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trum>> president trump: we do kw you had two planes at the same level, a helicopter and a plane. that shouldn't have happened. and we'll see. >> when americans take off in airplanes, they should expect to land at their destination. that didn't happen yesterday. that is unacceptable. so we will not accept excuses. >> the military does danger

things, it does routine things on a regular basis. tragically last night, a mistake was made. the president is right, there was some sort of an elevation issue that we have immediately gone investigating at the dod. >> john: recovery operation and several investigations underway as an american nightmare unfolds outside of the nation's capital. the national transportation safety board set to brief in about 45 minutes' time after an american airlines regional jet had a black hawk military helicopter collide at about 9 o'clock last night, and plunged into the potomac river. everyone on board was lost. welcome back to the second hour of "america reports." i'm john roberts on the banks of the potomac river. give you an idea of where we are, west potomac park and west side of the d.c. river and a mile north of where the accident took place was right off haines point where the anticosti river

and the potomac river come together and aircraft and you see some continuing to land when they fly north to south and fly a river route that is called because of restrictions and security. they fly a meandering path down, and when they get to gravelle point, they take a hard land and the other way, and it's a hard landing, runway 33, and go over joint base anticosti and take a significant left hand turn and coming shorthand final for the runway and that's where the helicopter and the regional jet track include met at 100 feet of height. sandra. >> i'm sandra smith and you are looking live at washington. and we're going to see the jarring moment the aircraft collideed and a warning that this is hard to watch.

and that is the spark and that is when the collision took place. when you saw it blow up in the sky, the american airlines flight was coming from wichita, kansas, and it was making its final approach into reagan national airport, and as we know now, 60 passengers and 4 crew members were on board, john. >> john: you know, the black hawk that it collided with was on a training flight with three crew members who had a combined 1500 hours in the air, and the transportation secretary sean duffy recently confirmed said everything leading up to the crash was completely routine, and the flight conditions were also clear. it was breezy but nothing that commercial aircraft or army helicopter couldn't handle. >> what we do know, and pilots who are reminding anyone who has flown through the area before, this is an incredibly congested area and there is limited airspace to maneuver should

there be a complicated situation. we have fox team coverage for you right now. john scott is here. he has his expert analysis, but first, lucas tomlinson, he is in alexandria, virginia for us right now, and what are you seeing now? >> sandra over the past few hours, we've seen numerous helicopter and the u.s. park police combing the shoreline of the potomac, and flights resumed at reagan national airport, but not the aviation brigade based at fort belvoir where the black hawk launched from and the ill-fated flight. we heard from president trump, and he seemed to be blaming the helicopter crew for that collision. >> president trump: but the people in the helicopter should have seen where they were going. i can't imagine people with 20/20 vision not seeing, you

know, what is happening up there. again they shouldn't have been at the same height, and going in the reverse directions or sideway directions. >> so the investigation is ongoing, and trump said dei could have played a role, and the word could have come too late, and the defense secretary said that the flight and the helicopter at the same altitude when the collision took place. >> sandra: thank you. see you shortly, and now governor youngkin is giving an update at a news conference right now. >> as we lament and cry and search for ways to express our sorrow, father, we ask for your grace upon each on of these 67 souls. father, we ask you to comfort

their families and bring your peace. father, we thank you for the amaamazing first responders who gave everything they could in order to save lives. we ask you to help them recover all of the bodies of these lost souls. and finally, father, we ask you to bring peace to these families, and help us understand what we need to do to pray and do to bring resources to help them through the tragically horrific moment. father, we thank you, and pray this all in your all mighty name, please be seated. human trafficking is possibly the most vile -- >> governor youngkin -- this was a planned news conference on another subject. but, of course, considering what happened, he decided to lead that with prayer for the

victims. a moment that we all take in as we grieve the loss of so much life, john. >> john: yeah. i know, it's just -- it's terrible to think that the folks were looking at the airport as they made the turn for the short final. and i've been in that situation so many times. thinking back home again and then that horrible tragedy happened. let's bring in john scott, fox anchor, himself an experienced pilot who has tremendous expertise in all of this, and john, you've been looking at the air traffic control tapes, and listening to the transmissions between the aircraft and the air traffic controllers. what do you know about what happened? >> any kind of air disaster like this is rarely a case where one thing goes wrong. it's not the airplane goes up in the air and the wing falls off. and it's one thing leads to another leads to another and leads to another and that is the situation here. and one thing that stands out to me, and the air traffic

controller -- i'm not trying to assign blame. there is plenty of time for that. the air traffic controller asks the helicopter pilot if he can see the regional jet and that's all he asks. he should say -- what you normally say, do you see the regional jet at your 12 o'clock or at your 10 o'clock. it is my belief that the chopper pilot was looking at a jet in the sky and thought it was the one he was supposed to be passing behind. when, in fact, he was looking at the wrong jet. the other thing that happened is that at the last minute, the traffic controller reassigned the inbound jet from runway 1 to runway 33. that meant he had to -- the pilot had to make about a 40° turn, bank to the left. so as he was banking, he or she would have been showing the belly of the airplane to the helicopter pilot. the helicopter pilot was basically looking -- would have

been basically looking at the side of the aircraft, the wing line, not many lights there. pretty hard to see. >> sandra: wow. i mean, to your point, for this to be a confluence of events to happen, the perfect storm to have a tragedy happen like this, john. noting the congestion in that area and how little room there is for error, do you believe there will be changes to the number of aircraft they put up? the frequency with which they put them up in this area? >> i'm not certain about that. i know there's a push to increase the flights in and out of reagan national airport. one thing i didn't mention is the helicopter on the route along the east bank of the potomac. the helicopter was supposed to be at or below 200 feet sea level.

200 feet above the river, and the impact took place at 250 feet. if that is the case, it seems clear that the helicopter was higher -- almost twice as high as it was supposed to be. >> john: so, i d jon, go back to what you are talking about the last-minute change in the assigned runway for the incoming regional jet. because it did look about the same time the jet was coming in for short final, there was another jet -- and i believe it was another american airlines plane that was taking off on runway 1. if he had have been coming in for a landing on runway one, and would have been straight up the river. but coming over 33, you have to go over joint faced anticosti, and that would have exposed the belly of the aircraft to the helicopter. any idea why that last-minute change might have been made? >> i'm guessing -- and i don't know this for sure, but i'm guessing that that plane that you see taking off was slightly delayed in taking off for

whatever reason. and so because runway 33 at about 5200 feet or whatever is long enough to accommodate a regional jet, a crj, they simply asked for spacing if they could use that runway, and you see on the flight track, he makes a little dog leg -- the regional jet makes a dogleg over maryland and then heads -- makes that bank to the left. under runway 33. and that, again, is another example of the kind of thing, you know, were it not for that little bit of a change in aircraft control directions, this kind of -- this accident would not have happened. >> sandra: i mean, jon, you almost wonder if the solution is to not have a helicopter en route 4 between haines point and the wilson bridge while an aircraft is coming in. wouldn't it make sense to just halt the helicopter traffic and

let the plane land? >> well, what is supposed to happen, there is a frozen zone above every airport, and the planes come in shallow 3° glide slope, and everything above that glide slope area right down to the runway is supposed to be cleared of every other traffic. that's why the helicopter route along the river there is so low. 200 feet above the ground. that should have kept the helicopter out out of the path f the regional jet coming in above him. but again, not to be assigning blame, but somehow -- and it was a very bumpy night, i will say that. people talk about the fact that it was clear. yes, it was clear. but the winds were very gusty last night. and when you've got wind gusts, it's very hard to control your altitude. so the pilot of the chopper was

150 feet high roughly and you get a collision like this. >> sandra: gosh. jon scott joining us on that. >> john: yeah. a lot for the investigators to unravel in the weeks ahead. jon, thank you. appreciate it. >> sandra: thank you, jon. all right, and now to the victims as we learn more -- figure skaters, families, and union members -- these are just a few of the victims that we're learning about from last night's deadly collision. alexis mcadams is here with an update. what are you learning? >> it's sad to, one, see the crash video, and then think of the poor families getting the phone calls, and we are learning more of those on board the american airlines flight that collided with the helicopter crashing into the river near d.c., and six of those who died were members of the skating club of boston, these are some of their photos, and they are part of the tight knit family, and you go and you have to be there

five days a week and identified as jinna han and spencer lane. these are some of the best skaters in the country, and spencer just started out, and these are excited to be in the skating development camp in wish wichita kansas. >> and spencer is a crazy talented kid and not skating that long and rocketing to the top of the sport. and very fun. very cerebral and, a thinker. sorry about my boston accent. and jinna, wonderful athlete, and great competitor, and loved by all. >> those are the pictures, and if we pull up the coaches, and this is what we know about the copes, evgenia shishkova and vadim naumov, and that is them there, and they are world

skating champions, and won the world championships in the 90's and came in the early 2000 to take hold of this boston skating group, and their son was in kansas, and this breaks his heard, and he left early, and his parents stayed, and he found out they're not coming home. >> max was competing at the u.s. championships in the senior men event, and placed fourth which is a medaling spot, and his time in wichita concluded on sunday with the men's event. he was actually on a plane on monday. i came back with him. he had no reason to stay at the national development camp. both of his parents were with him while he was competing. it's well known mom was always too nervous to watch him skate. but his dad was with him and dad was in the kiss and cry sharing his great performance. >> feel like, what do you say when you hear that?

this poor kid in his 20's, and comes back and thinks he's going to see his parents in boston, and finds out they died on the way home, and learning that there was a flight attendant who was been identified as a dad and a stepdad who lost his life on that plane, too. >> sandra: just awful. awful. >> it's really horrible. >> sandra: every bit of it. thank you very much for the update, alexis. john, just lives gone way too soon and you start to hear each of their stories and the incredible lives that they were living and just gone too soon. >> john: you know, you start to put some names and faces and stories to the victims of these tragedies when they happen. and it brings it down to a whole different level. you know, last night, it was -- the shock of a plane and a helicopter colliding over the potomac river and now we learn the stories of people who will no longer be with us. really does drive home that tragedy. the trump administration launching multiple investigations into the deadly plane crash here in washington, d.c., and we are awaiting a

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that helicopter. when the two aircraft collided last night at about 9 o'clock, the regional jet -- the crj jet broke into about three pieces and fell f into what is shallow water there, 3 to 5 feet deep. the tide changes the deputy, and so much of the aircraft is sticking out of the water. it fell in shallow water, sandra. >> sandra: want to add what we learned just now and this from jennifer griffin at the pentagon, one set of remains from the helicopter has now been recovered. the copilot of the army helicopter. we're also learning who had the 500 flying hours was female. according to a senior u.s. defense official, one set of remains from the soldiers in the black hawk have been recovered. we don't know which one yet. but the copilot who is known as the pilot in command was female. she had 500 hours of flying

experience. the instructor who was flying the redb --the black hawk and ao evacuated at the time had 1000 hours flying time, and matthew buckley joins us now. between the two of them, they had 1500-plus hours flying experience. >> they did, sandra, in come ways i -- in some ways it's a lt and in some ways it's a little. something interesting i heard very recently is secretary of defense hegseth said they were wearing night vision goggles. that is going to make the hair on the back of my neck stand up a little bit. i have flown with night vision goggles with hundreds of hours, and it's very hard to wear night vision goggles around the city. it's almost too much light. and it can wash out your night vision goggles. so i don't know if he meant to

say they were on nvg -- a night vision goggle training mission or they were actually wearing the goggles or one of the crew was wearing the goggles. it can be -- night vision goggles can hans your situational a-- enhance your situational awareness or detract from your situational awareness. >> john: we don't know if they had the night vision goggles in use at the time. given the fact that the plane, the crj-700 was coming in, and if you had night vision goggles up, your vision should have lit up like the sun. >> that's exactly right. or too much. it would wash out the night vision goggles. so a lot of questions to be answered. it's very sad because -- i also -- i obviously feel for the families and the victims, but the folks in the tower, right. when an air traffic controller

says, hey, you have traffic, this right here. and the helicopter called, hey, traffic in sight. mentally to an air traffic controller, check that helo has the traffic in sight, and i can go start doing other things. clearly he did not. or she did not have that traffic in sight. so the folks in the control tower are obviously doing a little soul-searching today, too. i have seen what are allegedly the radar tracks and when you see two radar targets converging on each other at similar or same altitudes, i haven't been to air traffic controller school, i guarantee you on day 1, they probably say, if you see something like that happening, call the traffic out again. pat 25, confirm you see traffic at 11 co-altitude. this mishap is a has two schools

of thoughts. some say wait for the aviators. and i'm of the school of thought this shouldn't have happened and we need to know why it happened as soon as possible. kind of an oxam's razor, what is the probability of this cause, and learn from this. day 1 flight training at pensacola air school is rule one, don't hit anything, don't hit anything in the air or on the ground, and i remember an old crusty flight instructor telling me everybody is trying to kill you, including you, keep your head on a swivel. >> sandra: we hear you. and as far as the night vision glasses, it reminds me in the overnight reporting, and one of our reporters was on the ground, obviously, pitch black. he was delivering his news report. they had the lights up for camera for tv and those searching the river -- the first responders that were in the river at the time searching for -- to recover anyone said we

need you guys to turn the lights down it was impairing their vision -- even though they had night vision glasses, it was impairing their ability to carry out their search thoroughly. that being said, what is the most reasonable answer for this -- we're going to get an up date from ntsb 2:45 eastern time, we're told. do you think they will be able to determine the cause of this? >> well, sandra, it's a great question. mishap investigators -- i've been involved in some mishap investigations, and they start at the top of the list. was it weather? no. was it mechanical? no. literally as you and i are talking right now, they're going through the check list of what it couldn't have been, and they'll ultimately get to what it is. after looking at everything, sandra and john, to date, it's just an age-old rule in navigation. aviator, navigate, communicate. especially flying in and out of d.c., we call it the battle of

britain. there are a lot of airplanes flying around, commercial, and we have a lot of military aircraft and dignitaries. it is incumbent on the pilot in command of every aircraft in that type of environment to have eyeballs out of the cockpit. as i said, everything is trying to kill you in aviation, including you sometimes. >> john: so matthew, did i hear you correctly, you have flown in and out of dca? >> you bet. back in the day, absolutely. >> john: so tell us what it's like coming in on the finals here, particularly at night. because i know that when they are landing from the northern approach, you have to fly the river. they make that hard right turn over gravelle point, if you come up from the river from the south, you have to make a hard left over joint base anticosti. what is it like, what is going through your mind, how preoccupied are you with the actual landing when there might be other traffic in the area, what are you focused on? >> great question, john, and as

you are coming in to land, you are in the zone. right. the flight crew in the front of the crj is focused on landing. gear down. flaps down. landing check list. they're looking at the runway, is there anybody on the runway? we've been cleared to land. is there anybody who didn't listen to the tower and they're crossing the runway. they're in the zone. the pilot in command of the airliner i gua guarantee you alt if they heard a traffic call, army, pat 25, you have rj traffic, you they have you in s. i would have sat up and said yes, they have you in sight, i am done with that traffic and i am focused on landing and that's all i care about. it's sad, folks, i don't think they even know they're dead right now. that was just completely out of the blue and unexpected. >> sandra: matthew, a quick final there, did you ever have a close encounter when you were coming in and out of the airport?

>> not in d.c. it's -- like i said, it's the battle of britain, but it's controlled chaos. everybody has assigned altitudes, people have eyeballs out of the cockpit. you have the tower. it's one of the most control airspace on the planet. so no, i -- knock on wood i never had any close calls. >> sandra: got it. thank you very much. >> john: all right, matthew buckley, thank you for being with us. really appreciate it. >> sandra: thanks, matthew. >> thanks, guys. >> john: we are awaiting the ntsb update and transportation secretary sean duffy's second day on the job. ray lahood joins us next.

>> sandra: just looking at the flight paths here of the army helicopter and the american airlines flight that crashed last night killing all on board. just looking at the proximity as we continue to look at some of the pictures live and video of

what happened. here is the map layout. this is the path of the american airlines flight carrying those passengers as it was coming in. the last transmission from that flight path was 8:48.01 last night at altitude of 350 feet. the last transmission to the army helicopter as you can see was 3 seconds prior at an elevation of just 200 feet. okay. and this was the path as the helicopter came in. this is the path of the american airlines flight. just to give you an idea of thit mentioned a moment ago, most secured airspace in the nation. you're looking at the proximity to the white house, the national mall, the u.s. capitol, here's the airport itself where the plane was coming in for the landing in relation to the pentagon over the potomac river and it really gives you an idea of the airspace they were in when this happened as we continue to look for more details. we are awaiting the ntsb newser. it is expected to happen in a few moments from now, and

hopefully we get more details as to how this happened. we know the when. we know who. we just don't know why yet, and we're awaiting more detail on that, john. >> john: all right, sandra. so here we are back at west pa potomac park, overlooking the potomac river, and a mile south is where the plane went down tangled together with the black hawk helicopter. and we are waiting for the ntsb to speak on the deadly midair crash as transportation secretary sean duffy begins his second day on the job and we bring in ray lahood, a former secretary of transportation under obama. thank you for being with us. >> thank you, john. >> john: similar situation to the one you had sean duffy had, several days after confirmed as secretary of transportation, colgan air 3407 went down because of icing in the hills of new york state just outside of buffalo. so what is the transportation secretary facing in terms of an

investigation here, and we do know that the folks at the ntsb, there are none better in the world at uncovering the events that led to up this and really what happened. >> john, thank you for having me on and you've outlined it very well. in february of 2009, the colgan air crash occurred. 49 people perished in buffalo, new york. terrible, terrible thing. the first thing i was reached tout to the families. -- i reached out to all of the families. i talked to all of the families aabout their loss and offered or sympathy from them, and allowed ntsb do their thing and we had people from faa and dot, and the national transportation safety board as you stated, john, is the best. they have professional career people who do these investigations day in and day out. year in and year out. and they know what they're doing and. they will get us the answers and

u.s. dod and faa have to cooperate and will cooperate, but they'll take the lead, and they'll get us the answers, john. >> john: so the cause of the colgan air crash, i believe, was icing which led to a stall and then the plane spiraled later on to the ground and landed on top of a house, killing the folks on the ground, as well. this was such a highly unusual event that you had a military helicopter was flying north to south, and out of the washington channel and back to the potomac and the american airlines aircraft that was moved, according to our jon scott from runway 1 to runway 33. and was engaging in a left hand turn descending on short final to the runway, and found themselves in the same airspace at the same time. both of them had lights on as far as we can tell. you have to scratch your head to think of how this could possibly happen, ray. >> john, you know as well as i

do, the d.c. area is the most crowded congested air traffic in our country. you have three international airports. reagan, dulles, baltimore. you have general aviation airports. you have andrews air force base. you have the helicopter units that are there. there is no -- there is just so much air activity and aviation activity and it's -- you know, compounded by the fact that -- you know, we just -- you know, congress just added more slots to reagan and what i mean by that, they added more airplanes to fly in and out of reagan which is , i think, probably going to be looked at and debated after this incident occurred. but ntsb will get to the bottom of it. now, it will take time, john. you know this. the colgan air crash took over a

year. one of the only good things that came out of that crash was we worked on the bill with congress and families to provide more pilot training, more rest for pilots which were recommendations made by the ntsb. that was a good thing. and it did prevent the idea that we've had a crash again since colgan until today. >> john: do you think that this crash will precipitate some new recommendations in terms of all of these aircraft flying in the same space? >> completely, john. and i agree with that. last year when congress was debating adding more flights to reagan, i was against that. and spoke out against it. we don't need any more flights in this airspace. we need to relief the congestion, and i think the ntsb will look very, very carefully at that. >> john: all right, ray lahood, the former secretary of transportation in the obama administration. thank you, sir, for taking the time this afternoon.

really appreciate it. >> thank you, john. >> john: all right, sandra. >> sandra: all right, we have an update for you with in new tw picture here showing the black hawk sc crew chief, we are told, ryan o'hara. he would be the one with over a thousand hours of flying experience. as we had just gotten that update from the pentagon a few moments ago, but this is the first we are seeing a picture of him. this just in, the black hawk crew chief who lost his life in this crash, ryan o'hara. we're going to have more when we return. (vo) veteran homeowners, step into a new year of savings. with the newday one hundred cash-out loan. now you can pay off debt and save money! borrow up to one hundred percent of your home's value and get up to seventy thousand or more. save hundreds a month, thousands a year.

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>> john: back here from west potomac park, overlooking the potomac river. we're on the washington, d.c. side of the river. over on the virginia side, the ntsb is going to be holding a media briefing in a few minutes' time as right in the middle of the river, the emergency crews continue the grim process of recovering the remains of the 67 people who died in that horrible collision last night between a crj-700, the psa flight flying for american eagle and a black hawk helicopter that was on a training mission from fort belvoir. it's a cold k day out here for crews working in the water, and it cold day in freezing river and it was frozen up until a couple days ago. and the divers going into the water have a tough job. sandra, you grieve for the families of the 67 people who perished last night because this was just such a freak accident.

something people didn't think would ever happen. the last time there was a major incident here was on february the 13th, back in 1982. where an air florida flight that was leaving from reagan national airport was heavily laden with ice sitting on the runway after being de-iceed and crashed into the 14th street bridge which is just off to my left. so there's been a very safe record here in terms of aviation in the washington, d.c., area, and now it's come to this. >> sandra: yeah, and our pentagon team just held -- joined an on-the-record call with an army aviation expert, john, and they were able to get some information from someone who has 30 years of aviation experience with the u.s. army. he is talking about this black hawk crew that was involved in the crash. says they were very experienced. even the crew chief in the back had been in the unit for a long

time he references. very familiar with the area. very familiar with the routing structure. so they don't see experience as being an edm impairment to their ability to carry this out safely. he referenced this as a relative easy route, easy corridor to fly because you're flying down the center of the river, and talked about the maximum altitudes for the route, 200 feet sea level, and they know exactly on the map and visually understand where they are with relation to that route. he said it's a mission for aviation battalion and transport vip's on missions and these are flown every day on multiple aircraft as we see where the chopper was coming in the orange and the american airlines flight in the yellow, john, and he brought up the night vision goggles which is a big part of the story. perhaps we will learn more shortly. he said the crew had night

goggles, probably using them, and they are a choice. we don't know definitively what the situation was with the night goggles, john, and that could be a big question as we continue to get more details from the investigation. >> that's right, we don't know if the pilot was wearing night vision goggles coming through this particular airspace or if they were being used further upriver in a training mission. i just want to make a correction. it was january 13th, 1982, that air florida flight went down, not february. as we see the recovery crews work out there. and looks like a coast guard boat right beside the wreckage. we'll leave you for a quick second and back with the ntsb news conference. stay with us. how did i ever miss this? before you were preventing migraine with qulipta? you'll never truly forget migraine, but qulipta reduces attacks making more zero-migraine days possible. it's approved to prevent migraine to help give you that forget-you-get migraine feeling. don't take if allergic to qulipta. get help right away for serious allergic reactions like trouble breathing,

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okay to the national airport we go speaking jennifer home and either director of the national transportation safety board let's listen in. >> lived in wichita for 20 years we also have member tom chapman. the ntsb headquarters is just a mile from here so we are all here because this is an all hands on deck event and we are

here to assure the american people that we are going to leave no stone unturned in this investigation we are going to conduct a thorough investigation of this entire tragedy looking at the facts. now with that i want to level set win we go to the scene and we were here last night hacked leading allow -- we allow the responders to do their important safety miss it -- mission which in this case was shirt -- rescue recovery. we stand back to allow them to do their important safety missions of this for us is our first full day on the scene with our entire crew coming together we have nearly 50 people on scene in addition to resources in our headquarters and throughout the agency.

with that said back we are not going to get into specific facts in this press conference. i want to level set here we are going to get into our investigative process as we are able to confirm factual information we will provide that. i do want to say this is a whole of government effort. i was able to breathe along with other is the president of the united states and vice president this afternoon. i want to thank them for your their leadership and their tremendous support and for our investigators and for the responders on the scene doing an important mission. i also want to thank secretary sean duffy i was dominican he with early on at win he first got word of the tragedy we'll

have been working till the day with his team at the d.o.t. and within foa. i also want to thank secretary pete hegseth who was also integral in working with us today we heard from many members of congress on both sides of the aisle i will say it search of mendez cap 1 more time, whole of government effort i also want to take a moment and thank them many, many responders that have been on saint o'shaughnessy end. is been an incredible effort and i will have a full list that i will provide and we will provide tomorrow but i do want to thank them for all of their work. with that i will turn it over for additional remarks.

>> so today is our first day on seen. our investigative team will be on scene as long as it takes to obtain all the perishable evidence and fact finding that needed to bring this to a conclusion of probable cost. our mission is to understand not just what happened but why. recommending changes to prevent it from happening again. since we're just starting our investigation we don't have a great deal of investigation might help your? will continue to give regular updates as we get more. our intention is to have a preliminary report in 30 days and a final report issued once we've completed all of our fact-finding and investigation. we will not be determining the probable cause of the accident while on scene nor will we

speculate about what may have caused the accident. today we will be having an organizational meeting and establishing are parties to our investigation. we currently have the following parties that are already identified psa airlines. g.e. aerospace. faa. the representative of air-traffic controllers and the representative of the pilots. army afa which represent split attendance, transportation safety board of canada we'll be an accredited representative under annex 13. they will be supplement and by mh irg as a technical advisor and they were previously known as anna deer. party status is offered to those agencies and associations that have employees and activities

are equipment involved in the accident. we offer that because they will provide technical expertise and relevant information supporting the development of the best possible factual record. once they join this investigation they are not permitted to release documents or talk publicly about the investigation without the consent of the hsp. i want to stress this it is only the ntsb that will provide information related to this investigation with 1 exception regarding the fatalities that occur, that notification we'll be handled by d.c. medical examiner. we won't discuss fatalities or named -- means it will be handled by them -- names. we want to talk about the process. we will analyse facts and determine probable cause then issue a report of those determinations. i also want to talk about additional people with those who are important to u