>> bret: take a look at this. this is a miles long cluster of more than 1500 dolphins seen swimming across caramel bay in california nearby whale surveyors were mesmerized because this type of dolphin typically travels in group only 10 to 30. this is 1500. researches said it looked like the animals were having a big party. tomorrow on "special report." confirmation hearings for president trump's nominees to run the fbi and the nation's intelligence community, we will bring those to you live and have a wrap up at the end of the day. remember, if you can't catch us live set your dvr 3:00 p.m. on the west coast and 6:00 p.m. in the east. thank you for inviting us in your hongt. that it for this "special report," fair balanced and still unafraid. "the ingraham angle" is next ♪ >> good evening, everyone, i'm laura ingraham. this is "the ingraham angle"

from washington tonight. as always, thank you so much for joining us. >> this is a fox news alert. donald trump gets his first legislative win. it's a law that criminal illegal aliens to be detained. >> in a few moments, the laken riley act will become the very first bill that i proudly signed into law as the 47th president of the united states. [applause] >> laura: awesome moment and laken riley's mom was there it was a tier jerker today. plus what has chuck schumer so hot and bothered? >> donald trump with his cruel policy has aroused the american people. >> laura: and trump rehomes illegals. >> have 30,000 beds in guantanamo to detain the worst criminal illegal aliens threatening the american people. >> now, where did i hear that suggestion? we're going to have more on that in moments. first, maha takes capitol hill. that's the focus of tonight's

angle. first, he laid out the facts. >> my uncle was president, 3% of americans were released. today 74% of americans are obese or overweight. no other country has anything like this. in japan, the obesity rate is still 3%. and epidemics are not caused by genes. genes may vulnerability but you need an environmental toxin. something is poisoning the american people. >> laura: a compellingly accurate opening statement by trump's hhs secretary nominee r.f.k. jr. we can save countless lives and save billions in healthcare costs. if we focus on americans' health before they get sick. and sick they are. now, beyond the obvious scourge of obesity that he referenced there, accord g to the latest figures, more than 38 million americans have diabetes. that's bun b. one in 10 and

about 90% to 95% have type 2 diabetes. depression, that's been soaring. reaching new highs. nearly 29%. cancer is the second leading cause of death in the u.s., exceeded only by heart disease. one in every five deaths in the u.s. is due to cancer. now, these numbers and especially types of cancers that haven't really been hitting young people to the extent that they're now. it's heart breaking. now, much of this we are going to learn is entirely preventable. r.f.k. jr. wants americans to get back to basics. and he brushed off kind of the anti-vaxxer pretty well but democrats, they never let the facts get into the way of a good smear operation. >> the receipts show that mr. kennedy has embraced conspiracy theorist, quacks, charlatans, this is the profile of someone who chases money and

influence wherever they lead, even if that may mean the tragic deaths of children. this is a job where it is life and death for the kid that i used to work for in the denver public schools. it's too important for the games that you're playing. >> laura: and the oscar for best actor in a political drama goes to michael bennet. now, seriously, if one had to dying the condition afflicting today's democrat party, what would it be? because their minority status and president trump's popularity it's triggered their acute political psychosis. >> mr. kennedy has questioned the scientific basis for germs causing disease and the power vaccines and anti-by the particulars. >> i have never questioned that, senator. >> i will submit that. >> you are asking me not to. >> no i am not! my question is not. >> that's exactly what you are doing. >> no. look, no one should be fooled

here. >> are you supportive of these onesies? >> i'm supportive of vaccines. >> are you supportive of these -- this closing which is militantly anti-vaccine? >> i am supportive vaccines. >> bernie sanders actually had him on my radio in my car today. that, i think that blew my speaker on the passenger side. da da da da. it's just more alh. angry liberal hyperbole. the head of the hhs must believe in science. and believe the experts. >> the first 100 people you would find would be less dangerous at the head of hhs than robert f. kennedy, rnk jr. wants to quucketsd experiments on all of us. i truly believe runs hhs that millions will die. >> democrat colon, millions will

die. look, the democrats, they are in a quandary here. because, after years of claiming the mantel of the healthcare prerkts. they are now scrambling to take down the nomination of a true healthcare crusader, r.f.k. jr. party holds sacrosanct it mutilation of children and. i'm not even raising the covid issue. now, to be clear, r.f.k. jr. is certainly not a conservative. not in a lot of the issues that i care about. and he has never run a big institution before. but since when has that ever bothered democrats before in cabinet picks? >> can anyone say mayor pete? oh, so south bend is big though. and what r.f.k. jr. lacks in managerial experience he makes up for with an unwavering dedication to improving america's spiraling health with

more common sense approaches. now, that alone has helped galvanize millions of americans into the maha movement, make america healthy again movement. those people wonder why a country so rich with so many experts can be so unhealthy. what's at stake america's health either continue along the path we have been onenned or go a different way. the way that r.f.k. jr. is proposing that we actually get to the root causes of chronic disease epidemic we are seeing impacting our children. >> it's unfortunate that this has been such a political issue because r.f.k. has been appointed by trump. there is a mass majority of americans that want to see serious change in health and i think r.f.k. really helped want him to make it easier for parents to shop for their families. >> laura: parents want answers. they don't want more obfuscation. so, industry experts, lobbyists that make huge money, and they're paid by big pharma and big food.

and, of course, our own government have all failed us in the healthcare arena. so, it's time for a fresh start. and that's the angle. joining me now senator rand paul of kentucky. senator, long time, no see. it's so good to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> laura: is that a heated vest that you are wearing? >> it is winter. it is winter, laura. i mean, i have just come in from killing deer for my dinner. skinned the venison and being the great hunter that i am. >> laura: perfect. i was just wondering. just checking. senator, i don't know if you caught, you know, caught some of the out-of-hearing hyperbole today about jr. does he have a chance of convincing any of the democrats who scolded him today? >> i had hoped. so what is so disappointing is r.f.k. spent 30 years of his life cleaning up the hudson river. it's a big deal. he should be -- part of his memory and his biography is for having been a great

environmentalist and not one of him complimented him on that. not one of them gave a break spending a lot of his career doing that instead it was sort of oh, we know the science. well, not one of them has a degree in science. you know, they have got like public education public policy. not one of them is a scientist. yet they want to say he is not following the science. when all he has asked for really is transparency. he wants science to show the facts. we should have it without the presupposition of the conclusion. that's been the problem with science in recent years. they start with a conclusion and look for facts to match the conclusion. it hasn't been objective. >> laura: senator, bernie sanders asked r.f.k. jr. a question that we hear a lot from progressives. i guess he couldn't come up with a new one. watch. >> human right is healthcare a human right? >> in the way that free speech the human right? >> yeah. >> i would say it's different

because if -- with free speech doesn't cost anybody anything. but in healthcare, if you smoke cigarettes for 20 years, and you get cancer, do you -- >> laura: what are your thoughts on his answer there? >> well, you know, i have had this debate with bernie before. we have been debating this for 10 years. i tried to explain to bernie, there's a difference between a right and an obligation. as a christian i have an obligation to help my fellow man and to provide healthcare. as a physician i have an obligation through the hippocratic oath and also through my use of the hospital, the hospital asks me to treat people for free in the er in exchange for the privilege of being a doctor at that hospital. those are obligations. but a right implies that someone can knock on my door and say hey, i want free cataract surgery because i have a right to healthcare. no one really has a trite someone else's service. and he doesn't quite understand. this they misinterpret it to mean that we are somehow mean or selfish.

no. i have traveled the world helping people and removing cataracts for free but i do it as something i voluntarily and i feel good about because i chose to do it. but if someone made me do it then it wouldn't be charity anymore. and it wouldn't be of any kind of source or resource for the soul. it just wouldn't be the same and he doesn't understand the difference between charity and taxing or coercing somebody to do something. >> laura: being up there now with the republicans in the majority, can you just take us behind the scenes a little bit, senator, on what the mood is like with your deletions across the aisle? are they in need of help? i mean, should we send fruit baskets? only organic, of course? >> well, you mentioned in your opening about depression, oh my goodness. there is some serious depression. there is some scowls. there is some petulance. they are all so upset that they are protesting against department of interior, the secretary of the department of interior. they are going to stop them or commerce. no, they're just being petulant and they have been so defeated

but the one thing i have noticed in the last 100 executive orders that have come out, i don't see a lot of people protesting in boston when they arrest murderers, rapists, thugs, assailants and say you are leaving the country and put them on a plane. the whole thing with colombia having the president back down and take the people obligated to take by treaty. huge victory not only for our country but the rule of law. i see so many victories coming down that i think the democrats are going to need some kind of intervention. i'm wig to sit with them and hold hands and try to make them feel better about their losses but the american people i think are with us. >> laura: you helped remove cataracts and do that out of christian charity and help remove depression and anxiety. is there nothing you won't do out of the goodness of your heart, senator? >> i am up for humanitarian of the year. >> laura: true. >> i'm just joking. but the one thing that i would

say in conclusion about r.f.k. is that the biggest problem we face in our country is too much food. and it is obesity and it is diabetes. you said 38 million people with diabetes in your opening. that's 10% of our country. that's an enormous number. and that's all curable. weight loss cures 70 percent to 80% of type 2 diabetes. amazing. somebody needs to talk about it. >> laura: you bet. senator, as always, thank you very much. and if r.f.k. jr. does get through the committee and is confirmed his role as hhs secretary. what should he realistically try to do in that role to actually make america healthy again? to answer that question, we're joined by max lugar veer, health and science journalist, max, so if is he confirmed what should be his first move? >> oh, man a great question. rooting out the conflicts of interest in our regulatory agencies, you know, most people

don't realize this but almost 50% of the fda's budget comes from the drug industry. the pharmaceutical industry. the industry that it was tasked to regulate. and then there is the revolving door concept which we often talk about whereby, you know, high level officers at the fda one year next year cushy job the dietitian for americans committee. the committee tells americans how they should be eating for better health, preventative health, almost 50% of the committee members on this year's committee have ties with the pharmaceutical industry, the industrially, you know, ultra processed food industry. it's a huge problem. i also personally would really like to see ultra processed foods, which now dominate the american diet, 60% of the calories that you are averaging comes from ultra processed foods. yeah, i think they should be barred from being able to make health claims. the healthiest foods in the

supermarket the foods around the perimeter don't need to make claims. junk foods adorned with the red heart healthy logo that's a crime very much misleading. >> laura: brought up at the hearing. that's well and good but that's the department of agriculture. that's not what you're doing at hhs and kind of didn't brush it off completely but that was kind of where they went with that now, r.f.k. also brought up some problems facing kids, and the numbers from the cdc are just -- these are crazy, one in five children now in adolescence are obese. one in 36 have been identified with autism spectrum disorder. but in 2,000 that number was one in 150? i mean, that -- what is going on? i mean, we need it scientific answers to these questions? >> these are the precisely the questions that i think we ought to be asking.

rather than sweeping them under the rug or self-censoring or suppressing we are all together silencing critics of the fact that the vaccine schedule now requires 72 doses for children before they turn 18. i mean, it's just crazy to me that we're not even allowed to ask these questions and we're labeled conspiracy theorists when we do. it's not a conspiracy theory to compare what we are doing here in this country with what is regularly occurring, you know, in other countries. the fact that in other countries, for example, in europe they take a more precautionary approach with the food additives and vaccine schedules and the like. r.f.k. said he is not anti-vaccine, nor nor am i, nor is anybody who is pro-science, as he is as i am. but these are precisely the questions that i think we ought to be asking. i think we have historic opportunity at this juncture to ask them. >> well, this is an exciting time and parents want answers, and our country has got to get more healthy, period. for our own survival. max, thank you so much, we you have back.

and the democrats resistance, yeah, it's creeping back, even if rand paul says they are really depressed. how will trump respond,alina habba is here next with answers. ♪

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♪ >> in one instance blink of an eye in the dark of night, donald trump committed cruelest actions that i have seen the federal government do in a very long time. cutting off, shutting off billions, maybe trillions of dollars things that average american families need. >> laura: okay. this is it. democrats think they have found their resistance legs. a little wobbly they think they found them here. because of that omb memo that order that paused certain federal grants that the white house thinks may be inconsistent with the trump agenda so then it meant meals on wheels and meant head start it. meant welfare benefits. everyone was freaking out. and as a result, the white house decided to rescind the memo and offer further clarification. but did they open the door to this criticism?

joining me now is alina habba, counselor to president trump. alina, well, they think you guys opened the door by putting out a general memo without the specificity. but, where does this stand tonight? >> so, i'm happy you asked me about this. the omb rescinded their memo. their memo was what caused confusion. and i understand that. but the president's freeze is something he stands by that he is why we have entities like doge. that's why we are canceling entities like dei and stopping all of the contractor and green new deal and last administration left us with. to stop that we have to pause. the pause as we said 100 times over is not gs going to effect americans that deserve this assistance, medicare, medicaid, social security. but this is the left wing's narrative, laura, we are used to it and none other than chuck schumer himself to pick. they could have picked a new person but you, you know, their old games, old tricks, same old

people. and we heard from them and that's what they are trying to do, fear-mongering as usual. the freeze is in place. what we are doing is examining how would he be spending taxpayer money and doing what the responsible thing to do is instead of frivolously throwing money around as if it's not our own. >> laura: i worked in the white house eons ago. i know how these memos can get written and rewritten. drafted and redrafted. >> yeah. >> laura: how does that happen when an omb memo goes out that obviously left the door open for this confusion because clearly it's vetted by the white house council's office, it's read over by multiple people, so do you have any idea how that happened? because then it leaves it to people like you who have to kind of clean it up? >> answer the question the truth is we have been clear what it is and what the president wants to do. that is still standing. we have not changed the president's directive. we are going to have a freeze. yes, do i think that there was obviously an omb memo that they had to rescind to clarify?

sure. but don't forget that the reason we had to do that is because the left wing media spun it so much and put it in front of a judge who was clearly trying to make a platform for himself politically. now we are doing this to avoid that nonsense and have the american people get voted for november 5th. clear mandate that swept the entire country and that was america first and stop spending stupid money. >> billions and billions going out the door for ridiculous programs that laura. >> 50 million towards condoms in gaza for hamas. it's absurd. that's what we have stopped. and we stand by those decisions and president trump made the right decisions and will continue to do so. >> laura: lots of money to be saved. now the ladies on theview, alina, have really important agenda items to talk about like this one said there would be no wokeness here. let me explain something to you, without that wokeness, you might not have that job. she has probably been put in

there because according to donald trump she is a 10. >> laura: they are sniping at karoline leavitt who did a bang up job first day in briefing room. does this surprise you women, mean girls thing? that's what we come to expect. >> do you know what is strong women many with voices in america say this. i thought that the left wing media, i thought the liberal agenda was he supposed to be glass ceilings supposed to support each other and lift each other up. karoline leavitt is over qualified, brilliant and was well-versed and ready she answered every question. she didn't need a thick binder, whoopi, sorry, unlike our last press secretary who was put in there for die reasons, dei reasons. karoline leavitt was a part of our team during the campaign. she was a spokesperson. she did a tremendous job. it is very clear what she did on her first day she will only continue to grow and be amazing further. so, i think the hateful messages from "the view" are exactly why

we won the election. they are part of it. and i want to thank them for handing us the white house. >> laura: yeah, girl power. so much for girl power. it only goes one way. if you believe in their views on all these hot button issues, then you get celebrated. other than that, you are out of luck. alina, thank you so much. great to see you tonight. >> good to see you, laura. >> laura: for years nongovernmental organizations have been raking in big, big money. profiting off of illegal immigration. now, the free press recently found three of the most prominent ngos include global refuge, southwest key programs. and endeavors inc. they saw their combined revenue grow from 597 million back in 2019 to 2 billion by 2022. that was the last number available. now the ceos of these companies all are making over $500,000 a year. and one ceo of southwest key programs is making over a million dollars a year. so, realize this: under the

biden administration, you are unknowingly subsidizing the killing of americans, the overwhelming of our country by illegals obviously the drugs and human trafficking, all of it. we end up subsidizing it through these ngos. well, luckily, president trump is putting it to an end. >> today we are announcing that we have stopped all grant funding that's being abused by ngos to facilitate illegal immigration into this country. we're not spending another dime to help the destruction of this country. >> laura: joining me now charles marino, former dhs senior adviser. charles, we at the angle have been reporting on this for many years. focusing primarily on catholic charities and lutheran services but there are so many others across the country that are making so much money off the illegal immigration crisis. what do people need to know about these so-called charitable efforts? >> well, what they need to know

is the role that they have been playing the past four years at the request of the biden administration. specifically with the department of homeland security and the department of health and human services. and that was they were facilitating the largest human trafficking operation in the united states. they may have well been working directly for the mexican cartels. let's also remember that 350,000 missing, unaccompanied minors were facilitated by these ngos. there should be outrage here. not only from the american people but by congress. there needs to be an investigation forth with to bring these ceos to congress and find out exactly what was going on but for the american taxpayer to have to send billions of dollars to these ngos to facility the entry of illegals into this country to include criminals and terrorists is unacceptable. >> laura: i know cardinal dolan was upset with j.d. vance because he called out catholic

charities and is he a practicing catholic but, i mean, you got call this what it is, correct, charles? i mean, no one wants to criticize catholic charities but you can't be facilitating illegal immigration. >> well, especially when these charities are setting up operations south of the border in mexico and along the path of migration to educate these illegal migrants on how to gain entry into the united states. >> laura: comic books? >> what are we doing here? >> laura: well, president trump is going to put an end to this madness. >> sure is. >> laura: it's been going on for decades. charles, thank you. now trump tries to stop the left's gender mutilation complex. but the radicals are refusing do give in. ♪

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reason i'm alive. >> i'm at the social intern puts me in contact with dozen kids and teens relationship so valuable how few. children drive them to self-harming behaviors including suicide. >> laura: now, sick gender radicals, they want your kids. they want their minds and they want their bodies. the ranks of mutilated and transitioned children is growing exponentially, courtesy of the booming industry of so-called gender affirming care. this means big money for hospitals that perform these gruesome and godless procedures. the advocacy group do no harm has a searchable data base that

maps providers and hospitals providing gender affirming care. now, prestigious hospitals such as boston's children's hospital and children's national medical center made the sites dirty dozen list of the 12 worst offending children's hospitals that promote these sex change treatments for minors. thank the good lord for president trump and his executive order banning the procedure and any institutions that receive federal funding. joining me now is dr. jared ross, senior fellow at the do no harm. will this executive order really put a halt to these, you know, life altering surgeries and treatments that have done so much harm to some kids. >> we're thrilled with this executive order. this is a great start and lays the groundwork to completely abolish these barbaric

practices. these so-called child sex change procedures. >> laura: now what happens in these hospitals that results in such a huge influx of money and is it resulting from the way insurance is billed because it is really lucrative industry. much more lucrative than just run-of-the-mill tonsillectomies or arthroscopic procedures and that apparently has just really pushed these procedures through the roof in numbers. activists are taking vulnerable children and their parents and turning them into lifelong parents. these children require lifelong medications, hormones, surgeries, revisions on surgeries. this is incredibly profitable for them. >> laura: kansas is considering a bill that would ban any type of transition treatment for minors and one of the mothers

spoke out at this town hall against the legislation. watch. >> receiving gender affirming care. my son has always been the happiest child i have ever known. when he was 10 in fourth grade. that all changed. we discovered cuts on his arms and legs. the school called me and said they could no longer keep him safe. he was admitted to a psychiatric hospital as a suicide risk. after diagnosis and medications our son began to recover. >> laura: dr. ross, given your experience here, is that -- is she a concerned mother with blue hair or whatever? >> the suicide myth that we continue to hear about, you know, we have thoroughly debunked this. it's unfortunate that children are used to manipulate parents into doing these procedures. but this is a child who is

suffering, clearly suffering from a severe mental illness. selling them this false bill of goods that changing their name, their pronouns, their hair color and injecting them full of hormones and cutting off body parts will fix those problems is a complete lie. >> laura: well, it's demonic. that's what i'm going to call it just demonic. the whole thing. i can't believe this is happening in the united states. doctor, thank you. when we come back, r.f.k.'s family turns on him and the fashion world turns on melania. raymond arroyo is back he has it all. "seen and unseen" is next. ♪

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the democrats were to r.f.k. jr. today. >> laura, did i see that but you know what is more cruel? i thought it was the way his family treated him. this is his cousin, caroline kennedy, and her son jfk's grandson. watch. >> it's no surprise that he keeps birds of prey as pets because bobby himself is a predator. bobby has gone on to misrepresent why he cheat his way through life. >> everybody i'm trying to

figure out the right present to get donald trump for the inauguration. so i found a really rare animal and killed it. and i'm going to give it to him. >> this is horrible, laura. i mean to make fun of r.f.k. jr.'s condition he struggles with is really pathetic. and he is so magnanimous to the family. when we interviewed him in the past, laura, he was always saying look, big family we all disagree but we come together to use this family's -- the family skeletons and to take them out for ideological purposes that's what holidays are for. keep it in private. fight in private. i thought this was unseemly. >> laura: what did the godfather say never speak against the family? >> raymond: exactly. >> laura: what else? >> raymond: something is obviously in the water laura over there in d.c. don't turn your tap on. listen to chuck schumer trying to create his own randy word of the day. >> donald trump with his cruel

policy has aroused the american people. people are aroused. i haven't seen people so aroused in a very, very long time in terms of going trying to get this done. >> raymond: people are aroused. laura, recurring theme here in schumer. every time he talks about donald trump he is aroused. remember the senate floor speech from 2021? i do. >> senators will have to decide if they believe donald john -- donald john trump incited the erection -- insurrection against the united states. [laughter] >> raymond: i wish he knew how to quit him, laura. that's the problem there. >> laura: seeing him in the rotunda for the swearing, in he just looked like a broken man. i mean, he was broken and kind of dragging himself in there. i mean, again, you know,. >> he is aroused. over at vogue, rather than feature the first lady, a former model on their cover.

they have decided to play mean girls and attack her official portrait. this one. now vogue writes the choice to wear a tuxedo as opposed to a blazer or blouse made trump look like freelance magician. golden crusted penthouse fame so intertwined with reality television would refuse toe abandon t theatrics. what is she supposed to wear, laura? overhauls. it screams we are all biz and we don't care what you say anymore. >> laura: do you know what i love about what melania is doing with her fashion? is it's her fashion. it's her choice. it's her authentic fashion message whatever that is to her. i love it. she doesn't care -- maybe she should wear really thick, you know, thick black sunglasses and like oversized sunglasses and then she will just have it made. you know, no offense to. >> the melania portrait is clearly an homage to terry

o'neill who photographed all the james bond actors. that was the first thought i had when i saw this. >> laura: love it. >> raymond: just historical point michelle obama got a cover. jill biden got a cover. kamala harris got two covers and she was neither a first lady nor a president. in 130 years vogue has never featured a republican first lady on its cover. that seems just wrong. >> laura: just cementing the rather irrelevant nature of all of this at this point. raymond, anna won't be happy with this segment. thank you, raymond. aimed aimed i'm going to get my -- >> laura: wake-up call about china's plan to come to nate, yeah, the world. trump's a.i. czar crypto caesare d psaki joins us next. ♪ to new technologies. we're here, right by your side. [title: ontario, canada] [title: ontario.ca/partner] [title: paid for by the government of ontario]

>> releasing in a been source ai model. >> it's happening very fast. i would say we have not lost our leadership here. >> laura: move over tik tok because there is now another chinese tech firm raising national security and competitiveness concerns. if you go into the app store on your iphone right now, you are going to see that the top downloaded app is from a company called deep seek. it is an ai chat box company whose founders claim is cheaper to develop, their technology is more energy efficient. that uses less data than american ai firms such as chatgpt and openai. and even the openai ceo is calling it an impressive model, especially around what they are able to deliver for the price. but of course the ccp looms all over chinese businesses which

include statist ceiling and censorship is ever present. when you ask deep seek what happened during the 1989 tenement square protest, it answers, sorry, that is beyond my current scope. let's talk about something else. that's not good. and now the meteor cries of the communist aligned ai firm has president trump's attention. >> the release of ai from a chinese company should be a wake-up call for our industries that we need to be laser focused on competing to win because we have the greatest scientists in the world. >> laura: joining me now is trumps ai and crypto czar. david, great to see you. in an email, the navy has warned some members against using deep seek given the navy's ai policy. should any government official be downloading that app tonight?

>> i think it is prudent not to. you have to remember that any data that you enter into the app will go back to chinese servers. you have to be a little bit careful if you're going to use that half. there are american versions of this. the chinese company deep seek open sourced their model. so if you want to use -- or try it, a safe way to do that would be to use an american company like rock or others and they have their own safe posted versions of it. >> laura: david, when you said in another interview that what you believe is that through a process called distillation, that the deep seek guys took the guts of what the folks at openai were doing, an american firm, and used it to develop their model in china which is not quite as advanced but it has moved pretty fast. explain why that matters so much. >> yes, distillation is a technique that has been used in

silicon valley among ai companies for a while. it is a way of training, you could call it a child model based on a more sophisticated model. so what it would do would be the child model would ask the parent model a bunch of questions just like a real child would. and in the case of ai, the child model could ask millions of questions. so the child model learns to mimic the reasoning of the parent and it could kind of suck the knowledge out of the parent model. it is one thing if a company like openai is using distillation to train its own models but it's another thing when a third-party company like deep seek is potentially doing it because that would be ip theft. and i think this is a pretty, let's call it open secret in silicon valley that distillation occurs. about a month ago there was a news cycle that didn't really get beyond silicon valley when deep seek released it's version three model. and the stories of the time were reporting that if you ask the deep seek version three model who are you, what model are you,

it would self identify as chatgpt. in other words it had been trained on so much chatgpt output that it believed it was chatgpt. so i think distillation has been going on here for a while. and i think whether it's confirmation from openai and microsoft today that there investigating the possibility. >> laura: on a scale of one to 10, 10 being the most concern, how concerned are you as the white house ai czar about china's leap into this arena? >> i would say that before, most people here in silicon valley thought that we had about a 6-12 lead and ai models over china and i think most people would now say that that margin has now shrank to, let's call a 3-6 months. the model is comparable to the old model that openai released four months ago. that kind of gives you a sense they are closing the gap and are caught on our heels and are catching up very fast.

i think that should be concerning. >> laura: and david finally, when will we hear the announcement about the bitcoin reserve from the trump administration? everyone is waiting for that, we got the study in the review but the bitcoin reserve, texas will move forward looks like with legislation, dan patrick announced today it's a big priority for them in texas but how about the trump administration? >> there is also a bill in the senate, cynthia from wyoming has introduced a bill to create a national bitcoin reserve. president trump has asked us to study the issue so we are not ready to comment on it yet, that is one of the things our group will look at. >> laura: can't wait, thank you so much for joining us, we really appreciate it. you made it all easy to understand. that's it for us tonight, make sure to follow me on social media. and thank you for watching. as always, remember it is america now and forever and better than ever, jesse watters takes it from here. >> jesse: welcome to "jesse watters primetime". tonight...