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into the plaza and to the dunkin donuts everywhere. i never seen nothing like that. a day in my life. >> a fireball illuminating the sky over philadelphia as a medevac jet crashes into a dense neighborhood near a shopping mall. at this time, we know six people were on board the plane, and there is no word on any survivors. it is not yet clear if anyone on the ground died on board the plane. a young girl who had just received life saving treatment. hello everyone. i'm jonathan hunt, live in los angeles, where it's 9 p.m. pacific time. >> kevin corke live in washington. it is midnight here on the east coast. the planes striking both homes and vehicles smoldering debris can also be seen over a fairly large area. the city's mayor is urging caution. >> asking for prayers for any and everyone who may have been

affected. we do want to note that several dwellings and vehicles were impacted. so what are we asking you to do for us right now? philadelphia, we are urging you to please stay away from the scene. if you see debris. call 911. don't touch anything. this is still an active scene under investigation. >> we now go live to fox news correspondent cb cotton for the latest. she is live in philadelphia. hello, cb. >> hi, jonathan. well, this is going to be a long night for first responders. all the roads behind me are blocked off from where we're at about a quarter mile away from where this medical transport plane crashed just moments after taking off. you can probably see some of the bright flashing lights behind me. all the first responders here getting settled in for the night because the

investigation is just getting underway. i'm told by a local firefighters union that this was a pretty horrific and gruesome scene. when the first responders arrived, i'm told there were multiple fatalities everywhere. and of course, our hearts tonight mourn with the people of northeast philadelphia who were impacted by this tragedy. and even people internationally who were impacted. so speaking of that, the company who owns the plane, jet rescue air ambulance, tells us the six people on board were four crew members pilot, copilot, physician, paramedic and a young girl and her mother. we're told everyone on board was from mexico, and the young girl was here to receive life saving treatment. shriners children's philadelphia, sharing this statement, saying in part, quote, shriners children's is heartbroken to confirm that one of our pediatric patients and the child's mother were aboard the jet rescue air ambulance that crashed in philadelphia this evening. the patient had received care from shriners children's. our hearts and

prayers go out to the families of the medical crew and pilots, who were also lost in this tragic event, as well as all the people who were affected on the ground and were thankful to the first responders for their quick action. so, temple university hospital has also told fox it's received six patients hurt in the crash, although it was not clear if those patients were in the plane or people who were on the ground. we're working to learn more. so the jet company said the flight's final destination was tijuana international airport, but the flight was going to make a stop for fuel in springfield, missouri. a company spokesperson described both the pilot and copilot as very seasoned, adding that the jet rescue air ambulance flies 700 missions a year. so the images of the crash are just horrific. we know just after 6 p.m. today, the plane was captured erupting into that huge fireball near cottman avenue and roosevelt boulevard in philly. several homes caught

fire, and thankfully firefighters were able to get people out of them. the fires are now under control. and like i mentioned, the investigation into how this happened is now underway. members of the ntsb are here. state troopers and members of state d.o.t. we've also been talking about this huge debris field. our local fox affiliate reporter says he found oxygen tanks from the air ambulance at least a quarter of a mile away from the crash site. we are actually here across from the diner where some of the debris broke through windows. we're told by one a worker in this area that he witnessed some of that debris hit a customer inside the store. he said that man was injured. and so we know that in the hours to come, jonathan, we're probably going to be learning a lot more about people who were impacted by this tragedy, who, of course, not just people on the plane, people in cars because this happened during rush hour traffic and people who were sitting in nearby restaurants. just horrific. back to you.

>> and cb, i know you've only just got on the scene there, and we thank you for getting there so quickly, but there must be a palpable sense of shock and horror among people there, because this was a stunning scene to witness by so many people at rush hour. >> absolutely, jonathan. we've been talking to people who are still here on the ground who were. one man who was going through the mcdonald's drive through. others who were at the nearby shopping center. and they're kind of staying around this area, just chatting with one another, chatting with first responders, police officers here on scene, because i think everybody is trying to decompress from what they saw. i mean, there were people in the drive through who saw a plane crash right in front of them. that is traumatic to witness. and so there is definitely a collective shock tonight in this community. and you can sense that this is a tragedy that people want to speak about. they want to share what they saw and they heard because we're told that there were just horrific scenes right

after this crash happened. >> yeah, absolutely. yeah. cb we're grateful to have you there. back to you throughout the night here, kevin. >> all right. >> jonathan and cb, thank you so much. we are seeing a mix of local, state and federal partners working this crash and crash investigation. for more on the government's response, we turn now to fox news correspondent, chanley painter and chanley. i hate to say it, but here we go again. >> that's right kevin, i would say great to be with you, but not under these circumstances. of course, we are seeing a massive and really unified, multi-layered government response to this tragedy. many agencies immediately on the ground, working the scene, offering resources from local authorities to officials to state agencies, including at least 45 state troopers, members of the pennsylvania department of transportation, the pennsylvania emergency management authority, and the department of environmental protection to elected state officials, including the

governor as well as federal agencies. we know at least four members of the faa have been dispatched. the ffa is posting these details about the crash, saying it and the ntsb are both investigating and, quote, the ntsb will lead the investigation and will provide all updates. the ntsb making clear they have one person on the ground now and additional team members arriving saturday or later this morning. in a press conference, the philadelphia mayor and pennsylvania governor expressed gratitude for a unified response. >> watch. every time when we needed to affirm what the one philly philosophy means, the time is now, and i'm very proud about how our federal, state, and all of our local partners are working hard to deal with this tragedy. >> is a unified response to an awful aviation disaster. for as

awful as that aviation disaster was tonight, we also saw the best of philly. we saw neighbor helping neighbor. we saw pennsylvanians looking out for one another. >> president trump and his administration leaders have been in communication with local and state officials offering support, including the new secretary of transportation, sean duffy. facing his second tragedy in just his third day on the job. president trump took to truth social with this quote. so sad to see the plane go down in philadelphia, pennsylvania. more innocent souls lost are people are totally engaged. first responders are already being given credit for doing a great job. more to follow. god bless you all. and of course, vice president jd vance. echoing those same sentiments on social media as well. >> kevin chanley for us. thank you so much. over to you, jonathan. good. >> joining us now is our viewers know very well john is

also a licensed pilot. good to have you with us, john. and as i look at that video, my extremely untrained eye, john, it strikes me as extraordinarily steep. the descent was how extraordinarily fast it was. that indicates that something absolutely catastrophic went wrong, john, because these planes don't just fall out of the sky with one engine failure or anything. they glide a little bit. john. so what does it say to you? >> well. >> you're right. >> about the rate of descent. i just read on the aviation safety database that the rate of descent in the final seconds for that aircraft was 11,000ft per minute. that's more than two miles a minute. and they only left from an altitude of 1600 feet. so that final plunge was very, very quick. maybe, maybe that's the good news here, is that the crew and the

pilots didn't have much time to worry about what was happening to them. it was clearly a loss of control accident, why that happened. well, that's going to be for the ntsb to determine. i'm going out on a limb and thinking that they lost their instruments or they misread their instruments. somehow. i was actually driving through philadelphia tonight around the time of the crash. it was a very rainy, overcast night. foggy. almost. the cloud layer was about 400ft off the ground. according to the official weather reports of the airport. but to me it seemed even lower than that. so when they took off, they would have been in the clouds almost instantly. and if they had an instrument failure, or maybe their dashboard, their panel lights went out and they weren't able to read their instruments, it could have led to the kind of situation that we saw also. and

related to that, if for some reason they found that they were picking up speed or going too fast, and they operated the controls too quickly, you can tear off some of the control surfaces of an airplane by by muscling it too much, and that could happen. so if authorities find tomorrow that there's a piece of a horizontal stabilizer or, you know, a piece of one of the wing flaps or something in somebody's backyard, well away from the explosion site, that's going to tell us a lot about what may have happened here. >> so, john, those scenarios that you describe could lead to that kind of sudden descent, which seems to me to be almost at a right angle. it's going horizontal. and then just a vertical drop. it just seems extraordinarily rare to me for that to happen to any modern

aircraft. >> right. well, there's something that we call a stall in aviation, which occurs when the plane exceeds its critical. it's called the critical angle of attack. so you imagine your wing going up like this, the air flowing over the top of the wing has to stay attached to the wing in order to provide lift. if that wing gets at too much of an angle, the air tumbles over the top, peels away from the wing, and no longer provides lift. at that point, your nose is going to go down, and if you don't adjust very, very quickly, if you don't pull back on the yoke and do some other things, you're going to have that straight into the ground kind of dive that we saw tonight. and i just have to i just have to believe that there was some kind of an instrument problem that led to this. related to that, i've heard the tower controller give

the directions to the pilot. they were supposed to take off on runway two four. they were going right into the wind. it should have been a perfect, perfect takeoff. then they were to turn right to a heading of 290 290. so they were headed northwest. you would expect that since missouri was their destination, but they ended up crashing east of the field where they had just taken off, which again tells me that they made more than a 180 degree turn in the sky and that they were somehow lost. i think that's because they had an instrument problem or a lighting problem, or maybe both, and they simply didn't know where they were. when you're in the clouds and you can't see lights, you can't get a sense of what's up and what's down. it's very easy to lose control of an airplane. unfortunately. >> yeah. john, it is always great to have your expertise on these matters. thank you so

much for being with us, john scott. and just a reminder again of what we know about the people on board that plane. we are told there were six people. one of them was a young girl who had been in the u.s. to receive life saving treatment. we are told at shriners hospital on board with her, we believe was her mother. and then the four members of the crew, who included medical personnel with this jet rescue company, which, by the way, is based in mexico and the u.s. they were flying. this plane was flying, as john mentioned, via brandon, missouri, on its way back to tijuana, mexico. so what we know is that there were six people on board, and at the moment, the company is telling us that they have no confirmation, as they put it, of any survivors. kevin. >> yeah, and just devastating pictures for those of us who've been following this online and

obviously on the air as well, we're joined now by john anderson. john, he is a retired pilot from philadelphia. john, thank you so much for your your time and your expertise tonight. i was most concerned about a possible catastrophic decompression, given the trajectory, the angle the aircraft descended into the ground. your thoughts on that possibility? as we look at some of the pictures? >> well, thank. >> you for having me. >> regarding the. >> decompression. >> that is. >> highly unlikely. as the airplane would not be pressurized at such a low altitude. it would still be pretty much the same as the atmosphere outside. so if the door had blown off or opened, the pressure would not have had decompression. >> any possibility that the oxygen tanks could have impacted that. >> that, you know, that's that's left to be said. an investigation will tell that i believe that to be unlikely. they did find an oxygen tank on

the ground and it was intact. so i'm i'm very reluctant to say that would have been a cause or even a factor, an accident. >> john. i'm sorry. go ahead. i was just going to say i thought john also made a very interesting point about whether a low ceiling there tonight. john. >> that is definitely a factor. an accident is not one thing that happens. it's a string of events that would cause that would lead up to an accident. and the first, the first thing would be the weather. right after shortly after the accident, i checked the weather at northeast philadelphia and it was 700 foot overcast. so they were in the clouds at 700 foot. now, there was another very, very interesting factor that the ntsb is going to look very strongly into. and i haven't heard anybody mention this, but if you listen to the audio of the northeast philadelphia control tower, the control tower called them and i

can't remember their call sign, but it was. hey, john. >> yes. >> hey, john, we actually have that. i'm glad you mentioned it. why don't we play that? and i can get your reaction on the other side. listen here. >> please do medevac med service 056. contact philly departure 123.8123.8. >> mike tango sierra 056 medevac. >> thank you. >> good day. >> medevac med service. >> 056 northeast tower. contact philly 123.8 medevac med service northeast tower medevac. med service 056 northeast tower. you on frequency medevac. >> mike tango sierra 056 northeast tower. how do you hear this transmission? >> medevac. med service 056 northeast tower. >> med service 056 philadelphia. med service 056 philadelphia. med service 056. philly med service 056 philadelphia. >> there you have it there, john. i mean, repeated attempts to contact the aircraft unsuccessfully there.

>> okay, kevin, a very good point, but you need to go back to the beginning of the tape where they cleared the airplane for takeoff. now, in aviation, the two pilots will change legs. one pilot will fly one leg, the next leg or the following day. in the airlines, the copilot will always sit in the right seat, and the captain will sit in the left seat. and the copilot would fly every other leg, or whichever they would determine from the right seat. captain would fly from the left seat. sometimes in general aviation, the captain and the copilot will switch seats at different legs, and the copilot would fly from the right seat or the left seat, depending on his ability. and if the if the captain feels he's ready to sit in the left seat, he'll put him in the left seat, but they can fly from the right seat. now, the interesting thing about this tape is if you listen to the cleared them for. >> takeoff. >> they cleared them for takeoff. they said medevac one, two, three, turn a heading of 290, runway two four cleared

for takeoff. and the pilot that answered that call that he was not driving. he was the actual radio man. the other pilot would have been the one that was manipulating the controls. when they took off, they went into the clouds. and then when the tower controller switched them over to talk to departure control, which is a different controller, they said medevac 123 contact philadelphia on 120 3.8. >> john, we're going to have to leave it there. unfortunately, we're up against a real hard break, but i want to have you back this week. thank you so much for your time and we'll get you later on in the show. >> answered that second call. it was a different pilot that answered that. >> second time out. we're back with more after this. >> i'm kelsea ballerini. >> and i'm ride or die country. >> i always lose the country singers.

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horrendous dive and then exploding in that philadelphia neighborhood. generally speaking, jonathan, one of the last things any pilot does, i don't care if it's 30s. he keys that microphone and lets out an emergency or a mayday, or i'm going down. this one did not do that. now we're talking. about are we having a total electrical system failure in this particular aircraft? if the lights were on, if people say they saw the lights on this aircraft on the wing lights coming down, well, electrical system must be operating. could be operating though off the emergency bus. so we have a real mystery ongoing here. and i think that it's going to come down to hopefully in that horrendous crash, an explosion and fire that the cockpit voice recorder and the flight data recorder are going to tell the tale. >> yeah, they they they almost always do give us a great deal of information. what is there

from looking at those pictures, any evidence to you that there may have been some sort of explosion on board? could that have had anything to do with this? jp. >> i heard yes, it could if there was an explosion on board. but jonathan, if there were an explosion on board, there'd be pieces of the fuselage that will be remote from the crash site. and as i said, i tried to blow up that photograph of the video and watching it coming down, the aircraft appeared to me to be intact. it wasn't in any spin. you get an explosion on board a jet like that. it's still a small jet. basically speaking, you're going to ignite the fuel, you're going to take the wing off, you're going to take the tail off. you're going to do serious damage to the aircraft, not an explosion. you know, here's a peculiar thing. i was looking through the flight control system of the 35 a. and here's a little note that's really kind of surprising to me. the trim

check very important on the learjet as a trim system on the aircraft, if not properly set, can kill you within seconds after takeoff. excuse the lack of tack here, but it's a fact. perform the trim check prior to takeoff. that's something i've rarely ever seen. >> jp what is what is a trim check mean to a layman like me? >> well, a trim set has all to do with the flight control system. in other words, if you're in a aircraft that is mis trim and particularly on takeoff, what it can do is pull that nose up, go right through the stall. it's a t-tail aircraft. so along with its normal stall recovery or prevention, if you go through the stall, think of the colgan crash up in buffalo. there is a stick pusher, and that stick pusher is a violent maneuver. so if that trim is out of trim, totally up against the stops

and it's a nose up, trim that aircraft on takeoff. this flight control warning would be one of the things that would happen to it within 30s. okay. it it's a it's a surprising bit on flight control. and just as i said as i was looking through it, this came out on me. >> all right, jp, fascinating insights as always. thank you for being with us. sir kevin. >> all right jonathan, quick time out here as we continue our breaking news coverage of the devastating air crash in philadelphia. six people on board are presumed to have perished. the pictures are incredible. we'll continue with that and much more after a quick time out. >> hi. i use febreze fade defy plug. >> and i use this. >> febreze has a microchip to control scent release so it smells first. stay fresh for 50 days. >> 50 days. >> and it's refill. reminder light means i'll never miss a

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what in the world happened in the city of brotherly love. cb. >> hi kevin, great to be with you. so yes, we've been talking to witnesses of this plane crash and one man described it. he said it felt like an earthquake. we also had the chance to speak with a company who owns this medical transport plane. it is called jet rescue air ambulance. and they tell us six people were on board to include four crew members and a young girl and her mother. we're told everyone on board was from mexico, and the young girl was here in philadelphia to receive life saving treatment. shriners children's philadelphia says that young girl had been receiving treatment at its hospital hospital. they released a statement saying in part, quote, shriners children's is heartbroken to confirm that one of our pediatric patients and the child's mother were aboard the jet rescue air ambulance that crashed in philadelphia this evening. the patient had received care from shriners children. now temple university hospital also told fox it had received six patients hurt in

the crash, although it was not clear if those patients were in the plane or people who were on the ground. the company told us. the flight's final destination was tijuana international airport, but the flight was going to make a stop for fuel, and springfield, missouri, and a company spokesperson spokesperson described both the pilot and copilot as very seasoned, adding that this jet rescue air ambulance flies about 700 missions a year. so philadelphia, sorry, pennsylvania governor josh shapiro, he said tonight that he knows the impact is going to be significant in his state. listen to what he had to say. >> i know that there will be loss in this region, and we want to offer our thoughts and our serious prayers for those who are grieving at this moment. the mayor knows, and i want you all to know, that the commonwealth of pennsylvania stands firmly with our partners in the city.

>> so we're going to be out here on scene, continue to monitor developments. kevin, i think the big question tonight is what went wrong. we know it was about 49 degrees and the plane took off a light fog, wind gusts of about 39mph. my dad's a private pilot. i can tell you those aren't the worst conditions to fly in. so the big question is, how did this happen? back to you. >> no question about that. and i think a lot of people are quite curious about the angle and the speed with which the aircraft struck the ground. again, a lot of questions out there as the search for answers continues. cb cotton, thank you so much. over to jonathan hunt kevin. >> first responders as they always do rush to the scene. their priority of course saving lives, triaging any of the injured they found on the ground in the wake of this terrible crash. joining us now to take a look at the work of these heroes, former fema external affairs officer and first responder, jason pack.

jason, great to have you with us. and tell us from your extensive experience what goes through the mind of these first responders when they get to an extraordinary scene like that? presumably it's all about saving lives that they can save when they hit the ground, they're. >> that's right, mr. hunt. i think initially when you get the call, you're at the station and you hear plane crash. you take a second look at the speaker or the tones and you're like, did i really hear that? then your adrenaline builds, your training kicks in. and so when you're responding to the scene, you're sizing up, what do i need to do? if i'm the first do engine company? some solid work really. tonight by the philadelphia fire department and first responders and police there, they issued what's called a mass casualty incident, mci level two, probably on this one. they organized the chaos through incident command. and so that's how they train. they will get sectors established and really respond to what's needed from a

fire standpoint, from an emergency medical standpoint and from a law enforcement security standpoint. and then you also have the office of emergency management coordinating any external resources that are needed there. so in this case, you have several different things going on at once. you have the search and rescue for any survivors of the plane crash. you have the spot fires that are popping up and other residences and other buildings and structures. and you have the bystanders who may be injured by falling debris or shrapnel just falling out of the air. so those things are what all comes together in this organized chaos we call incident command. and then you have alerted the level one trauma centers in the area. and so the medics will form a casualty collection point, and they're able to kind of triage the patients and send the most serious ones first. so it really is it looks like a lot of moving parts. it is a lot of moving parts. but really some organization to help expedite life saving measures. >> right. and then jason, you've also got the not easy

task, i imagine, of securing a huge crash scene there. you're in the middle of a really busy city at a busy time of night in that city, and you've got debris over a pretty wide area. that is not an easy thing to do to secure that scene. >> not at all. and so each of those places where a piece of the fuselage may be recovered is going to be an individual scene that will have to be secured until the light of day to the national transportation safety board can come in. generally, in these types of incidents, the fbi's evidence response team, in this case the philadelphia field offices evidence response team, likely going to join the ntsb just as an mou to kind of collect those pieces and just be a force multiplier. ntsb is a small but robust agency. they know what they're doing. the fbi's evidence response team has experience working with them to collect these things. they're doing it up in the case up in the potomac, too. so really, really, jonathan, it's

interesting because now in these two cases and just within 48 hours, we've seen heroic first responders doing their jobs a little differently. and now the ntsb, we know how it happened in potomac. and now the question is how did it happen in philadelphia? so that's the question that the ntsb investigators will have to answer in the coming days. >> yep. jason, great to have you with us. i hope you'll stay with us over the next couple of hours as we continue our coverage here. jason pack, thank you so much, kevin. >> good stuff there, jonathan and jason, thank you. quick time out as we continue our coverage here on fox news channel. the search for answers continues in philadelphia. don't forget, there is also quite a bit of damage on the ground. we don't know how many structures were damaged or how many people may have been seriously injured as a result of this crash. we will continue to talk about that as we continue our coverage. don't go away. we're back after a quick break. >> looking to take your brand national with fox news media? >> it's easier than you think. join thousands of advertisers

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they go. so i wouldn't necessarily read a ton into that. but certainly one piece of this puzzle, as it gets put together, they'll look at what each pilot was doing in this, in this, in this crazy flight that only lasted for a few minutes as, as has been discussed. >> you know, i've been looking carefully also, brant, at the video and i see flames before it strikes the ground. maybe that's my impression. again, i'm not a licensed pilot. i know quite a bit about these sort of things. and when you see that, what does that say to you? >> you know, i see that too. and night is tough, right? there's lights on the airplane. it's moving through the air quickly. there's moisture in the atmosphere. so different things can cause that glow. but i but i agree and i think one of the things that we're going to be is going to be really important to look at is, is what was the maintenance history on this airplane? there was there was there was talk earlier tonight. i know of the,

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>> and it. >> looks like the. plane just inverted and hit the ground. so one of the things. >> because they were such a low altitude. >> when this. >> happened, i heard some rapid. >> depressurization and i just don't agree with that at all. >> could be. so what kind of rapid what kind of major malfunction are you talking about, ken? what do you think. >> i think. it it looks like it's pointing towards, like, flight controls. >> so whether. >> that was. >> a runaway trim. >> and you're constantly trimming the airplane. when whenever your speed changes, whether you're climbing out, descending. you always try to balance the flight controls. and if. you if the. >> trim is a trim motor on the yoke, the control wheel, and you. >> have to constantly trim that

as you're flying around. so if that what we call runaway trim and it goes in a nose up. >> attitude, it will just continue to pull the. the nose of the aircraft up. >> as you're climbing out. >> but and can that could lead to that kind of rapid descent we see in this video. >> it would go nose high and then the. >> plane would stall. and then. it would. >> invert and. and hit the ground. >> because the learjet is such a short coupled airplane. and the. >> short being from the. >> nose to the tail, that's always a possibility with a learjet. but this is a. >> very experienced. >> crew. and they would they have they have trained for. >> that in the flight simulator. many times. they know what to do. >> they would reduce. >> the throttles and try to regain. >> control of the airplane. so

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