clearly on purpose that they cropped it that way. though if you need to crop something a certain way, then what you are writing, you are hiding reality. just to think that nobody would point that out is quite arrogant, also. >> will: there is a meme about this, the media zooming in on something, it looks like the victim is the assailant when it is actually the assailant is the victim, whatever. it is because that is what they specifically did here, they zoomed into distort reality. >> i am a writer, do some research, actually, i wasn't right about that or actually the research i am doing doesn't line up with what i thought reality

was. it can be tough to scrap everything, but that's what you got to do, okay? that is what you've got to do. i understand how hard it is. it is better than it is to continue to push a false narrative. >> will: last story with you here. captain america actor anthony mackie is saying -- i don't know if he is the new captain america but the start of the new captain america franchises, and he is saying, for me, captain america represents a lot of different things and i don't think the term america should be one of those things. he talked about integrity and being a man of your word, but look, captain america the value of america, that is what makes him captain america, not captain integrity. >> i feel these movies are more for boys, but from what i candy do's from words, i would say that captain america is about america. he might have thought he had something there, but even i know that and i am just a girl who watches different movies.

>> will: i think he is falcon, may be falcon has turned into captain america, they are wearing kind of a similar outfit, i'm not for sure. >> you will not see me at comic-con. >> will: but i will see you tonight on "gutfeld." thank you so much, kat. it is time for "will of the people," your feedback making this a conversation. larry on x says you are spot on about everything but what separates you from others is to tie a power not with your tie. shows confidence and knowledge. hook 'em, larry. mandy says about the show, some of it i like, some of it i have muted, can't take liberal nonsense and i'm not a sports fan, the rest is good. thank you for what you like, mandy peered another user says always watched "kudlow," maybe i will now dvr "the will cain show," however you are watching, we enjoy you watching us from the heart of america. "the five." ♪ ♪ >> jesse: hello, everybody.