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potomac river for survivors after american airlines plane collides with army black hawk helicopter near reagan national airport overnight sending both aircraft crashing into the dark icy water below. no survivors have been rec recovered. >> ashley: several u.s. figure skaters and coaches were on the flight returning from a camp in wichita, kansas, and three soldiers on board the chopper and terrifying audio describing the flight as it happened. >> i can go around, blackjack, can you return to the proceed, i need you to land, land immediately, can you go to dulles for a few months? can you go to baltimore? >> todd: president trump has been briefed and federal agencies are working with state and local officials to figure out what happened. you are watching "fox and friends first" on thursday

morning, i'm todd piro. >> ashley: i'm ashley strohmier. crews are searching the frigid water. lucas tomlinson is here. >> lucas: awaiting a press conference 7:30 this morning at reagan international airport. this is an active search and rescue operation ongoing. we will pan over to show you 300 first responders that are busy in the freezing temperatures of the potomac river after just before 9:00 p.m. last night. american airlines, a jet with 64 people aboard, including crew, collided with u.s. army helicopter with three soldiers onboard, including both pilots. that airliner was attempting to land on runway 33 at reagan international. moments away from landing, this collision taking place between 2

and 400 feet. the american airlines jet had just been banking over maryland. you see in the photo, they were going to land on runway 33, that corresponds with compass, slightly northwest. plane is flying from south, from wichita, kansas, banking over state of maryland and over potomac river when the collision took place and u.s. army describing the aircraft involved saying we can confirm that the aircraft was army ushg -- uh-60 out of davidson army air field fort belvoir during a training flight. we are working with local officials and will provide add additional information when available. fort belvoir typically flies

vip's around washington area, army brass. on typical day black hawks are a common sight in northern virginia. there is an air corridor above 395 and over the potomac river where this black hawk was flying last night 9:00 p.m. pentagon is located just on other side of reagan international airport. this is busy air corridor, one of the busiest airports in the country. their runways see more traffic than most airports. we have families awaiting information on their loved ones. no report of survivors. the potomac waters are freezing. it was warmer in washington yesterday, this area has seen arctic temperatures for weeks. the figure skaters onboard, we have a statement from u.s. figure skating saying u.s.

figure skating can confirm several members were aboard flight 5342 which collided with the helicopter yesterday evening in washington, d.c., athletes, coaches and family members were returning home from camp held with the championships in wichita, kansas. we are devastated by this tragedy and hold the victims families closely in our heart. we'll monitor the situation and release information as it becomes available. on tuesday, new transportation secretary sean duffy was sworn in. he rushed to the crash site to reagan national airport. there was a press conference with muriel bowser. this is located in arlington, virginia. no reports of survivors, many anxious family member upons waiting to hear about the fate of their loved ones.

we have a press conference at 7:30. >> todd: when you hear the word sadly being used and senator marshall from kansas bemoaning the fact that so many kansans died. it has been approaching nine hours and does not look good. >> ashley: to make it worse, a lot of figure skaters were teenage and preteenage. as a parent, it is heartwrenching to hear that, put yourself in the shoes of the parents. >> todd: bring in captain mike cofield, aviation expert who ran the investigation into flight 800 crash. captain, with that kind of experience, a pilot and somebody who has had to ask tough questions leading an investigation, what questions do you have this morning? >> thank you very much, my

prayers and our family prayers to the folks involved and the first responders been out there all night working and families around the country, military families or families that knew their loved ones were traveling, that is just a huge tragedy for our nation. it is important to note that senator moran from kansas is the chairman of the aviation subcommittee in the senate. he's one of the most knowledgeable and one of the most kind, members of the united states congress and he'll be in charge of the congressional side of the investigation. some things that they're going to look at starting this morning, look at the air traffic patterns, they are already available for folks. they will look at the debris field, they will look at that with sonar and look at that

where debris is and that is a dangerous thing for folks out there in the water in the morning and have been in there all night as sunrise occurs. they are going to look at those exactly where they are currently and then start piecing together what happened, where the airplane came from and look at what the crew did last 72 hours. they will look at the crew of the helicopter and see what they have been doing and look at that route. the helicopter route is widely used by the military and comes down the potomac. you can bring folks from cia, dia, or naval observa tory down the route. it hugs the maryland side of the potomac river and bypasses

reagan national. it would normally not be an issue, runway 33 is not used that much, it is only used by smaller regional jets. 26,000 hours in meyer kroo, i only landed on it a few times and thousands on the north south runway. everybody lines up coming up the river to land. like everybody is going to land on 01 runway to the north. they were asked if they could take runway 33. they agreed to that and then made the turn and then as they started to descend on the runway, the helicopter collided with the passenger aircraft. >> ashley: really quickly, one person on our channel overnight said this was a tremendous failure and will go down in history as the most investigated acc

accident, at least in the united st states. do you agree with that? do you think that the military is more at fault with this? based on what we're hearing there was visibility issues with the passenger plane that was landing. what are your thoughts on that? >> i think it will be one of the most because of nature of dca, ronald reagan airport and nature of the fact it is a federally owned airport, as we know. i do think they will look at one thing that the ntsb will look at, they'll look at history of that route. they will say, should we at certain times during the day, should we not be running a helicopter route along the potomac, unless it is an emergency. i think that will be one thing the ntsb looks at.

ntsb, when it happened, they were part of the folder pulled out at herndon, virginia, where air traffic is managed in the center. one thing they do, call ntsb for their go team. there are three members of ntsb, chairman and two other appointed members. they rotate instances. i don't know the current chairman, those are political appointments, that chairman will probably take responsibility for this. he or she hits a button and brings in people from all over the country, experts on air traffic control, experts on aircraft maintenance and those folks are the ntsb go team and they will align themselves in conversation this morning and american and psa, contracted carrier will have set up their

go teams and will coordinate with herndon and department of transportation and faa, ntsb will then manage and control from now on on this. >> ashley: a lot to talk in there, thank you for that information. a lot of i think thises we heard we've never heard before. mike coffield. i would add, if i'm sean duffy, new transportation secretary in light of what was said about evaluating this route for problems, this is no not my area of expertise, we need to eshg valuate all routes and solve problems before this happens. this cannot happen. >> ashley: how many times have we heard in last year air traffic controllers anden plas colliding, i can think of three different instances at

laguardia. everybody needs to go back to the drawing board and reeshg valuate. >> todd: if you have to wait a few extra minutes, that might have to happen. >> ashley: breaking news continues and the white house will issue response. >> todd: we'll talk to a former intel officer about what the scene is like right now, don't go anywhere. with chronic migraine? 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more. botox® prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine. in a survey, 91% of users wish they'd started sooner. so why wait? talk to your doctor. botox® effects may spread hours to weeks after injection, causing serious symptoms. alert your doctor right away as trouble swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness can be signs of a life-threatening condition. those with these conditions before injection are at highest risk. side effects may include allergic reactions like rash, breathing problems, dizziness, neck and injection site pain, and headache.

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>> ashley: breaking news coverage of the aircraft collision where an army helicopter crashed into american airlines flight coming from kansas. both actor crashed into the potomac river, so far no survivors recovered. >> todd: trump administration including newly sworn in transportation secretary sean duffy working with local and federal officials to figure out what went wrong. madeleine rivera has details. >> madeleine: good morning, transportation secretary sean duffies his department and faa will provide necessary support to help with the investigation. sean duffy had several conversations as different state, federal and local agencies coordinate response. >> i spoke with president trump and his team in the situation

room, had a conversation with secretary pete hegseth, as well, and with kansas delegation and the mayor and others in leadership, as well as governor youngkin from virginia and governor kelly from kansas. >> madeleine: there are 300 first responders on the scene, homeland security secretary kristi noem pledges resources and u.s. coast guard assisting by land and air. defense department and pete hegseth are launching an investigation, that is what he says and we hope to learn more information from a news conference taking place 7:30 a.m. eastern time. ashley and todd. >> ashley: thank you. we'll bring in former u.s. defense intel officer rebekah kof koffler. when you think about this and how many times you have flown in and out of this airport,

particularly this airport today, what were your thoughts? what was going through your head when you heard this news? this could have been anyone's flight. >> rebekah: absolutely, ashley, this is heartbreaking and god bless all the victims and their families. this airport is very unique just because it is located in the heart of the national capital area. washington, d.c. and virginia. and all the key government agencies are there, the pentagon, i used to be stationed there. central intelligence agency is very close, several military bases and it is super, super congested and restricted air space. i would always marvel at the scale and talent of those pilots who dos very, very complex

maneuvers because the runway is upper zoo, super short. literally every couple of minutes an aircraft either takes off or it lands and literally, if you are sitting on an airplane about to take off, there are a few aircraft, highly choreographed and when it takes off, you are vertically straight up and same with landing, very, very difficult maneuvers and they would do it always flawlessly. >> ashley: from intel standpoint, what are they looking at in the early stages of the investigation? almost nine hours now. >> rebekah: absolutely. so from the intelligence st standpoint, what we do all source intelligence analysis, getting information from everywhere, from satellites, from the ground, from

communication intercepts. right now it is too early to speculate exactly what happened so ntsb, national transportation safety board, which has officers there in the washington, d.c., as well as in virginia, will do a very highly intensive investigation and analysis. also as intelligence officers, we always have to think about worst case scenario. we're looking at some of the what could happen, what frequencies did both the helicopter, the black hawk and civilian aircraft operate in? was there any foreign interference? right now, all sorts of stuff going on in the digital domain, right? there is jamming that could have happened. i'm not saying it happened. as someone who looks at foreign

threats, you have to factor in because we had drones flying in and mysterious drones. we had chinese spy balloon. you never rule out any possibility. you look at all available intelligence and available data and i am 100% certain ntsb and all of the intelligence agencies will put their heads together and figure out exactly what happened and put counter measures and proper procedure to avoid this from ever happening again. >> ashley: there is speculation, just based on what we've seen and know now, do you think this is really more fault on the military and what we saw with the chopper? >> rebekah: again, it is very early to tell. i wouldn't assign blame to anybody. typically the military pilots are highly trained who are

operating in this air space. this is a primary military t transport for method of transportation in the area of senior government officials and vip, including commander-in-chief himself. suppose he needs to go, president trump, from white house to central intelligence agency, he would travel by military helicopter. any other official, cia director, if you rely on regular vehicle trans port, you can never get there because traffic is horrendous, it will take too long. tr trans port takes place everyday many times per day and this kind of thing never happens. i think something really strange

hap happened. it is probably both. it is extremely hard to land, especially at night. we would look at both sides, the black hawk pilots and the civilian aircraft pilots and exactly see what happened. we'll find that out because ntsb is excellent at it. when i got my training at central intelligence agency, they took us to the ntsb and we looked very intensively at the pan am crash. >> ashley: there will have to be investigations on every end of this. we found out russian skater and a coach were also on the plane. this is affecting everyone that -- so many ties to the people on this plane. rebekah koffler, thank you for your time, appreciate it. >> god bless. >> ashley: fbi is responding as part of over 300 personnel at

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>> ashley: if you are just joining us, we're following search and rescue operation happening in washington, d.c., crews are searching for any survivors of aircraft collision that happened near reagan national defense forum reagan international last night. >> todd: lucas tomlinson is with us. >> lucas: awaiting word from a news conference this morning. active search and rescue operation is taking place in the potomac river behind me. push in to set the scene and show you 300 first responders here in the potomac searching for any sign of survivors.

here is what we know. just before 9:00 p.m. last night american airlines jet from wichita, kansas, was about to land on final approach at raeagn national airport and it collided with army black hawk helicopter with three on board, including two pilots. as you can see in the distance, runway 33 corresponds with com compass, northwest runway airliner had to make a left turn and bank over state of maryland over the potomac. cr crj region alregional jet. 64 people onboard. u.s. army saying about black hawk, we can confirm it was army

uh-60 from bravo company 12thave ya 12thaveiation battalion out of fort belvoir during a training flight. we will provide additional information once it becomes available. fort belvoir is 14 miles south of here, that typically flies army bras around the capital region. over the nation's capitol, black hawks are a frequent sight and over the potomac river, this army black hawk was flying south when the collision occurred above potomac. flight 5342 weas on final approach about to land, pilots would have been focused on the runway. we have anxious family members waiting information on their loved ones.

right now no information on survivors. waters have been frigid in the democratic area as you saw during the inauguration. there were u.s. figure skaters on board. u.s. figure skating association says members of the figure skating team returning from national development camp held at u.s. figure skating championship and we just received word kremlin said there were russians on board the flight, as well, part of 2025 u.s. figure skating championships held last week in wichita and new transportation secretary sean duffy who was sworn in on tuesday was at a press conference at 1:00 a.m. along with mayor muriel bowser.

reagan airport. on a separate flight coming from new york, alejandro mayorkas was on board in first class, that plane was diverted and returned to new york and mayorkas was seen getting off with his security detail. taking you back to the scene, active search and rescue in the potomac river. there are no sign of survivors. >> ashley: in reference to russian skaters, apparently the russian coach and the ice skater, they were married and then you talk about the ice skaters, the u.s. figure skaters, preteen and teenage age. it is horrific to think about. i want to ask you a question, whenever these pilots of the black hawk take this route, how long are they training before they do something like this?

>> lucas: army helicopter pilots have to stay current, certain number of flight hours per month. part of training is to fly at night. these flights are very routine here in the nation's capitol ital. it is not uncommon for a black hawk to come overhead 100, 200 feet. with the pentagon on the other side of the airport black hawks routinely deliver army generals, different flag officers from different services. it is not uncommon. it is a congested air space and large air space. black hawk, you think it would have seen this airliner landing at reagan. for an airliner, red and green lights, it would have had bright

white light on the nose gear and on final approach, it seems like both aircraft clearly missed each other. the pilots onboard were likely focused on landing, just seconds from touching down. >> ashley: seconds could have avoided something happening. >> todd: bring in former assistant fbi director, chris swecker. we have focused on this horrific incident from pilot perspective and from the army defense perspective. i want to focus from the fbi perspective. at this early stage, are you confident that this was human error and not something nefarious? >> yeah, i don't think anybody knows that. fbi and ntsb will look at several different things to rule it out.

first thing of course is terrorism, doesn't appear based on facts we're hearing now that that is the cause of this accident. we have to look at potential for criminal negligence. several flights and crashes that -- one i was personally involved in charlotte, north kar l caroline a, they focused on criminal negligence in maintenance of aircraft, manufacturer of the aircraft, et cetera, falsing documents. in 2021, bogeing was charged criminally. fbi is involved in grim task of identifying the victims. evidence response team is the best out there and they'll be there for that purpose, as well. >> todd: when it comes to ruling out terrorism and intentional acts, how will the fbi go about

ruling out anything intentional? >> well, the first thing they look at is who is on the airport. that is what we did after 9/11, i was part of that task, as well. do background on each passenger to see if any of them have involvement with terrorist activities. we have a no fly list. that has been tried, several plots thwarted. the manifest itself, look to see if radar showed any objects go from the ground to the air. in new york, that was initial suspension, they had thought that plane was shot down. they will look for bombs on the aircraft, forensic.

they bring a lot to the table. ntsb is not geared to look at terrorist aspect of a plane crash, they will work together. >> todd: you are extremely well sourced being in position you were as fbi director. are you hearing anything right now that you can share with urs? >> i am not. they are busy at work, it is fog of war. just my background skills and experience tell me this was some type of error involved here. you can't rule anything out at this point. >> todd: we'll see. chris swecker, thank you, it is important we don't jump to conclusions. thank you, sir. crews dealing with extremely dangerous conditions as they search for survivors, conditions include icy water and freezing temperatures. >> ashley: we'll explore how the weather will affect the search. arghh! ♪ arghh!

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>> todd: fox news alert. temperature in dc expected to drop below freezing as search and rescue continue on the potomac. >> ashley: the water is icy as rescuers search for survivors. officials say the dark, frigid

water is posing significant challenges for divers and it could take several days. janice dean has the fox weather forecast. >> janice: i woke up this morning, i was concerned weather might have played into this issue c. we had gusty winds yesterday. but winds were light, it was a clear night. we're dealing with extreme water temperatures and will not take long for hypothermia to set in. water temperature 35 degrees, hipothermia possible within 15 minutes. it will be tough to get in the water and stay in the water for a long duration. when they do after action review, they will look into if

whether played part in this. we did not have snow, we did not have gusty winds and visibility was good. temperature 42. wind light, viz iblth 10 miles, i don't think weather will play into this. we had an extreme freeze last week. temperatures in single digits with wind chills and ice on the potomac. temperatures have warmed up this week. there is your forecast for next several hours. we'll get an update. flights will be disrupted today throughout the week until they open again. weather as far as i'm concerned, was not a factor. however, rescue efforts in the potomac will be an issue. >> ashley: it was a clear night.

thank you. and flight attendant union says two members were onboard the plane at time of the collision. >> todd: cheryl casone joins us, you have a background in aviation, you were a flight attendant, your thoughts? >> cheryl: i've been messaging with my pilot friends to talk about this. i want to make a couple things clear. pilots have to get extra training to fly in and out of reagan, like in detroit city. having said that, planes were landing every two minutes in 15 minutes leading up to flight 5342. as far as onboard, they were 300 feet above. you are ready to land, it was likely the final flight for the night, everyone buckled in, you are strapped in, body harness on and this was the final moments. as far as communication

component, we can talk about that. pilots, you are all talking to each other and know where -- you know where planes are around you and who -- if somebody did not clear the runway in time beneath you, you know it, you go up and avoid landing. 2.9 million passengers fly everyday in this nation, 45,000 flights in this nation. this is business as usual, until it is not, like what we saw last night. whether water landing, fire, depressurization event, flight attendants and pilots were trained for anything, this was an unforeseen tragic moment. >> todd: you mentioned communication, let's hear communication between what appear to be helicopter involved and air traffic control. listen. >> flight.

-- >> todd: and then -- >> cheryl: pat 25 is the helicopter. >> todd: correct. they did acknowledge they saw the plane, was that just a plane? there was another plane we saw on that scene from the kennedy camera. did they potentially see a plane, acknowledge the plane and it was the wrong plane? >> cheryl: we don't know. it is dark, so only thing -- only way to identify another aircraft whether it is small, commercial, private, helicopter, et cetera, is by lights on the plane. commercial jets do have multiple lights on them. again, you have a busy time in the moments leading up to this accident going into reagan. the communication is where my questions are and i know that will be fleshed out in the

investigation. ntsb is on the ground. american ceo is likely on the ground. this is the part it will take days and weeks. remember miracle on the hudson? planes don't just land in the water scomb they are okay. we have not had a fatal aviation incident in 16 years. until last night, it was a safe mo moment in our industry until this happened. prayers to the families. >> todd: catch cheryl on mornings with maria, we appreciate it. we are working to learn what caused the crash between black hawk and passenger flight with 64 people onboard. >> ashley: senator mike brown will tell us what we knows this morning. plaque psorias is or active psoriatic arthritis symptoms can sometimes hold you back. but now there's skyrizi,

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anything to do with the very unfortunate incident that occurred last night. >> this is a tragedy. what we're seeing right now is what happens if you have a lack of communication or a misunderstanding. it is a very busy airport but my suspicion is that this tragedy is one that number one we start out by looking at the families. we take care of the families. we take care of and we thank the folks who are trying to respond as quickly as possible. but, second-guessing. i suspect when everything is and the dust settles, the chances are really good that they will talk about a lack of communication between the aircraft. >> todd: you are on two very powerful committees like i mentioned in the introduction. intel and armed services there in the senate. what role do you think those committees to play in the investigation? >> i think most of this will settle with the department of transportation, the faa and most certainly there is an ongoing

process with professionals in place already within the department of transportation. so, look, i think this is probably going to be one in which the faa will take the lead role on it but they will try to learn everything they can about what happened, the communications that were occurring. whether or not there were any mechanical breakdowns, avenue on nics that maybe didn't work. anything along that line at all. i'm sure that it will be comprehensive in nature. these folks are professional. they will do everything they can to find out what it is. i don't believe that you're going to find intel, other than the armed services with the fact that we have an army aircraft involved with the sc sikorsky. that particular helicopter coming out of an army base. some question what went on with that aircraft itself. most of this will be aviation. folks that are professionals and take a look at it from what happened in flight. was there communication. was the communication accurate and so forth? >> i think that's where the vast

majority of the information or discussion is going to occur. >> todd: you are likely right. less than 10 hours from the horrific incident. it does appear communication is the prime suspect at this point. you know in a moment like this, the american people, they want answers but they also want reassurance that something like this won't happen again. and they look to their elected leaders for that so, knowing how congress works, is there anything congress can do to make sure nothing like this happens again? >> first thing you do is allow the professionals to do their job. provide them with the resources, make sure that they are properly led. but allow them to get the job done in an appropriate fashion. sometimes congress or any elected body can started asking questions or get in the way of a allowing those professionals to gather the data appropriately. i do have faith in the folks that work as professionals in this particular field. they will find out what happened. they will work their way through all of the different

alternatives and so forth. and then it will be a matter of whether or not there is a change or an additional amount of resources that are needed, perhaps some changes in terms of the rules that govern the flights up and down the potomac in this very, very busy area. but, the national transportation safety board will have a say in it and they will be reviewing -- this is a terrible tragedy. right now we hold those families close. we think about them. we think about the crews and also those first responders that have been out there all night long. take care of them and recognize they are all trying to do the best job they can. and do our best not to get in their way over the next couple of days. >> todd: understood. senator michael rounds, thank you, sir. obviously we had the senator on to talk about the events on capitol hill. all of that is not important right now when we think about these lost lives. >> carley: no. >> todd: "fox & friends" continues our coverage right now. ♪ steve steve it is 6:00 in washington, d.c.