for believers and other countries. merrick garland in the california prosecutors, are gone and donald trump and in the serrated celeste wanted to thank donald trump in person and she flew to washington dc, to do so in due course, i'm sure that she can and will see the president in the meantime, i am thinking him for her and for everyone else who cares about fairness and someone with power use it for good, to help those who could not help themselves. and that is justice. and thank you for spinning part of your sunday with us and i hope you have a great week ahead until next week, you'd find us on line on the trey gowdy podcast and good night from south carolina i am a shannon bream tragedy of the potomac we get into details about the deadliest air disaster

in this country in more than two decades. cooks it is undescribable in terms of the loss that we have. shannon: what caused the collision is still unknown as evidence been pulled from the potomac and families warned. the follow from the crash is a big test for the new trump administration. we'll talk to transportation secretary sean duffy about the latest on the investigation and what steps are being taken to keep travelers safe now. then, where the where the president's cabinet picks end of the process. >> did he say headquarters should be shut down? i deserve an answer to that question. shannon: allah senators lindsey graham and john fetterman how they're planning to vote on the president's most controversial nominees. plus, our sunday panel on america's abuse of both parties know that the dust has settled on the 2024 election. all right now on "fox news sunday."

♪ hello fox news in washington we begin with a look at today's top headlines. three more israeli hostages are free after more than year end hamas in captivity and gaza including one who has dual american citizenship and exchange israel released 183 palestinian prisoners. my minister benjamin netanyahu is traveling to the u.s. today smith president trump about the upcoming second phase of the cease-fire. investigators in philadelphia are still sifting through burned cars, damaged homes the charred debris of a medevac object that crashed shortly after takeoff right killing all six people on board at least one person on the ground. investigators have yet to find the cockpit voice recorder which colt could hold important clues about what happens. that deadly crash happened two days after commercial plane and military blackhawk helicopter collated here in washington over the potomac on wednesday killing

67 people. we learned last night federal aviation system's main online warning system for pilots went down. technicians have been working for hours to fix the problem a backup system is currently up and running in a moment look at the very latest in transportation secretary sean duffy. but first we turn to fox news correspondent grady trimble near that crash scene. >> good morning. there are around 600 flight delays across the country right now as recovery efforts continue along the potomac crews have pulled 42 of the victims from the river many of their families are here in the d.c. area after a horrific week for aviation. >> ntsb investigators are on the scene back to back transportation tragedies on the east coast and was in a diverse deadly commercial plane crash in the u.s. and more than 15 years. army blackhawk helicopter collided with the american airline flight for wichita, kansas seconds from landing at

washington's national reagan airport while 67 people involved died. ntsb member todd inman has been spending time with family members who lost loved ones. quick someone to give us hugs some are mad and angry. i do not want to have to meet with another set of parents like that again. it's not fair that could be your family. >> 's questions swirling over whether the helicopter was flying too high and whether staffing levels at air traffic control tower were too low, inman says a five air traffic controllers working at the time of the crash only one communicating with planes and helicopters in the air. the black box from the plane the most accurate measure of altitude shows it was around 32f impact. but for luminary data indicates control tower's other helicopters at the same time was at about 200 feet ntsb cannot yet explain that discrepancy. president trump claims and eei

hiring practices for air traffic controllers from the previous administration also bears some of the blame. >> leasing race or gender played a role in this tragedy questioned. >> it may have i don't know. incompetence might apply to roll. >> two days after the midair collision over the potomac medical plane crash in philadelphia killed all six mexican nationals on board one person on the ground injuring 19 more. >> two of reagan national three runways remained closed including the one american flight was supposed to land on. so the airport does not interfere with those recovery efforts. transportation secretary sean duffy is restricting helicopters from flying over the potomac near the airport with some exceptions until the ntsb releases its for lumin as per lt on the crash. shannon: r8 grady trimble near the side of that crash. thank you very much. turned out to lucas tomlinson employees live there covering the president. hello lucas.

>> shannon, president trump has slapped tariffs on that us-based trading partners. some fear could spark a trade or canada, mexico and china are already retaliating. >> tariffs do not cause inflation for. >> president donald trump new terrorists will go into effect tuesday. 25% on canada and mexico 10% on china. 10% tariffs we place on canadian energy. trump acknowledged friday that could raise domestic prices. cooks or could be some temporary short-term disruption people will understand that. >> economics estimate trumps tariffs on kata could lead to an immediate jump on u.s. gas prices by up to 70 cents a gallon. canada supplies about 60% of the crude oil the u.s. imports. trump says he was to produce more domestically. >> is treated very unfairly. we will be able to make that up very quickly. we don't need the products they have paid.

>> trump secretary of state in his first term defended the move. click some of that risk of inflation people talk about as likely overstated what some of this will end up being absorbed by the producers. >> on capitol hill trumps a pick to lead the health and human services, fbi and director of national intelligence receive their confirmation hearings. keat republicans voicing uncertainty about some of them. >> have been struggle with your nomination. >> i have not made a final decision. >> vice president taken to the airwaves with a warning to wavering gop senators. >> you do not get to make these decisions. president trump with and make these decisions and he already has. what's in his first acts as commander-in-chief trump teddy or f-18 super hornets from the uss harry s truman to strike isis targets in somalia. killing a senior planner and other terrorists. >> israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is in route to washington the first for later to meet president trump since he returned to the white

house. shannon: art lucas thank you very much. lucas tomlinson at west palm beach. dry made out transportation secretary shaun donovan a. mr. secretary, welcome to "fox news sunday." >> thank you, shannon. shannon: own to start by the warning system for pilots that was down overnight. canute gives an update on where you stand with that? >> before we do that i just want to extend my deepest condolences to the families who lost loved ones this past week and these air disasters. i want to say thank you to all the first responders who did a heroic job. on the scene we are all grateful for them. i want to say that first. but, used to be notice to eric mena now its notice to eric mission lasted menstruation change the name because the gender ideology concerns. that system went down last night. the backup system is now up and running as we tried to get the primary system online.

it's an old antiquated system it has to be upgraded. that is and that works it has been in the works for years. we have to rush the new system online. again second time in two years it's gone up. >> i'm glad you mentioned the crews that are working around the clock for living in this area i drive by that site every morning and every evening for these people are working around-the-clock dedicated to doing everythdoingeverything tht especially offer some amount of closure or help to these families of the victims there so hats off to them absolutely. i wouldn't talk about the situation was staffing what's been report about what's going on an air traffic control tower here in washington on wednesday night. "new york times" says the staffing it reagan national airport was not normal for the time of day and volume of traffic that's according to internal preliminary faa safety report. could he offer any more clarity about what was going on that night was staffing? >> to get up take the faa at their word that it was normal. that's part of the review

process we have to do. there is a consolidation of air traffic controllers an hour before it was supposed to happen in the time of the crash. what was the appropriateness of that? what are we doing to search our traffic controllers in this country that's a different story we have not have enough air traffic controllers in america for very long time but we are work with the faa to go how do we search the best and brightest air traffic controllers to get into the academy. get trained up and make sure we do not have staffing issues. they are stressed out for they are tapped out for their overwork to put this no excuse at the reality of what we have in the system. we have land that's going to come out to fix the problem. but the issue is you cannot flip a switch and get air traffic control is here tomorrow. it takes years to train them up. what happened in the tower at what gogoesout the staffing? what was the language used by air traffic controller question wasn't appropriate did they

appropriately directed traffic consistent with procedures at the faa? we also questions about what was the position of the blackhawk? the elevation of the blackhawk? the black hawk pilots wearing night vision causal? if so why would they be flying a mission at 9:00 p.m. at night through really busy airspace around dca as opposed to flying it at 1:00 a.m. in the morning when there's very little traffic customer i want our military to be trained up and ready to go. i also want air travel is to be safe as well for this time and place to do it. not at 9:00 p.m. at night when there's heavy traffic. >> you mentioned is more broadly the issue of air traffic controllers more than 90% of the air traffic control facilities in this country are operating below the faa's recommended faad staffing levels. we know last year when congress passed a massive faa reauthorization they said at that point were down about 3000 air traffic controllers. so the first question, our our airways and airport safe? >> yes they are.

we have the safest skies in the whole world. traveling by air is a safest mode of transportation. just to that point if it was not safe if there is an issue with air traffic controllers or staffing that could not keep the system of the people safe in it, the faa would shut it down. we have redundancies in places not just air traffic controllers we do have technologies on airplanes to keep them separat separated. this is the safest system, our system does need to be upgraded for sure i have a conversation about that if you want. it is safe to fly. >> is it a funding issue for air traffic controllers as you mention the recruiting, the retention issue is it a mix of those things? >> there are a number of issues. during covid there is an issue where they shut down the academies and then when the academies reopen the class sizes were smaller graduates from the academy got out they cannot get into a tower.

with supplement of air traffic controllers. there's a mandatory retirement age for controllers 55 years old. every year we have people cycling up the business. we need more young people coming in and again we cannot focus on diversity, equity and inclusion we try to hire air traffic controllers. you hire the best and the brightest. some people may like to have this conversation or on equity. if a chore pilots are your air traffic controllers, you want the best for you and the brightest to protect yourself and your family. that's what we are going to do at the department forever every air traveler. getting great students to make sure skies are safe. >> you mention were very early on we do not know if any of that had an impact on either of these situations. we'll talk about philadelphia too. congresswoman jennifer mcclellan said talking about that right now it is irresponsible to blame anything or anyone that does a disservice to the lives that were lost.

in the middle of this whole thing? >> so shannon, the mission of dot and faa is safety per that's the historic commission of this agency part of the last four years they're having a conversation the last administration on changing names from cockpit to flight deck or notice to air men to error mission meet student gender specific they are focused on social justice in the environment, racist roads and ev's. they've lost the sig sight of te mission of this department. and so we have no place for anything about the best and the brightest. when you look at what went wrong look at the people you have in place at the dot and faa and leadership in the direction of leadership gives them. it's been misplace of the last four years. we are back on admission were focused on safety have in the best people delivering that safety i don't care your race, your religion, your, sexual preference that does not matter just the best in the brightest.

shannon: i want to place on the on the ntsb tom inman said about the recommendations that come from the agency. >> unfortunately at some point all of you will be gone will still have the investigation open will have recommendations. it's devastating still with what is happening. several hundred recommendations for aviation you want to do something about it? adopt the recommendation of the ntsb. you will save lives. >> he sounded very frustrated. when he says ntsb recommendations need to be adopted who does that mean by congress, other agencies, what does that mean? >> it's a partnership it's part of the dot, the faa is part of congress. there's a lot of recommendations i've talked to ntsb we want to put a list together of the top 10, 15 recommendations they have made, focus on them and start to implement them. but shannon, our air traffic control system a lot of technology dates back to world war ii. read develop the best technology

in this country other people use it but we do not implement here so we have to have a conversation with congress get their best minds, their best resources to come up with a plan to upgrade the american system will make it more efficient. ill make it safer. if i hear donald trump talk about this once, he talked about it 10 times air traffic control system does not work in america as effectively as other places in the world. we should be the best congress' help on that one. there are other recommendations and went to work at the ntsb to categorize them as the most important to least important such implement. shannon: is a member of congress you know can be a heavy lift to get things done over their former member, mr. secretary thank you so much appreciate your time and wish you all the best and the challenges of the new job. >> we should be the best congress is up on that one. there other recommendations and went to work at the ntsb to categorize them as the most important to least important such implement. shannon: is a member of congress you know can be heavy lift to get things done over there former member, mr. secretary thank you so much appreciate your time and wish you all the best the challenges of the new job. >> we got centers both sides of the aisle here to weigh in on the fate of a president latest round of nominees with a razor thin margins expected. are they ready to announce their votes? i will ask and up next over in

the sunday panel with their thoughts on the president's move to/federal workforce and how that is going down.

>> you know people been trying to reduce federal government now for 40 years, 45 years. they have not been able to do it. this is a way of doing it i think very nicely. it's sort of a buyout too. we're treating people very good. if we don't show up, we've accomplished a very serious goal were trying to reduce government. >> president trump talked about is a buyout plan offering millions of federal workers eight months salary if they agreed to leave their position that got to decide this week. it's part of an aggressive push

to shrink the federal workforce retired now for our group. mary katharine ham, josh halmes, juan williams, and josh kraushaar. you know the deal on the table millions impacted here's the fork in the road designation that is cap not in e-mail and also on the government websites of the federal workforce is expected to undergo significant near-term changes. as a result you may wish to depart the federal government on terms or provide you with sufficient time and economic security to plan for your future and josh, the ad have eight nice vacation. >> very kind, very kind. you are looking at a trump administration with four long years of what they do differently. clearly that had a mandate since the first trump administration to try to reduce the federal footprints. and now they figured out how to do it. according to the trump administration 6%, 6% of the

federal workforce shows up for work on a day-to-day basis for there's not an american taxpayer anywhere in this country that thanks that is acceptable but this is a one way to remedy all of that. >> senator tim kaine democrat out of virginia says not so fast here's his warning. >> might message to federal employees who receive this is, you have a president who is trying to terrorize you for about a week. and then gives you little sweetheart offer if you reside in the next week. we are just going to pay for doing nothing for the next seven months. do not be fooled for. >> joshi is awarding them a lot of people are considering around here. >> looked the big question is if you take on the federal workforce with a scalpel or jew with an ax? this is got elon musk's fingerprints all over the changes taking place in the federal government. look, i think a lot of people support a lot of the initiatives, di executive order has beit's been a frustration er people who are not vertically conservative. i think there's going to be

challenges congress means to appropriate the mode money for the buyouts it could cost billions of dollars if enough people take the buyouts it may prove to be legally dubious to cut as much of the workforce is elon musk and donald trump want to do it's going to have serious legal challenges to it that may prove to take on the workforce, take on the federal government you have to do it a little more careful you also want to be careful you don't lose some of the more essential people like air traffic control staffers that are essential to our government. >> we know there are exceptions carved out military among the public safety for the faa say they're still onboarding people. we will see. in the meantime this is coming as president trump is getting good news about things caught up in a lot of legal wrangling. the poll sa pulse as president f starting a second term in the white house with the job approval rating 10 points higher than at the start of his first presidential term. >> i think it's a honeymoon right now. the question is how long does

the honeymoon lasts? will we have seen with recent presidents is the honeymoon does not last long the first 100 days result bill clinton went down 17. obama went down and of course trump went down eight plus points in his first 100 days in his first term. but what you have to understand for this moment you look at trumps behavior in the past week we talk about federal job what happens, people don't like government only 6% show up okay that's terrible. what happens when you have fbi purging? what happens when you have what's going off the secret service air traffic control. we have fewer people does that mean less security for us as americans and for our families doesn't mean they're going to be consequences? does it mean the stock market has a reaction to the tariffs what happens if the stock market goes down? i think you have to keep in mind two things honeymoon's do not

last into trumps approval is higher than it is right now than it ever was in his first term it's still not as high as most incoming president. >> presidents frequencies done a lot of things some controversial some legal wrangling like we said the birthright citizenship order, federal hiring freeze all kinds of things like that is feeling the poll shows a lot of support for other things he does want to do or is trying to things like troops in that kind of thing. but the headline for the "new york times" is this trumps the flood the zone strategy leaves opponents gasping and outrage. this time the flood is bigger, wider and more efficient. >> i think that's part of the plan. honestly when you see things like the rescission of the one memo and the freeze of federal spending it's out of character for the rest of it which is going pretty smoothly. it's a different tack than last time. also to be terrorize with the federal worker within eight months severance package or someone terrorize me? i've never been terrorize in such a way before. they have protections the

american people do not know about have never been familiarized with. one of the goals of their communication process in doing this is to advertise the way federal workers are treated differently than normal americans in their jobs. they are asked to come to work put to a lot of americans that does not seem unreasonable. one has a point or you guys have a point if you don't do with a scalpel maybe have some disruptions. the american people ask for change. he said is going to change things. there's a sliding scale on the mandate for disruption and how much you can withstand. the leviathan is going to resist the harpoons being thrown at it. federal workers do risk a little overplaying their hands by thinking they are the most important thing to democracy. many people in america who are working different than federal workers who do not see them as a pillar of the democracy that they see themselves and pray they see them as federal employees who work at taxpayer expense for. >> they have to make a decision by february 6. will be interesting to see how

many decide to pursue this route panel do not go far the president's most controversial nominees were grilled on the hill as president and his allies lean on gop senators to swiftly confirm nominees for what some say face of possibility of a primary it westerners jon senator fetterman and lindsey graham how they plan to vote just ahead

>> the senate has already confirmed eight of president trump's exceptional cabinet nominees but we expect the senate to continue quickly confirming the remainder president trump so well qualified nominees in the days ahead. shannon: write a press secretary karoline leavitt doing optimistic about the rest of president trump's cabinet nominees make it through the senate but the toughest are stilted on our next guest make hold with the key votes for joining us out senator john fetterman. welcome back to foxy sunday. >> are you? shannon: i am greatly let's art rfk junior pretty spin through think this is what the "washington post" says u the party'parties confirmation hears were even worse than expected. the hhs nominees answers to senators questions or absurd and dangerous. now, i know you have had multiple conversations with him. where are you this morning? >> i have i've invested a lot of time to really understand his background and to learn more about the man i set down with him twice in my office to have a conversation.

so, whatever the vote comes down on, is going to come an informed view. i approached with an open mind and i watch the hearing. and that is how the process works. shannon: have you made a decision? >> i, well, i've been following it and i talked to my colleagues on both sides. and i have said this on the record. it has been challenging for sure. absolutely. and certainly not a slam dunk for the nomination. shannon: will you reveal your vote before you get to the floor or is this going to be like gametime decision for you? >> no. right before i stick my thumb and the door? it's part of an on going dialogue on where we are at this. i have made an investment to really understand and talk to all the nominees.

i treated everyone with respect. i took the time to listen that is been my commitment. >> you have met with kash patel who was tapped to lead the fbi after you conversation he assurd you he would not go out for a so-called enemy list have you made a decision on him? >> again that's part of their process too. i think i'm part of the only democrat or maybe one of the only few that have met with all of them. again i've approached all of them with the open mind to have a conversation. i don't trust and certainly many other things written or said were true i assume the same for them too. i have maintained a dialogue to understand and i have watched these hearings that is a part -- make up our job is to consent, consent pray that as part of the process.

there are some out of them that i have voted for them and their son that i won't vote for them it's going to be about an open process that i maintain it throughout the entire time. shannon: a note that includes meeting with tulsi gabbard and your conversations with her? >> again the exact same as that you just brought out. shannon: you have issued noted voted for some of president trump's nominees in this process. you're one of the only democrats to vote for the lake and rightly act to produce value as part of the signing ceremony for that with the family, with president trump this week. now, there has been a blowback from the left about the ice raids going on across the country. i want to get your reaction to some local officials who say either they're not going to cooperate, they're going to actively block these or in some cases they will avoid the raids but here are some local officials reacting.

>> police officers will not be cooperating with federal law enforcement. around federal immigration law. >> being a welcoming city our local police department will not behave as federal agents progress we have an ordinance, state law sb 54 that generally prohibits an immigration enforcement. >> local officials have with respect to the feds in the deportation? >> i hope every local would agree that her hero's criminal backgrounds or engaging in criminal behavior. now if ice comes to round them up i hope that it would provide that kind of support. i certainly would never support terrorizing otherwise innocent migrants and those kinds of situations or kicking in a door

at a school. but i think we can all agree that every migrants with a criminal background or engaging in criminal behavior. they all need to go too. >> you are the only democrat vote trying to move together a measure pushing back against the icc. specifically it seems for their decision to go after israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu among others this illegitimate court counteraction act was supposed to impose sanctions with respect to the icc and engage in any effort to investigate, arrest, detain or prosecute any protected person of the united states and its allies. why do you think you are the only democrat on moving that to the floor procedurally? >> i said that on social media i was incredibly disappointed for absolute disagree with that. i cannot really understand why at my party has not joined me aninvoting to sanction the icc. when you have equivocated the democratic leader of our special

out light with rapist and hot cowards of hamas especially after what you've seen. after terrorizing that poor hostage you had hundreds and hundreds of people the chaos and they have equivocated that with the prime minist prime minister. my colleague this would be next up on your show we've had a long going conversation in order to sanction the icc. i was absolutely supportive of that and i cannot defend why at mmyparty chose not too. shannon: the prime ministers on his way to washington including at the white house of president trump or do you think there will be a different relationship between the u.s. and israel with the trump administration versus abide ministration? >> well, there will be some situations i absolutely support some of the decisions with israel that joe biden made. i'm going to agree with some of the decisions of president trump

forwarm going to disagree with m too. my vote is going to follow israel through all of the situation. i am going to disagree with either of the presidents. but i'm going to stand with israel just like that vote against the icc and i absolutely am supporting blocking the ban on 2000-pound bombs as well. i fully support bringing those back. shannon: art center will watch for your votes on the critical nominees you can always let me know if you decide to before you press the button it's always weird to see it sir, thanks for coming on. >> thank you for having me. shannon: joining us now is your colleague senator from south carolina gop senator lindsey graham but welcome back senator. >> thank you. went to esco something by the way you and senator fetterman i worked on a few things you've also both signed onto this resolution with regard to iran's nuclear program here at pa and t resolution says all options should be considered you and i've had this conversation

whether we need a u.s. military strike and i run what do you mean? what are you urging president trump to keep openness and option? >> trying to define the world in which we live i and accurately. senator fetterman has been a champion for the state of israel. i went to him and asked him which you work with me too do a census senate resolution saying that over decades iran is been trying to acquire nuclear weap weapon, not a nuclear power plant for the largest state sponsor of terrorism, they would blow israel off the map if they had eight nuclear weapon. they would come after us. he said i'll be glad too. what this resolution does it lays out the case against iran's nuclear ambition. beebe and the israelis are going to have to make a decision relatively soon, what to do about the ironic nuclear program. is not an authorization to use force. i am here to tell you and the audience and the world that i think america should support an effort by israel if they should

decide to decimate the iranian nuclear program. i think it's a threat to manki mankind. israel is strong. i run is weak they have been decimated they are not finished off but they have been weakened and there is an opportunity to hit the iran nuclear program and a fashion i have not seen in decades. i think it would be in the world's interest for us to decimate the iranian nuclear threat while we can. if we don't we will regret it later and senator fetterman has been a champion on this and every other issue regarding israel. shannon: it sounds like you are saying it's more about supporting israel they decide to strike versus us having melters right? >> yes. they need some assistance it will be their actions. shannon: i want to try get answers from you on some of these nominees let's start with rfk junior. you have been one of the most pro life folks for logs at the national review has this warning pro-lifers should be especially

weary of a man who publicly advocated legislation to codify roe v wade in 2023. a firm in 2024 he supported legal abortion even if it is full-term. given your dedication to that topic is that something you're willing to compromise on? >> well i am now okay supporting rfk junior because i think during the course of the hearing he has committed to a republican pro life agenda, president trump's approach life agenda mexico city policy dealing with chemical abortions. i will take him at his word i am comfortable with what he has said on the pro-life issue he has been a radical radically prs a person. i do believe as a secretary he will implement a pro-life agenda that will be pushed by president trump i will be a yes. i will also watch every move he makes. >> i am assuming you are yes and rfk junior i assume you are yes on kash patel. what about tulsi gabbard? >> yes for lb yes on her is waiting to see what she said

about 702 that is the ability to track foreigners over and see who may be involved in plots against the country. i actually served in a reserve unit with tulsi gabbard and i've always liked her a lot of her criticism against her has been really mean and off based i will be a yes she has shown her understanding of how vital 702 is that will be a yes on rfk junior, tulsi gabbard and kash patel knocked it out of the park he is the anecdote to crossfire hurricane is going to go on and clean the fbi out to make sure it's never abuse like it was in the past and crossfire hurricane was one of the saddest danger is the most dangerous chapters in fbi history he is the guy that helped expose it he will be the solution not the problem when it comes to the fbi. shannon: you not much of what he faced in questioning was about retribution what is going to do within the fbi he is not there yet. my colleagues at foxnews.com report this acting deputy attorney general sent a memo to

the acting fbi director friday evening directing him to terminate eight of the employees and identify all current and former bureau personnel assigned to generate six and hamas cases for internal review. not senator blumenthal your colleague says i am appalled by this violent retaliation against agency sought to hold accountable people who step cops with flagpoles crushed officers until they broke bones the silence of my republican colleagues is disgusting and deafening. your response? >> number one is changing personnel at the fbi is a good place to start. how do you expect the fbi to change if you keep everybody in place that's been part of the problem? i've been open but generate six people who commit violent acts against cops. i do not like it. we are talking about the fbi. we are talking about people who looked the other way, were part of the problem, allow the fbi to get warrants against an american citizen called carter page based

on russian disinformation called the seal dossier then lied to the court i am looking forward to some of these people finding a new job. now if you are an agent working generate six case or some other case you were assigned to do it you should not be punished for doing your job. this idea of keeping everybody in place of the government after trump won the election is insa insane. he should have the ability to put people in management positions that share his vision of how to move forward on the america first agenda and there is nothing unusual about that to me. >> are just to quickly about the terrorists mexico, can already single issue full retaliatory tariffs in exchange in china is going to wto. your colleague senator coons put up this statement when it became official yesterday he says president trump he said is going to drive down prices to make america more affordable than on day 13 of his presidency he imposed tariffs that will send prices skyrocketing. is it a good move?

>> well is 3000 americans die every two weeks from fentanyl poisoning coming across the mexican border they make the drugs, fans will produce in a mexico precursors come from china. we have been overrun in terms of 11 million illegals coming across the mexican border if you want tariffs to go away, mexico and china stop of poisoning americans stop sending fentanyl into america to kill americans prett.when have a better relatip with the united states do your part on the other side of the border, to her friends in canada i really appreciate what you're doing on the northern border. these tariffs are designed to get these countries to change their behavior. i am glad we are pushing back against china and mexico when it comes to fentanyl poisoning of america i am glad we are putting everybody on notice the old way of doing business is over. there's been a 60% drop of illegal crossings in 10 days.

she's designed to bring about change of the change comes i think the tariffs probably go away. quicksort senator graham always great to have a rethink it for the time today. >> thank you. shannon: dnc electing a chairman historically bad new poll numbers show how americans are feeling about democrats. with a new boss be able to unite a divided party? our panel tackles that next.

there has never been at native american and leadership at the dnc. >> i don't think it's a good idea to do a caucus of not going to a jewish carcass but we have pledged to appoint more than one transgender person to an at-large seat. >> patient had acute commit to

what she just asked? ♪ when your governments doing you wrong you fight on ♪ ♪. >> some of the candidates and battling it out to be the next democratic national committee chair ken marchant was selected for the position on saturday. he's going be tasked with helping the party to reset after big election losses we are back now at the panel. wando, this comes after the headline was this it says wednesday a stunning finding negative views of the democratic party outpace positive ones by 26 points, 31 favorable 51% unfavorable that's the highest ever in the polling dating back so kent martens got a big job ahead. >> to question the polls are a wake-up call for democrats. right now they do not have a clear message in response to trump other than that they they do not like trump. secondly, they do not have a clear leader. the selection of margin is very interesting to me he is no

radical there were protests out there sun ri sunrise group environmental group they are pushing for the position of special climate. kent martin and the democrats right now clearly they are moving toward the middle. they are still in the biden mode in terms of what they want to present as the face of the american people. so, what martin had to say it yesterday we are not elon musk. we are not radical and crazy on the right. we're not trying to impose tariffs we want to make things work pretty much makes cities work. we want to make your social safety net europe medicaid were not going to take it away. that's the democrat bes best mee at this moment. >> has written a memo to every democrat pondering presidential run staying away for a more radical idea saying this this election conclusively proved a democrat cannot embrace the far left groups to please the activists in a primary and simply pin it to a stance that voters actually like in the final months of an election campaign if you want to best

position yourself for 2028 publicly distance yourself from far left losing ideas. they talk about abolishing the police wiping out every single student loan to climb emergency they what they are telling future democratic candidates to stay away from. >> the democrats are culturally dominant for very long time backed by cultural forces for many, many decades and got hubristic about their positions and now they have lost the pitch that we can make things work. they have demonstrably a perfect example of this in my the democrats are so disoriented in this position at the moment is they lost a generation along double-digit lead on trust in education from 2020 until now it will persist because as you saw the national report card the nae assessment of progress came with the devastating results showing the students are not coming back from that learning loss some of them incurred starting in kindergarten. that kind of thing as a marker

in many areas of governance for the democrats have lost ground on it and gaining trust back will take a long effort i think. shannon: as we talked about in last panel are sort of overwhelmed by everything president trump and republicanss are throwing at them right now. congressman gerry conley out of virginia said they are going to stumble over there going to screw up we are going to pounce when they do in their haste to remake the federal government they are going to make big, big mistakes josh they're pointing to some of that happening this week at least the back check on that. >> yes it can be popular when you're cutting essential services medicaid payments potentially back and lose you support it's often very important to not spend your capitol too fast. as trump has been talking about is quite popular but we generate the backlash give democrat some thing to run on. one thing the pole that was so notable the image of the democratic party is the lowest in the polls history.

i'm not sure if it's automatically going to be a backlash against trump or democrats have to have a positive message they have to run away from some of this identity areas him that you saw in that form projects or republicans are at a high and the pole based on where they have been too. so, as for the memo the "new york times" says it president trump is angered by the media coverage for their caught off guard. >> think mathanked mary catherit the nail on the head that stands out the first time around they try to figure how these executive orders would actually be implemented this time around it is a category of one everything else has been relatively smooth they've had to juggle this one a little bit. i love my friend juan trying to wish you cast the democrats and gotten to the middle if you watch the dnc situation for two minutes, the metal was not to be seen. >> if you look at dei from trump you understand how the democrats don't have a chance to come back. shannon: of got to go up more on

pay-per-view during the commercial but we see you next sunday. two colleagues very different political viewpoints offer a roadmap for finding common ground and our sunday session.

shannon: prince ifton professors cornel west and robert george have a unique friendship, determined to bridge division through honest conversations.

in their new book, "truth pa matters," they explore how we can work to understand each other and find the in a deeply-divided -- [audio difficulty] is a truth seeker. he's willing to engage. and right now people can't even agree on what the truth is, so how does this work? >> i think it has to do with a quality of character that my dear brother who i have deep love and respect for, he says what he means, he means what he says -- if. [audio difficulty] >> even where we deeply disagree, we have in common a desire to get at the truth of the matter. shannon: what do you think people can take from this book, from those principles and that conversation about, you know, if it's a family member or a friend

or somebody you've become completely cut off from because you do have some ideological differences, them learning the value of this kind of friendship and conversation? >> the lesson should be a person, an honest, decent person who disagrees with you, has an honest disagreement with you, is not your enemy. he's to be engaged with in a truth-seeking spirit. understanding that although i may have something to teach him, i may also a have something to learn from him. if. shannon: do you agree to the disagree? that sounds simplistic, but what do you do? >> i've already learned so much from if him anyway. but i think also as christians, we deeply believe each person made in the likeness and image of almighty god and, therefore, that's not reducible to politics. love never if reducible to just politics. >> it's always so easy to interpret what your critic or challenger is saying in its worst light. don't do that. [laughter] interpret it in its very best

light. shannon: have we lost some of those skills? how do we redevelop those as a society? >> oh, no if, we've lost a lot of those skills. we're concerned with integrity, honesty, decency, compassion and openness or are we manipulating, transacting and dominating? >> you know, shannon, there is a beautiful part of the the liturgy in the jewish tradition for yom kippur, the day of atonement. the congregation goes through the various sins9 from the ten commandments, and then what i find so so fascinating, we have been zelle os every -- zealots for bad causes. now -- [laughter] nobody is ever a zealot for a bad cause deliberately. we become zealots from bad causes because we don't recognize the cause is bad. we think the cause is good. we think we're warriors for justice, for right, for truth, but we need to be self-critical enough that we're fallible, fallen human beings that can

make mistakes even about the big, great issues. so we always have to keep that self-critical spirits, maintain that intellectual hue millty. shannon: congrattations -- congratulations to to you two on the book. my thanks to them. by the way, it is groundhog day in gobbler's knob in western pennsylvania. big news this morning, punxsutawney phil did, in fact, see his shadow predicting six more weeks of winter. huge crowd there including our own janice dean having a good time but not real happy with the results. at least not me. "px if news sunday" is going on the road, we're going to be in new orleans ahead of super bowl lix. we've got some really cool behind the scenes scoop we cannot wait to show you. that is it for today though. thanks for joining us. i'm shannon bream. have ♪ hello everyone i'